Quotes of the day
posted at 10:30 pm on December 1, 2009 by Allahpundit
“‘We’re becoming a church that would rather chase away heretics than welcome converts and that’s no way to become a majority party,’ complained former Rep. Tom Davis, a Virginia Republican who served as National Republican Congressional Committee chairman. ‘This makes no sense for those of us who are interested in winning elections.’…
“‘I don’t think national committeemen putting purity tests on the party is wise,’ said Reynolds, also a former NRCC chair. He called the move a recipe for ‘a perfect minority.’”
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“Or maybe the party will simply head down the path to ever-more thorough bouts of inquisition and purging, resolutely depopulating its conservative pantheon. Consider the central article of the first point on the list—a commitment to ‘lower deficits.’ That would not only banish former President George W. Bush and many members of the late Republican Congress, since they infamously squandered the surplus and ballooned the deficit, but also former President Ronald Reagan, whom the authors of the 10-point program, in a long preamble to their test questions, hymn as the ne plus ultra of conservatism…
“Maybe this current crop of Republican incorruptibles will find, as Mr. Viguerie wrote in 1988, that ‘responsibility for the ultimate failure of the Reagan Revolution lies with Ronald Reagan himself.’ They will start to suspect that even those who approve of this test don’t meet its standards; that pure conservatism means very few conservatives.”
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Via the Right Scoop.
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cyncook:
I think most people would agree with you.
Terrye on December 1, 2009 at 11:23 PM
And now, today we have reached a point where there is no more…all those programs and goodies are in danger as the Congress prints ever more money and spends it on bribes and promises…
People may not be brilliant and may be self serving but extreme stupid is reserves for the tiny group that really believes in the free lunch…
Heck, most of us would be thrilled if we simply let things stand as they are and did not make anything worse..
JIMV on December 1, 2009 at 11:25 PM
Actually, apparently we do know. That amnesty was supposed to be for around 300,000 illegals and something like 3 million showed up. After he left office he wrote, or told a friend that he regretted the mistake.
FloatingRock on December 1, 2009 at 11:15 PM
Exactly. After that bill became law, illegal immigration immediately increased by at least 25%. Now we have anywhere between 10 and 20 million illegal immigrants living and working…and having children…and buying homes….here. Bigger problem or smaller problem?
cynccook on December 1, 2009 at 11:25 PM
Yeah, you’re right. I was too quick on the trigger, sorry.
Let’s not forget also the “ketchup is now a vegetable in school lunches!!!!”
ddrintn on December 1, 2009 at 11:26 PM
No third party. We’ll die.
To the RNC:
Get back, get back, get back to where you once belonged. Get back.
TXUS on December 1, 2009 at 11:27 PM
I think that is true. But remember, a lot of those unhappy people at those health care town halls were people who thought they were going to lose their medicare.
Terrye on December 1, 2009 at 11:27 PM
But do you pass the small government test?
That is why I dislike the “conservative common sense solutions”–what 60 million people might agree in terms of what policy as far as small government is concerned can be quite heterogenous.
I mean you have Ron Paul who is small government type guy who says America is an imperalist power. That’s really small government.
Do we want that? I don’t.
rightistliberal on December 1, 2009 at 11:28 PM
I would rather they just let it all collapse now, rather than later.
You do know that’s where we’re headed. Let’s get it over with, kind of like a drunk hitting bottom.
Knucklehead on December 1, 2009 at 11:28 PM
Because he was assured by a bipartisan group, it would be the only amnesty.
Speakup on December 1, 2009 at 11:30 PM
I have been hearing and reading stories about these people leaving, not all of them of course, but I hear fewer are coming and more are leaving. No jobs.
And I think more enforcement is starting to have an effect as well. Bush might have made a lot of people unhappy with his immigration policy, but he did put more resources and more people on that border than any president in history. But it is probably never enough.
Terrye on December 1, 2009 at 11:31 PM
Two questions.
1. Who is Davis talking about? If he’s talking about the electorate, then he should understand that these fairly basic guidelines are for elected officials, not the general population. If he’s talking about elected officials…
2. What are the so-called “converts” converting to?
I’m not interested in a GOP majority for a GOP majority’s sake. What good is it to have a House and Senate full of Scozzafavas and Snowes?
The leadership of a party does not have the luxury of being moderate. They need to stand for something…stand for real principles that differ from the democrats so there’s a stark, strong, bold comparison to be made.
What good does it do to have people who make deals for the sake of making deals? Who have no solid base of principles and who’s only goal is bi-partisanship and working together to “get things done”?
Thanks but no thanks. I don’t want people representing me who I have to wonder when they’ll stab me in the back on health care or cap and trade or whatever in the name of reaching their hand across the aisle. I want people who will fight for me on my behalf and stand up to the hard left, not capitulate to them.
powerpro on December 1, 2009 at 11:31 PM
Not according to Edwin Meese, I think it was, who said that Reagan regretted it.
I agree he wouldn’t have built a wall, though.
FloatingRock on December 1, 2009 at 11:32 PM
Yes, but he was not opposed to it on ideological grounds like people today would be. The times were different.
Terrye on December 1, 2009 at 11:32 PM
Floating Rock:
All Presidents regret things. Well, at least most of them do I think.
Terrye on December 1, 2009 at 11:34 PM
powerpro:
One of things on that list is that Republicans will support any surge in Afghanistan or Iraq. Do you support the war in Afghanistan? I was thinking that you did not.
Terrye on December 1, 2009 at 11:35 PM
No, I don’t want that either.
Terrye on December 1, 2009 at 11:37 PM
The resolution, the latest skirmish in the GOP’s ongoing internal ideological battle, would require candidates to meet a purity test on fiscal and social issues or risk being denied direct and coordinated spending from the national committee.
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But numerous top party officials say that imposing such a conservative litmus test would only spur intra-party bickering at a time when Republicans are poised to make significant gains in next year’s mid-term elections.
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How ever this gets hammered out,I want a viable,and an
extremely **threatening Republican Canidate that has NO DIRT,is QUALIFIED,and *THEE most important critera of all,
and that is,exceptable to the entire RELIGIOUS SPECTRUM
of CONSERVATIVISM!!!!!!!!!!!!
And,has America as priority #Number 1,political ambitions,
number #2,because somebody,has to straighten out this Libe
eral dabauchery and besmirchment of the United States of
America!!
**(threatening as in,to a Liberal nominee,politically,that
is).
*(maybe not thee most important criteria,jus sayin).
canopfor on December 1, 2009 at 11:38 PM
Those unhappy folk KNOW that one cannot steal 500 BILLION from medicare and ‘save’ their coverage…
The promise is for cheaper, better care but all we are going to get is more expensive crappy care and a lot of politicians in perpetuity buying that power with health care votes.
There is nothing in the lies the left is serving right now that precludes a real conservative republican party..
JIMV on December 1, 2009 at 11:38 PM
No I absolutely support the war in Afghanistan. I support it and wish I believed the President genuinely supported it too.
powerpro on December 1, 2009 at 11:40 PM
JMV:
That is right, they know.
Terrye on December 1, 2009 at 11:40 PM
powerpro:
Okay.
Terrye on December 1, 2009 at 11:40 PM
There’s a tent over there and there’s a tent over here. Decide.
Connie on December 1, 2009 at 11:41 PM
I know how I vote, and I vote every year like clockwork.
AnninCA on December 1, 2009 at 10:46 PM
AnninCA:Just like a Locked Stepped Liberal ObamaVoterFemBot!
canopfor on December 1, 2009 at 11:41 PM
Like I said, “small government” is a relative term. For example, the government as it exists today, versus the government the Left would love to create. That’s small, miniscule, microscopic. Obviously we live in a complex society. Government has to be more complex than in Jefferson’s time, but if you want some perspective, just go and read a few of the British papers on line like telegraph.co.uk, etc.
cynccook on December 1, 2009 at 11:42 PM
I still want a super duper primary~I got to vote in JUNE, byt the time it was all over by the bullsh*t that maverick gave us.
HornetSting on December 1, 2009 at 10:55 PM
HornetSting:Freaggin Amen on that:)
canopfor on December 1, 2009 at 11:45 PM
What? Now I seem to recall from the 80’s that Reagan’s budget-cutting was forcing old people to eat dog food. I was pretty young at the time, but I can swear that’s what I heard.
ddrintn on December 1, 2009 at 11:17 PM
I think that might have had something to do with shutting down a lot of state hospitals.
Terrye on December 1, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Hmmmm….if only I could remember which President signed that bill into law….now, let me seeeee, who was that?
cynccook on December 1, 2009 at 11:45 PM
deidre on December 1, 2009 at 10:49 PM
On the domestic side, while he vowed to reverse Johnson’s Great Society, the administration did not push much here after the tax cut passed in 81.
On the foreign side, he was great when speaking about the Soviet system but got fuzzy (let’s get rid of all nuclear weapons) when talking to Gorbachev.
And, yes, Rush is right, except about abortion.
AshleyTKing on December 1, 2009 at 11:46 PM
What concerns me is that before Reagan’s amnesty they thought there were about 300,000 illegals—10 times that many showed up. Now they say there’s over 12 million…. yikes! In my county, up here in Washington state, they’re about 26% of the population according to the local paper, which if applied to the rest of the country, (just for giggles), the multiple would be over 6!
FloatingRock on December 1, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Do you like this better than Viguerie 2006 or Viguerie 2004?
In the first, about 1/5 down:
Who does that remind you of today?
In the second:
OkieDoc on December 1, 2009 at 11:47 PM
Let’s be realistic, a third party vote is a vote for Obama, and I’m not willing to risk that. Look what the libs have done in a year. Can anyone honestly handle 7 more??
redridinghood on December 1, 2009 at 11:48 PM
Uh, I don’t think Rush is one of those.
platypus on December 1, 2009 at 11:49 PM
No third party. Let’s not have Clinton part III.
Mojave Mark on December 1, 2009 at 11:49 PM
Happily, Palin has expressed the same sentiments.
Once again, Rush is right.
Danzo on December 1, 2009 at 11:50 PM
Yeah, but he said it was a mistake, that given the opportunity to do it over, he wouldn’t have signed it.
FloatingRock on December 1, 2009 at 11:50 PM
Which county is that? I’m in Pierce.
platypus on December 1, 2009 at 11:50 PM
Shear idiocy. Tell that to Pelosi, who keeps nearly the entire Democratic House (and some House Repubicans) in lockstep with a very hard left agenda. Liberals do not accept deviation from their agenda, and yet they are still in power and currently hold a majority. So tell me again, why should we abandon the precepts that founded this nation in the name of holding a majority(regardless of how corrupt that majority is)?
SG1_Conservative on December 1, 2009 at 11:51 PM
Which is why the dems will lose scores of seats next year and 4-6 Senate seats…the public KNOWS the dems are in it for themselves and for power. They know there is no free lunch despite what the dems say and they KNOW the result of all this stupidity in Congress is that these folk themselves will be screwed…they will punish every dem they can.
JIMV on December 1, 2009 at 11:53 PM
Yes, I know I know. But the point is the press went crazy with all the talk about homeless people etc.
But overall, Rush is right here. A third party is a bad idea.
Terrye on December 1, 2009 at 11:53 PM
No third party. Let’s not have Clinton part III.
Mojave Mark on December 1, 2009 at 11:49 PM
Mojave Mark:Don’t need no stinkin Perot Affect!:)
canopfor on December 1, 2009 at 11:54 PM
FloatingRock on December 1, 2009 at 11:46 PM
What worries me also is that these folks have been in this country for so long now. Maybe there has to be a statute of limitations on enforcement now, out of common decency. They’ve had time to have families (whose children are auto-matically citizens), buy homes and cars, become ESTABLISHED here. What are we going to do, round them up, seize their property and throw them out? Many of them are hard workers, good Catholics, etc. What’s the answer? Amnesty only encourages more illegal immigration. We need to implement a way to keep track of who’s here, at the very least. I read about this in the WSJ: http://www.digitalcommunitiesblogs.com/international_beat/2009/06/indias-largest-egovernance-pro.php
cynccook on December 1, 2009 at 11:54 PM
Chelan
FloatingRock on December 1, 2009 at 11:54 PM
JIMV:
I think the Democrats have convinced themselves that they can pull this off.
Terrye on December 1, 2009 at 11:55 PM
In the second:
Talk is cheap, Obamabots.
And on third base:
So, let us cherry pick and see whose skin turns red first.
WSJ and thomas can Eat Me.
OkieDoc on December 1, 2009 at 11:55 PM
Yes, I know I know. But the point is the press went crazy with all the talk about homeless people etc.
But overall, Rush is right here. A third party is a bad idea.
Terrye on December 1, 2009 at 11:53 PM
My point was that it was Jimmy Carter.
cynccook on December 1, 2009 at 11:55 PM
SG1_Conservative on December 1, 2009 at 11:51 PM
Excellent point, I hadn’t thought of that.
cynccook on December 1, 2009 at 11:56 PM
cynccook:
Yes, it was. But like AIDS, Reagan somehow got the blame for it.
Terrye on December 1, 2009 at 11:57 PM
Tom Davis used to be Chairman of Fairfax County Board of Supervisors before becoming a Congressman. As many people who worked for Fairfax County knew, he was (and is still) an alcoholic who was frequently drunk at work and at public events.
Let’s see. Virginia just elected three solid conservatives in landslides for governor, lieutenant governor, and attorney general. Yet the guy seems to think that only “moderates” will win office and regain majorities. And we’re supposed to listen to him, a “moderate” Republican, who did not run in 2008 because he knew he would lose his election?
Gabe on December 1, 2009 at 11:57 PM
To put it in Chicago community organizer terms, it’s much easier to carjack someone else’s political party than to build one from scratch.
RBMN on December 1, 2009 at 11:57 PM
cynccook:
Yes, it was. But like AIDS, Reagan somehow got the blame for it.
Terrye on December 1, 2009 at 11:57 PM
Right! Back when we all still believed what the “evening news” told us. Thank God for cable and the interwebs!
cynccook on December 1, 2009 at 11:58 PM
So between the two of us, we can talk about the full spectrum of Washington issues.
As in dumb and dumber. (not the issues but the policies)
platypus on December 1, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Yes, conservatives won, but they did it talking about issues that mattered to voters in those elections. There was not a lot of talk about gay marriage and abortion. There was talk about taxes and jobs and roads…
Terrye on December 2, 2009 at 12:00 AM
Gabe on December 1, 2009 at 11:57 PM
Isn’t it funny how there’s always so much more to the story? Almost like there’s selective editing going on….Thanks, Politico.
cynccook on December 2, 2009 at 12:01 AM
Urban sweeps actually are more effective.
Chris_Balsz on December 2, 2009 at 12:01 AM
I had my doubts even then. I was on the farm in those days and I would listen to those guys do stories about agriculture and the farm economy {which sucked} and they would get it wrong all the time.
I thought to myself…if they are as wrong about everything else as they are farming, then we are wasting our time listening to them.
Terrye on December 2, 2009 at 12:03 AM
Chris:
Probably, that is where so many of the people are.
Terrye on December 2, 2009 at 12:04 AM
Terrye on December 2, 2009 at 12:03 AM
I love how they’re trying to canonize Cronkite now. A self-avowed Communist! How much misinformation do you suppose he personally was responsible for?
cynccook on December 2, 2009 at 12:04 AM
What is evident in this time is the simple fact (simon, you LSS today?) that there have been no conservatives as POTUS since Reagan.
What is likewise relevant is that more special interest groups (1%) supply 90% of the influence in the Executive branch.
Hey, ev body gotta get dey gumit cheeeese.
Something smells.
OkieDoc on December 2, 2009 at 12:05 AM
Urban sweeps actually are more effective.
Chris_Balsz on December 2, 2009 at 12:01 AM
Another awful aspect of all this is the horrible conditions illegal immigrants are forced to live and work under. A lot of the ‘employers’ have a lot to answer for, as well. The whole system sucks.
cynccook on December 2, 2009 at 12:06 AM
I shudder to think. Viet Nam for starters.
Terrye on December 2, 2009 at 12:06 AM
I live in Virginia. The three candidates were all pro-life and against gay marriage, and they didn’t hide their positions or pander to liberals as “moderates” do. They were not “moderates,” like pro-abortion and liberal on many other issues Tom Davis. Yet they were elected in landslides, and Tom Davis did not run for reelection because he knew he would lose.
Republicans need to learn from this. If Tom Davis can’t even win his own district as a “moderate,” yet his district went for the three conservative candidates in 2009, who is he to be lecturing Republicans on how to win elections?
Gabe on December 2, 2009 at 12:07 AM
Gabe on December 2, 2009 at 12:07 AM
You mean it wasn’t just because they lucked into unpopular opponents? I’m so sick of all the liberal spin on everything. They just don’t get that nobody’s falling for it any more.
cynccook on December 2, 2009 at 12:10 AM
Gabe:
I never said they hid anything. Everyone knew they were conservative Republicans. I said they won by talking about issues that were of interest to the people voting, local issues.
Terrye on December 2, 2009 at 12:10 AM
I am sure the dems have convinced themselves they can pull it off…they will bribe the few dems who still pretend to be honorable and use reconciliation to bypass the real vote requirement. It will be up to the republicans to stoke the resulting anger and then to use the new House majority to stop the funding for the scheme…remember, the dems are doing nothing but taking money for the first few years. They deliver nothing but promises…a lot of folk will be very angry by summer next year.
JIMV on December 2, 2009 at 12:10 AM
JIMV:
I think they have also convinced themselves that this is what people want, even if they don’t know they want it.
Terrye on December 2, 2009 at 12:12 AM
What is important here is that Republicans have never gotten anywhere by trying to downplay their values and appease opposing groups. It doesn’t work. People can tell if you’re not being real. Maybe, finally, it will stop.
cynccook on December 2, 2009 at 12:12 AM
Goodnight,all!
cynccook on December 2, 2009 at 12:13 AM
They can ‘think’ all they want but the polls say different..in fact, their delusion works to America’s advantage. The more they work to cram this mess down our throats, the more folk they lose.
JIMV on December 2, 2009 at 12:14 AM
I was looking at his election results on Wiki and they went down in every election, (as I recall), in a identifiable trend that suggested he would have lost had he run again.
FloatingRock on December 2, 2009 at 12:14 AM
cynccook:
This is true. I do think that making it relevant to people matters however. Letting them know that conservatives have ideas about good governance. That does not mean you hide your values or pretend to be something you are not, but you do have to find away to get your message to people who are not always going to agree with you on every issue.
Terrye on December 2, 2009 at 12:14 AM
Yeah, I know.
Terrye on December 2, 2009 at 12:16 AM
.
She is definitely hot!!
Dasher on December 2, 2009 at 12:19 AM
Now is not the time for a 3rd party. The future of our country is at stake. It is good to scare the Repubs straight for awhile, but when the elections come around, let them call the bluff.
Cloward-Piven is happening right now.
WisCon on December 2, 2009 at 12:21 AM
They say that the more things change, the more they stay the same. This argument about “Purity Tests” went on back in the 1970′s. From Ronald Reagan’s speech at CPAC, 1977…..
One would think that “the smart people” like like those of the Establishment Republicans and even Jonathan Martin would know this. The problem is that they most likely do and don’t care.
The GOP is suppose to be the party of Conservatives. Its time to get some backbone and act like it.
GT on December 2, 2009 at 12:23 AM
As usual. Rush is right. Tom Davis who? Get lost, chump!
roninacreage on December 2, 2009 at 12:23 AM
Didn’t this guy know Reagan was ringmaster of a big tent where all points of view were welcome? Whoever he is, David Frum is gonna hafta straighten him out! /sarc
Chris_Balsz on December 2, 2009 at 12:34 AM
Shear idiocy. Tell that to Pelosi, who keeps nearly the entire Democratic House (and some House Repubicans) in lockstep with a very hard left agenda. Liberals do not accept deviation from their agenda, and yet they are still in power and currently hold a majority. So tell me again, why should we abandon the precepts that founded this nation in the name of holding a majority(regardless of how corrupt that majority is)?
SG1_Conservative on December 1, 2009 at 11:51 PM
Yeah! Polosi is not going to get a health care bill passed nor a cap and trade bill passed.
Tell me, would you rather have McClain as President now or Obama?
Vince on December 2, 2009 at 12:35 AM
Put two males and one female in the same room and you will have at least three different opinions on life. How the hack can you have purity under those conditions?
OldEnglish on December 2, 2009 at 12:36 AM
Er .. that would be heck.
OldEnglish on December 2, 2009 at 12:37 AM
Yeh, good. Keep up the diggin’ on the “buried bones” that the libturds don’t want exposed, on both sides!
As the upcoming national elections are important, it’s vital that we don’t allow these milk toast country clubbers to hijack the tea party all over again.
It’d be easy to stop after several well earned victories, particularly if they throw us a bone as is our want.
Isn’t it time to quit falling for it and keep up the fight?
Demand Representation!
OkieDoc on December 2, 2009 at 12:45 AM
If you don’t stand for something, you stand for nothing.
And the current crop in DC evidently stands for driving our country to the left.
So in order to bring us back to sanity, we have to stand for the right.
Sorry if that’s too simplistic, but it’s the truth. Take out social issues, that’s fine. We’re at a point now that just being fiscally conservative is a divining line. That should not be.
Intrepid on December 2, 2009 at 12:46 AM
I’m standing with Connie.
Saltysam on December 2, 2009 at 1:01 AM
Hollow, self-serving hyperbole. People are demanding better than crooked jerks who change parties when confronted with their treachery. They are demanding more than senators who might do the right thing, even as the whole nation faces collapse.
Now quit yapping like a RINO and go back to changing your money to gold.
Feedie on December 2, 2009 at 1:09 AM
I wonder if the pundits realize that very few average Republicans are aware of or give a damn about these little spats? Guys will run, the folks will vote for them or they won’t. Nothing to see here…
echosyst on December 2, 2009 at 1:43 AM
Hmmmm.
“It is not my job to vote for Republicans. It is the Republican Party’s job to offer me candidates that I would want to vote for.” – memomachine
Might as well put a sticky on it AP.
memomachine on December 2, 2009 at 1:45 AM
Hot, Straight, and Normal, Mr Feedie!
http://www.usscusk.com/images/1947/launch%20pic.jpg
“Let’s Roll”
On Watch on December 2, 2009 at 2:02 AM
I agree with Rush, a 3rd party will only divide the right and give the leftist stateists a free ride with no consequences. I know a lot of good conservatives have had it with the big spending Republicans in recent past. But liberals have taken over our schools, our entertainment and media, our government, our workplaces and they can’t wait to take over our energy industry, our health care providers, and to systematically revoke our liberties, everything from what we eat to what we drive to what light bulbs we can use and I’ll be damned if I will let them take over my political party without a fight. I’m not going to let a bunch of semi-liberal RINOs dictate to me how best to roll over and accept the slow loss of my liberty while throwing posterity under the bus. I’m not going to surrender my party when it gets invaded. I’m not going to cut and run off to some no power Libertarian party and sit on the sidelines and watch my beloved American constitution get screwed by a bunch of ungrateful, arrogant, power hungry, intolerant, commie loving, terrorist kissing, egotistical leftists with visions of creating some fantasy utopia of social life. I’m willing to fight for the Republican party. Join the conservative faction of the GOP and together let us take the whole damn party back and at best, the whole nation. We must at least create some kind of check or balance in our government. We must stop what is happening to our nation, its our only chance.
“If we don’t hang together, we will certainly hang separately”—Ben Franklin
Dollayo on December 2, 2009 at 2:14 AM
Whoa, awesome pic!
Feedie on December 2, 2009 at 2:20 AM
Rush is right, strictly speaking, but I never heard what got him riled. Hope it’s not the Bush-bot chip acting up. Rush has an intellectual Renaissance since Bush II is gone. If the country survives these commie hacks, it doesn’t need another nervous breakdown from those sovereignty-ceding dynasts.
Feedie on December 2, 2009 at 2:36 AM
I don’t know what got Rush so riled. Rush is pretty plugged in to the movers and shakers of the conservative movement. Maybe he sees a 3rd party resurgence that bothered him enough to spend radio time talking about it. I suspect it was some e-mails he received from people that he respects but I’m only speculating.
Dollayo on December 2, 2009 at 2:45 AM
Thanks. Yeah, I heard him mention e-mails, but that was it. Republicans dim their own prospects if they remain deaf and delusional. The economy is bad. Conditions are strange. A third party could arise to replace the Republican ashes — not sit at number three. It would have spontaneous momentum.
Palin is the only wild-card, but she says nothing about a third party. That is the wise course for now — we have the experience with Ross Perot. Palin does not show that kind of instability and I don’t expect it. On the other hand, if conditions grow worse, she might ride a spontaneous wave — seeing it as the right thing to do. Everyone watches and waits.
Feedie on December 2, 2009 at 3:20 AM
Rush is absolutely correct. Let the Demonrats lose elections with a third party. Conservatives must not shoot themselves in the foot with a third party. Conservatives must TAKE BACK the Republican Party!
Yephora on December 2, 2009 at 4:01 AM
Rush is the Jack Bauer of politics.
tai-pan on December 2, 2009 at 4:56 AM
Reagans dead!
We need a deficit hawk or really hundreds of them STAT!
Lonetown on December 2, 2009 at 5:22 AM
You just made a lasting impression. Not the kind you’d like to have made.
Ugly on December 2, 2009 at 6:42 AM
Beck is really scaring the Triumvirate. Problem is, Beck never has advocated a third party movement, he has simply said the possibility of one forming as a counterweight to the one party system is very real if the corruption is not weeded out. I agree with Beck’s analysis as well as his approach.
As for the GOP not advocating socialized medicine, let me remind you they helped expand SCHIP and implemented Medicare D. Mr Limbaugh, please stop trying to do to us what you did during Bush’s terms; Convince us to accept socialism-lite just so your party maintains power. And enough with the feigned outrage about “holding them accountable” for their spending during Bush’s terms. Light verbal slaps on the hand mean nothing to your fellow political elites. Thankfully the American people voted them out of office against your terrible advice to keep the GOP in office, it has had the effect of waking up the people to the dangers we face and encouraged them to take substantive action.
The Triumvirate needs to step down and new conservative leadership needs to take its place. Conservative leadership that looks not at party label but at individual principle. Mr Limbaugh has shown he is a GOP marketer, and with him as a spokesman the GOP knows it can continue to ignore conservatives because they believe they have nowhere to go. Mr Limbaugh advocates this approach because his actions prove the point that he does not wish to hold the GOP accountable. Boy do we ever need new leadership.
What a letdown Rush has turned out to be.
True_King on December 2, 2009 at 6:43 AM
Feedie:
No, it could not. This is magical thinking. For one thing, the Republican party is anything but dead…for another there is no indication anywhere out there that the American people are prepared to back a third party. Even in NY23 with a two bad candidates from the Republican and Democratic parties, a third party guy {who happened to be a Republican} could not win.
The last time Pat Buchanan ran he got less than 1% of the vote. That did not help conservatives. Perot ran and got Clinton elected but he himself could not manage 25% of the vote.
It is madness.
Terrye on December 2, 2009 at 6:45 AM
True_King;
Rush is not a let down, he is just right. That is all. You just don’t want to face that.
Terrye on December 2, 2009 at 6:47 AM
And True-King, Bush did support expanding S-CHIP. The Republicans are downright draconian compared to the nonsense we have seen from the Democrats.
Terrye on December 2, 2009 at 6:49 AM
I have to remind my husband of his third party vote for Perot when he complains about Clinton.
The Republicans have guaranteed another Democrat win if a third party is formed.
yoda on December 2, 2009 at 6:55 AM
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