Bad news from Black Friday: Average spending declines 8.6%

posted at 9:30 am on December 1, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Two surveys of American consumers about the biggest shopping weekend of the year portends another “dismal” holiday season for retailers.  Both Gallup and the National Retail Federation concluded that per-capita spending dropped 8.6% from the previous year, which had been one of the worst in a generation.  The NRF, the major trade group for retailers, details the bad news:

Washington, November 29, 2009 –As the closely-watched Black Friday weekend winds down, a National Retail Federation survey conducted over the weekend confirms the expected: more people spent less. According to NRF’s Black Friday shopping survey, conducted by BIGresearch, 195 million shoppers visited stores and websites over Black Friday weekend*, up from 172 million last year. However, the average spending over the weekend dropped to $343.31 per person from $372.57 a year ago. Total spending reached an estimated $41.2 billion.

“Shoppers proved this weekend that they were willing to open their wallets for a bargain, heading out to take advantage of great deals on less expensive items like toys, small appliances and winter clothes,” said Tracy Mullin, NRF President and CEO. “While retailers are encouraged by the number of Americans who shopped over Black Friday weekend, they know they have their work cut out for them to keep people coming back through Christmas. Shoppers can continue to expect retailers to focus on low prices and bargains through the end of December.”

Gallup found almost exactly the same thing in their separate survey:

Americans report spending an average of $106 each day on the Friday and Saturday after Thanksgiving this year, down 8.6% from the $116 average reported on those same days last year.

Gallup analysis has suggested that spending for Christmas gifts this year will be roughly the same as last year, a weak forecast given last year’s dismal overall holiday spending. Gallup’s current day-to-day assessment of overall spending on the critically important days after Thanksgiving appears consistent with this earlier forecast. …

Estimated daily spending for the two days after Thanksgiving this year is an average of $106, compared to a daily average of $116 last year. This is an 8.6% drop, similar to what the National Retail Federation has reported. Precise estimates for spending on specific days are based on smaller sample sizes, have larger margins of error, and Gallup does not usually report them. It can be said, however, that the estimate for Thanksgiving Day itself was very low in both 2008 and 2009 — as would be expected. But the daily spending trends on Friday and Saturday after Thanksgiving this year appear to be reversed in comparison to 2008. Last year, Americans reported spending more on Black Friday than on Saturday; this year, Saturday was the bigger day.

The percentage of Americans who report spending any amount of money on these two days this year is comparable to the percentage for the same days last year. On Black Friday and on Saturday, Gallup estimated that about 70% of Americans spent at least some money on each day.

Last year, Gallup predicted a bad holiday season for retailers based on that dropoff from Friday to Saturday.  An increase, as seen this year, may mean better news as we get closer to Christmas.  However, the 8.6% decline seen by both Gallup and NRF from an already-bad baseline in 2008 strongly suggests that this will be another slow year.

Gallup asks a good question in its analysis.  After all of the economic turmoil in 2008-9, have we hit a “new normal” of lower spending and more frugal lifestyles?  Will we ever see a return to extravagant gift-giving and consumption, or will the American consumer become more fiscally conservative and learn to save more?  This year will make for a bad test case, since so many are unemployed or underemployed, but the question may loom large for retailers even after some sense of recovery takes place.

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Well thats not what the propaganda dept put out last week now is it?

bluegrass on December 1, 2009 at 9:32 AM

Gallup asks a good question in its analysis. After all of the economic turmoil in 2008-9, have we hit a “new normal” of lower spending and more frugal lifestyles?

My wife and I are paying down credit card debt. Once that’s settled in the next few months, I wanna start saving for a rainy day. Something tells me 2010 will have lots of those thanks to this adminstration.

What’s funny is that when I mentioned this at Thanksgiving dinner, her family looked at me funny as if it’s unheard of that people spend less and save more. But I think that there is going to a permanent shift in a lot of folks who got burned in the last couple years by the housing bubble and stock market crash.

Doughboy on December 1, 2009 at 9:34 AM

We’re all over-stimulated.

Or, it’s because of a grassroots movement to “Buy American”, leading to reduced sales nationwide.

Or, the country is fully committed to the jobless recovery.

BobMbx on December 1, 2009 at 9:35 AM

to really see how bad it is consider the comps
last year was absolutely desolate and we are down significantly from that metric
but dont worry Larry Summers says we are going to be an export economy now and Asia will suddenly become consumers of our goods

what goods?

not sure, green widgets maybe

ginaswo on December 1, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Why this is simply unprecedented!

Thank goodness they passed the porkulus as quickly as they did, or we would surely have fallen off the edge of the catastrophic damage of George Bush.

Bring me some figgy pudding, and BRING IT RIGHT NOW!

singlemalt_18 on December 1, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Per capita spending was down, but overall sales were up .5%, indicating a lot more people decided to put up with the traffic and lines in order to take advantage of deals.

Of course, the .5% increase is itself misleading, since that’s the increase over last year, when everyone thought the world was going to end.

BadgerHawk on December 1, 2009 at 9:37 AM

FTI forecast a drop of about 1.9% in holiday retail sales and the CNBC GE guys all pooh poohed it

of course these guys got it right last year also, they were not negative enough but they were negative

ginaswo on December 1, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Were the prices for comparable goods lower this year? Target earlier said it was going cut cut toy prices by 50%.

Could be that the same amount of purchases were made but at much lower prices.

But since it’s MackDaddy’s economy we’ll just pretend that he’s the reason for the poor season.

davidk on December 1, 2009 at 9:38 AM

singlemalt

we wont go until we get some
we wont go until we get some

ginaswo on December 1, 2009 at 9:38 AM

Will we ever see a return to extravagant gift-giving and consumption, or will the American consumer become more fiscally conservative and learn to save more?

Of course we will. We are Americans. We believe in the hope and promise of a better tomorrow. It is always morning in America. It is just that for the next few years we are going to have to be a bit more frugal and husband our resources. Right now we are navigating some dangerous shoals, but there will be a nice calm bay at the end.

rbj on December 1, 2009 at 9:38 AM

To fulfill that plan convert your savings to gold or you will lose as the dollar is worth less each day as Bambi prints more monopoly money at the mint. Also buy large suitcases to use to haul your money when shopping next year. There will be plenty of it, it just will not be worth anything. A loaf of breAd and a pound of bologna about $ 50.00. Now thats hope and change.

bluegrass on December 1, 2009 at 9:38 AM

Obama stash

mmmmm mmmmm mmmmm

bluegrass on December 1, 2009 at 9:40 AM

We need a second stimulus, that consists only of sending gift cards out to Americans. They can in turn use those gift cards to purchase lots of Christmas gifts, which will be good for companies and raise the nation’s GDP.

A rising GDP will convince employer’s to hire people. It’s genius!

-Paul Krugman

BadgerHawk on December 1, 2009 at 9:40 AM

Lower spending was simply going to happen as Baby Boomers age; the economy makes that even more significant for others. And maybe, just maybe, people are getting more financially responsible and not living beyond their means. That would be a good thing.

michaelo on December 1, 2009 at 9:40 AM

Will we ever see a return to extravagant gift-giving and consumption, or will the American consumer become more fiscally conservative and learn to save more?

Jeesh, sure would not want people to save. Thank goodness our government realizes this bad behaviors and taxes savings and investments.

WashJeff on December 1, 2009 at 9:40 AM

Sadly, no, this is not the new normal. Americans have proven time and again to have the memory of a goldfish. That’s not always a bad thing. We put setbacks behind us. We tend to forgive people and give them second chances. But it also means that as soon as there is a whiff that folks may be working again, the “celebratory” spending will commence.
It took an actual depression to shape our grandparents’ outlook on life and spending. We haven’t faced 1/10th of what they have… and likely won’t.
Spending explodes again when Obama and the Dems lose big in the 2010 elections.

Sugar Land on December 1, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Did they factor in Ammunition sales?

Fake8 on December 1, 2009 at 9:43 AM

I told Uncle Jed that if we can save or create 100 million jobs and save the people money with free health insurance they would have more money to spend at Christmas. Uncle Jed said I should sell some of Michelles turnips out of her victory garden

bluegrass on December 1, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Obama doesn’t know the details but he says the shoppers acted stupidly against Black Friday.

LibTired on December 1, 2009 at 9:44 AM

I’m more interested in manufacturing numbers.

I wonder how much the assault against bonuses played into this? I’m sure the NYC numbers were way down. I’d be interested to see bonus data from all companies. Did some companies cut back on bonuses out of fear of being villified, fear of what the Marxist morons in DC are going to do next?

I’m glad we do our holiday shopping with funds from a Christmas club. I’m sure credit sales were way down, but in the long run, most consumers will be better off by spending less and incurring less debt.

reaganaut on December 1, 2009 at 9:44 AM

The shopping is settled.

Weight of Glory on December 1, 2009 at 9:45 AM

in lieu of open thread here is that quote for NYC throwing away food for the homeless b/c of transfat,

http://www.metro.us/us/article/2009/11/24/08/2928-82/index.xml

Keeping the Homeless Healthy
This pre-Thanksgiving story in the New York edition of Metro International has drawn a fair amount of attention:

When a small church comes to the Bowery Mission bearing fried chicken with trans fat, unwittingly breaking the law, they’re told “thank you.” Then workers quietly chuck the food, mission director Tom Bastile said.

“It’s always hard for us to do,” Basile said. “We know we have to do it.” . . .

The city’s law banishing trans fat took effect in July 2008 and touched everyone with Health Department food licenses–including emergency food providers.

ginaswo on December 1, 2009 at 9:46 AM

I’m more interested in manufacturing numbers.

I wonder how much the assault against bonuses played into this? I’m sure the NYC numbers were way down. I’d be interested to see bonus data from all companies. Did some companies cut back on bonuses out of fear of being villified, fear of what the Marxist morons in DC are going to do next?

I’m glad we do our holiday shopping with funds from a Christmas club. I’m sure credit sales were way down, but in the long run, most consumers will be better off by spending less and incurring less debt.

reaganaut on December 1, 2009 at 9:44 AM

- – -

Obamas Propaganda Dept has decided already what your concerns are. You are simple confused with this new economic boom.

bluegrass on December 1, 2009 at 9:47 AM

reaganaut on December 1, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Banks hardly advertise Christmas Clubs and Vacation Clubs anymore, although I do see signs inside the banks. This is no doubt because people put it on a credit card.

Shifting back to a thrifty society would be the best in the long run. The Greatest Generation came of age in the Depression, and learned the hard way to stay out of debt and save. The Baby Boomers didn’t pay attention, though, and neither have their children.

Wethal on December 1, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Will we ever see a return to extravagant gift-giving and consumption, or will the American consumer become more fiscally conservative and learn to save more?

I’m sure we will, everything is cyclical. We just need to find a happy (happier?) medium where consumption doesn’t completely dwarf production.

reaganaut on December 1, 2009 at 9:48 AM

Eric Holder is working on getting ACORN workers big bonuses as we speak.

bluegrass on December 1, 2009 at 9:49 AM

Just in my local area I can tell black Friday and the entire weekend was a flop. Walmart and BJ’s both had pallet loads of Black Friday merchandise left on Sunday afternoon.

Johnnyreb on December 1, 2009 at 9:49 AM

Were the prices for comparable goods lower this year? Target earlier said it was going cut cut toy prices by 50%.

Could be that the same amount of purchases were made but at much lower prices.

But since it’s MackDaddy’s economy we’ll just pretend that he’s the reason for the poor season.

davidk on December 1, 2009 at 9:38 AM

I’m not sure about Target’s toy prices, but all of the so called “deals” this past Friday and yesterday were absolutely horrible. There wasn’t really that much taken off of anything unless you were looking for SD or microSD cards. And every single store had the same crap at the same price. There was no variety from what I could tell.

MobileVideoEngineer on December 1, 2009 at 9:49 AM

Actually that is good news. Americans spend way the hell too much on useless things. The more we stop spending and start saving the better our economy will be in the long run.

angryed on December 1, 2009 at 9:49 AM

Banks hardly advertise Christmas Clubs and Vacation Clubs anymore

Not at all, although I stil bank at a small credit union. I’m sure plenty of people have never heard of a Christmas club (I still use a vacation club, too). The banks make far more pushing their own credit cards. It just feels so much better to swipe that card and hit “debit”.

A lot of people like to pull the old, charge in December, pay it off with the tax refund. With the old bait and switch that Obowma pulled last year, there are going to be some very unhappy people this Spring.

reaganaut on December 1, 2009 at 9:53 AM

Hope for change!

DarkCurrent on December 1, 2009 at 9:54 AM

I’m not sure about Target’s toy prices, but all of the so called “deals” this past Friday and yesterday were absolutely horrible. There wasn’t really that much taken off of anything unless you were looking for SD or microSD cards. And every single store had the same crap at the same price. There was no variety from what I could tell.

MobileVideoEngineer on December 1, 2009 at 9:49 AM

There were great deals on Blu-rays, DVDs, and video games. Unfortunately I already owned most of the ones on sale since I tend to buy a lot of them when they’re released.

Doughboy on December 1, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Just in my local area I can tell black Friday and the entire weekend was a flop. Walmart and BJ’s both had pallet loads of Black Friday merchandise left on Sunday afternoon.

Johnnyreb on December 1, 2009 at 9:49 AM

Best Buy had a 32 inch LCD tv for $299.99 and they barely sold at all. I went to 3 Best Buys on Friday for a different item and all 3 of them had at least 12 of the tvs left and 2 of those 3 stores were the smaller stores.

MobileVideoEngineer on December 1, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Thank goodness our government realizes this bad behaviors and taxes savings and investments.

WashJeff on December 1, 2009 at 9:40 AM

Shame on us for allowing this to happen, and exactley why I’ve opened a coffee can savings account

crazy texas on December 1, 2009 at 9:55 AM

With the old bait and switch that Obowma pulled last year, there are going to be some very unhappy people this Spring.

Cripes, I’m in 2010 already. You get the idea.

reaganaut on December 1, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Sounds like a lot of saved or created Christmas gifts….

PatriotRider on December 1, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Send Tiger Woods wife to White House with a caddie and bag of clubs. She looks a hell of a lot better than Ms Twiggy who crashed the party last week.

bluegrass on December 1, 2009 at 9:58 AM

Um…maybe because 99% of the “deals” on Black Friday sucked?

MadisonConservative on December 1, 2009 at 10:00 AM

MobileVideoEngineer on December 1, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Everybody has their 720p LCD TVs on sale because consumers are buying 1080p now. Furniture Stores and Casinos are giving 720s away.

kingsjester on December 1, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Um…maybe because 99% of the “deals” on Black Friday sucked?

MadisonConservative on December 1, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Exactly, that’s what I was saying. Electronics were always the big thing on Black Friday and the deals were just horrible this year. I mean I got probably 90% of my shopping done on Black Friday, but I didn’t even get to any stores until 9:15 because it’s not like the deals were that great anyway.

MobileVideoEngineer on December 1, 2009 at 10:02 AM

We need a second stimulus, that consists only of sending gift cards out to Americans. They can in turn use those gift cards to purchase lots of Christmas gifts, which will be good for companies and raise the nation’s GDP.

A rising GDP will convince employer’s to hire people. It’s genius!

-Paul Krugman

BadgerHawk on December 1, 2009 at 9:40 AM

BH,

Better still. Let’s just issue everyone debit cards that they can use to draw down on their individual Social Security balances. After all, there is that trust fund lock box with all that money just sitting there, right? /S

singer on December 1, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Spending down 8.6%. Lets see, unemployment up to 10.2%.

Do you suppose there’s any correlation there. People on unemployment are lucky to feed themselves much less spend heavily on Christmas. Unemployment doesn’t seem to get much mention in this article.

My house hold, like many American families, is more focused on paying down any debt and building savings, than splurging on Christmas gifts.

It’s going to be a long winter folks, something like 3 years or so.

donh525 on December 1, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Baby furniture and supplies weren’t on sale at all. My wife and I went ahead and bought because we couldn’t put it off much longer.

MarkTheGreat on December 1, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Cavuto was on last night talking about how online spending is up this year.

I would rather shop online. And every year I do more of it there. I think this one-day-of-the-year measure of holiday spending is antiquated.

They need to look at changing the indicators.

keebs on December 1, 2009 at 10:09 AM

I know I am getting alot of Christmas presents because my lovely husband was sick over the weekend and spent all his time shopping online.

BigD on December 1, 2009 at 10:09 AM

Isn’t it about time for a Cash for Clunkers Kash for Kris Kringle government intervention?

What liberal in their right mind (I know, I know; oxymoron) could say no?

hillbillyjim on December 1, 2009 at 10:14 AM

This is just what was reported on radio – no, wait, what the radio said was that sales were UP 11% over last year.

Vashta.Nerada on December 1, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Oh yeah, Ed? Well without the Stimulus, per capita spending would have been down 8.7%!

Chuck Schick on December 1, 2009 at 10:18 AM

Baby furniture and supplies weren’t on sale at all. My wife and I went ahead and bought because we couldn’t put it off much longer.

MarkTheGreat on December 1, 2009 at 10:07 AM

That stuff never goes on sale.

angryed on December 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM

After all of the economic turmoil in 2008-9, have we hit a “new normal” of lower spending and more frugal lifestyles?

LOL no because the retailers that just managed to hold on last year will if this report is correct most likely fail this year. that could mean Kmart, Sears, and others go belly up. Which means that more commercial property hits the market. Since there is already a glut in commercial real estate that means forclosures go up as develpoers can not offload the real estate which means another round of credit problems for the banks both big and mid to small banks. which means less credit, which means mor elayoffs which means more funemployment. which means the “new normal” will be less. which means more home forclosures etc etc.

It gets worse alot worse if the holdiay season is down 8.6% we are in for a world of hurt.

unseen on December 1, 2009 at 10:25 AM

Stimulus!

Good Lt on December 1, 2009 at 10:31 AM

With last year being so tough, if this year’s shopping season is a bust, expect many more retailers to go belly up by Spring. That should do wonders for the commercial real estate market.

GnuBreed on December 1, 2009 at 10:32 AM

Hey unseen, I had not seen your post — but obviously I agree.

GnuBreed on December 1, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Gallup asks a good question in its analysis. After all of the economic turmoil in 2008-9, have we hit a “new normal” of lower spending and more frugal lifestyles? Will we ever see a return to extravagant gift-giving and consumption, or will the American consumer become more fiscally conservative and learn to save more?

I like many Americans are reserving my funds and spending for guns, ammo, gun safes, freezers, generators, deer processing equip and staple food supplies for the time when the Fascists drive the dollar to zer0 and the do nothin, quart drinkin, dope smokin, porch sittin, professional baby makin, non productive types come lookin for a handout or to simply steal that which I have worked all my life for.

Oh I forgot Gold and Silver, got to have some of that on hand just in case there’s an America left after the left gets tarred feather and hung from the lampposts!

dhunter on December 1, 2009 at 10:44 AM

That’s not bad news, that’s good news. People are spending less money on useless crap and presumably are repairing their balance sheets. That’s a good thing.

This, incidentally, is another reason why cash for clunkers was an awful idea – it just got people to junk perfectly good cars and spend money on cars they probably didn’t need.

needtoknow on December 1, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Average spending declines 8.6%

Hmmmmmmmm … if I think like a liberal then that means if people are spending less, that means they have more money I can steal by raising taxes on everything!

Voila!

darwin on December 1, 2009 at 10:53 AM

Wisdom of crowds. People aren’t always smart, but crowds are never wrong. We can see what is not being said. There are no “green shoots,” so we are learning to live with less.

Angry Dumbo on December 1, 2009 at 10:55 AM

What? The local media hyped the fact that sales were up 10% to last year. The media making up stories again to hype Obowma’s economy?

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh.

We need a second stimulus, that consists only of sending gift cards out to Americans. They can in turn use those gift cards to purchase lots of Christmas gifts, which will be good for companies and raise the nation’s GDP.

A rising GDP will convince employer’s to hire people. It’s genius!

-Paul Krugman

BadgerHawk on December 1, 2009 at 9:40 AM

HUH? The Keynesian economist recommending the people spend their money to stimulate the economy? Why not just recommend a tax cut? Tax cuts are much cheaper and revenue to the gov’t will increase, basic economics you buffoon.

Proves, once again, that Nobel prize winners are not the sharpest knives in the drawer.

dthorny on December 1, 2009 at 10:55 AM

This, incidentally, is another reason why cash for clunkers was an awful idea – it just got people to junk perfectly good cars and spend money on cars they probably didn’t need.

needtoknow on December 1, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Wait next year when many “clunker buyers” have a large car registration bill due, something I’m sure they never thought of.

The cheapest car you’ll ever own is the one you already have – Ron Blue, Master your Money.

dthorny on December 1, 2009 at 10:59 AM

According to Cavuto’s show yesterday, retail spending is down but internet purchases are through the roof. People are trying to save gas or something.

I don’t know how indicative my habits are of the general population, but I use the internet when I have to ship packages because it’s way more convenient than going to the post office – but mostly I try to shop locally. It would not be a good thing if the local businesses and malls went under.

Buy Danish on December 1, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Only one answer to this, NRF and Gallup are both RACIST organizations. Just ask any of the MSM the stimulus is working, recovery is underway, happy days are here again.

Seriously, does not the American consumer understand that you have to borrow and spend so you don’t go bankrupt[/slowjoe]

jukin on December 1, 2009 at 11:04 AM

The Donkey and the Elephant
By Steve H in AZ

The Donkey and the Elephant
Did board the ship of state
Each took turns at steering
Whilst the other did berate

The people did the rowing
Through every change of course
While the Donkey and the Elephant
Held forth their long discourse

One day the ship did spring a leak
No time did the Donkey waste
“Let me steer now and I’ll save us all!”
And the Elephant was replaced

“It’s a simple problem for me to solve.”
The Donkey then did spout,
“There is too much water in the boat,
We’ll drill holes and let some out!”

The people then did ship their oars
And rushed the helm as a horde
And the Donkey and the Elephant were
Both thrown overboard

The ship rose in the water
And the leaks were quickly stemmed
And the Donkey and the Elephant
Were left to sink or swim

Steve H in AZ on December 1, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Is spending down because people didn’t buy or were the items purchased at a greater savings than last year?

Gaming systems, televisions and cameras were a greater bargain this year than last..

Pam on December 1, 2009 at 11:08 AM

This, incidentally, is another reason why cash for clunkers was an awful idea – it just got people to junk perfectly good cars and spend money on cars they probably didn’t need.

Plus it didn’t actually create any new demand, just pulled forward future demand. The 20% of the population that are either unemployed or underemployed aren’t exactly chomping at the bit to take on a brand spankin’ new car loan.

TheMightyMonarch on December 1, 2009 at 11:25 AM

Internet purchases are, sometimes, not taxed and include free shipping, saving precious dollars for the coming mandated healthcare that nobody wants.

dthorny on December 1, 2009 at 11:27 AM

With last year being so tough, if this year’s shopping season is a bust, expect many more retailers to go belly up by Spring. That should do wonders for the commercial real estate market.

GnuBreed on December 1, 2009 at 10:32 AM

Macy’s is toast in 2010, mark my words. That’s a hell of a lot of square footage CRE holders won’t be getting rent for.

Just saying…if you have gift cards, spend them now. Before too long they’ll only be good for picking your teeth.

TheMightyMonarch on December 1, 2009 at 11:28 AM

I like many Americans are reserving my funds and spending for guns, ammo, gun safes, freezers, generators, deer processing equip and staple food supplies for the time when the Fascists drive the dollar to zer0 and the do nothin, quart drinkin, dope smokin, porch sittin, professional baby makin, non productive types come lookin for a handout or to simply steal that which I have worked all my life for.
Oh I forgot Gold and Silver, got to have some of that on hand just in case there’s an America left after the left gets tarred (and) feather(ed) and hung from the lampposts!
dhunter on December 1, 2009 at 10:44 AM

I hear you sister (or brother).

I would suggest other Great Americans do the same – and if they’ve well on there on this ( because you can never have enough guns, ammo or supplies), get other Great Americans to do the same.

Juno77 on December 1, 2009 at 11:29 AM

one other reason spending is down is that there is no must have this year? Flat panel tv are in every home. blue ray/ what the use? Xbox, ps3 already sat on the market. Wii? same. no hot toy for the kids either. How many clothes do you need? Alot of gifts will be cahs this year because people no tha tis what most people need.

unseen on December 1, 2009 at 11:32 AM

Steve H in AZ on December 1, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Very good! Love it.

Missy on December 1, 2009 at 11:33 AM

Aren’t we all glad America chose change last year?

BobbyDank on December 1, 2009 at 11:36 AM

Um…maybe because 99% of the “deals” on Black Friday sucked?

MadisonConservative on December 1, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Good to know I’m not the only one who gets this. I used to work retail and I clearly remember the busiest days for the price change clerk…the day before a sale. 10% off everything ain’t that great of a deal when all your fast moving items just got a 15% price hike the day before.

I stayed home and played on my long-neglected X-Box on Black Friday. This week is probably the time to shop. I’d prefer not to at all since I’m out of work come January, but my folks go bat-guano insane on gifts so I have to contribute something.

Personally I’m most looking forward to the new tradition my wife and I are starting this year…the booze exchange. I’m hoping for a nice cognac or brandy, my wife will probably get a good rum or some fine tequila. Something to toast the incoming economic collapse while we dine on Mac and Cheese and maybe a few vegetables from the garden.

TheMightyMonarch on December 1, 2009 at 11:38 AM

I bought some power cords and lighted spiral trees to put on our patio. That’s all.

And thanks to Obamanomics, that’s more than I could afford.

madmonkphotog on December 1, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Wait next year when many “clunker buyers” have a large car registration bill due, something I’m sure they never thought of.

dthorny on December 1, 2009 at 10:59 AM

They’re also going to have to pay taxes on that C4C check they received. Not to mention many of them are having to deal with a car payment after turning in a car that was already paid for.

MarkTheGreat on December 1, 2009 at 12:24 PM

I’ll pay for shipping rather than give one more damn dime of sales tax to the State of NJ.

bloviator on December 1, 2009 at 12:32 PM

DUH!!!!

Salaries and bonuses at some firms have been cut in 1/2 over the last year. When you have less money to spend you…….drumroll for the Associated Press…….you spend less money.

All part of White House Nobel Judas plan to destroy the U.S. Economy and have the gov’t redistribute the wealth.

Wonder how CNN & Politico will react when the FedGov turns to devour them (and redistribute their “wealth”)?

PappyD61 on December 1, 2009 at 12:55 PM

BH,

Better still. Let’s just issue everyone debit cards that they can use to draw down on their individual Social Security balances. After all, there is that trust fund lock box with all that money just sitting there, right? /S

singer on December 1, 2009 at 10:05 AM

They did that for Katrina victims and they spent the money at my casino. True story, they would walk over from arena where they were staying and play all night. I don`t see why the One couldn`t do the same it worked so well before! Lunacy.

LSUMama on December 1, 2009 at 12:57 PM

Small volume increases coupled with massive discounting will generate a net cash flow decline….

phreshone on December 1, 2009 at 1:11 PM

The BLS.gov news release on layoffs showed that retailers expected a bad season. One of the three hardest hit groups of workers were in retail. Retailers always hire more personnel for the holidays. This year they cut many thousands from their payrolls.

dogsoldier on December 1, 2009 at 1:40 PM

Wow! With 17+% unemployed, sales are DOWN. Who would ever have believed that?

Sure glad Nancy and Company passed that “Stimulus” legislation. Otherwise we’d really be hurting.

GarandFan on December 1, 2009 at 2:05 PM

More shoppers, less spending? Sounds like what you would expect with higher unemployment.

tom on December 1, 2009 at 2:07 PM

In honor of Pinnochio, the lyin puppet that got us into this mess can we start calling it Half Black friday

dhunter on December 1, 2009 at 3:22 PM

After all of the economic turmoil in 2008-9, have we hit a “new normal” of lower spending and more frugal lifestyles?

I certainly hope so. The average American carries more than $8,000 in credit card debt. Personal bankruptcies are soaring. We are defaulting on our credit cards, mortgages, and other loans are record rates.

We need a decade of austerity. We need to reject consumerism, pay off our debts, and begin saving again. And this would be lead by Washington. Unfortuately, Congress and our president have a “Do as I say, not as I do” mentality. The symbolism of last week’s $500K Indian-themed dinner party during this time of recession was appalling.

DarkKnight3565 on December 1, 2009 at 3:43 PM

You know what’s worse?? I have a home based small retail business and I just realized TODAY that the vendors aren’t (or obviously haven’t been) stocking inventory for us retailers to sell!! No one has anything! Literally! The tsunami commeth…

DanaSmiles on December 1, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Better still. Let’s just issue everyone debit cards that they can use to draw down on their individual Social Security balances. After all, there is that trust fund lock box with all that money just sitting there, right? /S

singer on December 1, 2009 at 10:05 AM

But, as you know, Congress beat us to it.

davidk on December 1, 2009 at 4:34 PM

You know what’s worse?? I have a home based small retail business and I just realized TODAY that the vendors aren’t (or obviously haven’t been) stocking inventory for us retailers to sell!! No one has anything! Literally! The tsunami commeth…

DanaSmiles on December 1, 2009 at 3:48 PM

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/05/07/how_google_earth_explains_the_financial_crisis

davidk on December 1, 2009 at 4:45 PM

This thread is racist!

/Joy Behar

SouthernGent on December 1, 2009 at 4:51 PM

I figure I can stay “going Galt” for another 2 years, if necessary.

Looking into Swiss citizenship if Ogabe stays in office.

GunRunner on December 1, 2009 at 5:44 PM

Will we ever see a return to extravagant gift-giving and consumption, or will the American consumer become more fiscally conservative and learn to save more?

Yeah, if the American people think they can afford it.

I’m uncomfortable with this running subtext (not just from here, but even from Glenn Beck) that spending on the part of the American people along with increased debt is somehow a bad thing. Strange that it was a good thing in between government-induced fiscal screw ups.

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 1, 2009 at 11:38 PM

It’s worse than anybody believed …

Joy Behar Thinks “Black Friday” is a Racist Term

J_Crater on December 2, 2009 at 1:01 AM

davidk on December 1, 2009 at 4:45 PM

That’s exactly what one vendor told me! We’re not alone and it’s hitting shore now!!

DanaSmiles on December 2, 2009 at 11:52 AM