Will Washington shooting damage Huckabee bid?

posted at 12:15 pm on November 30, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

How could it not?  It’s the second time that a man granted clemency by Mike Huckabee over the objections of prosecutors has committed a violent act that would have been prevented otherwise.   Maurice Clemmons had his lengthy prison sentence commuted by Huckabee in 2000, despite a lifetime pattern of violent crime and erratic behavior, nine years before Clemmons shot four Seattle police officers to death in a coffee shop:

Maurice Clemmons, the 37-year-old Tacoma man being sought for questioning in the killing this morning of four Lakewood police officers, has a long criminal record punctuated by violence, erratic behavior and concerns about his mental health.

Nine years ago, then-Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee granted clemency to Clemmons, commuting his lengthy prison sentence over the protests of prosecutors.

“This is the day I’ve been dreading for a long time,” Larry Jegley, prosecuting attorney for Arkansas’ Pulaski County said tonight when informed that Clemmons was being sought for questioning in connection with the killings.

Clemmons’ criminal history includes at least five felony convictions in Arkansas and at least eight felony charges in Washington. The record also stands out for the number of times he has been released from custody despite questions about the danger he posed.

Huckabee, who ran for the Republican presidential nomination last year, issued a statement tonight calling the slaying of the police officers “a horrible and tragic event.”

If Clemmons is found responsible, “it will be the result of a series of failures in the criminal justice system in both Arkansas and Washington State,” Huckabee said.

As Michelle reminds us, it’s not the first time Huckabee had reason to regret his generosity:

New sources, including an advisor to Gov. Mike Huckabee, have told the Arkansas Times that Huckabee and a senior member of his staff exerted behind-the-scenes influence to bring about the parole of rapist Wayne Dumond, who Missouri authorities say raped and killed a woman there shortly after his parole.

Huckabee has denied a role in Dumond’s release, which has become an issue in his race for re-election against Democrat Jimmie Lou Fisher. Fisher says Huckabee’s advocacy of Dumond’s freedom, plus other acts of executive clemency, exhibit poor judgment. In response, Huckabee has shifted responsibility for Dumond’s release to others, claiming former Gov. Jim Guy Tucker made Dumond eligible for parole and saying the Post Prison Transfer Board made the decision on its own to free Dumond.

But the Times’ new reporting shows the extent to which Huckabee and a key aide were involved in the process to win Dumond’s release. It was a process marked by deviation from accepted parole practice and direct personal lobbying by the governor, in an apparently illegal and unrecorded closed-door meeting with the parole board (the informal name by which the Post Prison Transfer Board is known).

Six weeks after his release, Dumond raped and killed Carol Sue Shields, and was suspected of killing Sara Andrasek.  This came up in the 2008 Republican primaries, and Huckabee argued that clemency was a difficult matter to judge.  He also laid off considerable blame on prosecutors and his predecessor at the time, and claimed that he had little to do with the Dumond parole.  He doesn’t have the luxury of that argument with Clemmons.  Huckabee signed the commutation, and he did so over the objections of the prosecutors.

Unfortunately for Huckabee, he has two big political problems now.  First, clemency decisions go directly to judgment, as Michael Dukakis learned the hard way in 1988 with the Willie Horton work-furlough controversy.  In that case, Dukakis didn’t make the decision specifically to let Horton out of prison, but backed the program that did.  In this case, Huckabee personally freed Clemmons, and did so with full knowledge of the risks.  That is a very legitimate reason to question Huckabee’s judgment, and his attempt to back away from that decision in his statement doesn’t speak well to his sense of responsibility, either, although Clemmons’ subsequent release from armed-robbery convictions after his clemency spreads that responsibility around.

Second, before Huckabee can get into a general election, he has to win a nomination — and he has to convince conservatives to back him.  That will be very difficult if Huckabee is seen as weak on crime.  A general election electorate might be more sympathetic to a generous use of executive clemency, but Huckabee won’t find that in a Republican primary, where law and order is one of the central tenets of the GOP.

As soon as Huckabee enters the Republican primaries, expect his opponents to make Maurice Clemmons Exhibit A for an argument against Huckabee’s judgment.  And expect it to be effective.

Update: Joe Carter, who worked for Huckabee’s presidential campaign, has an excellent essay on why Huckabee’s personal strength of charitable action is the reason he will never be President:

Reflections on a politician by former campaign staffers should always be taken cum grano salis. This is no exception. While I’m still a fan of the governor I don’t believe he—nor anyone else from the 2008 primary season (from Palin to Romney to Giuliani to Paul)—has any chance of ever becoming President. Because of this, I don’t feel the need to either defend or condemn him. While the tragic chain of events that were set in place by his signing commutations are not entirely—or even primarily—the fault of the governor, he must bear a sufficient measure of responsibility. …

For instance, the politically prudent tactic would have been to simply refuse to grant any leniency—ever. Other governors with their sights set on higher offices had learned that doing nothing—even to correct obvious instances of injustice—was unlikely to cause any long-term political damage. Keeping an innocent man in prison is less harmful to an ambitious politician than freeing someone who may commit other crimes.

Huckabee would certain discover this political reality the hard way. Initially, I chalked it up solely to extraordinary political courage. Later, I tempered this view when I realized that this courage was mixed with a large dose of cluelessness. The governor seemed genuinely surprised that he was held responsible for the criminal acts committed by those whose sentences he had commuted as governor. It was as if he believed that simply having noble intentions and a willingness to make tough decisions would provide political cover. The notion that he should be accountable for future crimes committed by these men seemed as foreign to him as the idea that he should refuse all leniency.

His naivete about how his actions would be judged was compounded by his own belief in the nobleness of his motives. Huckabee was—and likely remains—a true believer in the concept of restorative justice. Like many politicians who latch onto ideas that support their worldview, however, he was enthusiastic about the general theory while failing to grasp the nuances of its application.

I think Joe nails this.  In my opinion, Huckabee would never have signed off on the commutations if he really believed that he was releasing dangerous men.  The problem is that his judgment on that was flawed, and Huckabee didn’t take the counsel of wiser men on some of these cases.  That goes directly to executive judgment.

Update: Andrew Barr has more about reaction from conservative bloggers, myself included, at Politico.


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It’s a shame that this is being used to hurt Huckabee when people should be focused on, I don’t know, THE KILLER!

Narutoboy on November 30, 2009 at 12:16 PM

By By Huckster…and thank god for that.

Rogue on November 30, 2009 at 12:17 PM

Will Washington shooting damage Huckabee bid?

Let’s certainly hope so.

halfastro on November 30, 2009 at 12:17 PM

It’s gotta be a deflating feeling to get the singular piece of news that sinks your Presidential ambitions.

BadgerHawk on November 30, 2009 at 12:17 PM

I agree that this is not about Huckabee, but Huckabee should not have been considered for POTUS long before this nut shot 4 police officers.

ORconservative on November 30, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Goodbye Mike Don’t let the door hit you in your RINO a** on the way out.

bill30097 on November 30, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Basically, both Romney & Huckabee are done in national politics. All their prospective primary opponents need to do is to utter one word for each candidate in a debate:

Romney – RomneyCare
Huckabee – Clemmons

Norwegian on November 30, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Still, there is plenty of responsibility to be held by those with the authority to control a KILLER. This is beyond compassion.

mobydutch on November 30, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Will Washington shooting damage Huckabee bid?

Is water wet?

alexwest on November 30, 2009 at 12:19 PM

If this was his ONLY pardon then he might have a political future. However, he pardoned over 1000 criminals and that is a clear PATTERN.

The sad thing is Huck takes zero responsibility for his failures. This is the second person he pardoned to murder, who is next of the 1000+ he let go?

hanzblinx on November 30, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Dwelling on the obvious, are we?

Huck is not going to run in 2012. He’d lose his Fox gig.

coldwarrior on November 30, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Will Washington shooting damage Huckabee bid?

Why would this undercut his audition for a game show host?

jake-the-goose on November 30, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Will Washington shooting damage Huckabee bid?

bid? what bid?

This guy is toast. Obviously this isn’t ‘his fault’, it’s the creep that pulled the trigger… BUT, Huckabee’s pattern of being a personal savior time and time again is the problem.. he’s toast

gatorboy on November 30, 2009 at 12:20 PM

I thought I heard yesterday that Huck was saying he wasn’t going to run in 2012. I sure hope he doesn’t.

Lets pray for the family of the victims in Washington.

lavell12 on November 30, 2009 at 12:20 PM

He said he wasn’t running on Fox News Sunday. He basically said that he would hang around Fox News for as long as Roger Ailes liked him.

kingsjester on November 30, 2009 at 12:21 PM

Those dead police officers left behind four spouses and nine kids, nine kids. I blame Huckabee because his own legal people told him not to do it and why, but he released the savage anyway.

Our society is falling apart precisely because so many of the human trash which infect it are allowed to walk free.

Bishop on November 30, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Sooooo…Huckabee has the twin Dumond/Clemmons debacles, Romney has his disastrous health care reform efforts, and even Jeb Bush has a family legacy not many voters on either side of the aisle would want to be associated with (myself included)…

So where does that leave us? Are there any candidates left in the GOP that have avoided political taint?

I can only think of one…

gryphon202 on November 30, 2009 at 12:23 PM

See ya Huck, good luck.

Kenosha Kid on November 30, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Bye bye Huck! Enjoy the band tour!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on November 30, 2009 at 12:25 PM

So where does that leave us? Are there any candidates left in the GOP that have avoided political taint?

Quitting her job and being an airhead has already tainted her. Have you not seen her unscripted interviews?

hanzblinx on November 30, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Huck has always come across as a divisive figure within the GOP. I don’t recall him saying anything good about other GOP’rs

Bleed_thelizard on November 30, 2009 at 12:27 PM

I would still take Huckabee over Romney. Hopefully they will both just go away.

mike_NC9 on November 30, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Will Washington shooting damage Huckabee bid?

Of course it will.

Huck’s blind army will try to defend him but the facts are very clear and undeniable.

The perp would still be in prison if not for the Huckster’s so called Christian compassion.

An eye for an eye. Remember that, Hucksters!

Lynn2008 on November 30, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Damage? I say destroy.

NebCon on November 30, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Quitting her job and being an airhead has already tainted her. Have you not seen her unscripted interviews?

hanzblinx on November 30, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Quit his job as senator, shown himself to be a totally incompetent leader, and speaks like a bumbling idiot during speeches and interviews. Sure this wasn’t about Obama?

Narutoboy on November 30, 2009 at 12:27 PM

If Huck had not stuck his nose in in 08, Fred Thompson would be in the WH right now!

ConservativePartyNow on November 30, 2009 at 12:27 PM

You can’t damage what did not exist.

CC

CapedConservative on November 30, 2009 at 12:28 PM

Narutoboy on November 30, 2009 at 12:16 PM

You mean the KILLER that was sentenced by a judge to over ninety years after a jury found him guilty? Why go through the process of trials if they aren’t going to mean anything?

Cindy Munford on November 30, 2009 at 12:28 PM

The shooting certainly damaged Huckabee’s political future, but what was worse was the statement that (as Drew at AOS put it) “which essentially boiled down to a promise to spend the rest of his days looking for the real Governor who was responsible for releasing this career criminal back onto the streets.”

That statement has destroyed his political career, hopefully his media career and (if there is any justice) will lead to his being banished from the company of Man.

Kasper Hauser on November 30, 2009 at 12:28 PM

Considering this is supposed to be a blog, not a gossip rag, may I pose a few questions and see if someone can find the answers? This deserves some digging.

The story here is that Huck commuted the sentance AK had given Clemmons;, not that he gave him a pardon. So…

A: What was the original sentance?
B: What was the commuted sentance?
C: Was Clennons released earleir than the sentance he had left after Huck cummuted the origial sentance?
D: Who released him, and when and why?
E: Was he released on parole?If so,
F: Was he ever picked up for anything that would have been a violation of his parole? If so,
G: Who decided he should not be returned to AK to complete the sentance he was on parole for?

MikeA on November 30, 2009 at 12:29 PM

It is a shame that it took the murder of four police officers to end this shyster’s political career.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

rockmom on November 30, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Would Governor Palin have released this man? I think not.

bloggless on November 30, 2009 at 12:29 PM

I’m no Huck fan but don’t use this horrible murderous act to attack Huckabee. Huck was wrong to let this go but don’t use this as a weapon against him, when there are more important issues with this murderous act.

lavell12 on November 30, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Stick a fork in it Huckabee, you’re campaign is done.

CMonster on November 30, 2009 at 12:29 PM

This isn’t Huckabee’s first Willie Horton moment but his second and this one is devastating to any higher political office. Giving such a horrific criminal a free pass after he serves only 15 percent of his time in jail is unfathomable. Almost as unfathomable as the Washington Courts letting him out on bail for a child rape. But we expect libtard injustice in Washington state, not in conservative Arkansas and not by a supposedly conservative governor. While mercy should sometimes be used by even a conservative governor or President, Mr. Huckabee has failed on numerous occasions to set forth the reasons for such clemency and that is a particular failing in this instance and other instances where Mr. Huckabee has commuted sentences. It does not do Mr. Huckabee any good to try to spin the blame to prosecutors. Prosecutors have no power over grants of clemency and the prosecutors had come out against this particular grant of clemency.
I guess Mike will have to settle for his FOX show and his musical career where he will fit right in with other squishy soft on crime types.

eaglewingz08 on November 30, 2009 at 12:29 PM

I’m no Huck fan but don’t use this horrible murderous act to attack Huckabee. Huck was wrong to let this go but don’t use this as a weapon against him, when there are more important issues with this murderous act.

lavell12 on November 30, 2009 at 12:29 PM

What do you suggest we use?

bloggless on November 30, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Still, there is plenty of responsibility to be held by those with the authority to control a KILLER. This is beyond compassion.

mobydutch on November 30, 2009 at 12:18 PM

People are making it all about him and then discussing the killer and the victims as a side note. I mean, read Malkin’s take on this. Despicable.

Narutoboy on November 30, 2009 at 12:30 PM

The loss is astounding and the focus should be on the officers and their loved ones. That, aside – hopefully this ends the nonsense known as Huckabee. The sooner he is out of the public eye the better and that also applies to that goofy Fox show of his.

Jed_Eckert on November 30, 2009 at 12:30 PM

I wonder if he will have the prosecutors on his show.

bloggless on November 30, 2009 at 12:30 PM

It’s a shame that this is being used to hurt Huckabee when people should be focused on, I don’t know, THE KILLER!

Narutoboy on November 30, 2009 at 12:16 PM

You cannot be serious. The government has a responsibility to protect us from people who are KNOWN to be violent criminals. But Huckabee knew a guy who knew a guy who said that a psycopath had found Christ, so what the heck let’s let him loose on society.

BuzzCrutcher on November 30, 2009 at 12:30 PM

Sooooo…Huckabee has the twin Dumond/Clemmons debacles, Romney has his disastrous health care reform efforts, and even Jeb Bush has a family legacy not many voters on either side of the aisle would want to be associated with (myself included)…

So where does that leave us? Are there any candidates left in the GOP that have avoided political taint?

I can only think of one…

gryphon202 on November 30, 2009 at 12:23 PM

I can think of a couple … Mitch Daniels from ind.
Haley Barbour …Bill Owens …John Thune …

Hows that for starters ….

jqusnr on November 30, 2009 at 12:30 PM

Will anyone be left to contest Sarah! Sarah! Sarah!

huckleberryfriend on November 30, 2009 at 12:31 PM

People are making it all about him and then discussing the killer and the victims as a side note. I mean, read Malkin’s take on this. Despicable.

Narutoboy on November 30, 2009 at 12:30 PM

I don’t think anyone is making the victims a side note. That is plain stupid.

bloggless on November 30, 2009 at 12:31 PM

I don’t think this is any more damaging to Huck’s career than the shooting of Alexander Hamilton was to Aaron Burr’s.

In fact, I think Burr and Huckabee are largely of the same character.

Kasper Hauser on November 30, 2009 at 12:31 PM

hanzblinx on November 30, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Have you not seen her polls? And her book sales?

If that’s “tainted” serve me up some of that.

HondaV65 on November 30, 2009 at 12:31 PM

Contrasts in pardons….Pardons…Huckabee = http://bit.ly/8oVLpC…Palin = http://bit.ly/4A1Qlk….but then Palin is just an ignorant airhead who doesn’t even have creases in her pants…

callingallcomets on November 30, 2009 at 12:32 PM

At this point, who’s left in the Republican party who was six months ago was considered a serious contender who isn’t already fully under the bus?

ObamaCare Romney?
Quitter Palin?
Boy Governor Jindhal
Serial philanderer Newt?
Gay-luvin (serial philanderer) America’s Mayor?

Who am I missing?

Could be an interesting line-up.

Bleeds Blue on November 30, 2009 at 12:32 PM

Second, before Huckabee can get into a general election, he has to win a nomination — and he has to convince conservatives to back him. That will be very difficult if Huckabee is seen as weak on crime. A general election electorate might be more sympathetic to a generous use of executive clemency, but Huckabee won’t find that in a Republican primary, where law and order is one of the central tenets of the GOP.

Oh? The “Willie Horton” ads make you think that?

CC

CapedConservative on November 30, 2009 at 12:33 PM

We don’t even know if this guy was the killer.

Geeez…propaganda machines are alive in well in the good ol’ USofA.

bridgetown on November 30, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Adios fatty.

We are better off without him mucking up the 2012 primaries.

This is the idiot that gave McCain the nominee.

People have hung for less.

omnipotent on November 30, 2009 at 12:34 PM

What, was Huckabee seriously considering running again?

4shoes on November 30, 2009 at 12:34 PM

I don’t think anyone is making the victims a side note. That is plain stupid.

bloggless on November 30, 2009 at 12:31 PM

Where was the post discussing the murder itself, without the political nonsense added in? Did I miss it?

Narutoboy on November 30, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Sorry…try again

Contrasts in pardons….Pardons…Huckabee = http://bit.ly/8oVLpC Palin = http://bit.ly/4A1Qlk but then Palin is just an ignorant airhead who doesn’t even have creases in her pants…

callingallcomets on November 30, 2009 at 12:34 PM

I doubt this changes anything. Huck’s supporters aren’t necessarily put off by his well known disposition to executive clemency, and will not blame him for the shootings of 4 cops.

I suspect Huck’s 2012 status is unchanged: he will run; he will not and cannot win; but he can and will peel off enough religious conservative votes to affect the outcome of the primaries. Last time he hurt Mitt (for whom I shed no tears); and this time he could well take votes from Palin.

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gekkobear on November 30, 2009 at 12:34 PM

I’m no Huck fan but don’t use this horrible murderous act to attack Huckabee. Huck was wrong to let this go but don’t use this as a weapon against him, when there are more important issues with this murderous act.

lavell12 on November 30, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Why ? This is a tragic and telling example why he’s not qualified.

the_nile on November 30, 2009 at 12:35 PM

what was the reasoning behind this clemency?

Daveyardbird on November 30, 2009 at 12:35 PM

This ends (as it rightly should) Huckabee’s political life. Period.

AntonK on November 30, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Huckaloser…

Palin vs. Pawlenty in 2012.

WordsMatter on November 30, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Huckabee being finished happened before this. With Huck and Romney finished I think Jindal may chance his mind.

lavell12 on November 30, 2009 at 12:36 PM

‘Compassionate conservatism’ strikes again.

Strikes out again, I guess one might as well say.

JEM on November 30, 2009 at 12:37 PM

In washington we’ve lost 4 good cops. If Clemmons is the killer, this could have been avoided if Huck exercised better judgment. Huck should avoid leadership and start working on a program for enhancing the clemency vetting programs used by governors across the nation.

I used to find Huck annoying. I now find him to be a festering boil. The cops hadn’t been dead 24 hours before Huck published that “I wasn’t the only one who got it wrong” press statement. What a scumbag.

StartinOver on November 30, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Huckabee showed his true character when he told the press how despicable it was for republicans to speak ill of Obama. I hope this puts the final nail into his coffin

theaddora on November 30, 2009 at 12:37 PM

What Huckabee bid? He basically said he wasn’t running BEFORE this happened, now he is finished politically forever. He is Michael Dukakis with a Bible.

echosyst on November 30, 2009 at 12:37 PM

At this point, who’s left in the Republican party who was six months ago was considered a serious contender who isn’t already fully under the bus?

ObamaCare Romney?
Quitter Palin?
Boy Governor Jindhal
Serial philanderer Newt?
Gay-luvin (serial philanderer) America’s Mayor?

Who am I missing?

Could be an interesting line-up.

Bleeds Blue on November 30, 2009 at 12:32 PM

Larry Sinclair loving Illinois Senator.

WordsMatter on November 30, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Of course Huckabee owns at least some of the responsibility for releasing this monster on society – although notice that there has as yet been no mention of Christine Gregoire yet by the AP.

Nevertheless, I expect any criticism of Huckabee by the right will be characterized as racism before the Christmas season is over.

Any bets?

warbaby on November 30, 2009 at 12:37 PM

ConservativePartyNow on November 30, 2009 at 12:27 PM

I was a Fredhead before he even made up his mind to finally run, but I just don’t see it that way.

Huck probably pulled a good chunk of Fred’s early support, but Fred wasn’t getting traction.

As to the question in the headline:

Certainly, Captain Obvious!

cs89 on November 30, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Yes, it will damage him. if he’s smart he will abandon all ideas to run for President again in 2012. Even much, if not most, of the base will not vote for him.

jeanie on November 30, 2009 at 12:39 PM

I’ve worked in prison ministries in the U.S. and South America, and I’ve seen men much worse than Maurice Clemons experience God’s forgiveness for their sins.

God’s forgiveness, not man’s.

Yes, we as Christians need to forgive one another, but we also need to obey the laws of the land, and God’s forgiveness does not extend to the courtroom. I wouldn’t want my pastor handing out speeding tickets, and I don’t want a judge counseling me about adultery. To quote someone infinitely wiser than any of us, give to Caesar that which is Caesar’s, and give to God that which is God’s.

ExUrbanKevin on November 30, 2009 at 12:39 PM

The Huckster is toast as it should be…. he’s not a conservative.

roux on November 30, 2009 at 12:40 PM

I can think of a couple … Mitch Daniels from ind.
Haley Barbour …Bill Owens …John Thune …

Hows that for starters ….

jqusnr on November 30, 2009 at 12:30 PM

Sure, they might also run in 2012, but here’s my take:

Daniels: Bush appointed Budget Chief; not that impressed with the job he did managing the Bush budgets.

Barbour: K-Street Lobbyist for years, typical DC insider.

Owens: Great governor, but the concensus here in Colorado is that his past marital problems is a real hurdle for a WH run.

Thune: RINO Swine David Brooks has a man-crush on him. Sorry, that’s a red flag if I ever saw one.

Norwegian on November 30, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Na na na na,
na na na na,
Hey Hey!!!
Get the f goin’ you squish!!!

LtE126 on November 30, 2009 at 12:41 PM

Huckabee is a freak and a weirdo and this proves it. He obviously thinks rape is no big deal and was eager to inflict his personal opinion on the masses.
-
His fondness for forgiving monsters probably stems from forgiving his son (18 at the time) for what he did to that poor poor dog at boy scout camp.

Simona on November 30, 2009 at 12:41 PM

I was finished when Huck ran those dirty and cheap ads agaist Romney.

lavell12 on November 30, 2009 at 12:41 PM

Duh?

DarkCurrent on November 30, 2009 at 12:42 PM

People are making it all about him and then discussing the killer and the victims as a side note. I mean, read Malkin’s take on this. Despicable.

Narutoboy on November 30, 2009 at 12:30 PM

On the contrary, the killer and the victims are the exact reason it’s being discussed. This is real 2+2 stuff here.

LibTired on November 30, 2009 at 12:42 PM

I honestly can’t figure out his reasoning behind his commutations.

He sure picked some doozies to let loose.

AnninCA on November 30, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Other than Palin, Huck, Romeny, and Pawlenty here is a list of names I see as potential candidates.

Daniels
Owens
Thurn
Barber
Jindal
Pence
Petrus

lavell12 on November 30, 2009 at 12:44 PM

On the contrary, the killer and the victims are the exact reason it’s being discussed. This is real 2+2 stuff here.

LibTired on November 30, 2009 at 12:42 PM

And this makes sense to you? This is no different than politicians salivating at the chance to blame guns when a crime with a gun happens.

Narutoboy on November 30, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Cindy Munford on November 30, 2009 at 12:28 PM

Sorry, I had heard on TV that his sentence was ninety years but it was 35 and he served about ten before Gov. Huckabee acted.
As to those complaining about commenters concentrating on Gov. Huckabee’s role in this….. it is the subject of the thread. If HotAir is going to talk about the officers or the murders themselves, that’s what we would be asked to comment on

Cindy Munford on November 30, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Norwegian on November 30, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Mike Pence. But then again I thought Mark Sanford was the bee’s knee’s and we all know how that went.

Knucklehead on November 30, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Stick with you’re TV show Huck, I won’t vote for you.

Dollayo on November 30, 2009 at 12:46 PM

He sure picked some doozies to let loose.

AnninCA on November 30, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Amen! I would love to hear an explanation.

Cindy Munford on November 30, 2009 at 12:46 PM

I think Huck is a bit too much the turn your cheek christian. Some folks are beyond saving and acts of kindness to them only gets people injured and killed.

faol on November 30, 2009 at 12:46 PM

I would think this would hurt any real chance of running. Two major crimes committed after he commuted the sentences really calls into question his judgment.

I’d love to hear the real story. I speculated that this guy was mentally ill, and Arkansas prisons don’t quite have the capability of handling it properly. But that was a wild guess here.

AnninCA on November 30, 2009 at 12:47 PM

This wasn’t a law-abiding citizen who made one bad mistake, there was a pattern that should have raised concerns…and I mean Clemmens and the Huckster.

Laura in Maryland on November 30, 2009 at 12:47 PM

Well Huck, if Palin brings up Clemmons, you can always counter her with the bus thing.

LibTired on November 30, 2009 at 12:47 PM

MikeA on November 30, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Most of those have been answered on the radio this morning and it doesn’t look good for Huckabee.

Minor note, AK is postal code for AlasKa, ARkansas is AR.

cozmo on November 30, 2009 at 12:47 PM

gekkobear on November 30, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Ha Ha Big Smile!

+1

LincolntheHun on November 30, 2009 at 12:48 PM

See ya later Huckabigot!!!

csdeven on November 30, 2009 at 12:48 PM

Amen! I would love to hear an explanation.

Cindy Munford on November 30, 2009 at 12:46 PM

Via Ace:

Huckabee pardoned Clemmons because they had a mutual acquaintance, he labored at the governor’s mansion under a prisoner work program, or a minister intervened on his behalf. No, I don’t actually know why he did it and Huckabee was notorious for refusing to give reasons for his pardons. These characteristics are what many of Huckabee’s pardons had in common.

LibTired on November 30, 2009 at 12:48 PM

Interesting fact. The sheriff in the Arkansas county where Dumond committed his first rape had a couple of ol’ boys catch up with Wayne and perform a Bob Barker-esque procedure on him. He kept the results in a jar on his desk.

kingsjester on November 30, 2009 at 12:49 PM

what was the reasoning behind this clemency?

Daveyardbird on November 30, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Apparently Huckabee consulted his moral compass and it pointed out that Huck and and Huck alone was the proper judge of who is capable of redemption.

RushBaby on November 30, 2009 at 12:49 PM

Knucklehead on November 30, 2009 at 12:45 PM

I thought Mark Sanford was the bee’s knee’s

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Dude
” the bee’s knee’s” the roaring 20′s are over. 23 skidoo!

LincolntheHun on November 30, 2009 at 12:50 PM

There IS no Huckabee bid as far as I’m concerned.

I will not vote for him. Period.

tickleddragon on November 30, 2009 at 12:50 PM

A general election electorate might be more sympathetic to a generous use of executive clemency, but Huckabee won’t find that in a Republican primary, where law and order is one of the central tenets of the GOP.

Believe that if it makes you feel better, Ed. The reality is that a significant number of Republican primary voters (and numerous commenters on this site) had absolutely no problem with Huck’s faith-inspired meddling into the Dumond case. Some of these same so-called conservatives defend him still. Disgusting.

Infidoll on November 30, 2009 at 12:51 PM

People are making it all about him and then discussing the killer and the victims as a side note. I mean, read Malkin’s take on this. Despicable.

Narutoboy on November 30, 2009 at 12:30 PM

I haven’t seen this much spinning outside a Huffpo piece in a long time.

MarkTheGreat on November 30, 2009 at 12:52 PM

LibTired on November 30, 2009 at 12:48 PM

I’m obviously a huge witch because this information doesn’t seem work for me.

Cindy Munford on November 30, 2009 at 12:52 PM

Strike 1: knocks Palin by implication
Strike 2: releases violent criminals because he’s nice
Strike 3: see strikes 1 and 2

notagool on November 30, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Is his political career finished?

“Yes”

joshlbetts on November 30, 2009 at 12:53 PM

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