WaPo: ObamaCare doesn’t do anything to reform deficits

posted at 2:20 pm on November 30, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

And that’s a generous analysis by Lori Montgomery.  It assumes that everything Harry Reid says about the Senate bill is both true and will come to pass, and it also blithely ignores the “doctor fix” that eliminates cuts in federal reimbursements for Medicare.  And even with the Washington Post dancing on fairy wings in Fantasy World, Montgomery still comes to the shocking conclusion that spending an extra $200 billion a year won’t help the deficit much:

But they see scant evidence that those ideas would quickly bear fruit, and in the short term they fear that the initiative would leave Washington struggling to pay for a new $200 billion-a-year health program even as existing programs require vast infusions of cash to care for the aging baby-boom generation.

Those concerns were magnified by the release of Reid’s bill, which the Senate will begin debating on Monday. Democrats were thrilled when the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office reported that the package was fully “paid for” — meaning lawmakers had identified spending cuts and tax increases sufficient to cover the cost of expanding coverage to 30 million additional people.

But the measure would not deliver on Democrats’ most ambitious claims, the CBO found. While the package would not worsen the nation’s record deficits, it would not significantly improve them, either now or in the future. Reid’s bill would shave less than 2 percent from deficits projected to top $9 trillion over the next decade. And it would make only “small reductions” after that, the CBO said — about 0.25 percent of GDP — to deficits projected to balloon to roughly 14 percent of the economy by 2035.

“The hope that health-care reform would take care of our budget problem has evaporated,” said Isabel Sawhill, a fiscal expert at the Brookings Institution.

Many budget experts also worry that lawmakers may not have the stomach to keep the new taxes and spending cuts intended to pay for the package. Republicans are already planning to offer an amendment to strike more than $400 billion in proposed Medicare cuts from the package, a move that would blow a huge hole in financing for the bill.

In merging bills drafted in committee, meanwhile, Reid significantly watered down two of the most important cost-containment provisions: a tax on high-cost health insurance policies that was opposed by labor unions and an independent commission that had been designed to automatically and methodically restrain Medicare spending. Senior White House officials have called those provisions critical, but House leaders are adamantly opposed to both.

Montgomery never mentions the “doctor fix” at all in her analysis.  The House passed the bill as part of its rules package for the Pelosi version of ObamaCare, and it would increase federal spending over $200 billion in the first ten years by canceling cuts to reimbursement rates.  Reid’s bill (as well as the version passed by the House) rely on those cuts to meet their spending goals for ObamaCare.  Yet without that rescission of the cuts, the AMA would have opposed ObamaCare.  Reid himself tried sneaking it through the Senate, but got caught in a cloture vote and will have to find another way to pass it.

The article mentions that the CBO has bolstered Reid’s claim of deficit neutrality.  It fails to mention that the CBO re-scored the Pelosi plan after its passage, this time with the “doctor fix,” and determined that it would increase deficit spending by $89 billion in the first decade and by more than $200 billion in the second decade.   When discussing deficits and new entitlement spending, that piece of information may have been helpful to the Post’s readers.

Meanwhile, the AP has a more cogent analysis of the p0litics of Reid’s bill in the Senate:

Senate Democrats face deep divisions within their ranks as they begin debate Monday on President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul, with the recent all-hands-on-deck coalition frayed over abortion and the option of government-run insurance.

While majority Democrats will need 60 votes to finish, some in the party say they’ll jump ship from the bill without tighter restrictions on abortion coverage. Others say they’ll go unless a government plan to compete with private insurance companies gets tossed. Such concessions would enrage liberals, the party’s heart and soul. …

Of the many issues senators have to weigh, abortion funding and the option of a government insurance plan promise to be the most difficult.

On abortion, no compromise seems possible. On the public plan, a deal may yet be had.

Reid still wants to jam this through the Senate in the next three weeks, but that seems rather ambitious for a bill that barely got enough votes to start debate.  The diametrically opposed positions within the Democratic caucus on both abortion and the public option spells trouble for Reid to get a cloture vote at the end.  Keep telling your Senators that you oppose this bill, and add your voices to the wealth of polling that shows that American voters are highly skeptical of the approach taken by Democrats.


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unhinged.

rob verdi on May 23, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Chrissy and MSNBC continue to beclown themselves.

rbj on May 23, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Speaking of other peoples views. I think it time the FBI agents who targeted Tea Party groups because of their IRS applications are identified and sworn in to testify. Oh. And have them bring their files for review.

pat on May 23, 2013 at 9:24 PM

The nerve of the morning joe show!

VegasRick on May 23, 2013 at 9:26 PM

MSNBC: The Place for Politics Pissants.

can_con on May 23, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Clearly the Left are full melt-down.

Tater Salad on May 23, 2013 at 9:28 PM

I certainly won’t pretend that I harbor any fondness or intellectual deference for DNC Chairman Debbie Wasserman Schultz (ahem),

Sounds like someone is jealous of the hairdo.

RickB on May 23, 2013 at 9:28 PM

I actualy agree with Matthews, regarding Rinsed Prenis

The guy should not be on TV, especially combat TV. If he took debate in college, his teachers should be fired.

Hate Steele all you want, but he would pwn Morning Joe over these scandals.

budfox on May 23, 2013 at 9:28 PM

Whatever, Tingles.

John the Libertarian on May 23, 2013 at 9:29 PM

He’s just peeved because Morning Joe has a policy against cocktails in the greenroom.

forest on May 23, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Screw ups are not need for penitential action, simply correction. But when Reince Priebus has the nerve to cross the line into giving us moral leadership, we all must laugh – laugh heartily . . . This is what a leader of a political party talks like – a thirteen-year-old.

Nothing quite like epic pretension nosing-up silly childishness.

Axe on May 23, 2013 at 9:29 PM

I saw Reince on Morning Joe and he was basically ganged up on by the idiot John Heilman and Mika Boobinski (as much as that bubblehead can gang up on you), Schmoe wasn’t there. They of course treated him like something you’d scrape off your shoe which makes me wonder why he was there at all. Except to have a little fun watching them squirm about the IRS thing. Which they did.

(You can tell Heilman is on the verge of tears when his lips disappear into his mouth.)

Marcus on May 23, 2013 at 9:32 PM

People, we have to remember Chrissy is not talking to us, just his snot-nosed, mouth-breathing, zombie-commie audience. They expect this lack of objectivity and shame from him.

I wish HA would stop giving him views on his videos.

goflyers on May 23, 2013 at 9:33 PM

This is what a leader of a political party talks like – a thirteen-year-old.

Pi$$y is all wee-weed up!!

burrata on May 23, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Hate Steele all you want, but he would pwn Morning Joe over these scandals.

budfox on May 23, 2013 at 9:28 PM

Are you serious? Most of the time Steele is agreeing with them, which is why he was hired by MSNBC to begin with.

Marcus on May 23, 2013 at 9:34 PM

What point was that fat, drunken imbecile trying to make with that incoherent word-salad?

Walter Sobchak on May 23, 2013 at 9:40 PM

Chris who?

Midas on May 23, 2013 at 9:44 PM

What point was that fat, drunken imbecile trying to make with that incoherent word-salad?

Walter Sobchak on May 23, 2013 at 9:40 PM

Hillary was on there? I missed it.

Midas on May 23, 2013 at 9:45 PM

“open to all people’s points of view on that show.”

LMAO- hernia.
CMS morning reports tell a diff story.
Maybe he meant all the kooky,race card pulling loons and liars. A variety of diff loco views.

bazil9 on May 23, 2013 at 9:47 PM

The man who does his best boyish grin whilst telling the entire world that listening to Barack Hussein Obama speak gives him a thrill up his leg – accusing someone of talking like a 13 year old.

Fer Crissakes. Don’t these people listen to themselves? I feel like I live in a world of f***ing morons.

Leftists are not legitimate human beings. They are clumps of cells, nothing more.

IronDioPriest on May 23, 2013 at 9:47 PM

Is MSNBC a non-profit org? Because I can’t imagine that Matthews brings in much revenue. Whatever his salary, its more than he is worth. They must keep him on out of pity, knowing if they let him go he would be in the same boat as Olberman. If not MSNBC, who would work with him?

scalleywag on May 23, 2013 at 9:49 PM

What point was that fat, drunken imbecile trying to make with that incoherent word-salad?

Walter Sobchak on May 23, 2013 at 9:40 PM

That could also describe Pelosi’s earlier remarks!

scalleywag on May 23, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Fer Crissakes. Don’t these people listen to themselves? I feel like I live in a world of f***ing morons.

IronDioPriest on May 23, 2013 at 9:47 PM

Thanks to the left – its politicians, educators, etc – yeah, pretty much.

Midas on May 23, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Don’t these people listen to themselves? I feel like I live in a world of f***ing morons.

IronDioPriest on May 23, 2013 at 9:47 PM

We do.

bazil9 on May 23, 2013 at 9:54 PM

Matthews shows out. In all fairness, of course.

Liam on May 23, 2013 at 9:56 PM

Is cmsinaz around?

Liam on May 23, 2013 at 9:56 PM

How can anybody watch this clown and still take themselves seriously?

Jackalope on May 23, 2013 at 9:56 PM

@Liam..I know lol
1st thing I thought of.

bazil9 on May 23, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Screw ups are not need for penitential action, simply correction. But when Reince Priebus has the nerve to cross the line into giving us moral leadership, we all must laugh – laugh heartily. The administration’s bungling of the IRS issue has opened, of course, the door for GOP featherweights like RNC chair Reince Priebus to launch some serious accusations. They’re not serious coming from him. They sound serious. Priebus tweeted – which is a perfect means of communication for him yesterday – “Great show with Sean Hannity tonight. It’s lawlessness and guerilla warfare and Obama is in the middle of it.” This is what a leader of a political party talks like – a thirteen-year-old. This morning he doubled down on those accusations. Here he was on Morning Joe. I don’t know why they put him on. I guess they’re open to all people’s points of view on that show.

I have had conversations like this with people who are falling down drunk.

NotCoach on May 23, 2013 at 10:01 PM

Chrissy Matthews manages to become the Heidi Fleiss and the Mayflower Madam of the DNC simultaneously.

viking01 on May 23, 2013 at 10:04 PM

Matthews is weakling milquetoast looking for a place to happen.

I never thought I would say this, but…

Our trolls are better.

Liam on May 23, 2013 at 10:06 PM

on a side note i was on http://www.nteu.org, which the treasury’s union web site, you will find a link encouraging their members to send a letter to their congress man opposing hr1780.

So the same agency that is suppose to implement this law feels that its not good enough for its employees. In the computer programming world there is a saying that goes “you need to eat your own shit to know how bad your program is” meaning you use your own program to experience the faults. I think it would be appropriate for nteu to eat their own shit.

phatfawzi on May 23, 2013 at 10:13 PM

I don’t watch his show.

Does Tingles remind his viewers to wipe the spittle from their mouths?

itsspideyman on May 23, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Here is Erika’s confusion…

“…but if you’re at least trying to create some semblance of balance and…”

Um, it’s MSNBC. That is not now and never HAS been a goal. They don’t want truth and balacne. They want anti-American, left-wing propaganda.

Warner Todd Huston on May 23, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Hey Chris,

You’re in no position to talk about anyone else’s relevance or legitimacy when you basically said it was your job to carry water for President Obama.

You’re a fanboy in the worst way, and no one should take you seriously. You should resign in disgrace.

BKennedy on May 23, 2013 at 10:15 PM

DNC Chairman Debbie Wasserman Schultz

I believe the politically correct way to phrase this is:

DNC Chairthing Debbie Wasserman Schultz

arik1969 on May 23, 2013 at 10:15 PM

You’ll have to pardon Tingles. He’s not gotten a lot of good news lately.

GarandFan on May 23, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Drat,I missed his show again.This must be 6 or 7 years in a row.I have to get myself some kind of reminder.

docflash on May 23, 2013 at 10:23 PM

Turd.

S. D. on May 23, 2013 at 10:26 PM

This is what a leader of a political party talks like – a thirteen-year-old.

It’s the “profit AND earnings ratios” that do it!!

There isn’t even any 10 year old American who would use “AND” to describe division, whether he had a tingle running up his leg or not.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 23, 2013 at 10:37 PM

Sounds like someone is jealous of the hairdo.

RickB on May 23, 2013 at 9:28 PM

I am making an exception to my rule to never belittle a person’s looks or religion. Critique is one thing, cruelty is another.

Anyway, I think all Dems should get a DWS hairdo.

Then our POTUS could avoid looking like Larry of the three stooges when teasing his spouse at correspondent’s dinners.

And I looked for photos of Ms. Erika Johnson above and she has nice hair. I don’t know if she is also in a bikini in posted pics so I shall stop there.

IlikedAUH2O on May 23, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Honestly, I can’t understand how anyone takes any of these clowns seriously… On BOTH sides. Lets be real here for a moment… Republicans have some koolaid drinkers on their side as well. And they’re equally loony.

It would be nice if these guys were less popular. They’re not helpful.

Karmashock on May 24, 2013 at 2:36 AM

Let me guess, it’s only the pundits that make up this loathsome Matthews viewership.

sadatoni on May 24, 2013 at 7:24 AM

Is MSNBC a non-profit org?

scalleywag on May 23, 2013 at 9:49 PM

Well…technically, I think they are. But not intentionally. It’s a byproduct of sucking.

bigmacdaddy on May 24, 2013 at 7:24 AM

They BARELY allow contrary opinions … and when they do, they shout them down.

djl130 on May 24, 2013 at 7:38 AM

And Preezy Obysmal is a Muslim apologist who would like to limit the influence of the Internet: http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-increase-in-domestic-terrorism-fueled-by-internet/article/2530391

onlineanalyst on May 24, 2013 at 9:05 AM

Dog whistle.

Good Lt on May 24, 2013 at 9:14 AM

“…the nerve to cross the line into giving us moral leadership, we all must laugh – laugh heartily.”

But why are we talking about Howard Dean?

princetrumpet on May 24, 2013 at 9:16 AM

When I want your opinion, I’ll give it to you.

skeedro on May 24, 2013 at 10:02 AM

I think what he said was great, honest and to the point…he should be commended for being so honest about how close minded he is.

This is why whatever few viewers they have, they have…because they do not want to hear the other side, and it’s important we are reminded constantly that the left is pretty much that way.

They do not tolerate other ideas or views, and Chris should be held as a perfect example of that close minded mentality that is so destructive.

Good for him…

right2bright on May 24, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Another Chrissy Hissy fit

PJ Emeritus on May 24, 2013 at 10:13 AM

C’MON PEOPLE!!

Have you no compassion for someone who is DEEPLY wounded by all the scandal that his god is having to endure? Especially since all the scandals are self inflicted wounds? Can we not all sense that Crissy is just wrought with fear and angst that his god will be damaged and once a god bleeds, is he then still a god or is he human and corruptable as Crissy undeniably is?

Can we not understand that Crissy MUST, no, is OBLIGATED to leap to the defense and try and shield with his massive influence… ok, leap to the defense with is mediocre influence….ok, ok, hop out there and flail away in an attempt at defense of his mangod?

I am sorely dissappointed in my fellow hotgassious bretheren commenters who have outright enjoyed skewering Chrissy Mathews.

Someone of Chrissy Mathews stature should be treated… ok..ok, DESERVES everything he’s getting from us, but we should remain true to our humanity and not undely persecute Chri….ok, ok, We should just not overly enjoy Chrissy’s… ok, ok…. We should maybe not broadast our shadenfreude….

Oh EFF him, I hope he chokes on his fear.

44Magnum on May 24, 2013 at 10:24 AM

Mathews is so busy servicing Obama it is impossible for him to service anyone else.

Charm on May 24, 2013 at 10:26 AM

One cannot help but wonder if lil crissy has always been as loony and incoherent as this…or if it’s just since he became a professional alcoholic.

Solaratov on May 24, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Speaking of tweeting like a 13-year-old, what was Prissy Chrissie’s reaction to “Its. The. Law.”?

Maddie on May 24, 2013 at 11:55 AM