Dem congressman: Hey, maybe Bush let Osama get away on purpose to justify the Iraq war

posted at 9:02 pm on November 30, 2009 by Allahpundit

No no, just kidding: There’s no “maybe” here. On the contrary, he blithely asserts that “there’s no question about it,” which precipitates the first and likely last defense of George W. Bush ever mounted by David Shuster. But then, this is the same guy who once claimed that Karl Rove planted the phony memos that destroyed Dan Rather’s career, who called for nationalizing America’s oil industry, and who thought it’d be super-keen to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine. Chock full o’ good ideas, he is; it was only a matter of time before he stumbled across this one.

As for the merits of his argument, let me see if I have this straight. Bush deliberately refused to take out Bin Laden at Tora Bora when he had the chance, even though (a) it would have been an enormous boost for him politically, arguably making his goal of invading Iraq even easier to achieve; (b) Bin Laden’s lingering presence in the tribal areas gave Democrats an effective talking point against Iraq for years afterward about “taking our eye off the ball” and “fighting the real war” (which, at the moment, they no longer want to fight); (c) Bush himself repeatedly emphasized, as one of his own core talking points, that the war on terror is much bigger than one archterrorist and can only be won by democratizing and liberalizing the Middle East. Listening to Hinchey here, you’d think it was Osama, not WMD, that Dubya had claimed Saddam was hiding. But whatever. This isn’t a serious argument being made by Hinchey, merely a little reminder ahead of Obama’s speech tomorrow night that Bush is the devil and responsible for every last problem the left has to deal with, etc etc etc. Take it in the dumb, thoughtless spirit in which it’s offered.


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a perfect netroots congressman

rob verdi on November 30, 2009 at 10:32 PM

Another senile Democrat ready for the trash bin.

GarandFan on November 30, 2009 at 10:37 PM

Obama’s speech tomorrow night

Good Lord, another one??

ddrintn on November 30, 2009 at 10:49 PM

I love that the liberals are rehashing this fight to get Bush’s name bouncing around again in hopes of unifying the left behind Obama and take the focus off of his ineptness.

Kerry putting this report out is laughable considering he supported the strategy in Afghanistan and Tora Bora before he was against it:

(via just one minute)

Tora Bora – No Mas

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2004/10/tora_bora_no_ma.html

Gen. Tommy Franks defends the plan at Tora Bora from Kerry’s second-guessing. Kerry has been confusing hindisght with insight, and second-guessing the military rather than George Bush, as I noted at length here.
The key quotes are in the UPDATE to the old post – Kerry was for the Tora Bora plan before he was against it. Imagine my surprise.

CALLER: Hello. Yes, I would like to ask the panel why they don’t use napalm or flamethrowers on those tunnels and caves up there in Afghanistan?

KING: Senator Kerry?


KERRY: Well, I think it depends on where you are tactically. They may well be doing that at some point in time. But for the moment, what we are doing, I think, is having its impact and it is the best way to protect our troops and sort of minimalize the proximity, if you will. I think we have been doing this pretty effectively and we should continue to do it that way.

and this gem….

(via National Review)

Tora Bora Bull
Don’t buy what Kedwards is selling.

http://www.nationalreview.com/script/printpage.p?ref=/lowry/lowry200410080840.asp

At the time, Kerry was all for it. He told an interviewer in late 2001 that the United States could avoid making Afghanistan into another Vietnam, “as long as we make smart decisions, and we don’t go in and repeat what the British or the Russians tried to do. And I don’t think we will; I think we’re on a different footing.” In mid-December 2001, right in the middle of the battle of Tora Bora, he supported the administration’s strategy: “I think we have been smart. I think the administration leadership has done it well, and we are right on track.” Kerry only cautioned against using too much force: “I am not for a prolonged bombing campaign,” he said.

So I guess President Clinton and Senator Kerry are in on the big ol’ conspiracy also.

Kerry and his democratic friends are beyond hilarious trying to make this an issue when they are up to their neck in support for the strategy in Afghanistan during Tora Bora and had many chances to take out Osama themselves only to shrink away like little cowards because they did not want to get their hands dirty.

Baxter Greene on November 30, 2009 at 10:50 PM

^ Oh yeah, the Afghanistan thing.

ddrintn on November 30, 2009 at 10:50 PM

Dem congressman: Hey, maybe Bush let Osama get away on purpose to justify the Iraq war

Ahhhhhhhhhhh it all makes sense now!
Why didn’t I see this before!
Its soooooooooo obvious!

1998 President Clinton signs the “Iraq liberation Act” Goal: regime change in Iraq.

1998 President Clinton fires off a bunch of Tomahawk Cruise missiles allegedly in an attempt to “get Bin Laden” in Afghanistan and an AQ/Iraq aspirin factory in the Sudan

1998 thru 2000 Clinton admin makes repeatable claims AQ and Saddam are working together.

The plot thickens.

2000 the USS Cole is attacked, too late for Clinton to use as an excuse to go after Saddam. I’m sure Clinton wanted the attack on the USS The Sullivans (DDG-68) successful.

Bush takes office, 911 happens, finally we go after OBL in Afghanistan. Just as we are about to capture OBL, Clinton reminds Bush the REAL goal is regime change in Iraq.

Bush lets OBL go and the rest is history!

Brilliant!

Guess politicians CAN walk and chew gum at the same time!

Sar/off

“In fact, one thing that I have noticed . . . is that all of these conspiracy theories depend on the perpetrators being endlessly clever. I think you’ll find the facts also work if you assume everyone is endlessly stupid.”

Author Unknown

DSchoen on November 30, 2009 at 10:50 PM

This Whack job looks like Jim Traficant – same hairdoo – sounds like him too. Maybe they are cousins

iam7545 on November 30, 2009 at 11:11 PM

OT: Has anyone seen this? Read the comments below that alledge it was a dry run on AirTran 297 a few days ago.

http://www.khou.com/news/Phone-call-delays-Houston-bound-AirTran-flight-70369417.html

boomer on November 30, 2009 at 9:47 PM
Is there anything to back this up other than an anonymous posting online?

aikidoka on November 30, 2009 at 10:02 PM

I guess there is no cell phone video either because they had been turned off by everybody on the plane at that time !
Come to think of it
this seems to be really well planned !

macncheez on November 30, 2009 at 11:11 PM

We`re so close to having actual horses serving in congress. Those who know the history of the Roman Empire, I hope they say I`m making a correct allusion.

ThePrez on November 30, 2009 at 10:05 PM

They certainly have/are complete back ends.

BL@KBIRD on November 30, 2009 at 11:22 PM

Hey, maybe Obama is having the terrorist trial in New York so that there will be an attack and he can win the support Bush got!

A deliberate provocation…

Dhuka on November 30, 2009 at 11:24 PM

Interesting.

So when Clinton was offered Osama a half dozen times in the 90s, did he turn down the offers to justify the Iraq war also?

18-1 on November 30, 2009 at 11:27 PM

Interesting.

So when Clinton was offered Osama a half dozen times in the 90s, did he turn down the offers to justify the Iraq war also?

18-1 on November 30, 2009 at 11:27 PM

Nope
With Clintons, its always about the money
the sleazier the better

macncheez on December 1, 2009 at 12:09 AM

canopfor on November 30, 2009 at 10:18 PM
You don’t even know the half! LOL

boomer on November 30, 2009 at 10:31 PM

boomer: Do tell,hehehe!!!:)

canopfor on December 1, 2009 at 12:10 AM

I didn’t even waste my time watching this crap.

Dopenstrange on December 1, 2009 at 12:32 AM

Maybe monkeys fly out of Hinchey’s butt…no they definitely do!

nelsonknows on December 1, 2009 at 12:38 AM

Maybe Democrats promote poverty and ignorance in the inner city to justify social spending. Maybe?

29Victor on December 1, 2009 at 12:40 AM

18-1 on November 30, 2009 at 11:27 PM

Well duhhhhhhhhhh

He had to get the Iraq Liberation Act first!

DSchoen on December 1, 2009 at 12:41 AM

A “new” congressional report spearheaded by John Kerry is immediately used as a springboard for other congressional Democrats (who are really only mad about the litigation opportunities their trial lawyer constituents have missed out on in the interim) to accuse George W. Bush of intentionally letting Osama get away?

WOW WHO SAW THAT COMING?????

Cylor on December 1, 2009 at 2:10 AM

Treasonous acts are carried out in the open by Democratic members of the Senate and Congress on a regular basis. The aid the late Senator Kennedy offered to our Russian enemy during the cold war to counter the work done by Reagan sprngs to mind. He undertakes this traitorous act and no mention of it is made.
It is no wonder that those on the left imagine treasonous acts on the part of Conservatives. They assume that all are engaged in the same slimy acts that they are.

Of course…I get the impression that this guy is just a whack job. It must be fun to say such insane things and watch people record it, write it down and later quote it as if it meant something.

Army Brat on December 1, 2009 at 2:23 AM

Idiot!

rplat on December 1, 2009 at 5:27 AM

The nutsacks will re-elect this bonehead based on that statement alone.

crazy texas on December 1, 2009 at 5:54 AM

anyone seen this? Read the comments below that alledge it was a dry run on AirTran 297 a few days ago.

http://www.khou.com/news/Phone-call-delays-Houston-bound-AirTran-flight-70369417.html

Sounds like BS to me. Too many people on the plane. If that posting were true we would have a hundred people telling the story.

crazy texas on December 1, 2009 at 6:11 AM

If Bush was to blame for the Tora Bora supposed failure, then Clinton should be even more to blame for his failure to give the “shoot” order when the snipers had him in their sights during his day of golf. If he had ordered “shoot” instead of “fore”, we probably wouldn’t have had 9-11!

hopefloats on December 1, 2009 at 6:49 AM

Seems to me President Bubba Clinton had a clear shot at OBL and blinked. Ergo.. there goes the twin towers.

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donabernathy on December 1, 2009 at 7:12 AM

Seems to me President Bubba Clinton had a clear shot at OBL and blinked. Ergo.. there goes the twin towers.

donabernathy on December 1, 2009 at 7:12 AM

Thanks for the reminder.
I lack the proper words to describe my feelings for the ObamaDemocrats right now. Why any Republican would want to work with these individuals, perps really, is beyond me. Yeah, they are all perps. Democrat perps every stinking one of them.
What do perps always say? “I didn’t do it. That other guy did it! I don’t know nothing bout that money in the freezer! I don’t know nothin bout those taxes not being paid! I don’t know nothin bout how the economy got that way! I don’t know nothin ceptI know Bush done did it!”
They break into our homes every day, steal our money, our kids, our property and now they want to seize our lives and call it health care! They ought to be arrested and thrown in jail for theft of liberty!
Freakin Perps!

JellyToast on December 1, 2009 at 7:26 AM

Mo Hinchey is the white male equivalent of Maxine Waters and Cynthia McKinney, no smarter and just as crazy.

If you are not mortified to have this little sissy as your congressman, you are incapable of embarrassment.

Jaibones on December 1, 2009 at 7:28 AM

What district full of geniuses elected this dufus? And do they breed? I’ll bet the SAT scores of their kids are just peachy.

olesparkie on December 1, 2009 at 7:44 AM

I am sick of our government!

ohiobabe on December 1, 2009 at 8:28 AM

OBAMA’S PROVIDING MORE FREEDOM FOR BIN LADEN, AL QAEDA AND THE TALIBAN, by not taking any action on troop fortifications, and threatening the intelligence organizations responsible for military intel.
OBAMA’S RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY PRESENT TERRORISM AND ENEMY VICTORIES.

Cybergeezer on December 1, 2009 at 9:18 AM

Mr. Hinchey should go to ToraBora and take a look around before running his mouth off. This is not like the Won having a guy in his neighborhood that he never saw. While this guy thinks he’s running down Bush again, he’s also trashing our troops.

Kissmygrits on December 1, 2009 at 9:40 AM

No, Hinchey. Just because your side likes to play politics with American lives doesn’t mean ours does.

Red Cloud on December 1, 2009 at 11:08 AM

If calling President Obama a liar for actually lying is grounds for being censured, do you think Pelosi will censor this Representative for claiming that Bush let Osama Bin Laden go so that he could go to war? Maybe it is just me, but the latter slanderous statement seems a lot worse than the former accurate statement.

Conservative in NOVA on December 1, 2009 at 11:26 AM

America is harmed in a deep way when idiots such as Hinchey, who in all seriousness proffer such whacked-out leftist wet-dream fantasies as if they are legitimate argumentative discourse, are actually in a position to make this nation’s laws.

Edouard on December 1, 2009 at 11:46 AM

I actually watched this and Shuster took him to task….now not because he had a problem with blaming Bush he just thought this guy saying it made Progressives look bad. At Least Shuster challenged him whatever his motivation.

Dr Evil on December 1, 2009 at 12:28 PM

http://www.veteranoutrage.com

How about all of the democrats
Giving away classified information to the new york times
Helping and aiding the islamic terrorists..
Giving 4 islamic mass murders a 10 million dollar vacation in bermuda..
Meeting with the communists – while a member of congress
(kenedy anywone) ?

Running a male escort service out of a congressmans apartment

The list is endless..

So to all the traitors in congress i say this
SHUT THE HELL UP..

veteranoutrage on December 1, 2009 at 1:56 PM

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