Gallup: Americans want KSM tried in a military tribunal

posted at 9:30 am on November 27, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Does the Obama administration ever get tired of getting things wrong?  As their public support drains from the health-care overhaul they’ve pushed for the last several months, they have managed to find another way to marginalize themselves with the American public.  By overwhelming numbers in the latest Gallup survey, Americans disapprove of the decision to try Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in a federal court — and can barely get a majority of Democrats to support it:

By 59% to 36%, more Americans believe accused Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed should be tried in a military court, rather than in a civilian criminal court. Most Republicans and independents favor holding the trial in a military court, while the slight majority of Democrats disagree.

These findings come from a Nov. 20-22 USA Today/Gallup poll conducted a week after U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder announced that Mohammed’s case would move from a military tribunal in Guantanamo Bay, where the admitted terrorist was originally charged, to a federal court in New York City.

As with most Gallup surveys, this poll was taken among adults, not registered or likely voters.  That type of sample usually produces numbers that are more sympathetic to liberal policy positions but are less predictive in election forecasting.  This suggests that the decision may be even less popular in the more predictive sampling of registered or likely voters.

The partisan breakdown is significant, too.  Republicans oppose the decision 74/22, as might be expected.   Independents, though, also oppose it by almost 2-1, 63/32.  Democrats support it — but only by eight points, 51/43.  Support for a federal court trial is a fringe position among everyone but Democrats.

The venue isn’t popular, either.  The Obama administration decision to try KSM and his co-defendants in New York City, as opposed to another federal court, gets rejected 51/42 overall.  Again, only Democrats support the venue choice by a majority, 55/36.  Independents reject it by almost the same margin, 55/39, and Republicans oppose it 65/29.

Just about everyone agrees on the death penalty, though.  Overall, 77% of Americans believe that KSM and the other 9/11 plotters should get executed if found guilty, while only 18% oppose it — and that number doesn’t get above 22% in any partisan demographic.

Once again, the Obama administration has taken a position that puts it in the fringe of American thought — and in this case, two decisions.  With these kinds of splits, expect Obama’s job approval numbers to keep dropping.


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He looks like a muppet in that photo

blatantblue on November 27, 2009 at 9:35 AM

The Obama administration seems very lethargic to me. The issue of putting the Bush admin on trial for waterboarding, etc., would have been terribly popular….6 months ago.

As it is, even the left has moved on. Holder has managed to anger people without any kind of real payoff. Already, the defense attys are acting like they do in big trials. The criticism that this will be a circus is already being played out in the news daily, as they squabble out loud.

And nobody can get the rationale. We want to show how our system works, but there’s no way they’ll be found innocent and set free? Hmmmmmmmmm*

That makes zero sense to anyone. I’m surprised the polls are this good, frankly.

AnninCA on November 27, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Don’t you understand? It’s not what America wants; it’s what Obamao wants and is BEST FOR THE COUNTRY.
It’s his country now!

Cybergeezer on November 27, 2009 at 9:37 AM

The Obama administration’s agenda is completely independent of the American people although the consequences are all ours.
The only amazing thing is that the 2008 election resulted in such an anti American administration.

ORconservative on November 27, 2009 at 9:38 AM

I don’t want them executed.

I’d prefer to know they were sitting in solitary confinement for the rest of their lives.

Let’s not give them the shaheed status they want.

blatantblue on November 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM

This is such a no-brainer. It appears our Precident has no common sense. Finally, finally, finally people are beginning to figure it out. I could do a better job than he is and lots of folks are figuring out that they could, too.

BetseyRoss on November 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM

A 23 cent bullit is quicker………….

1luckydogg on November 27, 2009 at 9:40 AM

Just about everyone agrees on the death penalty, though. Overall, 77% of Americans believe that KSM and the other 9/11 plotters should get executed if found guilty, while only 18% oppose it — and that number doesn’t get above 22% in any partisan demographic.

And Germany is sending a team to NY to make sure that the info they gave the US is not used as a basis for the Death Penalty. (National Review)

And I expect other European Countries who shared information with the US and who are opposed to the Death Penalty to do the same.

So, this is going to get interesting if the judge throws out evidence collected by our CIA because of the torture angle, Miranda etc and we can’t fall back on the European intelligence info. Yep, this was a great decision Obama. /s

journeyintothewhirlwind on November 27, 2009 at 9:40 AM

I think KSM should have been tried, convicted, and sentenced already by some accurate M16 rifle fire.

wildcat84 on November 27, 2009 at 9:40 AM

I don’t want him tried in a civilian court or a military tribunal.

We have zero tolerance policies for everyone and everything except terrorists who kill thousands of people.

I say, just take him and put him in front of a firing squad. Today. Stop dithering.

SouperConservative on November 27, 2009 at 9:41 AM

it was a dumb call.

rob verdi on November 27, 2009 at 9:43 AM

When ever we do execute KSM, can we toss him from the 90th floor of some building?

WashJeff on November 27, 2009 at 9:43 AM

The venue isn’t popular, either. The Obama administration decision to try KSM and his co-defendants in New York City,

When was the last time NY carried out a death sentence?

fourdeucer on November 27, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Since the Won in charge doesn’t listen to the people on health care, economy, or climategate, why think he will change now. Holder doesn’t seem all that confident in this course of action, notice how he looks down all the time instead of directly at a questioner. Maybe KSM should just try to escape.

Kissmygrits on November 27, 2009 at 9:45 AM

Why not follow his own standards of dealing with the enemy?

Some trumped up charges of him copying a DVD would bring the wrath of Hollywood down upon him, which is even worse.

Hening on November 27, 2009 at 9:45 AM

I wonder Obama will promise Europe we won’t use the death penalty…oh, who am I kidding.

Emily M. on November 27, 2009 at 9:46 AM

The only amazing thing is that the 2008 election resulted in such an anti American administration.

ORconservative on November 27, 2009 at 9:38 AM

I blame the MSM. They did everything they could to minimize Obama’s radical associations, his ultra-liberal voting record, and his race-baiting career as a “community organizer” and as a lawyer for groups like ACORN. The MSM portrayed Obama as a cerebral moderate, when they knew full well he was anything but — and a lot of lazy voters couldn’t be bothered to do the work and find out for themselves what Obama was before voting for him.

AZCoyote on November 27, 2009 at 9:47 AM

The GOP needs to keep the pressure up.

Be very public and very vocal about opposing this.

NYC is going to be the #1 target for AQ.

artist on November 27, 2009 at 9:47 AM

But..but..if we deny American rights to those who wish to destroy American rights, we’re worse than the terrorists! Obama went to Harvard and studied the Constamatution!

Sharke on November 27, 2009 at 9:47 AM

A COUPLA HOURS HAVE PASSED AND NOT A SINGLE MSM OUTLET IS REPORTING THIS POLL RESULT.

THEY WANT TO BURY IT LIKE THEY’VE BURIED CLIMATEGATE.

reliapundit on November 27, 2009 at 9:48 AM

Who in the hell are these “democrats” that always support these anti-American policies?

“Polls say a majority of democrats support president Obama’s plans to turn the US into a third world communist hellhole. When asked, many responded they believe being enslaved was the natural state of mankind”.

darwin on November 27, 2009 at 9:48 AM

If our legal system works as it should, then these guys should walk; No one who has gone through the detainment, mistreatment, and condemnation by the press, Attorney General, and President, could get a fair trial, and the system would work in their favor, as it should for anyone under these “civilian” circumstances.
But, if they do go through a trial and are found guilty and sentenced, then our legal system has been compromised by the President and the Attorney General, and is being used by them for political purposes.
IF THIS HAPPENS, OUR COUNTRY AND ESTABLISHED LEGAL SYSTEM IS FINISHED.
This will prove, beyond a shadow of any doubt, that we have become a dictatorship under Obama and his cronies.

Cybergeezer on November 27, 2009 at 9:48 AM

Don’t worry when they cut him loose & he’s driving a cab someone will cap him…………………..

1luckydogg on November 27, 2009 at 9:50 AM

How will they get a conviction?

Waterboarding will nullify any confession, no?

blatantblue on November 27, 2009 at 9:51 AM

THEY WANT TO BURY IT LIKE THEY’VE BURIED CLIMATEGATE.

reliapundit on November 27, 2009 at 9:48 AM

The landfill of MSM denial is quickly turning into a mountain.

Sharke on November 27, 2009 at 9:52 AM

Any polls out there with the # of Americans that would like to see KSM crucified on a cross of pig bones?

Dark-Star on November 27, 2009 at 9:52 AM

Don’t worry when they cut him loose & he’s driving a cab someone will cap him…………………..

1luckydogg on November 27, 2009 at 9:50 AM

Driving a cab? I don’t think so. Just wait until the ACLU lawyers get involved and get him compensation for having his human rights breached. He’ll have enough to open the 8th avenue porno store he’s always dreamed of.

Sharke on November 27, 2009 at 9:55 AM

When was the last time NY carried out a death sentence?

fourdeucer on November 27, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Hey, this is New York, remember? They didn’t even charge the guy who shot John Lennon with first degree murder.

Del Dolemonte on November 27, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Any polls out there with the # of Americans that would like to see KSM crucified on a cross of pig bones?

Dark-Star on November 27, 2009 at 9:52 AM

Ummmm, 110%? With a 5% margin of error?

Anyway, everytime I see that pic, all I think is “Hello, Sexy!” :)

mjk on November 27, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Who in the hell are these “democrats” that always support these anti-American policies?

darwin on November 27, 2009 at 9:48 AM

They’re PATRIOTS

Del Dolemonte on November 27, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Driving a cab? I don’t think so. Just wait until the ACLU lawyers get involved and get him compensation for having his human rights breached. He’ll have enough to open the 8th avenue porno store he’s always dreamed of.

Sharke on November 27, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Really? I’m thinking Tenure at Berkley. He would fit right in.

mjk on November 27, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Since when does it matter what we think?

He Won. He makes the decisions and we’re just expected to get bent, pound sand and STFU.

That’s the new style of American Government.

ted c on November 27, 2009 at 9:57 AM

I don’t want them executed.

I’d prefer to know they were sitting in solitary confinement for the rest of their lives.

Let’s not give them the shaheed status they want.

blatantblue on November 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM

I think the first taste of hell will be far worse than any solitary confinement could ever be.

fourdeucer on November 27, 2009 at 9:57 AM

I don’t want them executed.

I’d prefer to know they were sitting in solitary confinement for the rest of their lives.

Let’s not give them the shaheed status they want.

blatantblue on November 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM

See, I don’t see why me and terrorists like this a-hole don’t get along. They want to die. I want them dead.

We should be able to meet at the top of a hill and drink a Coke.

I couldn’t care less what they want in being martyrs. I think we should kill them the way they killed. KSM beheaded Daniel Pearl right? He should go out the same way.

mjk on November 27, 2009 at 10:00 AM

I sincerely hope these trials go through as planned; This is the end of Obama and his cronies, no matter what the outcome. The outrage shall turn into revolution.
Even if they are sent back for military tribunals, Obama’s finished. He has already tried to influence a Federal Jury.
IF THIS ISN’T HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS, NOTHING IS.

Cybergeezer on November 27, 2009 at 10:01 AM

darwin on November 27, 2009 at 9:48 AM

I think they are the ones Jay Leno used to find to “answer” questions.

blatantblue on November 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM

These jihadist worship them whether they are sitting in prison or martyred. McCarthy’s book went over that when he talked about the Blind Sheikh being held in an Egyptian prison. The MSM doesn’t do it anymore but when I was growing up they would show the anti US/Israel marches and their would be posters of the “martyred” and posters of “political prisoners”. Jailing these guys for life won’t stop anything- they will get/find a way to send messages out and receive visitors.

I thought I read recently that the Israelis rebuffed Obama’s demand that they release 1000 Palestinians from Israeli prisons but can’t remember where I read it.

journeyintothewhirlwind on November 27, 2009 at 10:01 AM

fourdeucer on November 27, 2009 at 9:57 AM

I mean

Either way I’m cool

But I don’t want all their mujahi-bro’s back in the cave dwellings going

Alhamdillilah! Khalid is now a shaheed in the arms of allah!

I’d rather them say

“ugh, he’s stuck in jail forever.”

blatantblue on November 27, 2009 at 10:01 AM

I don’t want them executed.

I’d prefer to know they were sitting in solitary confinement for the rest of their lives.

Let’s not give them the shaheed status they want.

blatantblue on November 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM

I’m pretty sure they won’t want it anymore once they become Satan’s newest buttboys.

Emily M. on November 27, 2009 at 10:02 AM

but again

either way, whatever. im not against killing them in some moral fashion

blatantblue on November 27, 2009 at 10:02 AM

that kind of came out wrong

i have no moral problems with killing them, like many liberals will.

blatantblue on November 27, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Democrats support it — but only by eight points, 51/43. Support for a federal court trial is a fringe position among everyone but Democrats.

Who would have guessed it?
Lemmings and democrats, over the cliff together.

donh525 on November 27, 2009 at 10:03 AM

The fundamental transformation of the US does not require citizens’s approval. That was assumed with Obowma’s election. The only possible impediment (for now) is Congress and that is little more than a snake across the highway; easily rolled over and laughed at. I don’t even know why anyone bothers reading polls. They reinforce what we already know, but people who are grounded in principles don’t need reinforcement. We need leadership…and more components (primers, brass, powder & bullets).

SKYFOX on November 27, 2009 at 10:03 AM

They might as well let him go free now if they do in fact plan on having any kind of a “fair” trial. All confessions obtained will not be allowed into evidence as the government admitted they tortured him. All evidence against the defendant must be turned over to the defense, that is never going to happen. The right to a speedy trial has been denied. That alone should be grounds for an acquittal. The right to an attorney was denied to him for a few years also. I can keep going and going on this. Obama is going to let this guy walk right out of the courtroom as a free man.

Johnnyreb on November 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM

blatantblue on November 27, 2009 at 10:01 AM

I don’t care what terrorists are sitting in caves saying to each other about martrydom. I just want our guys to find them and blow them to hell.

Emily M. on November 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM

Barry can’t even walk this one back without looking craven.

a capella on November 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM

When was the last time NY carried out a death sentence?

fourdeucer on November 27, 2009 at 9:44 AM

The state of NY hasn’t executed anyone since the death penalty was reinstated in 1976. But technically, it won’t be the state of NY that executes the terrorists, if they are executed. They’re being tried on federal charges in federal court, so it is the federal government that will be executing them. (The feds do that by contracting with the states that have death penalties.)

But given the glacial pace of the federal appeals process, not to mention the fact that it is likely to take years before the trials themselves are concluded, it is entirely possible that the terrorists will die in custody — of old age.

AZCoyote on November 27, 2009 at 10:05 AM

They should lock him to a chair in a downtown Fire Station with about 100 NYC Firemen and close the shades and lock the doors.

tatersalad on November 27, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Americans want KSM tried in a military tribunal

Well, not me. I want him beheaded and a tape sent to CNN.

MikeA on November 27, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Gee, I wonder why Obama has stopped doing all of his monthly press conferences??

This guy is going to get more and more isolated as the curtains are pulled back so much that even the MSM can’t hide behind them anymore.

tatersalad on November 27, 2009 at 10:08 AM

AnninCA on November 27, 2009 at 9:35 AM

What absolute twaddle.
The issue of putting the Bush administration on trail for waterboarding etc. was never going to popular beyond the 20 % of Americans that are frankly, self-haters.
A majority would actually remember that radical Islamic terrorists want us all dead.
The reason Obama stepped in this pile of crap is that a majority of people take the idea of people committed to killing us more seriously than this president and A.G.

jjshaka on November 27, 2009 at 10:09 AM

im not against killing them in some moral fashion

blatantblue on November 27, 2009 at 10:02 AM

How do you kill someone in an immoral vs. moral fashion??
I like to hear the parsing, s’il vous plait.

And I still stand behind, kill them the way they killed…..

mjk on November 27, 2009 at 10:09 AM

mjk on November 27, 2009 at 10:09 AM

i clarified for you

blatantblue on November 27, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Polls, schmolls. I’m not a fan, one way or the other – mainly because this ain’t a democracy.

IMHO, this latest Gallup info either means the American people are smarter about constitutional imperatives of national security issues than I suspect, or they are simply weary from the monotonous drone of impotent PC posturing which infests this administration.

My money is on the latter.
.

locomotivebreath1901 on November 27, 2009 at 10:11 AM

(The feds do that by contracting with the states that have death penalties.)
AZCoyote on November 27, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Thank you for that, at least now, if as Obama has promised, the sentence has a minute chance of being carried out.

fourdeucer on November 27, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Congress should just yank jurisdiction from federal courts for any terrorists. Then they will have to go to a military tribunal. Problem solved. Holder and Obama and other assorted leftists could whine all the way home.

txmomof6 on November 27, 2009 at 10:12 AM

We need leadership…and more components (primers, brass, powder & bullets).

SKYFOX on November 27, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Oh, si! (that’s Italian, by the way). Teach your kids and grandkids reloading. Looks like they’ll need the skills. And don’t forget lead casting techniques.

Cybergeezer on November 27, 2009 at 10:14 AM

I think he sould be locked up in the deepest, darkest hole we can find to live out his old age! No martyrdom for KSM! No 72 virgins! Pork for breakfast, luch and dinner (he goes hungry long enough, he’ll eat it) and THEN, just as he’s about to die, a long walk off a short plank from that 90 story building! ( that was such a good idea! I loved that thought! Make him see what he forced some of the 9/11′ers to go through!)

Vntnrse on November 27, 2009 at 10:14 AM

Obama is going to let this guy walk right out of the courtroom as a free man.

Johnnyreb on November 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM

And then blame Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld.

Cybergeezer on November 27, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Thank you for that, at least now, if as Obama has promised, the sentence has a minute chance of being carried out.

fourdeucer on November 27, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Never going to happen. He can’t be convicted, period. If he does wind up getting convicted, our civilain judicial system will be basically destroyed from that point on.

So many fundamental protections that are built into our judicial system will have been either disregarded or out right broken that it will be impossible for KSM to be convicted in a civilian court, because he was supposed to be tried by the military not in a civilian court room.

Johnnyreb on November 27, 2009 at 10:17 AM

And just think this “trail” is going to be around for at least three year of O’s term. He is going to get hammered on this for three years. Not good for him at all. The sand in the glass in slowly sinking to the bottom. Ya!!!!!!!!.

Clyde5445 on November 27, 2009 at 10:20 AM

True dat. Plus, if he is somehow convicted, there will be about 30 years worth of appeals. If KSM is ever executed by the US, the executuioner has probably not even been born yet.

MikeA on November 27, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Just another example of the ‘best administration ever’.

How’s that Honduras humble pie working out for ya Barry?

GarandFan on November 27, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Heard a rumor that he was already in proceedings in a military tribunal when Obama got inaugurated and had pled guilty. Then Obama stopped that proceeding. Was his plea an admission of guilt? Was that proceeding ever concluded? Would that bring up the prohibition against double jeopardy?
ANyone know what happened to that proceeding, if there was oe?

txmomof6 on November 27, 2009 at 10:23 AM

Even if convicted, Obama will pardon KSM. After all, there is a Czar position unfilled; the Czar of Peace, Love and Understanding.

mountainmanbob on November 27, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Ok How this….. The jury should be Firefighters, Policemen & people who had loved ones killed on 9-11………..

1luckydogg on November 27, 2009 at 10:29 AM

AnninCA,

You are delusional if you think putting GWB on trial would have been popular outside of the crazy left.

Cybergeezer,

You are absolutely right and I can’t figure out why more people are not screaming about the legal precedents this trial could set. If KSM is found guilty in civilian court after his treatment (totally justified) the legal system for American citizens will become harsher.

Howcome on November 27, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Cybergeezer,

You are absolutely right and I can’t figure out why more people are not screaming about the legal precedents this trial could set. If KSM is found guilty in civilian court after his treatment (totally justified) the legal system for American citizens will become harsher.

Howcome on November 27, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Not sure, but that may be what is behind the whole thing here. Remember Obama said the constitution is mostly negative rights as written. He then went on to explain how there was no real positive rights, and he specifically mentioned the distribution of wealth. Maybe this is a back door way to get some more “positive” rights put in by SCOTUS?

Johnnyreb on November 27, 2009 at 10:45 AM

The issue of putting the Bush admin on trial for waterboarding, etc., would have been terribly popular….6 months ago.

AnninCA on November 27, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Once again Ann demonstrates she’s from another planet.

Blake on November 27, 2009 at 10:49 AM

This show trial is not about the terrorists. This is about putting Bush and his top people on trial. After all the info on the torture and detainment of these terrorists is put out there for the whole world to see, the leftists around the world will start demanding Nuremberg-like trials for Bush and Cheney ect.

There will be no support for this on American soil except from the 20% hard-core leftists. But this has been their angle all along. Destroy our WOT. Destroy our capabilities. Make decent people fear for standing upto evil lest they be charged and put on trial too.

HalSandro on November 27, 2009 at 10:51 AM

Once again Ann demonstrates she’s from another planet.

Blake on November 27, 2009 at 10:49 AM

Pot, meet kettle.

The majority of the public have gotten over the Bush-bashing mania, from what I can see, however the Dem-o-RATS in power have certainly not.

Dark-Star on November 27, 2009 at 10:52 AM

There would be revolution if Obamao tries to amend the Constitution. He still may try by adding an amendment to some outrageous legislation that would divert attention from the amendment, that he would try to sign into law.
It would not be easy to make any amendments. It would have to go through Congress and made public before any approval.

Cybergeezer on November 27, 2009 at 10:53 AM

I don’t see any way that
(A. We get a conviction in NY.

and

(B. He gets executed in NY if we do.

Anyway, my preferred method for him would be VERRRRRY SLLLLOOOOWWW and PAINFUL and would have to include swine.

conservnut on November 27, 2009 at 10:53 AM

Once again Ann demonstrates she’s from another planet.

Blake on November 27, 2009 at 10:49 AM

I think she lives in the same neighborhood as Arianna Huffington. Or this IS Arianna Huffington at her best.

Cybergeezer on November 27, 2009 at 10:56 AM

You are delusional if you think putting GWB on trial would have been popular outside of the crazy left.

Cybergeezer,

That is precisely what I meant. It would have been popular with his base.

AnninCA on November 27, 2009 at 10:57 AM

This is what the world is like when run by liberals. Sheesh! It’s Friday, but Sunday’s comin’.

Mojave Mark on November 27, 2009 at 10:58 AM

I don’t think his base is even still interested much. That was my point.

Holder missed the opportune moment if the goal was to satisfy the base. It’s pretty much a dead story now.

Today? It is mostly just aggravating the heck out of people.

AnninCA on November 27, 2009 at 10:59 AM

You are delusional if you think putting GWB on trial would have been popular outside of the crazy left.

Cybergeezer,

That is precisely what I meant. It would have been popular with his base.

AnninCA on November 27, 2009 at 10:57 AM

NOT MY QUOTE.

Cybergeezer on November 27, 2009 at 11:02 AM

***
President Franklin D. Roosevelt–a socialistic liberal president–did understand how to take care of terrorists and saboteurs. Eight of them landed on our shores in 1942 from a Nazi submarine. They were quickly caught–2 months later 6 of them had been tried by military tribunal and executed in the electric chair. Two got life sentences.
***
Comrade Obama (PBUH) and his “democRAT” / liberal / socialist / statist / marxist / communist ilk in congress and our government have just set KSM and his 4 fellow “enables of man caused disasters” free.
***
Maybe KSM could take a job–at taxpayer expense–with “bomber” BILL AYERS in Chitown. Birds of a feather flock together.
***
Send KSM and his terrorist buddies to Texas for the traditional quick trial and Old West style LONG DROP WITH A SHORT ROPE if they are found guilty. Hope and Change you can believe in!
***
John Bibb
***

rocketman on November 27, 2009 at 11:11 AM

Haha Cybergeezer, creative quoting almost got you.

Howcome on November 27, 2009 at 11:17 AM

With all of barrys deficits we can’t afford all of this pomp and circumstance. A military tribunal and execution say tomorrow would be much more cost effective.We can’t just continue to waste money and resources and expect the rest of the world to go along!

tim c on November 27, 2009 at 11:23 AM

Knowing Gallup, the question read something like:

“Do you think KSM should be brought to justice for his “crimes” by American courts, or let the Bush orchestrated military tribunals handle it?”

marklmail on November 27, 2009 at 11:24 AM

i clarified for you

blatantblue on November 27, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Whoops. My bad. sorry, Blatantblue.

mjk on November 27, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Obama says “Screw You!” to America.

Daily.

profitsbeard on November 27, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Look! We can\’t interrupt formal state dinners, Nobel Peace Prize ceremonies, begging missions to China,trips to Europe to plead for Olympic venues ans sign away U.S. sovereignty, and, especially, cabinet meetings to discuss government takeover of industry and to vastly abridge personal freedoms (and to vastly increase personal taxes) for minor trivia like war, depression and justice for US hating religious fanatics. Let\’s drop this military tribunal BS (sarcastic) OK?

MaiDee on November 27, 2009 at 11:44 AM

When was the last time NY carried out a death sentence?

fourdeucer on November 27, 2009 at 9:44 AM

This is federal court in NY, not NY State criminal court. Federal carries the death penalty.

Urban Infidel on November 27, 2009 at 11:47 AM

By 59% to 36%, more Americans believe accused Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed should be tried in a military court,

Obama doesn’t consider himself fringe. the 36% of the people who agree with him, they are the leaders. He’s a leader.

The Dems/Left feel the same way about healthcare. If you believe that 65% of the people are reactionaries, then natural you and your voters are visionaries, leading a backward looking peoples into a progressive age

They take validation from these polls.

r keller on November 27, 2009 at 11:50 AM

By 59% to 36%…..

So 59% of the country is racist?

ConservativeTony on November 27, 2009 at 11:54 AM

This is federal court in NY, not NY State criminal court. Federal carries the death penalty.

Urban Infidel on November 27, 2009 at 11:47 AM

(The feds do that by contracting with the states that have death penalties.)
AZCoyote on November 27, 2009 at 10:05 AM

I understand now thanks again.

fourdeucer on November 27, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Some related parodies:

Crime! Declared on al-Qaeda and Other 9/11 Terrorists http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/11/crime-declared-on-al-qaeda-and-other.html

Foreign Terrorists Win Citizens’ Right to Federal Court Trial After Targeting Their 3,000th Civilian http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/11/foreign-terrorists-win-citizens-right.html

Al-Qaeda Reporters Provide Detailed Coverage of National Security Information Revealed in Open Court Criminal Prosecutions of 9/11 Terrorists http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/11/terrorist-reporters-provide-detailed.html

Mervis Winter on November 27, 2009 at 12:19 PM

. I want him beheaded and a tape sent to CNN.

MikeA on November 27, 2009 at 10:08 AM

To be aired on Anderson Cooper’s snoozefest. Of course, he’ll edit it to make Bush look bad somehow.

Del Dolemonte on November 27, 2009 at 12:29 PM

The majority of the public have gotten over the Bush-bashing mania, from what I can see, however the Dem-o-RATS in power have certainly not.

Dark-Star on November 27, 2009 at 10:52 AM

I saw Forehead Begala on CNN earlier this week-he said the Democrats should keep blaming Bush for their failures…for the next 80 to 90 years!

And no, I am not making that up, I saw and heard it myself-almost choked on my haggis.

Del Dolemonte on November 27, 2009 at 12:32 PM

Why are we even discussing this at all? If we had leaders instead of the effete excuses we currently endure, this animal would be room temperature right now.
I don’t want one penny of my tax dollars wasted to keep this sub-human alive.

BackwardsBoy on November 27, 2009 at 12:38 PM

59% to 36%

These surveys are very useful to track what percentage of our population is Democrat. The 36 percent must be adjusted for most American muslims, open borders Hispanics, and every remaining idiot in the other parties

entagor on November 27, 2009 at 1:01 PM

o one needed a poll to know this is a very unpopular idea. “Smart power”, my ass.

elclynn on November 27, 2009 at 1:02 PM

I think it would be total life-threatening immaturity if Obama & Holder types want this NY trial mainly to blast the Bush administration in part for waterboarding these psychopathic sickos for information. Most Americans by far, I suspect, aren’t too terribly conflicted with the idea of waterboarding terrorists for life saving info. The insanity of liberal bleeding hearts who claim they would see mass slaughter rather than waterboarding is IMO a genuine mental illness. I’d waterboard a terrorist to save just ONE life – probably even just my dog’s.

Chessplayer on November 27, 2009 at 1:23 PM

Editorial from a newspaper on Colorado today…

http://www.themountainmail.com/main.asp?SectionID=7&SubSectionID=7&ArticleID=17835

I highlighted the money paragraph. If one of our resident bridge-dwellers can answer the question posed, please do so. But those of us with functioning brain cells already no the correct answer.

Terrorists’ bonanza

The decision by Obama administration officials to bring a terrorist who admits to plotting the Sept. 11 attacks and four others to New York City for criminal trials amounts to a public relations bonanza for terrorists and a disaster for U.S. security interests.

A trial will allow unprecedented – to borrow a favorite administration term – terrorist grandstanding on the world’s greatest media stage, an opportunity for Islamic extremists to vent their hatred for America, freedom and democracy.

At the same time, the trials will present terrorists with a venue and a reason to launch further attacks, just a few blocks from where the Twin Towers came down eight years ago. Attacks don’t have to be on the scale of slamming passenger-filled airliners into skyscrapers. They will draw just as much attention if similar to, for instance, the shootings by another Islamic extremist at Fort Hood just a few weeks ago.

The trials also will give U.S. enemies valuable insights into vital national security information through the civil discovery process where prosecutors must turn over information to defense lawyers.

Why is Attorney General Eric Holder even holding trials when Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, supposedly the Sept. 11 mastermind, has repeatedly announced he wished to plead guilty to charges brought against him in military tribunals? What’s to be gained by now bringing criminal charges?

It should also be noted that Mr. Holder is a senior partner in Covington & Burling, a Washington, D.C. law firm representing 17 Guantanamo detainees. Any possible conflict of interest here?

Del Dolemonte on November 27, 2009 at 1:33 PM

And no, I am not making that up, I saw and heard it myself-almost choked on my haggis.

Del Dolemonte on November 27, 2009 at 12:32 PM

I would have choked on haggis even without Begala.

1921 C DRUM on November 27, 2009 at 1:42 PM

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