Video: Beck discourages re-enlistment under Obama?
posted at 9:30 am on November 25, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
I don’t disagree with most of what Glenn Beck says in this piece. Courts-martial for Navy SEALS who allegedly gave a terrorist a fat lip while in custody? Does the Navy court-martial sailors who give each other fat lips? Would a SEAL stop at a fat lip if he actually got out of control? (I know a couple of SEALs, and I highly, highly doubt it.) Few would disagree with the thought that we should put the men and women who dedicate their lives to this country as our first priority, either, and that we should give them the resources to win fights when we put them in the middle of a war. But going on national television and advising them not to re-enlist? Beck does that here, and that’s one step too far (via The Right Scoop):
I’d have a problem with this advice if it was given privately, let alone to millions watching on television. Men and women enlist in the volunteer service to defend America, not to pick and choose which Commander in Chief they follow. They’re professionals who serve with honor regardless of the politics of the day. If they feel as though they’re not getting the support they need, they will know it better than those of us sitting stateside arguing over politics and policy. They will not need us to suggest that they bail out of the military if those are truly the conditions under which they serve.
Had someone like Keith Olbermann or Chris Matthews gone on the air in 2005-8 and told millions (well, thousands in that case) that men and women should refuse re-enlistment because George Bush had underresourced the fight in Iraq — which seems indisputable now, especially after the success of the surge — conservatives would have screamed from the rooftops, and been right to do so. Furthermore, the problem in Iraq of underresourcing and strategic drift and decline lasted more than twice as long then as Obama’s been in office now.
We’re a nation at war, with the best and most professional army in history. We should trust that they can calculate the benefits and drawbacks of reenlistment with much greater insight than civilians, and refrain from using that process for political purposes — and especially refrain from encouraging our best and brightest to leave when we need them the most.
Update: Yes, he really did tell his nephew not to re-enlist:
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You Dave sicken me. He served his country for years and left Honorably. He Loves his country all the time. Are you suggesting if you do not serve for Life , you do not love your country?
The fact that you refuse to answer the question of service yourself, we assume you have never served. By your logic the would mean you Hate your country.
The truth is you are trying to use this to spin and spew your BS.
You sir are the “sh*tty citizen”.
IowaWoman on November 26, 2009 at 4:51 AM
And any Marine, soldier, sailor, or airman will re-enlist or not re-enlist for their own reasons.
Many will re-enlist contrary to wishes for them not to. The communist apologizer in chief may be giving the orders, but those of us who are on the line or who have been on the line know full well our oath of enlistment is to The Constitution – to a set of ideals – to America as a nation of individual citizens. American troops follow an idea, not a president.
I understand Beck’s reasoning. Were I his nephew, I would say “With all the problems and dangers facing the military and the country, you’re right, Uncle Glenn. That’s why I HAVE to re-enlist.”
Heck, knowing that the fight’s still going on and I’m not there has gotten me to volunteer to return twice.
CPL 310 on November 26, 2009 at 4:56 AM
Bravo
IowaWoman on November 26, 2009 at 4:57 AM
To Beck and the rest of the civilian world, especially the responsible civilian world (i.e. libertarian/conservative/classic liberals), to volunteer to return to combat under such circumstances is madness.
They’re right. But they don’t get it.
(Darned lack of preview button working!)
CPL 310 on November 26, 2009 at 4:58 AM
But with a Muslim sympathizer in the White House who couldn’t even bring himself to call the Ft. Hood atacks “Islamic terrorism,” how could any self-respecting American serve under him as Commander in Chief?
ericdondero on November 25, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Careful how you word this. There are those here who want to suggest that Beck is not talking about opting out of enlistment or re-enlistment but, rather, he is encouraging desertion and mutiny.
The fact of the matter is members of the military are forced to serve under the filthy lying dithering coward until they have met all the obligations. That doesn’t mean they have to stay when their contract is up or they have met their initial service obligation. I predict a wave of officers resigning their commissions and enlisted folks not re-upping in the next couple of years. Who in their right mind would stay in the military under this rat bastard traitor. He is needlessly killing soldiers but is more interested in poll numbers, healthcare reform, and picking out a dog than he is in what is going on in Afghanistan and Iraq.
highhopes on November 25, 2009 at 8:49 PMIs it “Mutiny” if one does not consider the current occupant of the Presidency of the United States to be a legitimate Commander in Chief?
Outstanding questions remain about the location of his Birth
Refusal to release his Birth Certificate
A mysterious trip that he himself admits too in his book, to Pakistan in 1982 on an Indonesian (!!!) passport, at a time when visits to that country by American citizens was explicitly prohibited
ericdondero on November 26, 2009 at 5:06 AM
Serving under Clinton was entirely different that this Far Leftist un-American pr*ck we now have as C-I-C. Obama makes Clinton look like a carbon copy of Ronald Reagan (well, almost).
And at the very least we know for a fact, William Jefferson Clinton was born, without a shadow of a doubt, in Hope, Arkansas, USA.
Obama? Born in Kenya? Became a citizen of Indonesia? Who knows for sure??
ericdondero on November 26, 2009 at 5:19 AM
Their expertise might be needed to lead men into battle right here. Just sayin’…
wordwarp on November 26, 2009 at 6:20 AM
Rywall is Canadian? Now every imbecile comment he’s made makes sense.
splink on November 26, 2009 at 6:29 AM
I mean really – who cares if you don’t want to re-enlist? I’m sure many, many exciting and well-paying careers await you when you leave. Now that Bush’s folly in Iraq is nearing its end, it’s time to cut the payroll anyway.
Bye! Thanks, etc.
simplesimon on November 26, 2009 at 7:23 AM
Actually, despite your intended sarcasm, employers prefer military vets over people who make snarky comments on websites from their mothers basements. Also, in many states (Illinois-for one), tax incentives are given to hire vets.
Blarg the Destroyer on November 26, 2009 at 7:41 AM
I have one grandson, and he is 17. He is considering his future and ours is a military family. I have asked him to not enlist during this debacle, because I sincerely do not believe our current national leadership is prepared to properly utilize our military for the best advantage of our nation’s security or our support of the security of other democratic people. Does asking him that makes me unpatriotic? If so, so be it. But I don’t want my grandson to die for the dismanteling of America.
MikeA on November 26, 2009 at 8:18 AM
Of course not. It makes you a loving grandfather.
Loxodonta on November 26, 2009 at 8:29 AM
No, just a childish old man. Grow up, grandpa.
simplesimon on November 26, 2009 at 9:03 AM
This idea would backfire; We’d become conscripts in the American mujahideen.
Beck hasn’t thought this through. Unless he predicts, and there is a successful revolution. I’m in.
Cybergeezer on November 26, 2009 at 9:31 AM
That was uncalled for. A mean-spirited, personal attack on a young man’s grandfather. You could have answered his question and offered a reason, but no. You had to resort to a personal attack.
Why?
pdigaudio on November 26, 2009 at 9:32 AM
I’d say you are a patriot of the old school; Protesting against an oppressive government, which we definitely have. Don’t you think?
Cybergeezer on November 26, 2009 at 9:34 AM
I totally agree with Glenn
I told my nephew the same thing when he was going to go into the service before the election. He’s NOT serving.
We don’t need a huge military unless we trounce all over the world and nation build. WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO DO! READ 4000YR LEAP
beware of the military industrial complex
Lisa on November 26, 2009 at 9:44 AM
Sometimes, I admit that it is difficult.
I disagree with Beck on this. And I would not give the same advice to a loved one as MikeA did. I greatly respect those who serve our country in our armed forces, despite the risks they take and regardless of how reckless their civilian leaders of the moment are. I admire them that they can remain focused on their missions, do great work, and help defend and protect the Constitution and America, despite all the hurdles and dangers placed in their way, some completely unnecessarily.
However, I do understand and appreciate being worried for a loved one. And each of us who can serve, has a right to choose if and how we serve. And we each have a right to our opinions. So, I see no lack of patriotism in those who offer such advice as Glenn or MikeA, nor a better form of patriotism, simply a different approach to a very difficult question.
Loxodonta on November 26, 2009 at 9:54 AM
On behalf of a thoughtless and heartless troll who has no manners, thank you for the service of your family.
Loxodonta on November 26, 2009 at 9:58 AM
Tis the thread that won’t die…
Our military today does not enjoy the support of their Commander in Chief. In fact, he has set stifling Rules of Engagement (ROEs) coupled with aggressive prosecution of our best and bravest that has man (and me) wondering just whose side he is on.
The three SEALs receiving Courts Martial for capturing the most wanted terrorist in Iraq…and giving him a fat-lip in the process…bear witness to this fact. The men & women of our military are beginning to fear the lawyers of JAG more than the enemy…even as the distinction between the two continues to blur.
Thus my support for Glenn Beck’s comment…and my own reversal from actively promoting military service, to arguing strongly AGAINST it.
Justrand on November 26, 2009 at 10:03 AM
I cannot disagrees with Mr Beck, the WH has turned it’s back on the military, but why does that surprise anyone, he’s a democrat, they abandoned the military after Viet Nam, why should this be any different. The bad thing is Mr Beck will be accused of putting ideas in the mind of the military, I would suspect many of them have come to the same conclusion on their own, fortunately or unfortunately some other words will come to their mind, like family, duty, honor and country also one other word loyalty to their fellow members of the military, words that I feel are very foreign to most democrats
RonK on November 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM
It just wouldn’t be the same place without simon. It would be better but not the same.
Bishop on November 26, 2009 at 10:19 AM
why don’t YOU go join the military? hmmmm? why don’t you put your money where your mouth is??
go fight and die for YOUR savior…
time for you libs to die for your country…
right4life on November 26, 2009 at 10:26 AM
I don’t need Glen Beck to tell me.
I know we have a corrupt, incompetent clown in the White Hosue.
I also know that I can retire.
Which I will do.
I’m not going into a war zone under an unqualified jackass who thinks terrorists and irregulars deserve civilian trial.
Let him win in Afghanistan with trial lawyers, “journalists” and Code Pink. I’m outta here.
NoDonkey on November 26, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Glenn Beck is a stain on Fox News. They need to get rid of him.
Like much of Glenn Beck arguments, his advice here is incoherent. He’s trying to sound hawkish “WE CAN’T FIGHT HALF-ASSED!” and then in the next sentence “Hey, soldiers don’t re-enlist.” Uh, Glenn, ever thought that perhaps the military can’t find with the full force if they don’t have troops re-enlisting?
Also, what an idiot he for decrying nation building. You can’t leave a country in shambles, a-hole. We nation build Germany and Japan.
This guy is an absolute idiot.
terryannonline on November 26, 2009 at 10:37 AM
I don’t anyone any here on Hot Air questioning my conservatism any longer because most of you support of this a-hole. Glenn Beck is no conservative.
terryannonline on November 26, 2009 at 10:41 AM
You have a Happy Thanksgiving, terryann. I know it will be hard for a sourpuss.
mobydutch on November 26, 2009 at 10:41 AM
Ed, you’re foolish to believe that Glenn Beck will actually convince young Americans not to serve if that’s what they intend to do. When I enlisted (Nixon/Vietnam era) I received mostly negative responses to my decision. Didn’t matter to me then, and it won’t matter to them now. I suggest your misplaced faith in his power over the minds of others may be based on your own egotistical notion of your persuasive powers. Neither you nor Beck are Jedi. This fact renders his encouragement moot and your chastisement pointless. Still love ya, though. Just not on this.
SKYFOX on November 26, 2009 at 10:51 AM
yeah after we fought a TOTAL WAR, and killed millions…we don’t do that anymore.
get a clue.
Beck is right, you’re the idiot.
right4life on November 26, 2009 at 10:51 AM
I promise I “anyone any here” won’t question your whatever.
SKYFOX on November 26, 2009 at 11:09 AM
is it too late to weigh in on terryannonline being a total moron?? Of course not!
I can see why terryannonline wants FoxNews to “get rid of him”. Because the more Beck exposes Lord Obama and his cast of radicals “Fundamentally Transforming America”…the more people WAKE UP!
terryannonline doesn’t WANT people to wake up. It’s 9/10/2001 in terryannonline‘s world…and he/she/it can’t wait to hit the snooze-button again! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Justrand on November 26, 2009 at 11:10 AM
1. Glenn Beck is wrong on this one
2. Ignore the trolls
3. Terryann you’re a stain
CWforFreedom on November 26, 2009 at 11:16 AM
A long line of family members have served and are serving full careers in our army, and they tend to take a longer view. We need a strong military now because of our weak president, and we will need a strong military after he is gone because of the difficulties he will leave behind. Our military folks are not the cut-and-run type, and they are obstacle-overcomers. Obama is a major obstacle.
By the way, they are torn about the upcoming Obama speech at West Point.
GaltBlvnAtty on November 26, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Those comments were very unkind and uncalled for, especially on this day. I’m disappointed in you.
Loxodonta on November 26, 2009 at 11:26 AM
We can’t fight a “total war” without soldiers enlisting and re-enlisting.
Well Beck’s “we shouldn’t nation build” and don’t re-enlist advice to soldiers sounds a lot like cutting and running. Glenn Beck is the cut-and-run type.
terryannonline on November 26, 2009 at 11:26 AM
It is totally called for. I’m tired of these so called “conservative” TV pundits dumping all over our military actions overseas. And that is what Glenn Beck doing here. OH NO WE SHOULDN’T NATION BUILD! DON’T RE-ENLIST SOLDIERS!
I’m just calling it like I see it.
terryannonline on November 26, 2009 at 11:30 AM
Hey, I voted for John McCain over President Obama. However, Becky preferred Obama or Hillary.
Glenn Beck: Hillary 2012!
terryannonline on November 26, 2009 at 11:36 AM
I don’t mind at all if you call it like you see it and disagree with me, Glenn or anyone else. I just wish you would do so with more light than heat, more clarity than muddiness, more charity than anger, and more humor than defensiveness.
And I hope you have a good day of thanksgiving with your loved ones today and every day.
Loxodonta on November 26, 2009 at 11:41 AM
I think there is more to it than that. I’m not completely condoning what Beck said, although I do think it is being overblown and taken out of context a bit.
Like I said earlier, my decision not to re-enlist (for a 4th time) was largely based on the current CINC (Billy Jeff).
Maybe it wasn’t all his fault, some of it was, “Hey, the Cold War is over, let’s downsize recklessly.”
We lost a lot of senior NCOs to new, attractive early retirement incentives. Bases were closing, we were being crammed into new bases. Being deployed with politically driven ROEs, limited ammo, limited weapons, limited support, under-strength units, new recruits coming through the new “less stressful” OSUT, and a sudden nco-gap was not attractive.
Throw in a CINC who turns tail and runs after seeing your fellow soldier’s corpses being dragged naked through the streets put a lot of guys over the edge.
It’s easy to say, “Well you should want to serve your country no matter who is in charge”. When you are actually on the ground somewhere, and you have to endure 10, 20 new politically driven things that make you less safe, it’s a different story.
reaganaut on November 26, 2009 at 11:44 AM
No, you’re blind. That is what happens when someone who doesn’t bother watching or listening to Beck beyond the sound clips form an opinion of the man.
PS: I have no problem questioning your conservatism.
mizflame98 on November 26, 2009 at 11:48 AM
Hey I heard the terrorists are willing to put their actions on hold while stupid people heed Beck’s call to abandon and weaken the US military.
That’s so awesome!
It’s a win-win for Hotair America hating chickensh*ts!
Dave Rywall on November 26, 2009 at 11:48 AM
How long did you serve in the military, what branch, what war/conflict?
mizflame98 on November 26, 2009 at 11:51 AM
How long did you serve in the military, what branch, what war/conflict?
mizflame98 on November 26, 2009 at 11:51 AM
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I wanted to fight in Vietnam, but was too young. I got in under Jimmy Carter. I joined the NAVY and was assigned to 7th Fleet. I served on USS Midway, who was first on station when embassy in Iran was taken over.
Dave Rywall on November 26, 2009 at 11:56 AM
You see Glenn Beck tries to have it both ways here. He’s decrying that Obama is half-way supporting the effort but then he says we shouldn’t nation build. If Glenn Beck doesn’t think we should be nation building that means he thinks we shouldn’t in Afghanistan. Period. The whole “we can’t half-*ss it” is a moot point. He wants out of Afghanistan and Iraq. Plain and simple. He is just saying in a weaselly way.
terryannonline on November 26, 2009 at 11:57 AM
When are you enlisting, Terryann? You know, they take women in the Army these days.
And quit calling yourself a conservative. All you are is an Allahpundit groupie. I’m sure it flatters him, but it makes you look like a silly young girl.
trfogey on November 26, 2009 at 11:58 AM
Sounds like an argument I would hear over at the Daily Kos. Disappointed I’m hearing here at Hot Air.
terryannonline on November 26, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Hey, you know who doesn’t call them self a conservative?
Glenn Beck.
He’s one of those cool Bush-bashing libertarians.
terryannonline on November 26, 2009 at 12:03 PM
Before or after you served in the Canadian Parliament with the conservative party?
Credibility, you have none.
daesleeper on November 26, 2009 at 12:05 PM
Please stop picking on Terryann. I am pretty sure that someone stole her lunch money as a child.
mobydutch on November 26, 2009 at 12:06 PM
Considering that you are screeching hysterically like a KOStard, it’s an appropriate question to ask. Didn’t hear your answer, though, so feel free to speak up a little louder, keyboard kommando.
trfogey on November 26, 2009 at 12:07 PM
Before or after you served in the Canadian Parliament with the conservative party?
Credibility, you have none.
daesleeper on November 26, 2009 at 12:05 PM
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daesleeper? Is that your real name, sir?
Are you a legitimate member of the Daesleeper family or are you an imposter?
1 Are you supportive of Beck’s call to weaken the US military in a time of war?
2 Do you hate America?
(Well, a yes answer to 1 is a yes answer to 2.)
Dave Rywall on November 26, 2009 at 12:09 PM
spot on
flyoverboy on November 26, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Uh, I didn’t know the folks over at Daily Kos get upset when TV pundits start advising our soldiers not to re-enlist. Good to know.
terryannonline on November 26, 2009 at 12:10 PM
Wow, “conservatives” advocating shutting Beck up. Lol
True_King on November 26, 2009 at 12:11 PM
Face it Glenn Beck defenders: Beck is turning into a Paulnut right before our eyes. How long before Ron Paul is a weekly guest on Beck’s show?
terryannonline on November 26, 2009 at 12:12 PM
I sat on two juries while in the service and unless things have gone completely to hell , they will get a fair trial . The most disturbing allegations I have read are that they covered up wrong doing . The military will work with you through some big mistakes , but you don’t lie to your chain of command . For Beck to suggest someone not enlist at these most perilous times is unforgivable . Reminds me of Viet Nam era leftist propagandists asserting the real brave Americans refused to serve . Peacenik Glenn Baez should start a hunger strike . The day may come when Beck-Baez has to do his own fighting . I hope someone has a camera .
borntoraisehogs on November 26, 2009 at 12:29 PM
Thankfully, enlisting and reenlisting in the US military is still a personal choice. It is up to each person to weigh their options and make personal decisions based on what is important to them as an individual.
Some may view the lack of support and negative comments from the leftists currently controlling government as a good reason to not join/rejoin. Others may focus on supporting their fellow military members as a good reason to join/rejoin. We should not be critical of anyone’s personal choice in this matter. If they ask for your advise, then provide it. Otherwise, you know what to do.
ray on November 26, 2009 at 12:32 PM
That’s peculiar. A Canadian serving in the US Navy under Carter. Hmmm.
mizflame98 on November 26, 2009 at 12:34 PM
You demonstrate the logic of a leftist moby with that comment.
ray on November 26, 2009 at 12:35 PM
That’s peculiar. A Canadian serving in the US Navy under Carter. Hmmm.
mizflame98 on November 26, 2009 at 12:34 PM
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It was really complicated, but worth it.
Dave Rywall on November 26, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Thank God on this day of thanksgiving we are blessed enough to humbly agree or disagree without fear, whether it is from the largest megaphone or from the written thoughts on an anonymous blog. Glenn is blessed with the same rights the rest of have, to use our gifts effectively, openly, and honestly.
fourdeucer on November 26, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Well, while you sit there disappointed; answer the question. When are you enlisting?
mizflame98 on November 26, 2009 at 12:37 PM
Yeah, lies tend to be complicated.
mizflame98 on November 26, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Yeah, lies tend to be complicated.
mizflame98 on November 26, 2009 at 12:38 PM
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Sorry I shouldn’t have responded to your post – did nobody tell you you may not comment in this thread until you tell us all about your service in the military?
Dave Rywall on November 26, 2009 at 12:42 PM
we haven’t fought a total war since WWII…no total war, no total victory…look at NK and Vietnam, for examples of this…lots of our men die, for what?
we have won in Iraq…but for how long? our rules of engagement make certain that more of our troops will die than necessary.
if you want to build a nation, you have to destroy it first. and kill a lot of people…we don’t have the guts for that anymore, obviously.
If I was in the military now, I would get out…they are pawns of the leftist ideology of defeat for america.
and why die for this country anymore? let the liberals die for their country for a change.
right4life on November 26, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Whoa people! Hold on. We at home have our life or death battle just like the Military does. The country’s very survival is on the line.
If we try and pick the Huckabees and Palins of the world to replace Obama we’ll be spending 8 years with him in office.
Our job is to replace Obama in 3 years. The country will survive that small amount of time. Military, don’t give up, please endure Obama for a short time longer.
We’ll do our part.
scotash on November 26, 2009 at 12:49 PM
are you sure about that? Iran will get nukes…and they’ll deliver a ‘present’ to their new american friends…
glad I don’t live in NYC or DC….
right4life on November 26, 2009 at 12:57 PM
http://sarah-palin-2012.blogspot.com/2009/11/telling-it-like-it-is.html
Dear President Obama,
My name is Harold Estes, approaching 95 on December 13 of this year. People meeting me for the first time don’t believe my age because I remain wrinkle free and pretty much mentally alert.
I enlisted in the U.S. Navy in 1934 and served proudly before, during and after WW II retiring as a Master Chief Bos’n Mate. Now I live in a “rest home” located on the western end of Pearl Harbor, allowing me to keep alive the memories of 23 years of service to my country.
One of the benefits of my age, perhaps the only one, is to speak my mind, blunt and direct even to the head man.
So here goes.
I am amazed, angry and determined not to see my country die before I do, but you seem hell bent not to grant me that wish.
I can’t figure out what country you are the president of.
You fly around the world telling our friends and enemies despicable lies like:
” We’re no longer a Christian nation”
” America is arrogant” – (Your wife even
announced to the world,”America is mean-
spirited. ” Please tell her to try preaching
that nonsense to 23 generations of our
war dead buried all over the globe who
died for no other reason than to free a
whole lot of strangers from tyranny and
hopelessness.)
Click on link above to keep reading.
Dr Evil on November 26, 2009 at 1:00 PM
That is interesting.
Dave, tell us how that works.
DarkCurrent on November 26, 2009 at 1:07 PM
Dave certainly has a simple explanation for that.
Don’t you Dave?
DarkCurrent on November 26, 2009 at 1:09 PM
Nope.
mizflame98 on November 26, 2009 at 1:21 PM
The more I think about it, the more Beck’s defeatist attitude rubs me wrong.
I’m sure we all can agree that we’ll be so much safer with a bunch of dummies enlisting in the army to replace the good people Beck discourages from joining.
scotash on November 26, 2009 at 1:22 PM
Dave also commanded one of Genghis Khan’s armies. The one in Persia I think, if memory serves.
DarkCurrent on November 26, 2009 at 1:26 PM
Wow! Thread way too long to read.
Simply put, I see it as “are you willing to take a bullet for the President?” As you can see I don’t have any family or friends in the military (thank God) but I know I’d be darn worried right now.
Sorry if I disappoint anybody. That is just MHO.
ProudPalinFan on November 26, 2009 at 1:27 PM
It’s more complex than that. The real question is are you willing to take a bullet when you have no support from the White House and you are serving a government that will give the enemy more protection than you.
mizflame98 on November 26, 2009 at 1:47 PM
Ask this guy what Rywall is like as a shipmate. He was your shipmate, wasn’t he, Dave? Or were you just too lazy to come up with a better lie?
trfogey on November 26, 2009 at 1:50 PM
Dave certainly has a simple explanation for that.
Don’t you Dave?
DarkCurrent on November 26, 2009 at 1:09 PM
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Well, it certainly doesn’t involve being a p*ssy and calling for the weakening of the US military in a time of war.
Dave Rywall on November 26, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Great. So let’s hear it!
DarkCurrent on November 26, 2009 at 2:03 PM
Lots of things you don’t know, aren’t there?
Did having Juan Williams as a daily guest on his show make Brit Hume African-American? If Ron Paul makes weekly appearances on any program, it’ll be the end of the Paul “phenomenon”, so i’d encourage Glenn to have him on the show as often as possible. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
trfogey on November 26, 2009 at 2:03 PM
You are very perceptive.
Perceptron on November 26, 2009 at 2:16 PM
I love this. Yesterday Rywall claims to be a member of Canada’s parliament. I challenged him and he said the list of members was not up to date. Today he claims he was in the USN under a “complicated” arrangement. What is on the menu for tomorrow Dave?
arnold ziffel on November 26, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Dave helped Neil Armstrong down from the LEM ladder
DarkCurrent on November 26, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Dave was the co-author of the Magna Carta.
mizflame98 on November 26, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Still at it. So it’s better to plunge America into the boiling water of socialism quickly, we should divide the GOP and help elect the socialists and we shouldn’t serve the constitution in the military unless we get whatever we want politically… When it comes to the end result; what’s the difference between Beck and Kos?
Either you love this country or you don’t. It isn’t conditional on getting what you want. That’s my main problem with Beck and the so called “conservatives” he represents. Loyalty isn’t something that you can turn off when you don’t get what you want. Rationalizing it as “going Galt” is just justifying being a spoiled brat throwing a tantrum at the expense of the United States.
Boxy_Brown on November 26, 2009 at 2:41 PM
Another person that catches Beck only in sound bytes and 5-minute youtube clips, eh?
mizflame98 on November 26, 2009 at 2:45 PM
Dave is actually Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna, rightful heir of the Russian Empire
DarkCurrent on November 26, 2009 at 2:45 PM
I thought Dave was Alger Hiss.
mizflame98 on November 26, 2009 at 2:54 PM
Don’t fool yourself about DC. As perceptive as a Naked Mole Rat.
Loxodonta on November 26, 2009 at 3:01 PM
That’s something we need to remember–
we don’t have to obeywe are required to disobey an unlawful order.That’s why
ifwhen MackDaddy tries to turn the troops against the citizens, we have nothing to worry about.Fine people like you (Thank you so much) will do what is right–defend the people against “enemies both foreign and domestic.”
Heck, we might even pull Sheetrocks scrawny ask out of the fire. mmmmm–maybe not. At least not until he’s “Seen The Light of Freedom.”
davidk on November 26, 2009 at 3:02 PM
Buster Brown, you are absolutely clueless.
davidk on November 26, 2009 at 3:04 PM
You are very perceptive.
Perceptron on November 26, 2009 at 3:06 PM
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davidk on November 26, 2009 at 3:07 PM
I’m just reporting what his wife and daughter told me.
Loxodonta on November 26, 2009 at 3:09 PM
I agree with Beck that, I can not encourage people to serve in the military while the nation is lead by the current crop of treasonous scum.
Those that choose to serve in times like this are true heros.
I disagree with him on the Butcher and Bolt method of dealing with Afghans, or any other people. Eventually they end up more mad than sore, and come at you again, (Think Palestine) unless you compleatly destoy them. (Think Carthage) I believe that you should go in hard and heavy terrify the hell out of them, and then give them another option in the form of a government that discourages suicidal attacks. (Nation Building)
Slowburn on November 26, 2009 at 3:24 PM
You are very perceptive.
How many input layer nodes do you have?
Perceptron on November 26, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Not me.
Not me.
This is America and people have every right to advise others all they want. If others, and it is up to them to decide and not anyone else, think their advise is poor they won’t take it.
MB4 on November 26, 2009 at 3:34 PM
This is self contradictory. It says that we should trust them but not trust them.
MB4 on November 26, 2009 at 3:39 PM
I was in the Army in 1970 until I got my discharge in 1976, I fought for my country and will fight for my country again if need be BUT, this new PC Army/Military bullshit doesn’t pass the smell test. Back in my day we were trained to do what ever we had to do to win. We didn’t have to worry about jack shit except killing the enemy any way we could. I wouldn’t put up with PC crap…….and I wouldn’t last 24hrs in this kind of environment, they would throw me out or lock my happy ass up because I will shot anything that moves that looks/acts like the enemy, and one more thing, collateral damage happens and I don’t have a problem with it. It is called WAR.
Happy Thanksgiving
Old Hippie Vet Vietnam 1971
Old Hippie Vet on November 26, 2009 at 3:39 PM
Another breathless fangirl who has a twitter page devoted to following his every word, eh? How old are you? 12? 13? Good of you to shift your fixation from David Cassady over to Glenn Beck…
Clever counterargument. I like how you delineated my points, deconstructed them and used evidence and logic to present a devastating and witty rebuttal.
It’s Thanksgiving Davidk, never mind the fact that there are people out risking their lives to keep the likes of Beck alive, safe and prosperous while he advocates making their job harder or imposable… Set that aside for another day you clever fellow. Just go on out and poke that termite mound with the stick or peel that banana with your feet and enjoy the holiday.
Boxy_Brown on November 26, 2009 at 3:44 PM
War is at best barbarism. Its glory is all moonshine. War is hell.
War is cruelty. There’s no use trying to reform it. The crueler it is, the sooner it will be over
In our Country one class of men makes war and leaves another to fight it out.
- William Tecumseh Sherman
MB4 on November 26, 2009 at 3:49 PM
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