Video: Beck discourages re-enlistment under Obama?
posted at 9:30 am on November 25, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
I don’t disagree with most of what Glenn Beck says in this piece. Courts-martial for Navy SEALS who allegedly gave a terrorist a fat lip while in custody? Does the Navy court-martial sailors who give each other fat lips? Would a SEAL stop at a fat lip if he actually got out of control? (I know a couple of SEALs, and I highly, highly doubt it.) Few would disagree with the thought that we should put the men and women who dedicate their lives to this country as our first priority, either, and that we should give them the resources to win fights when we put them in the middle of a war. But going on national television and advising them not to re-enlist? Beck does that here, and that’s one step too far (via The Right Scoop):
I’d have a problem with this advice if it was given privately, let alone to millions watching on television. Men and women enlist in the volunteer service to defend America, not to pick and choose which Commander in Chief they follow. They’re professionals who serve with honor regardless of the politics of the day. If they feel as though they’re not getting the support they need, they will know it better than those of us sitting stateside arguing over politics and policy. They will not need us to suggest that they bail out of the military if those are truly the conditions under which they serve.
Had someone like Keith Olbermann or Chris Matthews gone on the air in 2005-8 and told millions (well, thousands in that case) that men and women should refuse re-enlistment because George Bush had underresourced the fight in Iraq — which seems indisputable now, especially after the success of the surge — conservatives would have screamed from the rooftops, and been right to do so. Furthermore, the problem in Iraq of underresourcing and strategic drift and decline lasted more than twice as long then as Obama’s been in office now.
We’re a nation at war, with the best and most professional army in history. We should trust that they can calculate the benefits and drawbacks of reenlistment with much greater insight than civilians, and refrain from using that process for political purposes — and especially refrain from encouraging our best and brightest to leave when we need them the most.
Update: Yes, he really did tell his nephew not to re-enlist:









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Beck is slowly losing it.
vcferlita on November 25, 2009 at 9:34 AM
Are his 15 minutes not up yet?
Go RBNY on November 25, 2009 at 9:34 AM
I guess that is the leftist in him coming out. Gotta keep both sides happy.
tomas on November 25, 2009 at 9:34 AM
Ouch.
publiuspen on November 25, 2009 at 9:34 AM
Absolutely disgraceful. What an embarrassment.
Proud Rino on November 25, 2009 at 9:35 AM
Along with Bolton and granpa the right is falling into leftist traps and will be taken to task come election time. This stuff doesn’t go away…the media will run with it.
tomas on November 25, 2009 at 9:35 AM
You’re right Ed, Beck did go two far. But, if my son was 17, 18 right now I would tell him wait another 3 or 7 years. Just my opinion.
Caper29 on November 25, 2009 at 9:35 AM
I guess, but there weren’t any leftists in Beck’s position of influence who told soldiers not to re-enlist during the War on Terror.
Proud Rino on November 25, 2009 at 9:36 AM
Completely outta line. Do these bigmouths ever, ever think of the consquences if 80% of their listeners took their advice? Advice from someone who’s never served in uniform a day in his life?
Thank God the incredible United States military is what it is. Note to lardmouth: WE don’t serve the “President”, we serve the NATION.
So STFU.
tree hugging sister on November 25, 2009 at 9:36 AM
Great arguments, Ed. Moreover, I doubt that all these legal proceedings are decided by the CinC. He’s way up the command chain to be making these decisions. It is done by career officers, who do not change guard when a new president comes to the white house. So to blame these SEALs’ indictment on Obama is misguided.
The anger at the indictment is valid, but should be directed at the right target, not used as a club against Obama.
AlexB on November 25, 2009 at 9:37 AM
I served for 27 years under Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton and Bush II. Never – not once – did I take into consideration the politics of the temporary occupant of the White House when deciding whether or not to reenlist.
Sometimes, Beck needs to shut up.
flipflop on November 25, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Glenn Beck needs to shut up. This is not helpful, this is harmful to the country.
We have enough demogogues with Democrats, we don’t need third party demogogues now.
Mr. Joe on November 25, 2009 at 9:38 AM
Caper29..My son is 17 and I told him just that…
twiggman on November 25, 2009 at 9:38 AM
He is nothing more than a counterweight to the amazing messiah
bluegrass on November 25, 2009 at 9:38 AM
Almost as disgraceful as this.
A blast from the past!
Good Lt on November 25, 2009 at 9:38 AM
Wow. You think he’s right, but you think he’s wrong to say it out loud in private or on TV.
I’m not sure he’s right, but I still believe in freedom of speech.
Daggett on November 25, 2009 at 9:38 AM
Not a good thing at all. True emotional intelligence would prevent this type of misstep and crossing of the line.
singlemalt_18 on November 25, 2009 at 9:38 AM
Beck has gone over the top with this one (he’s doing that too frequently of late). One reason I went Tea Part rather than 9-12 group; stuff like this makes me glad I did.
Besides, considering the economy, is this really a good time not to reenlist?
michaelo on November 25, 2009 at 9:39 AM
Beck is Beck. Gotta take the bad with the good. Or not.
ElectricPhase on November 25, 2009 at 9:39 AM
I’m sorry Ed, but this quote is absolutely asinine. While our service men and women may have some of the best training in the world, they are human just like the rest of us. You don’t become some immortal superhuman with all mighty knowledge and power once you enlist and go through training, or even after you go through war.
Forget Beck, I’m starting to think Ed is losing it.
MobileVideoEngineer on November 25, 2009 at 9:39 AM
Servicemen and women can and will decide on their own enlistment/reenlistment for their own reasons. Obowma’s dithering and hatred for America may well be one of those reasons. It’s up to them. But I dare say damned few, if any, military members will make a decision that important because of what Glenn Beck uttered. Your concern that this may happen is evidence of ignorance of our military and lack of faith in their good sense.
SKYFOX on November 25, 2009 at 9:39 AM
I’m going to give Beck just a little bit longer before I give up on him. He’s pushing things a tad far into the weeds for my taste the last few days.
JamesLee on November 25, 2009 at 9:39 AM
Glenn Beck just jumped the shark. He is heading into that almost undiscovered country populated by media nutburgers of years past (Lou Dobbs is there).
Mr. Joe on November 25, 2009 at 9:39 AM
I don’t think his right to say it is being challenged.
Just his judgment. Which was bad.
Good Lt on November 25, 2009 at 9:40 AM
Reading this while thinking of a certain blogger. Hmmm…
(That’s all I’ll say about that.)
cs89 on November 25, 2009 at 9:40 AM
My Son just became a Marine. It doesnt matter who is sitting on Capitol Hill or in the whitehouse. Honor, Courage, and Commitment. Enough said.
JusDreamin on November 25, 2009 at 9:40 AM
I heard this yesterday and, I’m sorry to say, I had to side with Beck as he was just being honest. Thankfully, there are many of our young patriots who do not, and will not, agree. But I understand his point of view here. Our government is not backing our soldiers. That’s a BIG problem. That’s what we need to be discussing.
zeebeach on November 25, 2009 at 9:41 AM
Yep, that’s awful. Thankfully those idiots don’t have a platform to spew their hate on a daily basis, unlike Glenn Beck.
Proud Rino on November 25, 2009 at 9:41 AM
You must be so incredibly proud! OO-rah and Semper Fi!
tree hugging sister on November 25, 2009 at 9:41 AM
Glenn Beck: The Military Should Go Galt.
beatcanvas on November 25, 2009 at 9:42 AM
Exactly my thoughts.
froginthesky on November 25, 2009 at 9:42 AM
Hot Air is becoming a hallelujah for Obama site more every day
bluegrass on November 25, 2009 at 9:42 AM
It’s all going according to The Plan…
ninjapirate on November 25, 2009 at 9:42 AM
I applaud Glenn Beck for getting the 9/12 project going and for bringing the ACORN and Czar scandals into the open. That was great. But, he is slowly losing me. He is obsessed with writing books. Yesterday when he was supporting a VAT tax to pay off the deficit – that was the final straw. I turned the show off. In one breath he says “get out of debt” and in the next breath supporting more taxes on us. What’s wrong with him?
suzyk on November 25, 2009 at 9:43 AM
Oh, and by the way…Proud Rino – you suck.
zeebeach on November 25, 2009 at 9:43 AM
No, but having been in the service would give you better perspective on whether or not you ought to reenlist, and you certainly don’t need the help of Glenn Beck to make that decision.
Proud Rino on November 25, 2009 at 9:43 AM
but there weren’t any leftists in Beck’s position of influence who told soldiers not to re-enlist during the War on Terror.
Proud Rino on November 25, 2009 at 9:36 AM
So you think MOVEON wants General BETRAYUS to re-up?
They didn’t just say it, they took out an ad.
artist on November 25, 2009 at 9:43 AM
I’ve always been very pro-military, but I would NOT encourage anyone to enlist now. My bro retired (after 25 years and 2 tours in Iraq) just before the election, and I THANK GOD for that every single day. I just do not believe we have a CinC who cares one bit about soldiers — dead or alive. I think, in fact, he has a raging contempt for people in uniform. I don’t want anyone I love serving under such a man.
Rational Thought on November 25, 2009 at 9:43 AM
This is wrong, we are at war on two fronts and have massive unemployment. I can’t watch the video at work but if Mr. Beck said this as what he would do that is fine but as unsolicited advice I think with his forum it is inappropriate.
Cindy Munford on November 25, 2009 at 9:45 AM
I think he means that we should be replacing the income tax with the VAT. He’s not advocating putting the VAT on top of the income tax – no self respecting libertarian would ever suggest such asininity.
Good Lt on November 25, 2009 at 9:45 AM
I am working on getting in shape to be able to serve. I will raise my right hand and swear to defend the constitution no matter who sits in the oval office. Mr. Beck is wrong.
talking_mouse on November 25, 2009 at 9:45 AM
Why don’t conservatives support the troops?
e-pirate on November 25, 2009 at 9:46 AM
Moveon.org is not as influential as Glenn Beck, and although I happen to disagree with their feeling regarding General Petraeus, I don’t think there’s anything necessarily wrong with criticizing a military official. Encouraging solders not to enlist in a time of war? That’s un-American any way you slice it.
Proud Rino on November 25, 2009 at 9:46 AM
Beck’s right.
splink on November 25, 2009 at 9:47 AM
Sorry, but the final straw with me was his stupid stunt in Florida where he announced his future stunt to sell his book on the 47th anniversary of MLK Jr’s I have a dream speech…
He is totally full of himself…
ninjapirate on November 25, 2009 at 9:47 AM
Liberals, on the other hand, support the troops…in “progressive” ways.
Good Lt on November 25, 2009 at 9:47 AM
Proud Rino on November 25, 2009 at 9:41 AM
PimFortuynsGhost on November 25, 2009 at 9:47 AM
I stand with Beck. Anyone who doesn’t deserves more than a fat lip. Beta effin males! Lead, follow or get out of the way.
No surprise on your stand Ed. Get out of the way.
frizzbee on November 25, 2009 at 9:47 AM
Beck vs. Honor? Beck isn’t going to win that.
Spirit of 1776 on November 25, 2009 at 9:47 AM
Shut up, Glenn.
I hope some servicemen and/or their families show up for his “Bold & Fresh” Tour with O’Reilly and let him have it.
D2Boston on November 25, 2009 at 9:48 AM
What’s the difference between this and complaining when the left warns us that what we say may incite violence? They’re really only claiming we’re using bad judgment, right?
It would be bad enough if Ed had said, “He shouldn’t have said it because it is wrong.” IMO, the proper response is, “He was wrong, and here’s why I disagree.”
Sorry, but I’m just uncomfortable with the implicit message here — “He shouldn’t have said it, even though I think he’s right.”
Daggett on November 25, 2009 at 9:48 AM
I’ve always been very pro-military, but I would NOT encourage anyone to enlist now. My bro retired (after 25 years and 2 tours in Iraq) just before the election, and I THANK GOD for that every single day. I just do not believe we have a CinC who cares one bit about soldiers — dead or alive. I think, in fact, he has a raging contempt for people in uniform. I don’t want anyone I love serving under such a man.
Rational Thought on November 25, 2009 at 9:43 AM
here here!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bluegrass on November 25, 2009 at 9:48 AM
My thoughts also.
petefrt on November 25, 2009 at 9:49 AM
I dunno why anyone would want to serve under Obowa; however, that is their choice.
SouthernGent on November 25, 2009 at 9:49 AM
Well, actually, the broadcast nightly news shows gave them a platform every weeknight for the better part of Bush’s Presidency.
BPD on November 25, 2009 at 9:49 AM
Thank God for those like you. God bless.
zeebeach on November 25, 2009 at 9:49 AM
Well, I believe our soldiers will still reenlist no matter what Beck says. I heard that all branches of the military services have met their quota in enlistments, which usually go up during a bad economy….are they enlisting due to that or to their patriotism?
I say patriotism.
becki51758 on November 25, 2009 at 9:49 AM
Nope.
Proud Rino on November 25, 2009 at 9:50 AM
Let me see if I got this right Glenn, let’s not play politics with our military and until our military agrees with my political view you shouldn’t join? Isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black? Our young men and women serve their country with pride. President’s change as do politics. To be a good soldier you serve both equally. It’s a part of the love you have for your country and it’s right to move from one party to another in election cycles. I disdain the enlisted individuals that refused to go to Iraq because they didn’t support the war. The leftist media celebrated them during the Bush years and made them look like heroes for refusing to serve. What Glenn Beck proposes is no better and I disdian it equally.
MichiganMatt on November 25, 2009 at 9:51 AM
The implicit message was that he was wrong, and considering that he speaks to millions per week, that maybe he should have used some better judgement.
There are other ways to express your concern for the military, your disagreement with the current military policy and with the President’s policies (dithering, etc.), without openly discouraging troops from re-enlisting.
Good Lt on November 25, 2009 at 9:51 AM
Too bad the person who sits in the oval office is doing everything in their power to destroy the Constitution.
MobileVideoEngineer on November 25, 2009 at 9:51 AM
If you mean the ones that play dress-up, like the freak who hung with Cindy Sheehan, then probably.
Service people who COUNT? Like, REAL ONES? Not a chance. More of them will agree with Beck than don’t.
/vet
splink on November 25, 2009 at 9:51 AM
Yup.
Good Lt on November 25, 2009 at 9:51 AM
So how can you all complain about Obama’s “dithering” on the war, and the fact that he’s endangering lives by not acting quickly, but attack Beck because he suggest that people may want to rethink enlisting and possibly entering into a war that Obama isn’t serious about.
Narutoboy on November 25, 2009 at 9:51 AM
treasonous b*st*rd. period. end of story.
PackerBronco on November 25, 2009 at 9:51 AM
Interesting comment, considering almost every one in this thread is coming out against Beck.
BPD on November 25, 2009 at 9:52 AM
Ya, it was a dumb thing to say. Soldiers can make up their own minds. I always hate it when the left plays the “sending our children off to die” crap. Well, they aren’t children. So this would have to be in the same category.
However, Slick Willie was one of the biggest reasons I decided not to re-enlist (again) in the mid-90s (I later went back in after 9/11).
It wasn’t his politics, really, but his policies, all the base closings, the shrinking budget, the shrinking pay, the types of missions we were sent out on, and of course Somalia (I will never forget the way that jackass handled that before, during and after).
Of course, I didn’t need a talking head to tell me.
reaganaut on November 25, 2009 at 9:52 AM
It’s probably both. There are a lot of people who might have been inclined to serve, but had a good job or a good opportunity somewhere and didn’t want to walk away from it.
It’s a good decision to enlist right now if you’re a young person and you’re having a hard time finding a job, if you’re so inclined.
Proud Rino on November 25, 2009 at 9:52 AM
Glenn has said several times this year that he is going to say whe he thinks and he doesn’t care if it costs him everything, so I’m not sure where everyone’s surprise is coming from. If, after watching how Obama has dealt with Afghanistan and Ft. Hood, you could honestly say you would answer the question that Glenn’s nephew asked him differently, you are an idiot. Yes, I agree that normally it doesn’t matter who the commander in chief is, but if its a Carter or Obama, where the person is either a complete bumbling idiot, or actively trying to destroy American exceptionalism, there is a difference.
Now I guess I’ll go check out Huffpo and see if they can top HA’s Beck bashing.
Kataklysmic on November 25, 2009 at 9:52 AM
Our war on terror has become a joke.
It is not to be spoken
And we give rights to those who oppose and have sworn to kill us… You would compare what Beck says to what a less than a boy scout leader would say or do
bluegrass on November 25, 2009 at 9:53 AM
The thread is yours.
splink on November 25, 2009 at 9:53 AM
As a wise man once said: “If two people agree on everything, one of them is not thinking.”
I disagree with Beck’s advice to his nephew. It does not matter who the president is, the members of the military take a oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Now, of all times, we need our best in uniform.
AD
Very Proud Dad of Lcpl Andrew, USMC. Bravo Battery 1/11
JG27 AD on November 25, 2009 at 9:53 AM
Wow, really? OK, so find the evidence that those people had a nightly platform on network news broadcasts to encourage soldiers to shoot their commanding officers.
Until then…
Nope.
Proud Rino on November 25, 2009 at 9:53 AM
I would be interesting to see what the reenlistment loss rate is under bambam verses Bush.
grapeknutz on November 25, 2009 at 9:54 AM
I’m confused. I thought this was a thread about Beck. When did it change to a thread about Obama?
PappaMac on November 25, 2009 at 9:54 AM
Let Beck say whatever the hell he wants our people in uniform are not going to be swayed by him. They know full well that this president is a piece of sh1t, they despise him, but they serve the nation not Obama.
elduende on November 25, 2009 at 9:54 AM
Perhaps not, but defend Kerry and Murtha, in positions of HUGE influence, calling our troops murderers.
Patrick S on November 25, 2009 at 9:54 AM
ninjapirate on November 25, 2009 at 9:54 AM
They’re both cult leaders…
ninjapirate on November 25, 2009 at 9:55 AM
If their CinC isn’t, why should they? How CAN they?
splink on November 25, 2009 at 9:55 AM
Yeah, NORTHCOM might become depleted and who would kick down our doors then?
Just kidding…sorta.
I don’t think enough people who are most likely to enlist watch Beck anyway, or news shows in general, to really matter…besides, I don’t think what Beck has to say on the matter would have much effect on enlistments one way or another.
But, I think the Bush-Libtard analogy is a good one. This just gives the MSNBC types out there more ammo and junk we’ll probably hear about here and it obviously hurts Mr. Beck’s credibility somewhat even with Conservatives.
Dr. ZhivBlago on November 25, 2009 at 9:55 AM
Coincidentally, John “I served in Vietnam” Kerry was famous for telling a joke, decrying the scenario that young people who didn’t go to college or didn’t finish school would “end up in Iraq.”
That was a Democrat Presidential candidate just five years ago, for chrissakes.
The notion that Democrats here in this thread magically became pro-military and pro-war overnight simply because a hawk on Fox News Channel said something bombastic and stupid is laughable.
Good Lt on November 25, 2009 at 9:55 AM
Beck is day by day, jumping the shark.
Military personnel swear an oath to the Constitution of the United States, and the Nation.
I like a lot of what Beck has done the last several months, but lately he’s gone to places I cannot follow.
I’ll stick with Rush and Levin.
Brian1972 on November 25, 2009 at 9:56 AM
What did Beck say that was outlandish?
I am proud of our military and those who choose to serve.
But let’s be honest: if you had a son or daughter wanting to go to the military with Obama who is trying KSM here, wants to try CIA agents, trying the NAVY Seals, giving Hasan the benefit of the doubt, cutting military funding, dithering on what to do in Afghanistan for months, etc. wouldn’t you fear for your child too if he or she enlists?
Does Obama look to you like a serious Commander-in-Chief? He’s too busy passing porkulus packages, healthcare, cap-and-tax, playing golf, and partying. Obama even used the coffin of a dead soldier (albeit with permission from the parents) coming back from Afghanistan as a photo prop.
Bush never took our military in vain. He was a great Commander-in-Chief.
cubachi on November 25, 2009 at 9:56 AM
Perhaps, but its not like the military makes a ton of money. Plus, knowing we are fighting a hellish war in Afghanistan.
A buddy of mine has 2 boys who both went to West Point and are serving in Iraq. His oldest was to be sent home but he is insisting he be sent to Afghanistan. Even with having the CIC that he does.
becki51758 on November 25, 2009 at 9:56 AM
Consider passion for the young lives of those who serve and compare to the two thoughts discussed and if you have half a brain you will break your bow and stand up for what is right.
bluegrass on November 25, 2009 at 9:56 AM
Ok. He didn’t tell other people not to re enlist, he told his nephew he probable shouldn’t. But I think his reasoning is sound. You’re going into the military to fight. But the minute you do, some politician in DC might use you as a puppet for their re election– what’s the point. Do you fight? How do you fight?
Military does not equal police.
Some people will continue because of commitment. I understand that. But I’m willing to bet there were MANY who are considering it well before Beck even opened his mouth.
You guys can be mad at Beck, but your anger should be directed towards those in DC. It’s because of them that it has even come to this.
xax on November 25, 2009 at 9:57 AM
As the mom of a soldier, I’m so glad my son got to do his soldiering under President Bush, and I was completely thankful that he got out before Obama could inflict his damange on our armed forces, including putting them unnecessarily at risk by not having enough of them or not supplying them correctly.
Even under President Bush, we ended up sending many supplies for his MOS as a metalworker/welder/fabricator/mechanic – welding rods, helmets, gloves, safety glasses. I can’t begin to imagine what it’s like now.
Mr. Beck is correct. Don’t care what anyone else says. You might as well take a gun and point blank shoot your child in the chest to serve under this poor excuse of a CinC.
Wait until he’s out.
Mommynator on November 25, 2009 at 9:57 AM
I support Beck in this.
I spent 8 years in the Marines, and have ALWAYS encouraged young people to go into the military…for their sake and their country’s sake.
I am now vigorously talking young men & women OUT of going in. The abomination that is the current CinC is determined to throw their lives away, and/or prosecute them for doing their jobs!
Beck was making a point…and it needed to be made! Rudyard Kipling said it more eloquently in his poem “Tommy”, but the message is the same!
Justrand on November 25, 2009 at 9:57 AM
No one who commented on the last thread should comment on this thread. We need new faces. :)
Brian1972 on November 25, 2009 at 9:57 AM
First John Bolton now Glenn? Jeez, on a roll with the sniping this week I see.
Smiles on November 25, 2009 at 9:58 AM
I really don’t understand what is so shocking about what GB said. How could you in good conscious support the enlistment of any family during a wartime in which the CIC is playing politics with the soldiers’ lives.
This president is acting in a reckless manner, and is appearing to engage in a sort of Kamikaze philosophy with U.S. soldiers.
TampaBayBull on November 25, 2009 at 9:58 AM
I don’t think what they said was defensible, but they both criticized specific people for doing what they believed were bad things. That’s a lot different, and not nearly as offensive as telling soldiers in a time of war that they should not re-enlist.
Proud Rino on November 25, 2009 at 9:58 AM
Exactly.
Rational Thought on November 25, 2009 at 9:58 AM
I have mixed feelings about this. We need our soldiers. And I pray for them often.
But enlisting entails a certain degree of trust in the Commander-in-Chief. And our current one is not to be trusted.
WannabeAnglican on November 25, 2009 at 9:58 AM
Or Proud Rino.
donh525 on November 25, 2009 at 9:59 AM
splink said:
If their CinC isn’t, why should they? How CAN they?
JG27 AD on November 25, 2009 at 9:59 AM
Right. Voices like Code Pink, Cindy Sheehan, MoveOn.org, ANSWER, Kerry and Murtha worked overtime during the Bush years at making the military seem like an appealing and honorable line of work, didn’t they?
I don’t remember it either, but hey, fantasy is fun.
Good Lt on November 25, 2009 at 9:59 AM
Translation: He will say outrageous things without a second thought because he knows the crazier it sounds, the more attention and viewers it brings.
Glenn Beck is not helping us. He’s helping himself. Anyone who doesn’t see that needs to wake up.
Go RBNY on November 25, 2009 at 10:00 AM
“Had someone like Keith Olbermann or Chris Matthews gone on the air in 2005-8 and told millions (well, thousands in that case) that men and women should refuse re-enlistment because George Bush had underresourced the fight in Iraq — which seems indisputable now, especially after the success of the surge — conservatives would have screamed from the rooftops, and been right to do so.”
Sorry Ed, but this conservative would have agreed with Keith and Chris on that one had I known Iraq was under-sourced. Honesty is a distinguishing difference between liberals and conservatives. Don’t marginalize us by lumping us into the lying liberal class.
BTW, there’s no way that I would re-enlist in the military under Obama either.
orlandocajun on November 25, 2009 at 10:00 AM
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