Can someone explain to me why this SOB B. Hussein has to hold an event to announce his Afghanistan plan.

He’s delayed long enough… now we have to wait another 6 days so that he can get in front of the camera to tell us what he’s going to do? JUST F***ING DO IT!

RightWinged on November 25, 2009 at 2:01 PM

Obama….not going on primetime television?

….Surely you jest, sir!

/s

Now this comes out as, ” As I bow before you in servitude while showing presenting my ass to the world, rest assured America will be yours.”

Had to FIFM

Translated something along the lines of: “When the oil begins to smoke, fry no pork.”

Jugsy intones, “So, I ummm want you and your country to understand that I umm am making a promise. The buck stops umm here.”

This gets relayed as, ” I am a very smart leader to you. Each boy Deer must wee-wee in the room.”

And he continues, “America will not try to win uh in Afghanistan if errr you will join hands with me in friendship, and a few campaign dollars umm for my future reelection run. You know umm that I will uh bend over backwards to maintain peace between our two nations.”

Now this comes out as, ” As I bow before you in servitude while showing my ass to the world, rest assured America will be yours.”

So, now we can see why the world leaders all think he’s a buffoon, and why the right minded ones give him the shitty eye. All he knows he learned in Chicago, dally and dither and expect all to be forgiven because his intentions are good. After all the World is a big community to organize.

When he’s gotten his message out via envoys as to what he’s going to announce, it’s the poll from his cadre heads of state as they relay back what they want out of it. Then if the wind shifts, he has to choose another tack.

“You sir umm, are a lion!”
“I thought I saw a puty tat”.

Can you actually respond to it? Is it not true? Why? Because the situation is far more complex then you guys think! Some of us know better; those who could locate Afghanistan on the map before 9/11.

rightistliberal on November 25, 2009 at 2:21 PM

No, because as I said you’re a troll who isn’t worth wasting time on. We’ve all run across your type before, and after responding a couple of times, I’m done… not getting dragged in to your idiot fest. Why? Because what you do is get each point you raised shot down, then you just keep throwing more shiite against the wall, hoping something will stick, until we’re so far off point it’s irrelevant.

I will close in saying one thing, again, however… There are plenty of us who support the war… IF WE ARE IN IT TO WIN IT, but if we aren’t BRING THEM HOME. If we’re going to hand the country, or even parts of it, back to Islamists, any deaths or injuries going forward are pointless. Also, my point stands that it is disgusting that we have to wait a week just to watch The One make a prime time announcement. How about this POS just does his job and stays off of our TVs for a couple of minutes. He could just make the decision and perhaps issue a press release so that we at least know he’s done something… But this big announcement is ridiculous and disgusting. There are real lives on the line.

But by all means, get back to talking about Bush or finding Afghanistan on a map, or whatever other irrelevant crap you can come up with.

Yeah, if only George Bush could have won it in 7 years. Seven long years. And that incompetent buffoon could not win in Afghanistan.

rightistliberal on November 25, 2009 at 2:14 PM

Well, we were on the right track until the new ROE, and Oditterer’s ditthering…

What Failure in Afghanistan?
By Fareed Zakaria
Monday, October 12, 2009
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/11/AR2009101101552_pf.html

So it is an extremely big deal that NATO and Afghan troops announced today that they found 500,000 pounds of the stuff — along with 5,000 improvised bomb components — in a Kandahar compound.

Because the situation is far more complex then you guys think!

Some of us know better

; those who could locate Afghanistan on the map before 9/11.

rightistliberal on November 25, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Unfortunately, that doesn’t include yourself…
As far as trolls go, you are a -10.

Fifty-seven percent of Democrats want troop reductions, though, America to lose in Afghanistan, while only 29% will countenance any kind of increase support the troops at all.

Fixed.

Dark-Star on November 25, 2009 at 2:32 PM

I didn’t say we need a war tax. I said that war is already covered by the taxes we currently pay. Health and carbon are not and shouldn’t be.

Of course if most people were subject to a draft or were classified as high income it would be a very different poll result.

MB4 on November 25, 2009 at 2:40 PM

Yeah, but only the latter part is has any likelihood of happening…this administration wouldn’t touch the draft with a 39 & 1/2 foot pole!

Of course if most people were subject to a draft or were classified as high income it would be a very different poll result.

MB4 on November 25, 2009 at 2:40 PM

Just shut up and get in line.–BHO

Yep: Happy New Year.

1. Obama said the right message back in March.
2. Obama has failed to carry through on message.
3. All anticipate withdrawal of Western armed forces.
4. At this point, any “message of intent” from Chameleon Obama holds only metaphysical and transient validity.

I agree with Fred Thompson’s assessment discussed with his guest Pete Hegseth on today’s show, November 25 2009. They shared a mutually aligned understanding of the situation. Having read the EXIT STRATEGY writing on the wall, NATO and ally forces are departing, and Obama will simply be using American troops to fill in the vacating positions rather than strengthening troop level for a total increase in number.

“It didn’t have to be this way. It doesn’t even have to be this way. But that’s the way it is.” Given Obama’s decisions reflecting his antipathy both for our Military and his Constitutional official duties, without an about-face from Obama supported by his own “hold the course”, God help our troops because Obama won’t.

We face the reality of Obama’s DECISIONS, actions and inaction that have the cumulative effect leaving our magnificent military under Obama’s thumb-bus. Obama won’t lift a finger to defend our troops, rather, Obama initiates more PC abuse to hamper the effectiveness of our entire Military (Ft. Hood Hasan/”victim”, 9/11 terrorist trial in NYC CIVIL court, prosecute Navy Seals for the “war crime” of capturing the world’s most WANTED terrorist ALLEGEDLY punched in the nose ACCORDING TO THE TERRORIST). Defending terrorists while prosecuting Navy Seals shuts out any chance for positive troop morale while nailing Obama’s Afghan war effort shut to hide from view all those troops whom Obama left hanging in the wind. Leaving our troops under rules of engagement orders that put them in harms way without the “right” to fight back as warriors is unforgivable.

As it became more clear that the decision really meant a go/no go on the fight against al-Qaeda and the Taliban

Yet again, there are almost no AlQ in Afghanistan anymore and McChrystal doesn’t exactly seem too set on fighting the Taliban either.

We don’t win by destroying the Taliban. We don’t win by body count. We don’t win by the number of successful military raids or attacks, we win when the [Afghan] people decide we win.
- General Stanley “Bridge on the River Kwai” McChrystal

Gallup surveyed over 1,000 adults on the question, and surprisingly, almost a majority of them supported some form of troop increase for Afghanistan. In fact, combined with those who would leave troop levels static, it amounts to a mandate to stay and fight

How about this – Gallup surveyed over 1,000 adults on the question, and surprisingly, almost a majority of them supported some form of tax increase on the high income. In fact, combined with those who would leave tax levels on the high income static, it amounts to a mandate on tax increases on the high income.

Pretty much the same idea. Of course if most people were subject to a draft or were classified as high income it would be a very different poll result.

We should have left after about 15 months and tossed Musharraf the keys to the door; things couldn’t be any worse or better than they our now… except for fewer U.S. lives and dollars spent.

As for the poll; that’s one any President should ignore. The only needed plan here is one that weighs our country’s strategic interests against the human cost. And you don’t get that from a poll.

Christ, isn’t this what we castigated Clinton for- governance by poll?

And he announces that the announcement is coming a week in advance. As I said, JUST F***ING DO IT! Media, where are you? Even Fox!? 3-4 months after McCrystal (who Obama hand picked to run this “right” war), dead and injured piled up, and now we get to wait just 1 more week for The One to make a public “announcement”. WTF have you done, America?

RightWinged on November 25, 2009 at 2:12 PM

I understand. I was being sarcastic. I guess it’s difficult even for Fox News (I don’t watch much cable news) to simply get on tv and call the President a fool. I mean, that’s what most everyone is thinking, right? This guy Obama is a fool. His staff is full of fools who try to spin stuff so obviously false that it’s hard to comprehend. It’s like talking to a 3-year-old, or that one guy from your first college philosophy class, remember him? How do you argue with a guy who stands up and says, Hey, I’m a tree if I want to be a tree! How do you argue with a 3-year-old who simply disagrees with you as a point of rebellion.

Afghanistan can be won. But not by the current roe.

sonofdy on November 25, 2009 at 2:30 PM

Define ‘won’.

We’re attempting to impose a puppet president on a ‘nation’ that’s a crazy quilt of Stone Age tribes that have been murdering each other for centuries. Short of an occupation force on a scale we haven’t seen since WW2 with utterly iron-fist ROE’s, we have no hope of ‘winning’ with our current strategy.

If they’re going to be court martialled for giving a terrorist thug a fat lip, why send them?

Can you actually respond to it? Is it not true? Why? Because the situation is far more complex then you guys think! Some of us know better; those who could locate Afghanistan on the map before 9/11.

I know you never served in the military. Its not complicated at all. We have a saying, “Don’t start a fight you don’t want to finish.” Our guys know where the Taliban and AQ are, but they’re not being allowed to kill them, out of misplaced and stupid concern for their local enablers.

If one finds oneself in a war then one must destroy the enemy and their infrastructure as thoroughly and completely as possible, as quickly as possible.

Or they kill you.

Its not complicated at all.

And while I’m at it, I would suggest that we already have a war tax as waging wars is part of the job of our federal government. It’s the carbon tax and health tax that are not constitutionally mandated.

Connie on November 25, 2009 at 2:25 PM

Only if we deep-six another tax before we add a new one. Need I remind you that we’re in a recession?

Also, it should be only invoked after a declaration of war and only for a limited, specified time. Otherwise it’ll just be another straw on the camel’s back.

Dark-Star on November 25, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Afghanistan can be won. But not by the current roe.

rightistliberal on November 25, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Bush made his mistakes and paid the price. But Bush finaly won in Iraq.

Afganistan is obamas baby now. His actions so far have been devistating to the military here and on the ground.

Yeah, if only George Bush could have won it in 7 years. Seven long years. And that incompetent buffoon could not win in Afghanistan.

rightistliberal on November 25, 2009 at 2:14 PM

Afghanistan is where superpowers go to get their butts handed to them. We’re going to be no exception, since we foolishly opted to try ‘nation building’ with a populace that neither ‘gets’ democracy or equality or even freedom in general, and is more fragmented than a dropped jigsaw puzzle.

Bush was far from perfect, and the Afghan campaign was a disaster in the making in the first place. Most of the blame does not go to him.