FIRE: Those U-Minn teacher-program requisites have our attention

posted at 3:35 pm on November 25, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

And well they should.  The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, a free-speech activist group that fights political-correctness codes on college campuses, has found plenty of problems with the University of Minnesota’s new requisites for students in its education program.  And in fact, the problem is actually worse than first reported, as FIRE points out:

All signs are that the University of Minnesota-Twin Cities is planning to enforce a political litmus test for future teachers. The university’s College of Education and Human Development intends to mandate certain beliefs and values—”dispositions”—for future teachers. Yet that is not enough. It even intends to redesign its admissions process so that it screens out people with the wrong beliefs and values-those who it judges will not be able to be brought around to the correct beliefs and values of “cultural competence” even after remedial training.

Originally, Katherine Kersten reported that the “cultural competence” requirement would be applied to graduation, not admission.  However, FIRE took a closer look and discovered this:

In an October 28, 2009, proposal to the Minnesota-based Bush Foundation, the college promises that it will revise its curriculum toward the “development of cultural competence.” The college’s full articulation of this vague concept at present is just what the Race, Culture, Class, and Gender Task Group has determined it to be.

Not only that, however, the college in its proposal promises to start screening its applicants to make sure they have the proper “commitments” and “dispositions”:

Develop admission procedures to assess professional commitments.

We recognize that both academic preparation and particular dispositions or professional commitments are needed for effective teaching. [Emphasis in original.]

The college promises that it will begin using “predictive criteria” to make sure that future teachers will be able to develop an acceptable level of “cultural competence”-apparently, those who do not pass the political litmus test and seem too set in their beliefs will never get admitted. This is far worse than what Columbia Teachers College does with its own “dispositions” requirement, and far in excess of what the National Council for the Accreditation of Teacher Education (NCATE) has ever mandated.

This would hardly be constitutional at a private college — discriminating on the basis of political ideology. It certainly shouldn’t pass muster at a state-run university like the University of Minnesota.  UM apparently wants to choke off dissent at the entry point, and only produce an army of teachers who aren’t allowed to think for themselves or hold viewpoints that diverge from the groupthink.  That should be enough to shame the administrators at UM … but probably won’t.

FIRE says that the university “may well hear from [us] soon.” Actually, they’re hearing from FIRE today.  Adam Kissell sent the following letter to Robert Bruininks, the UM president:

FIRE is deeply concerned about new policies at University of Minnesota-Twin Cities proposed by the College of Education and Human Development. According to documents published by the college (see http://blog.lib.umn.edu/cehd/teri), it intends to mandate certain beliefs and values-”dispositions”-for future teachers. The college also intends to redesign its admissions process so that it screens out people with the “wrong” beliefs and values-those who either do not have sufficient “cultural competence” or those who the college judges will not be able to be converted to the “correct” beliefs and values even after remedial re-education. These intentions violate the freedom of conscience of the university’s students. As a public university bound by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, the university is both legally and morally obligated to uphold this fundamental right. …

FIRE understands that the college intends to consult with the university’s general counsel regarding its “dispositions assessment” in the summer of 2010. Let us urge you today not to wait until the college wastes valuable resources in taking several more months to plan such an unconstitutional and morally unconscionable set of demands on future teachers.

Indeed, the university’s general counsel should be asked to comment as soon as possible. If the Race, Culture, Class, and Gender Task Group achieves its stated goals, the result will be political and ideological screening of applicants, remedial re-education for those with the “wrong” views and values, and withholding of degrees from those upon whom the university’s political reeducation efforts proved ineffective. While the task group appears to have attempted to take matters of “social justice” to heart, it seems to have persuaded the College of Education and Human Development to adopt requirements that, by any non-totalitarian standard, are severely unjust and impermissibly intrude into matters of individual conscience. As these demands for “cultural competence” stand today, they are a severe affront to liberty and a disservice to the very ideal of a liberating education that appears to be behind the task group’s ideas. It is a shame that the College of Education and Human Development has embraced such an illiberal view of education.

Read the letter in full. We’ll stay abreast of this story as it develops.


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Academia is the GHQ of anti-American hate. Conservatives should focus their efforts on cleaning up that sewer and stop worrying about what Glenn Beck says.

Kalapana on November 25, 2009 at 3:41 PM

This is effin’ sick.

1921 C DRUM on November 25, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Gopher it!

WashJeff on November 25, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Good work. I really feel like childhood education is the one area conservatives should focus more on. The debates are often so easy to win (how can you be against school choice?) and the stakes are enormous. How many hours of your life have been spent in a classroom?

kc8ukw on November 25, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Monty Pythons Spanish Inquisition!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHGOl-jfUK0

canopfor on November 25, 2009 at 3:45 PM

UM apparently wants to choke off dissent at the entry point, and only produce an army of liberal teachers who aren’t allowed to think for themselves or hold viewpoints that diverge from the groupthink.

Edited for brevity.

Akzed on November 25, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Should help create jobs in the private school sector. Obama is a genious!

bloggless on November 25, 2009 at 3:49 PM

Over the past several years the Jesse Ventura virus must have spread like inexorably throughout the entire network of state agencies in MN. I’m guessing it’s contained in the ink they use to print the state paychecks.

SKYFOX on November 25, 2009 at 3:52 PM

What a complete lack of confidence these tools must have in their stupid Leftist ideology. They can’t abide the idea that there might be someone in their midst who will actually challenge it, so they seek to preemptively exclude anyone who could articulate any kind of rebuttal.

It’s the grownup’s equivalent of putting your hands over your ears and saying “LALALALALALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU!!!”

Cicero43 on November 25, 2009 at 3:52 PM

like inexorably = inexorably
Didn’t mean to write like my daughter speaks.

SKYFOX on November 25, 2009 at 3:53 PM

This is kind of unsuprising looking at the culture from a 50,000 foot level. The culture shifts back and forth conservative, liberal, and now back to conservative only this time the entrenched powers that be are going to screech and howl all the way. Schools will become more conservative over the next two generations it is inevitable. The reaction from the left will be to prevent this, the ways in which they do will become ever the more desperate, pathetic, and vicious. But like the invention of the printing press, the internet is disseminating information and knowledge to the masses that undermines statism and promotes liberty.

It’ll be fun to watch though. Makes me think doing a sociology paper on the journalism industry’s implosion would be fun in a few years.

Theworldisnotenough on November 25, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Liberals are a disgrace.

Bleeds Blue, Grow Fins, simplesimon: Comments?

BuckeyeSam on November 25, 2009 at 3:54 PM

It just had to happen in Minnesota.

*walks off dejectedly*

Bishop on November 25, 2009 at 3:54 PM

So,this is a political war build-up,that the Liberals are putting in place now,in setting up their perceived glorious
future rein!!

So,Conservatives need to get beach assault,and hold,in
the early child care and right through high school to prevent this Liberal brainwashing!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on November 25, 2009 at 3:54 PM

It’s clear that liberals understand that their ideology can’t pass muster with rational people. That is why they must silence their critics and pass their policies under the cover of darkness. As Rush says, they can’t win in the arena of ideas.

search4truth on November 25, 2009 at 3:55 PM

No one expects the minnesota inquisition!

faol on November 25, 2009 at 3:57 PM

It just had to happen in Minnesota.

*walks off dejectedly*

Bishop on November 25, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Bishop: D*mmit,say it ain’t so Joe!!:)

canopfor on November 25, 2009 at 4:02 PM

It’s everywhere, not just Minnesota. Check out this video produced by FIRE on the Missouri State University Inquisition. There are only a handful of colleges and universities in the country that aren’t simularly corrupted. And yes, that includes your local Cow College. When are conservatives going to take this as deadly serious as it is?

Kalapana on November 25, 2009 at 4:03 PM

It’s apparent that Liberals are capable of doing anything that we’re willing to let them get away with. I think I see sometimes here recently, them dropping any premise of tolerance to our beliefs.

hawkdriver on November 25, 2009 at 4:06 PM

Velcome to zee future,its 1984!!!!

canopfor on November 25, 2009 at 4:06 PM

All signs are that the University of Minnesota-Twin Cities is planning to enforce a political litmus test for future teachers. The university’s College of Education and Human Development intends to mandate certain beliefs and values—”dispositions”—for future teachers. Yet that is not enough. It even intends to redesign its admissions process so that it screens out people with the wrong beliefs and values-those who it judges will not be able to be brought around to the correct beliefs and values of “cultural competence” even after remedial training.

U.S.S.R., right here in U.S. Amerika

Schadenfreude on November 25, 2009 at 4:06 PM

Any state that has a goofball as a senator deserves this.

Schadenfreude on November 25, 2009 at 4:07 PM

Fetch the Comfy Pillow.

pseudonominus on November 25, 2009 at 4:08 PM

I thought of this group yesterday as I was reading your earlier repot–I couldn’t remember the name “FIRE”–but I just KNEW they would get right on it! Thank God, we have a group advocating for our constitutional rights!

lovingmyUSA on November 25, 2009 at 4:09 PM

It’s apparent that Liberals are capable of doing anything that we’re willing to let them get away with. I think I see sometimes here recently, them dropping any premise of tolerance to our beliefs.

hawkdriver on November 25, 2009 at 4:06 PM

hawkdriver: Thanks for straightening out rightistliberal
early this morning!!:)

And tolerance,needs to be a war on Political
Correctness,its turned in a monster!

How’s the Afghan theatre going Hawk!!:)

canopfor on November 25, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Whew…. at least we have the ACLU around to stand up for this type of Fascism. I was beginning to get worried.

Oh.. wait!

Seven Percent Solution on November 25, 2009 at 4:13 PM

How’s the Afghan theatre going Hawk!!:)

canopfor on November 25, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Not bad. Heading out in about a half hour to check it out. I’ll let you know after we’re done.

hawkdriver on November 25, 2009 at 4:14 PM

Illinois may be the most corrupt, racist state in the country, Ed, but Minnesota has got to be in the top five for idiotic liberal government. Your girls remind me of California, only cold and white.

Jaibones on November 25, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Wouldn’t it be easier (and more honest) for the university to require all potential students to provide a voter’s registration card proving they are registered as a member of the Democrat, Green, or Communist Party before they are admitted?

AaronGuzman on November 25, 2009 at 4:17 PM

How’s the Afghan theatre going Hawk!!:)

canopfor on November 25, 2009 at 4:10 PM
Not bad. Heading out in about a half hour to check it out. I’ll let you know after we’re done.

hawkdriver on November 25, 2009 at 4:14 PM

hawkdriver: Be careful as always,hey,use a Hellfire,,don`t
want a fat lip incident!(I kid):)

canopfor on November 25, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Education an the social sciences have been compromised by this kind of virulent PC for years. The Diversity Police are entrenched at the state level as well, requiring teachers, counselors, social workers etc to fork over big bucks for CEU’s in diversityism just to maintain their jobs.

Most folks don’t complain, because to do so is professional death. They quietly go through the motions with grit teeth and try to keep a low profile.

It’s creepy.

Bruno Strozek on November 25, 2009 at 4:19 PM

Well done, but one quibble with FIRE:

While the task group appears to have attempted to take matters of “social justice” to heart, it seems to have persuaded the College of Education and Human Development to adopt requirements that, by any non-totalitarian standard, are severely unjust and impermissibly intrude into matters of individual conscience

But that’s what “Social Justice” is! It is a Marxist tenet which elevates people based on gender, race, sex, et cetera, not based on the content of their character, abilities, or “individual conscience” but as a cure to “white privilege”. And of course this “thinking” is what Bill Ayers and even groups like Catholic Charities USA promotes.

Buy Danish on November 25, 2009 at 4:22 PM

It’s everywhere, not just Minnesota. Check out this video produced by FIRE on the Missouri State University Inquisition.

Kalapana on November 25, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Kalapana: Thats sick,the teachers should lose their
certificates and fired!!:)

canopfor on November 25, 2009 at 4:26 PM

Oops,forgot,the be,(and be fired).

canopfor on November 25, 2009 at 4:27 PM

Most folks don’t complain, because to do so is professional death. They quietly go through the motions with grit teeth and try to keep a low profile.

It’s creepy.

Bruno Strozek on November 25, 2009 at 4:19 PM

Absolutely. While their kids are being brainwashed, conservatives worry about the MSM. Hey, The media clowns are products of the so-called journalism schools. Liberal and leftist assumptions dominate the humanities and social sciences everywhere. It has moved into K-12. For most high school students, American history is all about oppression of the minority group du jour. Unless they get it from home, young people are being stripped of their history.

Kalapana on November 25, 2009 at 4:31 PM

So instead of wasting the leftist professors’ valuable time by having to flunk all conservatives they’ll just ban them from college. Do these Minnesota leftists realize you can’t indoctrinate kids if you don’t let them into your classroom? They’ve grown to the point of becoming so insular they’re eating themselves.

chicagojedi on November 25, 2009 at 4:33 PM

canopfor on November 25, 2009 at 4:26 PM

Even in the reddest of red states, the propaganda mills are at work on the tax payers dime. Conservatives should stop kidding themselves that their college or university is any better than UM.

Kalapana on November 25, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Perhaps the U-Minn hierarchy should designate a position for “Der Fuhrer”.

Exit Question: Will those with ‘the wrong beliefs’ be required to wear some sort of insignia on their outer garment?

GarandFan on November 25, 2009 at 4:43 PM

As an almuni – I’m saddened but not surprised.

Conservatism is not exactly welcome on campus. Definitely not in any class I took.

gophergirl on November 25, 2009 at 4:44 PM

almuni = alumni

Bad spelling sorry!

gophergirl on November 25, 2009 at 4:45 PM

Minnesota? isn’t that in Canada or somewhere? Do they still talk funny up there?

E9RET on November 25, 2009 at 4:45 PM

Bleeds Blue, Grow Fins, simplesimon: Comments?

BuckeyeSam on November 25, 2009 at 3:54 PM

Oh Good Lord, please not.

Must we now INVITE them to ruin threads?

BlueStateBilly on November 25, 2009 at 4:48 PM

What an Obamanation!

But the answer’s easy. When Republicans sweep back into power in 2010, they just need to apply ideological affrimative action to college and university faculty. That would either doom most non-tenured faculty, or quickly convert them (as in Paul’s epiphany) to conservatism (since now their ox would be being gored).

Dr. Charles G. Waugh on November 25, 2009 at 4:49 PM

“Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!”

Thanks, libs, for making free thought a crime as long as it doesn’t agree with your mantra…

Khun Joe on November 25, 2009 at 4:49 PM

I don’t see the problem here. Without UM’s commitment to having prospective teachers declare their dispositions or professional commitments how else will the racist, sexist, homophobic State of Minnesota ever be cleansed?

I have never met a Vikings or Twins fan without an ugly, hateful mind and its about damn time they were made right. What a relief to see the forward thinking academics of the University of Minnesota are using the taxpayers’ money wisely and nipping this heinous problem in the bud.

miles on November 25, 2009 at 4:52 PM

As an almuni alumnus – I’m saddened but not surprised.

Conservatism is not exactly welcome on campus. Definitely not in any class I took.

gophergirl on November 25, 2009 at 4:44 PM

FIFY…

Khun Joe on November 25, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Exit Question: Will those with ‘the wrong beliefs’ be required to wear some sort of insignia on their outer garment?

GarandFan on November 25, 2009 at 4:43 PM
>>>>

They won’t be allowed to wear the mark of the Beast.

justincase on November 25, 2009 at 4:54 PM

I wonder how the wise latina will vote on this one when it hits SCOTUS.

GinaE on November 25, 2009 at 4:55 PM

I have never met a Vikings or Twins fan without an ugly, hateful mind

miles on November 25, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Excuse me?

gophergirl on November 25, 2009 at 5:01 PM

I have known that college professors were generally flaming liberals for 20 years, but suddenly we see the threat for what it really is about. The stage is set to take this country to a level of socialism that will change us forever and NOT in a good way.
Conservatives have to stand up and be counted. No more donations to those good causes without intense scrutiny and lets start voting out those in office that freely spend out money on pork supporting some of these liberals!

SgtRed on November 25, 2009 at 5:15 PM

This has been going on for ages in secretive ways. I remember when Head Start began showing it’s ugly head back in the 60′s. We had a director that was very against the children learning the Pledge of Allegiance. Although, the school did it every morning, summer school didn’t bother. She said the kids don’t know what they are saying anyway. They were 4-5 years old. Right straight from the Early Childhood director at SUNY. This is the first time I actually remember direct assualts in Early Childhood Ed.
In the 70′s it was taking out the Christmas Carols in music class and the Christmas program. Mandatory teaching of Black History. This brought the mistaken idea that only Blacks have history.
80′s brought us winter vacation instead of Christmas vacation and spring break instead of Easter vacation.
Then Bill Ayers turns out to be a professor of education not English as Obama asserted. Multiculturalism is thy name. Political correctness and then revisionist history. All attributed to the Education Dept. of almost every university.

BetseyRoss on November 25, 2009 at 5:15 PM

I guess I feel somewhat blessed that my educational education was pretty much politically neutral at Dickinson State in Dickinson ND where they have IMO a pretty decent teacher’s program.
However, I have noticed they are really ratcheting up the ‘diversity’ on campus by hauling in tons of overseas students so that they can appear multicultural.
I wonder, does a university get more govt $$ when they have a more multicultural campus?
I bet there’s something to that.
I really hate the politics of education.
I wish the bastards would just let me teach my subject matter & stop trying to make me parent someone’s else’s kid.
If you don’t want to parent your own damned kids people, then move to Cuba or China.

Badger40 on November 25, 2009 at 5:22 PM

Is it time yet to take up arms to remove the bastards from power? They poison the minds of our children against us. They use the freedom our blood bought against us. If they get one dollar of tax money, that should be stopped. A law suit should be filed this has nothing to do with academic freedom. It is tyrany.

Zelsdorf Ragshaft on November 25, 2009 at 5:26 PM

I remember when Head Start began showing it’s ugly head back in the 60’s.
BetseyRoss on November 25, 2009 at 5:15 PM

Government daycare. That’s what Head Start is.

Save yourself some grief, people.
Keep your kids at home & teach them yourself for as long as you can.
But don’t sit back & do nothing to help your children learn & then blame it on us teachers that your kids can’t do the math, etc.
Many teachers suck, it’s true.
But this attitude many parents have that if their kids aren’t learning it’s bcs of the teacher is mostly crap.
Many kids aren’t learning bcs parents are letting the govt raise their kids.
I wish I could make $$ home schooling other people’s kids in science.
I’d quit this public screwl gig in a NY minute.

Badger40 on November 25, 2009 at 5:31 PM

Watch: How To Brainwash A Nation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeMZGGQ0ERk

In the early 80′s, an ex-KGB agent named Yuri Bezmenov did a series of interviews/lectures in the U.S. where he predicted that radical 60′s liberals would “fundamentally transform” the U.S. into a Marxist state through a process called Ideological Subversion. One of their main targets was and is our schools.

Watch this short excerpt of the interview he did with G. Edward Griffin. You will get sick to your stomach when you hear him describe with exact precision how we would get to such a sorry state in our nation’s history (IE: where we are today). It is a play-by-play of the last 50 years, and it happened right under our noses:

Please share this with friends and family. It has over 100,000 views, but needs to go mainstream and open even more people’s eyes to the true evil intent of all things labeled “social justice”.

painesright on November 25, 2009 at 5:41 PM

Badger40 on November 25, 2009 at 5:22 PM

They’re getting out of state tuition bucks from the international students. Multicultural is the official religion of academia. Even engineering students have their identity politics groups. And of course, Americans are supposed to walk around on egg-shells lest the foreigners get their feelings hurt. There is no free speech on American campuses.

Kalapana on November 25, 2009 at 5:41 PM

Did I just step out a time machine? I turned 63 last week. I graduated from high school in 1964. Many of the teachers in my high school experience were college graduates from the 1950′s. And they were leftists. I recall an English teacher in 1962 bringing in one of her friends to sing folk songs about oppressed workers and crapped-on illegal aliens. All of our parents were WW II and Depression survivors, so when we went home and told our parents, she was reprimanded but that was the end of it.

When my daughter started school I sacrificed to put her in a private, religious school. (For those concerned, the religion was Christian) However. For all the sacrifice, both Christian and Roman Catholic schools use THE SAME TEXT BOOKS USED IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS. If they don’t, the state education system will not accredit the school. If you want an eye-opening exercise, get your hands on a high-school history text. World or American history. Spend a night or two reading it and get back to me with your thoughts.

My daughter was probably in the 7th or 8th grade and been in private schools since she started school. One Monday afternoon my wife was about to throw away the previous days newspaper. I told her not to since it had a lengthy commentary I wanted to read. I said;

“Don’t throw that out. I want to read that piece by Soljenitsin.”

My daughter said;

“WHO?”

I opened my mouth to respond when my wife stopped me. She just turned to our daughter and said;

“Honey, who was Rosa Parks?”

At that point my daughter went into a long speech about a poor black woman who was abused and mis-treated. But Parks was brave and stood up to “The Man”. The typical “Black History” version of Ms. Park’s life. Nothing about NAACP membership or political activism. Nothing but the spoon-fed NAACP boilerplate.

Learn what private schools are using to indoctrinate your children with before you throw good money after bad.

oldleprechaun on November 25, 2009 at 5:48 PM

The cancer of socialism/communism.

Johan Klaus on November 25, 2009 at 5:55 PM

Let them. When too few ideologically pure students can get in, then we just shut the damn placed down and let those politically correct professors go without work. I think that’s fair for these Orwellian Thought Police.

englishqueen01 on November 25, 2009 at 5:55 PM

YOU GO FIRE!

I love these people. They were the ones that called out the University of Delaware on their indoctrination program and got them to cancel it.

Joe Caps on November 25, 2009 at 6:05 PM

Is it possible that what they actually mean is no islamic teachings?

Since the vast majority of conservative thought does not even consider Race, Culture, Class, or Gender it seems there is likely a different objective here.

Meanwhile, vigilance is always a good idea!

Freddy on November 25, 2009 at 6:07 PM

Monty Pythons Spanish Inquisition!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHGOl-jfUK0

canopfor on November 25, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Leave it to the humor-challenged Liberals to take Monty Python seriously!

landlines on November 25, 2009 at 6:38 PM

They don’t seem to have outlined anything specific. Sounds like they’re going to start screening for apps with some community service background. Either way they don’t say for sure what will count as an acceptable commitment and what wont. What if its just ‘spent time in boy scouts’?

ernesto on November 25, 2009 at 6:43 PM

This is what happens when governments pay the freight–they start messing with things and gradually create a huge mess. Surprise! Surprise!

jeanie on November 25, 2009 at 6:45 PM

They don’t seem to have outlined anything specific. Sounds like they’re going to start screening for apps with some community service background. Either way they don’t say for sure what will count as an acceptable commitment and what wont. What if its just ’spent time in boy scouts’?

ernesto on November 25, 2009 at 6:43 PM

Boy Scouts are definitely out — they don’t allow gays to be Scoutmasters.

That said, any community service requirement is too much. Your job should not depend on giving something for free to anyone. That’s part of religion/morality, and nobody should be tested on their religion.

unclesmrgol on November 25, 2009 at 6:51 PM

There are Times when I feel we are living in 1930′s Germany.

Irenaeus on November 25, 2009 at 6:54 PM

That said, any community service requirement is too much. Your job should not depend on giving something for free to anyone. That’s part of religion/morality, and nobody should be tested on their religion.

unclesmrgol on November 25, 2009 at 6:51 PM

Its not your job, its your education. And extra curriculars are already on the list of criteria for many institutions. Granted, this could be used in ways that we may not like, but so far there is no indication of anything overtly nefarious.

ernesto on November 25, 2009 at 6:59 PM

George Orwell was a frickin’ genius.

I continue to be amazed at how well he had all this pegged.

Hawkins1701 on November 25, 2009 at 7:33 PM

FIGHT THE ESTABLISHMENT!! ummm…that is, until YOU become the Establishment.

TugboatPhil on November 25, 2009 at 7:42 PM

What’s up with this thread, EM?
I can seem to get previous postings to show, so if I’ve quad posted, well, at least they’re all edited posts!!

OkieDoc on November 25, 2009 at 9:51 PM

I am a Gopher, BS from there ’75-’78.

It’s a sad day to see my Alma mater move

from “freedom of expression” to overt

thought control.

There is good stuff still coming out of the

U. Just not this, not now. We were a good

university and the ‘Big Ten’ had cheap

beer!

Back when (in the day)-
Tony Dungy was the team QB. Kevin McHail

was our starting roundball forward and

everybody knows about Herb Brooks.

And then there was me. LOL

So, all alumni need to phone C. Allen or whomever they can

reach on the Board of Regents… and pitch

a huge bitch. Withdraw your support (or

threaten to) on the spot.

OkieDoc on November 25, 2009 at 9:51 PM

ooooooppps =can’t

OkieDoc on November 25, 2009 at 9:52 PM

Every time Hotair wants to post about another Frum or Brooks, or poll raining on my Palin gives me hope parade, do your site traffic/seriousness of purpose good and link a FIRE story instead. Ultimately, how fee speech is handled on college campuses has more impact on our nation and the conservative movement than what Beltway elites are pushing to preserve their pay-to-play infrastructure led by Newt.

FeFe on November 25, 2009 at 9:59 PM

Every time Hotair wants to post about another Frum or Brooks, or poll raining on my Palin gives me hope parade, do your site traffic/seriousness of purpose good and link a FIRE story instead. Ultimately, how fee speech is handled on college campuses has more impact on our nation and the conservative movement than what Beltway elites are pushing to preserve their pay-to-play infrastructure led by Newt.

FeFe on November 25, 2009 at 9:59 PM

To think all this time a hooka bowl only had tobacky in it.

OkieDoc on November 25, 2009 at 10:29 PM

Great slogan for Today’s American Right:

WE DEMAND CULTURAL INCOMPETENCE!

Seriously, what’s this fuss about wanting teachers with a good disposition? You’re trying to define “disposition” as “certain beliefs and values”. But that’s not the definition. For your edification:

dis⋅po⋅si⋅tion  /ˌdɪspəˈzɪʃən/

–noun

1) the predominant or prevailing tendency of one’s spirits; natural mental and emotional outlook or mood; characteristic attitude

People of all political stripes can have a good disposition. Or a bad one. Liberal misanthropes have to worry about this more than cheery conservatives. (though conservative misanthropes will have more to worry about than cheery liberals)

Oh well, go ahead and waste your energy on this. Have a ball!

orange on November 25, 2009 at 10:40 PM

Oh well, go ahead and waste your energy on this. Have a ball!

orange on November 25, 2009 at 10:40 PM

Eat me.

OkieDoc on November 25, 2009 at 10:45 PM

My apologies to all,
I do not intend to be crass, unintentionally offensive or renegade.
Quite the opposite.
My obscurities are thus revealed:

“What you do speaks so loud that I cannot hear what you say.” –Ralph Waldo Emerson

I know, right? EAT ME.

OkieDoc on November 25, 2009 at 10:58 PM

No one expects the Progressive Inquisition; The Progressive Inquisition’s 3 main weapons are; fear, lies, lies fear and a fanatical devotion to Obama.

nelsonknows on November 26, 2009 at 3:23 AM

Great slogan for Today’s American Right Left:

WE DEMAND TOTAL CONFORMITY TO STATE-SANCTIONED IDEOLOGY.

Go ahead, orange, admit it: you’re not fooling anyone here. I suggest that you study history to further your goals. In the Soviet Union “culteral competence” demanded strict adherence to the Soviet political system and social order.

The Soviet elites imposed uniformity by suppressing Антисоветская агитация и пропаганда – counterrevolutionary agitation. Propaganda or agitation with the purpose of undermining Soviet ideology was a criminal offense, as was spreading “slanderous fabrications” critical of the Soviet political and social system. Literature with anti-Soviet content was forbidden. Punishments were grave.

Insist all you want to that the Minnesota plan is something different. Do I look like Mrs. Obama?

Venusian Visitor on November 26, 2009 at 3:44 AM

orange on November 25, 2009 at 10:40 PM

If the Left used language honestly, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. No matter what ideologically and morally bankrupt behavior or policy they are pushing, the Left consistently uses words and phrases that sound innocent or noble, because they believe what they are doing will then either go unnoticed or be difficult to oppose. “Do you mean you don’t believe in (social) justice?” “What’s this fuss about wanting teachers with a good disposition?” Anyone who opposes them is either an evil, hateful, something-phobe, or a paranoid rube who needs someone to snarkily provide a dictionary definition for him. Those tactics may work with some, but most people on this site refuse to be cowed by yet another version of “Shut up.”

DrMagnolias on November 26, 2009 at 5:21 AM

This would hardly be constitutional at a private college — discriminating on the basis of political ideology.

That is interesting. What part of the Constitution deals with the political litmus test at private colleges?

rhodeymark on November 26, 2009 at 8:47 AM

This would hardly be constitutional at a private college — discriminating on the basis of political ideology.

That is interesting. What part of the Constitution deals with the political litmus test at private colleges?

My thought exactly. Is Hillsdale open to legal challenge then?

YehuditTX on November 26, 2009 at 9:46 AM

Aarrrrgggghhhhhh!!!

remedial training

PaddyJ on November 26, 2009 at 2:08 PM

http://www.veteranoutrage.com

Told ya..

Just waiting for the new pelosi, obama and democrats
concentration camps to begin being built..

Dont laugh they are already FORCING ALL
americans with no education if
you dont BELIVE The RIGHT THINGS..

This is straight out of the book of Revelation..

Its comming folks ..

and the democrats and liberals will soon be jailing
all of YOU..

veteranoutrage on November 26, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Its not your job, its your education. And extra curriculars are already on the list of criteria for many institutions. Granted, this could be used in ways that we may not like, but so far there is no indication of anything overtly nefarious.

ernesto on November 25, 2009 at 6:59 PM

They (extracurriculars) shouldn’t be. My kids’ high school had a web site (since taken down) which offered help on college admissions essays. The essential things to put into such an essay was one’s ethnicity if one were a member of a protected class, stories of how one overcame adversity (with many examples of adversity perpetrated upon the student by other students illustrated), stories of poorness.

The site indicated that, in the eyes of some admissions people, certain extra-curricular activities are worth far more than others — membership in La Raza being worth far more, for example, than membership in Key Club, even if the people of La Raza did not much more than belong to the club (and occasionally cause school lockdowns when they tussled with the BSU), while the Key Clubbers, a diverse group, tutored kids and planted trees, etc.

Extra-curricular activities do indeed communicate a code, and that code has nothing to do with your education, but everything to do with telling the college admissions processors that you deserve extra points for things totally unrelated to what you will bring to their college from a scholastic standpoint.

Thanks but no thanks. Seen it. Even experienced it personally. Again, no thanks. The SATs and your normalized GPA should be sufficient. [How I feel about AP stuff is a whole 'nuther comment.]

unclesmrgol on November 26, 2009 at 11:03 PM

Liberalism has always been a form of Communism.

The Reds never went away, they just went Green (and to Academia)

scotash on November 27, 2009 at 12:56 AM

Most of these liberal, self-styled, intellectual, effete, academics would never make it outside of their cloistered halls. We all know that. Why do we put any credence in their opinions? Or, why do we even give them the time of day. Shameful, how our taxpayer supported universities have rotted. I blame the leftist liberals, and the conservatives that have been asleep for the last 20 years.

ultracon on November 27, 2009 at 9:40 AM

ultracon on November 27, 2009 at 9:40 AM

Unfortunately, although we can refuse to put credence in the opinions of liberal academics, young people do pay attention. After all, these people have more years of study, degrees, and therefore more assumed knowledge–and they are being paid for all of them. Young people should be able to count on the truth–it is outrageous that they have to be constantly on guard against bad thinking in college. This is why I’m constantly harping on the need to support true conservative intellectuals–as long as the misguided notions exist that everyone must go to college, conservatives cannot simply walk away from the academy.

DrMagnolias on November 27, 2009 at 3:10 PM

[C]onservatives cannot simply walk away from the academy.

DrMagnolias on November 27, 2009 at 3:10 PM

No indeed. But they can’t make much headway as a minority opposed by entrenched radicals for whom the result justifies the means.

We need fundamental, transformational change in our public education system. That’s where the battle is.

Venusian Visitor on November 27, 2009 at 6:49 PM

Oh noes! PZ Myers knows about us and our insanity!

jinx_mchue on December 1, 2009 at 8:53 AM