Video: Hey, who’s up for a screaming match over global warming?
posted at 6:41 pm on November 24, 2009 by Allahpundit
By popular request, a “festive” exchange from this afternoon’s Cavuto in honor of WaPo’s new poll showing growing skepticism about the topic du jour. Growing, that is, but still mild: Fully 72 percent believe in global warming (down from 80 percent last year), including 71 percent of independents. Even a majority of Republicans believe in it, although that percentage has dipped from 76 percent all the way down to 54. Imagine what the numbers would look like if television news hadn’t completely blacked out news of Climategate.
Incidentally, am I hallucinating or did Ed Begley choose this week of all weeks to tout the virtues of peer-reviewed research? Because, dude:
But what stood out most for me was extensive evidence of the hijacking of the “peer review” process to enforce global warming dogma. Peer review is the practice of subjecting scientific papers to review by other scientists with relevant expertise before they can be published in professional journals. The idea is to weed out research with obvious flaws or weak arguments, but there is a clear danger that such a process will simply reinforce groupthink. If it is corrupted, peer review can be a mechanism for an entrenched establishment to exclude legitimate challenges by simply refusing to give critics a hearing.
And that is precisely what we find.
In response to an article challenging global warming that was published in the journal Climate Research, CRU head Phil Jones complains that the journal needs to “rid themselves of this troublesome editor”-hopefully not through the same means used by Henry II’s knights. Michael Mann replies:
I think we have to stop considering “Climate Research” as a legitimate peer-reviewed journal. Perhaps we should encourage our colleagues in the climate research community to no longer submit to, or cite papers in, this journal.
Note the circular logic employed here. Skepticism about global warming is wrong because it is not supported by scientific articles in “legitimate peer-reviewed journals.” But if a journal actually publishes such an article, then it is by definition not “legitimate.”
Shockingly, the Climategate e-mails aren’t even a factor in this discussion. No matter. Let the angry finger-jabbing begin!
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MB4 on November 24, 2009 at 8:03 PM
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The Goracle tells me so.
Though I am no longer young,
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Go with Him the extra carbon credit pile.
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The Goracle tells me so.
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MB4 on November 24, 2009 at 8:06 PM
Hundreds of years ago, before there was Al Gore, adults, some crazy, some stupid, some just mean, liked to scare gullible little children with stories of goblins, witches, vampires, werewolves and other monsters. Sure seems like some adults have regressed back to the Dark Ages.
MB4 on November 24, 2009 at 8:08 PM
Al Gore converted simple changes in the weather into an engine for enslaving mankind to filch wealth and power to himself. He, in fact, constitutes the real Anti-Scientist.
- Thomas Jefferson paraphrased
MB4 on November 24, 2009 at 8:09 PM
Al Gore and his followers will not be pleased
Geophysicist Phil Chapman, the first Australian to become an astronaut with NASA, said pictures from the US Solar and Heliospheric Observatory also show that there are currently no spots on the sun. He also noted that the world cooled quickly between January last year and January this year, by about 0.7C.
“This is the fastest temperature change in the instrumental record, and it puts us back to where we were in 1930,” Dr Chapman noted in The Australian recently.
Now this 11-year low in Sunspot activity has raised fears among a small but growing number of scientists that rather than getting warmer, the Earth could possibly be about to return to another cooling period. The idea is especially intriguing considering that most of the world is in preparation for global warming.
MB4 on November 24, 2009 at 8:12 PM
This is the moment when the oceans will recede and the planet will heal. I am the one we have been waiting for.
elduende on November 24, 2009 at 8:13 PM
Gore gets a cold shoulder
ONE of the world’s foremost meteorologists has called the theory that helped Al Gore share the Nobel Peace Prize “ridiculous” and the product of “people who don’t understand how the atmosphere works”.
“We’re brainwashing our children,” said Dr Gray, 78, a long-time professor at Colorado State University. “They’re going to the Gore movie [An Inconvenient Truth] and being fed all this. It’s ridiculous.”
“We’ll look back on all of this in 10 or 15 years and realise how foolish it was,” Dr Gray said.
“The human impact on the atmosphere is simply too small to have a major effect on global temperatures,” Dr Gray said.
MB4 on November 24, 2009 at 8:13 PM
Apostate challenges Al Gore – burn him at the stake!
Alarmist global warming claims melt under scientific scrutiny
MB4 on November 24, 2009 at 8:14 PM
Attention Al Gore – you are being challenged.
Sheik Mohammed Omran – “Lack of faith in Islam causes drought, climate change and pollution”.
MB4 on November 24, 2009 at 8:14 PM
Ed Begley is INSANE! Oh and Stuart should have pointed out part why these emails were important was that the “scientists” were trying to control “peer review” and that in the body of the emails there is an admission of cooling rather then warming and the “scientists” were concerned it did not fit the narrative they wanted.
Oh, Ed Begley is INSANE! Notice how he makes appeals to authority? Plus none of those publications he screamed about are exactly objective.
Sharr on November 24, 2009 at 8:16 PM
Al Gore has no style, he has no class
By any standard the man is a horse’s ass
His supporters are either into childlike make believe
Or their brains are on extended leave
MB4 on November 24, 2009 at 8:16 PM
Via Newsbusters, a damn funny video on Climategate.
GnuBreed on November 24, 2009 at 8:17 PM
The left is entirely made up of insane, slobbering idiots that have absolutely no connection with the true state of the world. You could better reason with a one cell organism than with these fools.
rplat on November 24, 2009 at 8:26 PM
If Climategate is being covered by the cable news outlet that’s watched by more people than all the rest put together, is it really being “blacked out”?
Jim Treacher on November 24, 2009 at 8:27 PM
“Well, I don’t believe that climate change is just an issue that’s convenient to bring up during a campaign. I believe it’s one of the greatest moral challenges of our generation. That’s why I’ve fought successfully in the Senate to increase our investment in renewable fuels. That’s why I reached across the aisle to come up with a plan to raise our fuel standards… And I didn’t just give a speech about it in front of some environmental audience in California. I went to Detroit, I stood in front of a group of automakers, and I told them that when I am president, there will be no more excuses — we will help them retool their factories, but they will have to make cars that use less oil.”
- Barack Obama , Speech in Des Moines, IA
disillusioned on November 24, 2009 at 8:30 PM
THE CLOSER YOU ARE TO THE TARGET THE MORE FLAK YOU TAKE.
THE AGW ALARMISTS ARE VERY VERY WORRIED – AND THEY SHOULD BE.
THE WHOLE HOUSE OF CARDS IS ABOUT TO CRASH.
reliapundit on November 24, 2009 at 8:34 PM
So many, many, morons….. and they wear the moniker proudly.
ultracon on November 24, 2009 at 8:34 PM
First there were Truthers, then there were Birthers, now there are Warmers!
NC Hoov on November 24, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Ed Begley has an uncanny appearance to Mr. Ed. Apologies are due to Mr. Ed for this comparison since Mr. Ed has a brain unlike Begley.
dawgyear on November 24, 2009 at 8:37 PM
AP’s about to get into Charles Johnson’s bad books ;) Doesn’t the above quote apply to ID? Eh, Allah?
Richard Romano on November 24, 2009 at 8:38 PM
I would like to blame Ed’s lisp on global warming!
Frances on November 24, 2009 at 8:49 PM
That’s a nice punch to the gut to CNN and MSNBC, but it isn’t taking in to account that “the big 3″ also haven’t covered the email/cover-up story.
But the real point is what motivates the blackout from the other networks, and what that says about the world we live in.
RightWinged on November 24, 2009 at 8:49 PM
Begley is bozo
bill30097 on November 24, 2009 at 8:50 PM
peer review by a group of peers who are threatened with their job loss if they pick the wrong side is like being judged by a jury whose family is being held hostage during the trial.
flyoverland on November 24, 2009 at 8:57 PM
Is it just me, or does any of this sound familiar?
Personal Attacks / Boycotts / Media Blackouts!
SNE-VANJONES-EZE.
Pole-Cat on November 24, 2009 at 9:03 PM
How can you not love Stu Varney????
He’s the bomb man……..did you see when he smacked down Bertha Lewis?!
proudteadrinker on November 24, 2009 at 9:06 PM
Enjoy.
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Jerricho68 on November 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM
Blugh. That video was near intolerable.
My opinion is thus:
It is good to be “pro-environment” in the sense you exercise self-restraint and do not willingly contribute to waste. Recycle when you can. Carpool when you can. Walk or bike when you can. Turn off the lights when you leave. Conserve energy (use that fireplace; don’t run the furnace!). Don’t litter. It’s an extension of appropriate, personal moderation.
I’ll never get conservatives that knee-jerk into this “ARRGHHH ENVIRONMENTALISM SO TREACHEROUS!!!” when being self-aware about your own behaviors is always good, especially when it comes to your community and your pocketbook. I like things like “Earth Day.”
But I’m never going to carry around some sack to go shopping with; give me that plastic bag (and I’ll re-use it as a bathroom trash bag).
And there’s the crux. Liberal SUPER so-called-”environmentalists” want to mandate behavior, requiring penalties for not “doing the (so-called) right thing.” This car is illegal; pay a fine. This TV is illegal; pay a fine. This lightbulb is illegal; pay a fine. Want a plastic bag? That’s an extra 50 cents!
No no no no no. Everyday people do not want that, nor should it be a mandate. There’s so much nuance in this “environmental” debate, and it should come down to conservation education and expecting people to have personal accountability regarding their own actions. It should not be a government mandate.
That’s where people like Begley are wrong, wrong, wrong. A “one size fits all” mantra does not work, and that is where government fails. “Global Warming” is just a vehicle to that end — increasing government to ultimately increase revenues/taxes via fines.
lansing quaker on November 24, 2009 at 9:16 PM
Heh. 80′s movies are hardly trivial matters! I’ve never seen that one, but I’ll check it out.
Weight of Glory on November 24, 2009 at 9:19 PM
Print up your opinion a few thousand times and I will scatter it all over a wetland.
Jerricho68 on November 24, 2009 at 9:23 PM
Begley’s so-called acting career has been reduced to appearing on DirecTv ads as a befuddled cable tv executive. Then he appears on Fox News, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who also happens to own DirecTv. Begley attacks Fox’s Stuart Varney, spewing left-wing lies & vitriol.
Yo Ed, you really are a dumbass. Don’t bite the hand that feeds ya!
I’d love to see Lord Monckton have a polite discussion with this global warming conspiracy jingoistic jackass – he’d demolish him in about ten seconds flat.
Begley was all over the place, not making any sense – listen closely and you’ll hear another left-wing mantra of denial, this one about about the health “reform” death panels that Sarah Palin brought to light.
Yesh shir, ol’ Ed shertainly sherved up a shtirring argument about Climate Changzhe but the only thing he ackshually shtirred up waszh a bunch of bullshit.
Catch
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CatchAll on November 24, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Ed=washed up barking moonbat
Varney=knowledgeable English gentleman
MalindaH on November 24, 2009 at 9:29 PM
I’ve been waiting for proof and I finally have it, an Easy-Bake-Oven, I’m convinced now.
Dollayo on November 24, 2009 at 9:30 PM
You’ve got to feel for Ed Begley. He’s a true believer, not some political hack like Al Gore who’s figured out a way to make a buck off this flawed science. It’s a little early to hit him with all the e-mails and stuff because, as a true believer, he has to be convinced they’re legitimate and then take the time to work out how they’ve completely circumvented the “peer review” process he was talking about.
I hope someone compiles a list of the legitimate climate scientists who have had their abilities questioned and their reputations taken apart by these people. Lord Monckton came here to testify before the Senate and was not allowed to by the Democrats. He’s offered to debate Al Gore on the subject, Gore refuses, and yet Gore is the go-to guy the Democrats bring in to testify.
I hope someone does a serious accounting on how much money these “scientists” have cost the countries in Europe, Japan, and the rest of the world with their false theories. I hope someone is held accountable for the wasted time, in the House and Senate, debating climate change legislation and having the reputations of those people that questioned the science torn apart. I hope the Democrats, who refused to hear give credit to any one willing to testify about alternative theories, are chastised at the polls for their assistance in this fraud.
Finally, I hope the press, without whom this fraud could never have been accomplished, takes a serious look at itself, especially in these times of health care legislation, and searches for the truth, unlike it did during the climate change debate.
bflat879 on November 24, 2009 at 9:33 PM
Ed Begley NEEDS AGW it’s the only thing keeping his Career from oblivion.
And with that lisp our oceans will raise!
Irenaeus on November 24, 2009 at 9:46 PM
The same thing that motivated them to ignore Rielle Hunter and Van Jones and ACORN and the rest of it, yes. The point is, we don’t need them anymore.
Jim Treacher on November 24, 2009 at 9:46 PM
Someone stuff an Emmy up this ass-clowns ass!
EZnSF on November 24, 2009 at 9:48 PM
Cavuto missed a huge chance to bring up the manipulation of \”peer reviewed\” publications. Instead he blathers about light bulbs. It was good for a while.
darwin-t on November 24, 2009 at 9:56 PM
You are a treasure, really on your game tonight.
Mojave Mark on November 24, 2009 at 10:03 PM
But what am I going to feed my dog in the post-apocalyptic wasteland after Reagan starts WWIII with Ab Roller Tantric Gobble Worming?
fronclynne on November 24, 2009 at 10:07 PM
Peer Review? It doesn’t work if one is allowed to pick the reviewers. I once worked in the same department with an engineer who would find (invent) reasons for not allowing me and another engineer to review his work. We were either too stubborn to listen to his explanations, we were nit picking, or we had a personal problem with him.
The fact that these people were shopping for reviewers tells me their stuff is bogus.
Pelayo on November 24, 2009 at 10:40 PM
OMG… failed actor Ed is the Global Warm n Expert now.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Was Sponge Bob Square Pants busy?
roflmmfao
donabernathy on November 24, 2009 at 10:41 PM
Thos of you who add the suffix “gate” owe G. Gordon Liddy five dollars every time you use it.
Pelayo on November 24, 2009 at 10:44 PM
Ed Jr. Who? Wasn’t he in a show once or something?
29Victor on November 24, 2009 at 10:51 PM
I agree that we don’t need them anymore… I’ve had no use for them for basically as long as I can remember… but there are still too many people who haven’t figured it out, and the indoctrination via schools and universities, and Hollywood is only getting worse.
Think of it this way, how many millions of idiot kids will turn 18 in the next few years and can’t wait to cast their first ever vote for B. Hussein because he’s here to give everyone free health care and stop us from the non-existent menace “climate change”. Add to that the number of poor senior citizens who missed the boat and are stuck in their old MSM news consuming ways.
We may be winning the information war on global warming, but it’s so bad that any believers (not including those who stand to make money) should have abandoned this BS long ago. The fact that so many still believe and so many “don’t know” is disturbing to me, and I’m not ready to say the fat lady has sung yet.
Don’t think these evil SOBs are ready to drop this. The New World Order folks tried bird flu, SARS, etc. but “global warming” was the most promising “global crisis” they’ve sold to the world’s people. And don’t take my word for it, countless world leaders and UN folks have said we need a “New World Order” to fight global warming. Hell, Gordon Brown said it just months before taking over for Blair!
RightWinged on November 24, 2009 at 10:54 PM
What if you invested all of your personal righteousness ‘cred into one issue and that issue turned out to be bogus?
You’d be angry too.
People only believe that Ed is righteous if global warming is true. If people start thinking it’s a scam then he’s just another nut that invested his life in nonsense.
29Victor on November 24, 2009 at 10:56 PM
What an arrogant asshole. Peer review this, jetk
Brian Mallard on November 24, 2009 at 11:12 PM
Isn’t that Ed schlepping satellite tv on directv commercials? A no line part, but why would a man, so overly concerned about global warming, schlepp a product that uses energy, and possibly those naughty tv’s? Hypocrite!
capejasmine on November 24, 2009 at 11:21 PM
It ain’t gonna happen overnight. All we can do is keep telling the truth. I mean, we wouldn’t even know about this if not for the Internet. It routes around damage.
Jim Treacher on November 24, 2009 at 11:50 PM
What fatheads like Ed Begley are ACTUALLY saying; “I don’t care what the facts are and if someone on my side gets caught lying, we’ll just ignore than!”
nelsonknows on November 24, 2009 at 11:52 PM
How valid is a peer review study if the peers are lying and they try to eliminate any evidence of those they review of lying?
nelsonknows on November 24, 2009 at 11:53 PM
Poor Newt, another issue he must follow the unwashed masses on lest he no longer be leader.
abobo on November 24, 2009 at 11:58 PM
Actors can call up indignation at a moment’s notice.
Dogma. They’ve just got too much invested in it now.
Braying jackasses.
juanito on November 25, 2009 at 12:36 AM
Even though the Gorebull-Warm-In has been shut down, we’re still going to see a parade of nobody’s like Ed… what’s his name?… paraded in front of us for at least another year.
But we’re still all just a bunch of Tea-bagging Holocaust Deniers for pointing out the logical obvious facts surrounding this huge con, and the never-ending stupidity of the entire political left.
ronnyraygun on November 25, 2009 at 1:14 AM
And are determined to drag the rest us us along with them.
Like it or not. Liberty be Damned.
soundingboard on November 25, 2009 at 4:15 AM
It’s definitely worth the watch.
Begley’s in it.
And his character in the film is as obstinately convinced, and equally clueless, as the real Begley was with Varney.
IT’s positively eerie.
(naked begley butt warning)
soundingboard on November 25, 2009 at 4:45 AM
All great news topic points. But one question to you since you really do seem to be in the know with the media. Is their power really diminishing? I wonder because of the CBS coverage I managed to catch in reference to John Ensign. CBS wasted no time going after him. Quite a contrast from the kid gloves treatment Edwards got.
hawkdriver on November 25, 2009 at 4:52 AM
Wow, the warmers are getting angry. Must mean they know we are on to them.
ctmom on November 25, 2009 at 7:42 AM
Ah, but the real question is, “How many people belive in man-made global warming?”
Allah being less that honest again.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/environment_energy/energy_update
mwdiver on November 25, 2009 at 8:41 AM
Is projection the only skill you have?
MarkTheGreat on November 25, 2009 at 8:43 AM
I apologize. I’ll try to proof read better, next time.
mwdiver on November 25, 2009 at 8:44 AM
You’d think someone just told Ed Begley that the world is flat! Must be tough to know that he’s been living a lie. I’m sure he feels betrayed. It will be hard to knock him out of the dream world he’s been living in.
My hat’s off to Stuart Varney. I have a really bad habit when someone sticks their finger in my face I grab it. Also, if they live in my house, I then bite it.
Oink on November 25, 2009 at 8:49 AM
In GOLD, baby, in GOLD!
ya2daup on November 25, 2009 at 8:54 AM
They faked the data. The debate really is over.
rogersnowden on November 25, 2009 at 9:29 AM
Wow.
Believe it or not, I actually had respect for Ed until I saw this interview. Misguided or not, at least he was one of those ecoweenie liberals who practiced what he preached (unlike Al Gore and his private jets).
Stuart Varney asks him legitmate questions and Ed becomes unhinged. That doesn’t reflect someone who is confident in his convictions, but rather threatened by reality.
A question I would have loved Stuart to ask him…did Ed ride his bicycle to New York for the interview or did he take an airplane?
Nigel on November 25, 2009 at 10:05 AM
As a published scientist myself, I have to be amused by non-scientists like ol’ Ed ranting about the “sacred” peer-reviewed literature. Here’s the dirty little secret, Ed: the editors of journals as well as the academics who are the peer reviewers are biased. So they control what is, and is not, published in the first place. One of the emails even alluded to blocking publications from global warming skeptics. So Ed, STFU, OK?
MADgirl91 on November 25, 2009 at 12:02 PM
Sssssuferin ssssuckatash…all that green ssshtuff ssshure hassssh given Ed a lisssshp.
Wyznowski on November 25, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Ed is a d-bag.
A physicist can evaluate a climatologists data sets & conclusions.
You don’t need to be a climatologist to evaluate the scientific process, which is NOT what these scientists are doing.
They’ve totally hijacked the scientific method & when someone tries to call them on it, they wanna say “you just don’t understand bcs you don’t have a PhD in climatology and I do”?
This is nuts.
There is so much data out there in all disciplines that needs to be sifted through & re-evaluated over & over again.
So bcs gravity is a settled theory or law, does that mean we don’t investigate it anymore?!
Nature, Science, & National Geographic are about as scientific as Highlights magazine.
Bingo. Something people don’t get.
It’s kinda like the news.
There’s a lot of stuff going on out there that doesn’t get reported by the networks. Doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.
Badger40 on November 25, 2009 at 1:42 PM
I don’t think those attributes are mutally exclusive of each other.
They go hand in hand.
Badger40 on November 25, 2009 at 1:43 PM
Is it me or is this guy just sound like someone who doesn’t want to face the fact that his entire life style might be based on a lie? Which it is.
4d4m on November 25, 2009 at 1:45 PM
Perfectly explained.
Peer Review? It doesn’t work if one is allowed to pick the reviewers. I once worked in the same department with an engineer who would find (invent) reasons for not allowing me and another engineer to review his work. We were either too stubborn to listen to his explanations, we were nit picking, or we had a personal problem with him.
The fact that these people were shopping for reviewers tells me their stuff is bogus.
Pelayo on November 24, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Badger40 on November 25, 2009 at 2:06 PM
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