Obama’s decision: 34,000 troops to Afghanistan
posted at 8:48 am on November 24, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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McClatchy reports that Barack Obama made his decision last night on Afghanistan, and has decided on a number between McChrystal’s medium- and high-risk plans. Instead of 40,000 or 20,000, Obama will send an additional 34,000 troops to bolster the NATO forces and employ the counterinsurgency strategy that he publicly demanded for two years and made official US policy in March. However, McClatchy also reports that Obama won’t announce the new numbers until next week:
President Barack Obama met Monday evening with his national security team to finalize a plan to dispatch some 34,000 additional U.S. troops over the next year to what he’s called “a war of necessity” in Afghanistan, U.S. officials told McClatchy.
Obama is expected to announce his long-awaited decision on Dec. 1, followed by meetings on Capitol Hill aimed at winning congressional support amid opposition by some Democrats who are worried about the strain on the U.S. Treasury and whether Afghanistan has become a quagmire, the officials said.
The U.S. officials all spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren’t authorized to discuss the issue publicly and because, one official said, the White House is incensed by leaks on its Afghanistan policy that didn’t originate in the White House.
Perhaps part of their reluctance would also be that Obama threatened to fire anyone who leaked information about his decision. The comment about “not originating in the White House” seems odd, too. Did the White House want to pin the leaks on the Pentagon? Sourcing these as “US officials” makes it as generic as possible; that term could apply to an EPA clerk.
The new plan contains the “off-ramps” Obama demanded from his national security team. Those begin to arrive as early as June, according to McClatchy, giving the US a few easy outs if Obama chooses to retreat. If the “political side” or the war itself doesn’t improve, Obama apparently wants to get out altogether. In other words, this looks like McChrystal’s last stand. Next week, McChrystal will return to DC in order to help Obama roll this out, where Obama will almost certainly get significant pushback from Democrats in Congress over the cost and the need to keep fighting.
The increase in troops is a good decision, but the off-ramps almost completely undermine it. The point in extending our footprint is to win the trust of the local communities and prove our reliability in providing them security, which is the central thrust of McChrystal’s COIN strategy. By getting them to trust our commitment, we can get them to help fight the Taliban themselves, as we did with the Anbar Awakening in Iraq against al-Qaeda, and greatly improve the intel we get from the locals. If we send 34,000 more troops but give ourselves a six-month time frame for success or bug-out, the locals will very quickly come to the realization that allying with us will be suicide. The COIN strategy only worked in Iraq because George W. Bush was adamant that we would stay until we won.
A Commander in Chief doesn’t need “off-ramps.” Any President can call an end to a deployment based on his own judgment. Putting these conditions into the American strategy signals weakness — a desire to pull out without getting blamed for the decision. Obama wants to be off the hook for an eventual withdrawal by claiming that he’s forced to do it because of these benchmark failures. And if Obama’s that keen to retreat, he should just do it now.
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When the President is engaging in CYA it tends to damage morale.
Also- isn’t this exactly the amount of troops that was leaked a month ago and then completely rejected in favor of starting the assessment all over again?
Sackett on November 24, 2009 at 8:52 AM
It’s so comforting when a community organizer makes military decisions.
Socmodfiscon on November 24, 2009 at 8:52 AM
two pounds in, one pound out
Doctor Zhivago on November 24, 2009 at 8:52 AM
I hope Obama doesn’t expect to win another term.
He must have already resigned himself to being a one termer with this decision.
34,000 troops to Vei- I mean Afganistan. Lame. Duck.
B Man on November 24, 2009 at 8:53 AM
Funny how wars are the only time those guys get concerned about the treasury.
BadgerHawk on November 24, 2009 at 8:53 AM
Typical, half-assed efforts again!
El Coqui on November 24, 2009 at 8:53 AM
Hmm, the 34,000 figure sounds a lot like what leaked a few weeks ago. And I’ll give him props for that(even though he should’ve made up his mind 2 months ago), but I agree that this “off-ramps” business sounds a little “off-putting”.
Doughboy on November 24, 2009 at 8:54 AM
The Great Capitulator is historic indeed.
trubble on November 24, 2009 at 8:54 AM
It is. A cynical mind might conclude they were waiting until debate got opened on Health Care in the Senate to make things final.
BadgerHawk on November 24, 2009 at 8:54 AM
Those extra 6,000 troops just couldn’t be added, as if Ogabe was trying to show that he was still in charge by keeping the number lower than McChrystal wanted.
So lefties, waddya think, Ogabe the Warmonger?
Bishop on November 24, 2009 at 8:54 AM
Excellent analysis, Ed. Half-assed efforts do not work. WWSD?
(Sorry, couldn’t help myself).
pugwriter on November 24, 2009 at 8:54 AM
He is still voting present I see. This man is completely unable (or unwilling) to make a firggin decision.
Johnnyreb on November 24, 2009 at 8:55 AM
So it’s set up if this doesn’t work, Obama can blame Karzai or McChrystal. Or both.
Just like his campaign; all the screw-ups were due to mistakes by “staff.”
Wethal on November 24, 2009 at 8:56 AM
Concur. My son’s in country, and his troops are less than thrilled about the support they’ve been given from their CinC.
AW1 Tim on November 24, 2009 at 8:56 AM
Personally, I think the fear that they won’t think we’re committed is already realized.
That’s irrelevant at this point.
AnninCA on November 24, 2009 at 8:57 AM
This is one of the tricks that Democrats continue to pull off with the help of the MSM to make them appear conservative or moderate to the public. They announce a good decision, but include a lot of small print that completely undermines it. But hey! They’ve made a tough and good decision for our country!
Loxodonta on November 24, 2009 at 8:57 AM
The blood of our brave soldiers who have died because of his procrastination will remain on Obama’s hands long after his one term is over.
kingsjester on November 24, 2009 at 8:58 AM
34,000 troops? That’s rounded off, right? I heard that actually he decided to send 34,361.
Jimmy Carter on steroids.
petefrt on November 24, 2009 at 8:58 AM
While our youth suffer and die this fool plays cheap political theater with their lives. This is the most disgusting jug screw I’ve ever seen.
rplat on November 24, 2009 at 9:00 AM
Actually, I do wish Obama would take an off-ramp.
Disturb the Universe on November 24, 2009 at 9:00 AM
Another show from the douche. Just like the KSM trial, it doesn’t mean anything. We all know he’s rooting for defeat (yes, I said it) here and rooting for acquittal for KSM.
SouthernGent on November 24, 2009 at 9:01 AM
Why doesn’t the man just resign?? Obama obviously doesn’t want the job of President. He’d gain a little respect from me if he would either man up or just step down.
Do Democrats still worry about why they are seen as soft on issue of national security and defense?
uknowmorethanme on November 24, 2009 at 9:01 AM
Off-ramps? Question for the military historians out there, has a war plan ever had off-ramps before?
bnelson44 on November 24, 2009 at 9:01 AM
Seriously!!! This admin is making the cost of the wars just a drop in the bucket. Biggest bunch of hypocrites ever.
4shoes on November 24, 2009 at 9:02 AM
Prime time speech…
myrenovations on November 24, 2009 at 9:02 AM
How coincidental. Isn’t there a Congressional election campaign ramping up about then?
petefrt on November 24, 2009 at 9:02 AM
Since March huh? Well it only took 40 weeks to decide to send 34,000 reinforcements, aren’t we all lucky?
elduende on November 24, 2009 at 9:03 AM
Everything he does signals weakness.
Disturb the Universe on November 24, 2009 at 9:03 AM
Here’s hoping that General McChrystal calculated this weakness into his request for troops. I heard he initially asked for 80K, and really hoped for 40K. Maybe he really only needs 20K to do the job. Please God, let that be true!
NavyMustang on November 24, 2009 at 9:04 AM
I agree. I’m convinced that KSM will go free on at least on technicality.
4shoes on November 24, 2009 at 9:04 AM
Another reason for his impossible off-ramps is to give the wingnuts a signal that he in no way intends to win in Afghanistan and will inevitably withdraw… in defeat.
TXUS on November 24, 2009 at 9:04 AM
oops, on = one, haven’t had coffee yet.
4shoes on November 24, 2009 at 9:05 AM
Gee, ya think?
Del Dolemonte on November 24, 2009 at 9:06 AM
From the rest area to the off ramp.
LibTired on November 24, 2009 at 9:06 AM
Obama really needs to stand up to Soros. I mean, if it takes Ayers a week to program the teleprompter, he needs to find someone else.
cntrlfrk on November 24, 2009 at 9:07 AM
Obama Grants Himself First-Ever “Jive Turkey” Thanksgiving Pardon: http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/11/obama-grants-himself-first-ever-jive.html
Mervis Winter on November 24, 2009 at 9:08 AM
Beck’s leading with this and the idiotic proposed “tax the rich to fund the war” plan.
kingsjester on November 24, 2009 at 9:10 AM
Just what I was thinking.
Oink on November 24, 2009 at 9:10 AM
Pfft…It wouldn’t surprise me if the Administration leaked this on purpose so that Obama could engage in his favorite decision making tactic – Triangulation. In other words telegraph his decision off the record ahead of schedule, see what sort of reaction it gets from the public and special interest groups and then adjust the plan accordingly.
Hellrider on November 24, 2009 at 9:11 AM
It’s about time. He’d better get them there double quick. Our troops deserve nothing but 100% support from us and this louse of a CinC the idiots of this country elected last year.
csdeven on November 24, 2009 at 9:12 AM
As suspected – and actually expected all along – the fraud in the White House has created a “no fault defeat” scenario. All the AQ and Taliban have to do is hang in there for a few more months and, when the benchmarks aren’t reached, he can pull the plug, citing that failure – rather than sending the needed troops and declaring a will to actually WIN (if such a thing is possible) in Afghanistan/Pakistan, etc.
What he’s saying to his left-wing base is “don’t worry. This won’t work and I’ll have the white flag flying very soon”. I’m guessing he’ll give it a year, at most. Which makes it a totally political decision, because that’s when the 2010 elections will be primed and ready for action.
By that time, the troop levels in Iraq will be down considerably, if not totally, and he can declare “I’ve ended both wars, just as I promised”. His comments as a candidate regarding “the real war” in Afghanistan will never be mentioned. He’ll then say “we never should have been there to begin with”.
The war scoreboard will read: George W. Bush 1 win – Barack Obama 1 loss. Of course, if the Iraq withdrawal results in an all-out civil war, he’ll say that was Bush’s fault, too!!
GoldenEagle4444 on November 24, 2009 at 9:12 AM
Del Dolemonte on November 24, 2009 at 9:06 AM
sadly, I think the NJ gov election played into that and his god awful decision with KSM.
gsherin on November 24, 2009 at 9:13 AM
The 34k number is an illusion. He’ll send as many as he wants but it will be under the radar. He already stated that he wasn’t comfortable with victory so what else does that leave?
Obambi underestimates the troops in the field and what the can really do.
Mojave Mark on November 24, 2009 at 9:14 AM
I’m trying to get this straight. George Bush ignores a deteriorating situation in Afghanistand for seven years and hands off an embarrassing mess to his successor (talk about “dithering”). Obama then commits to more than doubling troop strength, as reccomended by the regular Army, and actually having a strategy as opposed to just throwing young men and women at the problem. But you guys are all upset becaue he might want to figure how to get the heck out of the mess in case it is indeed “Vietnam: the Sequal?” The is the closest we’ve been to actually winning this war for almost a decade.
Remind me again wheere you guys were in 2005.
Bleeds Blue on November 24, 2009 at 9:15 AM
I’m wondering what information he finally got that he was waiting for in order to make a decision. Also, has he gotten any additional support from other nations to fight this war on terror?
scalleywag on November 24, 2009 at 9:16 AM
I hope the report comes back “We’re winning, but we need more” around October 2010. Or earlier.
Wethal on November 24, 2009 at 9:16 AM
He’s that predictable
I wish he wouldn’t do this to our troops. They deserve so much better than this.
Brat4life on November 24, 2009 at 9:16 AM
Winston Churchill and FDR..”We will begin our invasion of Western Europe in the late spring or early summer of 1943. If we don’t meet that schedule we will take an off ramp and go home…”
Caper29 on November 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM
Of course it signals weakness,he needs a back door to slither out of.
ohiobabe on November 24, 2009 at 9:17 AM
We should bring the troops out of Afghanistan now. It is clear the filthy lying dithering coward in the White House is not committed to the fight so it is better to bring the troops home than watch them be killed by half-measures from a radical socialist who doesn’t care about their well being. It really is that simple.
And Bleeds Blue…. STFU you miserable bastard. You don’t have a clue what you are talking about. It is not the number of troops that matter but the strategy and we have none under your traitor of a President.
highhopes on November 24, 2009 at 9:18 AM
Like I posted before, this was decided over a month ago. Obama had to wait until after the November Governor elections – even though it did him no good. Now he is trying to sandwich the announcement between Thanksgiving and Christmas to get as little media coverage as possible.
What a weasel this guy is. Obama the Weasel!
huckleberryfriend on November 24, 2009 at 9:19 AM
My first question is whether this 34,000 troops is actually this 34,000 troops.
I don’t see the word “combat” anywhere in that article except here:
I’m really confused. We have to wait until December 1 for the announcement?
russcote on November 24, 2009 at 9:21 AM
Off ramps, off ramps???
WTF
Total platitudinous bilge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jgdp on November 24, 2009 at 9:22 AM
Off Ramp my ass.
This is a Bridge Out sign for the military and Afghanistan.
I wonder what the Afghani word is for “Boat People”?
jjshaka on November 24, 2009 at 9:23 AM
Seems familiar to you, doesn’t it, remind you of a little something that the left went ballistic over, something known as the “Surge”?
“We can’t win. General BetrayUs. The surge has failed.”
Remind me again where you guys were in 2007.
Bishop on November 24, 2009 at 9:23 AM
We make the decision to send troops 4 months later than we could’ve and build in an exit strategy.
I guess Obama is just SOOOO brilliant that I don’t understand how that accomplishes anything. We’re going to send in more troops, but HEY WE’LL BE LEAVING SOON, IF YOU GIVE US ANY EXCUSE!
Let’s hope our armed forces are able to kill a whole lot of terrorists before they get pulled out.
hawksruleva on November 24, 2009 at 9:23 AM
34,000 guys that wear those cool uniforms, and salute me.
Of course this will come with a clear exit strategy:
If my polling numbers state that I made a mistake, I am pulling out…
Entry strategy:
Make sure George Soros and others have properly invested in the right companies to support the war…
right2bright on November 24, 2009 at 9:23 AM
Where are the effin’ exit strategies and off-ramps for the Nowhere Man’s spending “surge”?
Right, there aren’t any. He only insists on them when it comes to war.
Why? When victory is not an option, you must design your way into defeat.
TXUS on November 24, 2009 at 9:23 AM
I don’t want to call you ignorant, so I’ll go with naive. The COIN strategy, which requires an extremely heavy footprint to be successful, wasn’t decided upon as the COA until after President Obama was elected. I’m still not a fan of the COIN model for Afghanistan, but President Obama apparently is, so he should provide the resources required.
BadgerHawk on November 24, 2009 at 9:23 AM
Yes because Zero is busying planning a party in which no republicans are invited too. It’s going to be a huge party for Hollywood. He’s busy he’s got more important things to think about than the troops. Sad isn’t it?
Brat4life on November 24, 2009 at 9:24 AM
I personally am tired of the rumors. I’ll wait to hear. The fact is that there have been too many to rely upon this for information.
AnninCA on November 24, 2009 at 9:25 AM
So, is 36,000 troops a number that is based around any normal unit composition? Or is it just a number that sounds better than just splitting the difference?
hawksruleva on November 24, 2009 at 9:25 AM
If we had a president who gave a damn, I’d say stay and fight to kick Taliban a$$, but we don’t have that kind of president. We should leave.
B Man on November 24, 2009 at 9:25 AM
Well, “withdrawal,” “retreat” and “surrender” wouldn’t fit with the Hopeychangey meme.
Wethal on November 24, 2009 at 9:25 AM
Yeah, how many times have sources leaked the fact that he was “about to announce a decision”?
hawksruleva on November 24, 2009 at 9:25 AM
Again, not making a firm decision. This empty suit’s never made one, why start now? Straddle that fence, cut and run. Incompetence rules.
bradley11 on November 24, 2009 at 9:26 AM
You do need off ramps if you’re a complete political-hack piece of chit with no backbone and jelly for fortitude. A mama’s boy. This country elected a mama’s boy. And mama was a whore.
Griz on November 24, 2009 at 9:26 AM
I’ll wait to hear what Obama and the Defense Dept will set for the R.O.E.
In the famously spoken “two words”–RULES OF ENGAGMENT will be the most critical explanation of IF Obama plans on winning this conflict or just “pulling a Johnson”. (as in President Johnson)
Rovin on November 24, 2009 at 9:26 AM
So he’s decided to send 34K troops, while not implementing a strategy to let them win. Wasn’t McCrystals high end recommendation like 60-80K troops?
So what’s the f-ing point of sending the troops to begin with?!!
catmman on November 24, 2009 at 9:27 AM
Bleeds Blue on November 24, 2009 at 9:15 AM
You really should preview and correct your spelling before posting.
Disturb the Universe on November 24, 2009 at 9:27 AM
Very good point, Ed.
mikeyboss on November 24, 2009 at 9:27 AM
You can’t make this stuff up.
reaganaut on November 24, 2009 at 9:27 AM
Hey, it’s great news as long as the increase in troops are the newly enlisted liberal chickenhawks that were for the “good” war in Afghanistan, not the distraction in Iraq.
I can dream can’t I?
booter on November 24, 2009 at 9:27 AM
The depth of your ignorance is astounding. I cannot believe that you have the ability to access the internet. Your grandma must make her daily trip to the basement to turn it on for you.
csdeven on November 24, 2009 at 9:28 AM
Since Mr. Obama is so fond of basketball…
“Okay fellas, here’s the deal. We’re playing to 10, but if I’m not ahead by 5 half way through, I will have to take my ball and go home. Sound good, everyone? Okay, let’s play!”
Goody2Shoes on November 24, 2009 at 9:28 AM
This number was leaked well over a month ago. It was the plan all along despite Robert Gibbs numerous discussions about how seriously the filthy lying coward is taking this decision. It was also already decided well before the rat bastard traitor went to Dover and interjected himself into the return of fallen heroes.
That is part of what is appalling here- the decision was made weeks ago but has been delayed for political reasons. Troops have been killed because Obama is waiting until the optimum time to announce this (when the radical left are too damned busy attacking nativity scenes on public property to care about the troop increase). OUR TROOPS DESERVE BETTER THAN THE COWARD IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
highhopes on November 24, 2009 at 9:28 AM
I believe I saw soemthing a few weeks back about wanting some kind of conference or commission that will address long-term budget matters.
Translation: he wants to get the GOP involved as political cover for tax increases such as a VAT. He has an exit strategy out of the deficits: higher taxes from a “bipartisan” group.
Wethal on November 24, 2009 at 9:28 AM
Like I posted above you’ll have to wiat til his Dec 1 press conference. I’m sure Zero will tell the truth then. I just hope he doesn’t use this oppurtinity for another photo op with the troops.
Brat4life on November 24, 2009 at 9:28 AM
So what’s the f-ing point of sending the troops to begin with?!!
catmman on November 24, 2009 at 9:27 AM
To make it appear like he actually gives a rat’s rear about our Armed Forces.
kingsjester on November 24, 2009 at 9:28 AM
I think he’s pulling his Johnson, all right.
(But you knew somebody was going to say that, didn’t you?)
mr.blacksheep on November 24, 2009 at 9:29 AM
I will say a prayer for those 34,000 troops being send to a war where their C-I_C is afraid to use the term victory.
unseen on November 24, 2009 at 9:29 AM
May God bless your son and keep him safe.
mikeyboss on November 24, 2009 at 9:29 AM
Throwing giant parties with Hollywood stooges while our troops fight overseas and average Americans deal with a crumbling economy.
So, libs, what do you think…a little overboard?
Bishop on November 24, 2009 at 9:29 AM
I cannot believe 0 just put his hand on his heart and gazed arrogantly at the flag during Singh’s visit.
OmahaConservative on November 24, 2009 at 9:29 AM
Caution: Aproaching OFF-RAMP—Please exit at your own political risk. Cave-dwelling is also strictly prohibited.
Rovin on November 24, 2009 at 9:29 AM
Maybe he can get photograped with the troops as they deploy. Ive heard they make a great photo op.
Also, I will be diving in the sewers later today. Cant wait to see the poutrage that will be going on at DemUnderground.
di butler on November 24, 2009 at 9:30 AM
This is nothing but another f*cking trial balloon.
Our men and women are dying.
uknowmorethanme on November 24, 2009 at 9:30 AM
So what’s the f-ing point of sending the troops to begin with?!!
catmman on November 24, 2009 at 9:27 AM
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He’s trying to appease both sides,ridin’ the fence in other words as Wright would say…. RIDIN’ DIRTY!
ohiobabe on November 24, 2009 at 9:31 AM
Does “off-ramps” equal “exit stratgy”? If they are similar what are, if any the differences.
If they are not the same, what is “off-ramps”?
davidk on November 24, 2009 at 9:32 AM
Usually when people say to sh** or get off the can, they don’t mean to do both simultaneously! I didn’t even know you could. Obama has proven me wrong yet again.
abobo on November 24, 2009 at 9:32 AM
We’ll have to see. 34,000, 134,000, 340,000 – doesn’t mean much if the ROEs stay the same, and the mission is the “win the hearts and minds” nonsense, “hunker down with the locals” BS.
We could easily crush the Taliban with a minimal amount of casualties, but that wouldn’t help “improve our standing in the world”.
reaganaut on November 24, 2009 at 9:32 AM
I sleep so well at night knowing that a mentally ill America hating sissy-man-child-idiot is making life and death decisions for our troops. I can only imagine the misery the military families are in worrying about their loved ones.
Ris4victory on November 24, 2009 at 9:32 AM
It’s time to cut the Air Force loose and let them have some fun.
davidk on November 24, 2009 at 9:34 AM
“”Tonight, for a few hours, they will be eclipsed by the first big test of the Obamas’ ability to create something more memorable than mere politics, in what one White House veteran promised would be “the most magnificent tent that you have ever been in”.
The dress code is formal and the identity of Mrs Obama’s designer was being kept secret yesterday, along with the menu. “We still want our guests to be surprised,” her spokeswoman told The Times. “We just want the guests’ experience to be perfect.”"
This is what Ogabe and wife will be doing while our troops eat MRE’s in the middle east.
Bishop on November 24, 2009 at 9:35 AM
uknowmorethanme on November 24, 2009 at 9:36 AM
Zero waited long enough to guarantee he will be taking the first exit ramp. The surge won’t even be fully deployed or given even half a chance to work.
Daveyardbird on November 24, 2009 at 9:36 AM
Just when I think the last nail has been driven, and I can get no angrier…
With a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor — to never again let this country be led by such weakness.
publiuspen on November 24, 2009 at 9:36 AM
Wethal on November 24, 2009 at 9:37 AM
It’s called voting Present. Something Obama has made into an artform.
uknowmorethanme on November 24, 2009 at 9:37 AM
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