Census worker murdered by conservatives not actually murdered by conservatives

posted at 4:23 pm on November 24, 2009 by Allahpundit

Not actually murdered by anyone, in fact: It’s been ruled a suicide. And yet surely we wingnuts are to blame somehow. Perhaps Glenn Beck’s rantings drove him to despair? Or was it frustration at the thought that the lingering mystery surrounding Sarah Palin’s, ahem, “pregnancy” with her son Trig might remain forever unsolved?

A lot of people worked very hard to turn this poor guy’s corpse into a political prop. It’s almost a shame to see so much effort go to waste.

Tests indicated that the letters [in the word "Fed"] were applied from the bottom to the top � not the way an assailant facing Sparkman would write them. Police concluded that Sparkman wrote on himself, Rudzinski said…

Tests ruled out any theory that he was drugged and unconscious when he was tied to the tree, making the lack of signs of a struggle more significant. Also, Sparkman�s glasses were taped to his head. The question that raises is why a killer would care whether Sparkman, who had poor vision, could see what was going on.

On the other hand, if Sparkman was writing on his chest or preparing to kill himself, it would matter that he could see.

And although it is true that Sparkman died of asphyxiation from the rope around his neck, he was not dangling from the tree the way people commonly perceive hanging, Rudzinski said.

His legs were bent at the knee and his knees were less than six inches off the ground, Rudzinski said.

Sparkman could have stood up, taken the pressure off his neck and not died.

The boss wants an apology from liberals, which is understandable given that she was personally blamed by some for Sparkman’s death. But what’s an apology worth if it’s obviously insincere? They get too much political mileage from this sort of demagoguery to truly regret it: For a perfect gloss on this entire pathetic episode, read (or re-read) Jesse Walker’s piece at Reason on how the left exploits violence committed by the fringe to discredit mainstream conservatives. Despite their theatrical hand-wringing about wingnut violence, it’s really not the militia types whom the left is chiefly concerned with; it’s the mainstream non-violent types like Limbaugh, who can mobilize people to beat them at the polls, that need to be neutralized first and foremost. All conservative evildoers act in concert while all liberal evildoers act alone: Who wants or needs an apology from someone who believes that?

In lieu of an apology from anyone, enjoy the comments at DU, where the reality-based community is doing its best to come to grips with reality.


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triple on November 24, 2009 at 4:25 PM

I imagine the apologies will be flooding in at DU and PuffHo. /s

Bevan on November 24, 2009 at 4:26 PM

Census worker murdered by conservatives not actually murdered by conservatives

Lets not jump any conclusions..

the_nile on November 24, 2009 at 4:26 PM

The facts are irrelevant. It’s the seriousness of the charge that’s important.

Doughboy on November 24, 2009 at 4:28 PM

its OBVIOUS BOOOOSSSHHHHH drove him insane!!!! he forgot to wear the tin-foil…and well its obviously the fault of racistsexithomophobicbigoted conservatives!!

right4life on November 24, 2009 at 4:28 PM

I refuse to believe this cockamamie story from a PROVEN right-wing police force in a corrupt county unless I see some clear f*cking evidence and people willing to state ON THE RECORD AND IDENTIFIED.

Back. away. slowly.

Abby Adams on November 24, 2009 at 4:29 PM

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Response to Reply #41
42. Obama’s been bending over backwards to make the right happy

So it’s plausible the FBI is going along with it for that reason.

Not that I disagree with the report, but you don’t appear to have been following the going-ons of this administration very closely.

Bwahahahahahahahahahhahahaha

SouthernGent on November 24, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Dave Weigel has a typically asshattish reaction.

Dan Collins on November 24, 2009 at 4:29 PM

In lieu of an apology from anyone, enjoy the comments at DU, where the reality-based community is doing its best to come to grips with reality.

Allah, you fiend, I was about to eat lunch. ‘course, I just had to look. I’ll save anyone else from spoiling their own appetites: right out of the gate they suggest it’s a conspiracy! 111eleventyBushitler! And it goes on from there. Sheesh. I need a shower now.

TheQuestion on November 24, 2009 at 4:30 PM

Obama’s been bending over backwards to make the right happy

So it’s plausible the FBI is going along with it for that reason.

Not that I disagree with the report, but you don’t appear to have been following the going-ons of this administration very closely.

Not occupying the same dimension as the rest of us.

Abby Adams on November 24, 2009 at 4:30 PM

Yet nary a mention about how the political correctness, anti-Americanism, and outright craven behavior of leftists has enabled the killing of US soldiers and civilians at the hands of rabid Muslims for 8 years.

elduende on November 24, 2009 at 4:31 PM

Are the cops saying he wasn’t murdered, or that he wasn’t murdered-murdered?

Bishop on November 24, 2009 at 4:31 PM

Suicide by teabag

faraway on November 24, 2009 at 4:33 PM

But he COULD have been killed, sure it was suicide…but it could have just as easily have been murder, driven to despair by the right wing zealots…facts do not matter when we know the truth.
How is that for a liberal answer…it almost too easy…

right2bright on November 24, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Nailed it with every line, AP.

Axeman on November 24, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Suicide? Then he was killed by a democrat? What?

Akzed on November 24, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Are the cops saying he wasn’t murdered, or that he wasn’t murdered-murdered?

Bishop on November 24, 2009 at 4:31 PM

Rollin on the floor

seven on November 24, 2009 at 4:34 PM

From DU comments, heh.

They could have grabbed him in his sleep, chloroformed him, etc.

What motive would he have for doing all of that stuff? Quite unlike a typical suicide.

Alden Pyle on November 24, 2009 at 4:35 PM

When this story first broke, I thought it was more likely he had just wandered into someone’s meth lab/pot farm. Sad to see he killed himself, sadder to see it becoming some kind of political prop, but glad to know that part of the world was less dangerous than thought.

Sekhmet on November 24, 2009 at 4:36 PM

I refuse to believe this cockamamie story from a PROVEN right-wing police force in a corrupt county unless I see some clear f*cking evidence and people willing to state ON THE RECORD AND IDENTIFIED.

This is sad.

Emily M. on November 24, 2009 at 4:36 PM

But what’s an apology worth if it’s obviously insincere?

I too never understood the demand for an apology. Just point how stupid said person or group was. and tell people the next time they make a claim, remember this incident.

WashJeff on November 24, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Well Andrew Sullivan will move on to his next target. They are not just after Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck…

Outrage, disgrace, and oh yeah, a day to live in infamy.

I am against true torture, but this is absolutely insane.

Mr. Joe on November 24, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Expect nothing from Sullivan on this. Certainly no apology.

Mr. Joe on November 24, 2009 at 4:36 PM

But was the Census Worker himself a Conservative?

PappaMac on November 24, 2009 at 4:37 PM

Back. away. slowly.

Abby Adams on November 24, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Oh, you beat me to it.

Emily M. on November 24, 2009 at 4:37 PM

Obama’s been bending over backwards to make the right happy

So it’s plausible the FBI is going along with it for that reason.

That’s a quote from DU. Can someone please tell me when this bending over backwards for the right happened or was I absent that day?

Knucklehead on November 24, 2009 at 4:38 PM

SouthernGent on November 24, 2009 at 4:29 PM

I totally need a DU account. Trolling there would be a hoot.

lorien1973 on November 24, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Poor guy, I read he was being treated for cancer. I am sure he thought he was helping his son. So sad.

Cindy Munford on November 24, 2009 at 4:38 PM

I checked the Daily Dish, and Sullivan reported the story, but not comment. No apology to Glenn Beck (Sullivan did accuse him of causing this murder). Coward.

Mr. Joe on November 24, 2009 at 4:39 PM

In lieu of an apology from anyone, enjoy the comments at DU, where the reality-based community is doing its best to come to grips with reality.

Here is one from HuffPost:

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Overtones of collusion between the State Police and the Insurance Company Investigators.

Has anyone looked to see how much the Insurance Companies that got out of paying on the policies have contributed to the Kentucky State Police?

Joe Caps on November 24, 2009 at 4:39 PM

I refuse to believe this cockamamie story from a PROVEN right-wing police force in a corrupt county unless I see some clear f*cking evidence and people willing to state ON THE RECORD AND IDENTIFIED.

You missed the rest…

But I am good with butchered data and stifling sources with global warming.

WashJeff on November 24, 2009 at 4:39 PM

Obama’s been bending over backwards to make the right happy

Obama does not bow for the right. For others it is OK.

mwbri on November 24, 2009 at 4:39 PM

where the reality-based community is doing its best to come to grips with reality

I do not think those words mean what you think they mean. Heh.

Physics Geek on November 24, 2009 at 4:40 PM

I blame it on global warming.

petefrt on November 24, 2009 at 4:41 PM

Let’s not live in the past. It’s time to MoveOn. We have more important issues like climate change to …

Oh, wait.

JammieWearingFool on November 24, 2009 at 4:41 PM

We should just keep this graphic around, amended somewhat, to post when libs get all aghast at the “lies” of the conservative media. Just change the caption picture “He reaped what they sowed….uh, actually, he just hung himself.” And reply things like “Oooo scary-scary conservatives–all the rumors that they spread–just to frighten people.”

They turned it into a graphic not because they’re fans of nuance, but they wanted one single message out of this. Angry republicans–not UCLA students–are out of control.

Axeman on November 24, 2009 at 4:41 PM

These are the some of the same morons who think 9/11 was a conspiracy too. 9/11 was a conspiracy, this guys suicide is a “cover-up” (for what, who knows)

But the CRU e-mails showing fraud, intimidation and bad practices (at least) are simply “taken out of context” and “colloquialisms” amongst scientists.

What a world we live in…

catmman on November 24, 2009 at 4:42 PM

Are the cops saying he wasn’t murdered, or that he wasn’t murdered-murdered?

Bishop on November 24, 2009 at 4:31 PM

Nope, it was suicide-suicide.

I totally need a DU account. Trolling there would be a hoot.

lorien1973 on November 24, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Oh yeah, let’s roll!

Knucklehead on November 24, 2009 at 4:42 PM

Poor guy, I read he was being treated for cancer. I am sure he thought he was helping his son. So sad.

Cindy Munford on November 24, 2009 at 4:38 PM

I know. And his efforts were for nothing. Not that I think he should have succeeded, of course…it’s just sad all around.

Missy on November 24, 2009 at 4:43 PM

Despair over the Bush economy — the worst since the great depression!!!!!!!!

/

(see they can still blame the right)

red winger on November 24, 2009 at 4:43 PM

Cheney’s minions inside the FBI at work again.

The man is a genius.

Hey, they pulled off 9/11; this was nothing compared to that.

SteveMG on November 24, 2009 at 4:43 PM

Wow, those DU kids are a bright bunch. I love the one that remarked Obama was bending over backwards to please the Right, which is why of course he made the FBI and everyone else cover up the “real” story. Uh huh.

changer1701 on November 24, 2009 at 4:44 PM

Of course we don’t know if the guy was a conservative. If so, the original story would be true!

DarkKnight3565 on November 24, 2009 at 4:44 PM

The boss wants an apology from liberals

Not an apology. A retraction.

Michelle on November 24, 2009 at 4:44 PM

The neocons killed this guy and made it look like suicide to make the left look bad by blaming the right.

Geezus, I got dizzy typing that one.

SteveMG on November 24, 2009 at 4:45 PM

I couldn’t commit suicide if my life depended on it

faraway on November 24, 2009 at 4:45 PM

Cindy Munford,

That is the sad thing. The simplest explanation is right unless there is compelling evidence to the contrary. It was about the insurance money.

mwbri on November 24, 2009 at 4:45 PM

Cindy Munford on November 24, 2009 at 4:38 PM

I think they said there was no evidence he even had cancer.

changer1701 on November 24, 2009 at 4:46 PM

Has anyone over at DU blamed his death on global warming yet?

catmman on November 24, 2009 at 4:47 PM

Those DU comments are classic.

clearbluesky on November 24, 2009 at 4:49 PM

Despite their theatrical hand-wringing about wingnut violence, it’s really not the militia types whom the left is chiefly concerned with; it’s the mainstream non-violent types like Limbaugh, who can mobilize people to beat them at the polls, that need to be neutralized first and foremost.

This is an excellent point.

After the Tiller murder the left wasn’t outraged at the radical anti-abortion elements. No, they directed their anger at O’Reilly and Limbaugh despite zero evidence that the murderer ever listened to those figures much less (somehow) motivated to murder by them.

It is indeed even worse than the worst of McCarthyism: not guily by association but guilt by unproven association.

SteveMG on November 24, 2009 at 4:50 PM

Poor guy, I read he was being treated for cancer. I am sure he thought he was helping his son. So sad.

Cindy Munford on November 24, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Hadn’t heard that but did hear that he recently bought a life insurance policy which, of course, wouldn’t pay if it was suicide.

Indeed sad, but I can see the left now using the poor guy as a reason to pass Obamacare. Only a matter of time.

TXUS on November 24, 2009 at 4:51 PM

Sparkman sought peace for himself. RIP

It appears that Sparkman’s intent was to end his own life without depriving family of any possible benefits. Sad.

Don’t ask to settle the political score card at his family’s expense. And don’t take any abuse on his account, either. The press liberally applied their corrupted power as hate mongers. Attack the media for exploiting the incident and fabricating a false story to fomenting hatred.

maverick muse on November 24, 2009 at 4:51 PM

The boss wants an apology from liberals

Not an apology. A retraction.
Michelle on November 24, 2009 at 4:44 PM

Exactly.

maverick muse on November 24, 2009 at 4:53 PM

Doesn’t the government now need to ensure us that their “shining examples” of census workers, as they called Sparkman, aren’t all psychopathic fabricators of hoaxes before we let them into our homes?

Buddahpundit on November 24, 2009 at 4:53 PM

I blame it on global warming.

petefrt on November 24, 2009 at 4:41 PM

The two theories share whole cloth in common.

maverick muse on November 24, 2009 at 4:55 PM

Sparkman sought peace for himself. RIP

maverick muse on November 24, 2009 at 4:51 PM

Like a suicide bomber. He turned his death into political theater for personal and political gain.

Buddahpundit on November 24, 2009 at 4:55 PM

Not an apology. A retraction.

Michelle on November 24, 2009 at 4:44 PM

With the left I’m sure you’ll be waiting a long time. I don’t think even with torture they’ll say they were wrong on this story.

Brat4life on November 24, 2009 at 4:56 PM

A retraction.
Michelle on November 24, 2009 at 4:44 PM

Good luck with that.

thomasaur on November 24, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Census worker murdered by conservatives not actually murdered by conservatives

It’s a conspiracy.

And a cover-up.

Everybody knows what really happened.

Who bought them off?

I blame BushCheneyPalinMalkin.

Loxodonta on November 24, 2009 at 5:01 PM

Buddahpundit on November 24, 2009 at 4:53 PM

Proof is in the pudding. Expect “shining examples” across the board.

Ed’s piece yesterday regarding the certified educator ideological litmus test is a concept used on government job applications (your essay answer to a given question) to screen and select the obediently corrupt minds for STIMULUS hire.

maverick muse on November 24, 2009 at 5:04 PM

Well this does not fit the template. Lets not report this.

Kuffar on November 24, 2009 at 5:05 PM

“A retraction.
Michelle on November 24, 2009 at 4:44 PM”

What we’ll get is about a thousand word tome on “why Conservatives are STILL responsible for Sparkman’s untimely death – They drove him to Murder himself!”

GoldenEagle4444 on November 24, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Well, liberals are Conservative at being Conservative, right? That means liberals are Conservatives too which means a Conservative Conservative kill himself making it a Conservative Hate crime . . . even though he killed himself. So lets attach that hate crime to him so he can really pay! LOL

For Conservative shirts, visit: http://www.eyeconshirts.com

Anastas on November 24, 2009 at 5:07 PM

One of the reasons I know I’m with the right team is that conservatives and sites like HA own up when there’s a screw up on their part. It’s called having character.
I’m sure the groups smeared by Olby and sites like Little Green Lunatics will be apologized to— anytime now.

jjshaka on November 24, 2009 at 5:10 PM

retraction

Good luck with that.

thomasaur on November 24, 2009 at 4:57 PM

No one said to hold your breath waiting.

But if you want a clear record, you have to fight the filthy lies.

Taking the silent high road abandons truth to failure and forfeits truth’s existence.

maverick muse on November 24, 2009 at 5:11 PM

But… if we had universal healthcare, he wouldn’t have needed to commit suicide. You radical right wingers are standing in the way of history.

faraway on November 24, 2009 at 5:12 PM

In lieu of an apology from anyone, enjoy the comments at DU, where the reality-based community is doing its best to come to grips with reality.

Wow. Just… wow. I only scanned the comment thread and some of those folks are completely nuts. There’s a PhD dissertation in there somewhere.

The best thing about conspiracies? The lack of supporting evidence is proof positive that there is one.

landshark on November 24, 2009 at 5:13 PM

…They drove him to Murder himself!”
GoldenEagle4444 on November 24, 2009 at 5:06 PM

See above, pass ObamaCare.

maverick muse on November 24, 2009 at 5:13 PM

You radical right wingers are standing in the way of history.

faraway on November 24, 2009 at 5:12 PM

We just won’t jump in their historic hand basket going to hell.

maverick muse on November 24, 2009 at 5:14 PM

The boss wants an apology from liberals

Not an apology. A retraction.

Michelle on November 24, 2009 at 4:44 PM

You deserve a retraction AND an apology, and a whole lot more.

I apologize for not yet having the stomach to go to those sites and fight on your behalf.

Loxodonta on November 24, 2009 at 5:14 PM

Not an apology. A retraction.

Michelle on November 24, 2009 at 4:44 PM

A retraction in their circulation numbers will suffice.

faraway on November 24, 2009 at 5:17 PM

So it was suicide after all? Oh boy, Charles Johnson’s head is going to explode.

MisterPundit on November 24, 2009 at 5:17 PM

MisterPundit on November 24, 2009 at 5:17 PM

There’s not enough information yet to say for sure what was behind this killing, so let’s not jump to conclusions.

But let me do so anyways.

But the description of the circumstances and the timing (around the time of the Washington DC tea party) raises a strong suspicion that anti-government sentiment may have been the motivation.

ORLY?

Abby Adams on November 24, 2009 at 5:21 PM

Those DU comments are classic.

clearbluesky on November 24, 2009 at 4:49 PM

For those unaware of it, be sure to visit the DUmmie Funnies, compiled by Newsbusters’ P.J. Gladnick. Sure he’ll have this up either today or tomorrow. His latest is a hilarious chronicle about how they all have their getalifes in a bunch over last weekend’s SNL skit mocking their Dear Leader.

http://dummiefunnies.blogspot.com/

Del Dolemonte on November 24, 2009 at 5:22 PM

So it was suicide after all? Oh boy, Charles Johnson’s head is going to explode.

MisterPundit on November 24, 2009 at 5:17 PM

He’s spinning and lying.

I never wrote anything like that.

“There’s not enough information yet to say for sure what was behind this killing, so let’s not jump to conclusions. But the description of the circumstances and the timing (around the time of the Washington DC tea party) raises a strong suspicion that anti-government sentiment may have been the motivation.”

faraway on November 24, 2009 at 5:24 PM

But if you want a clear record, you have to fight the filthy lies.

Taking the silent high road abandons truth to failure and forfeits truth’s existence.

maverick muse on November 24, 2009 at 5:11 PM

We all make mistakes.

Everybody does.

To me this is just not a big deal.

I’d say forget about it.

Just my two cents.

— CannedLOL*

Loxodonta on November 24, 2009 at 5:25 PM

First Climategate and now Glenn Beck didn’t murder the census worker.

Looks like a bad week for Charles Johnson & conspiracy theorists everywhere.

tetriskid on November 24, 2009 at 5:26 PM

Hey, AP. I know you and CJ are fellow atheists and all, but is it OK for me to call him a Richard-head over this? He really, really deserves it.

SailorDave on November 24, 2009 at 5:29 PM

I thought liberals and neocons alike would have made it about Ron Paul since he wants to End the FED! (You can order that now for only $10 if you’re curious for whatever reason.)

The Dean on November 24, 2009 at 5:34 PM

Looks like a bad week for Charles Johnson & conspiracy theorists everywhere.

tetriskid on November 24, 2009 at 5:26 PM

Another hate-filled conservative causing suicide.

Loxodonta on November 24, 2009 at 5:43 PM

Looks like a bad week for Charles Johnson & conspiracy theorists everywhere.

tetriskid on November 24, 2009 at 5:26 PM

Breaking news.This just in from CJ
YOUR A RACIST!!
He doesn’t say why, but obviously he must be right.

kangjie on November 24, 2009 at 6:22 PM

42. Obama’s been bending over backwards to make the right happy

So it’s plausible the FBI is going along with it for that reason.

That’s an interesting take from DU.

BadgerHawk on November 24, 2009 at 6:33 PM

lgf charles is following form, ultimately addressing the matter by claiming that he never claimed that conservatives were responsible.

Lots of angry people out there, emailing me demanding that I apologize for something I never said.

and here he is saying what he never said:

…the description of the circumstances and the timing (around the time of the Washington DC tea party) raises a strong suspicion that anti-government sentiment may have been the motivation.

one comment from mshaw notes:

Seems to me that Charles, Kilgore Trout, et al were pretty damned sure about this one…

that one comment sets off a persistent flurry of defenses from charles’ sycophants.

finally charles does what he must do:

I don’t have time for this crap. I suggest you find another website to post comments at.

the last defense i linked is funny because it claims that all theories were examined in an even-handed manner, with specific reference to suicide. the fact of the matter is that posters suggesting the suicide theory were down-dinged and banned for suggesting it and charles himself could not from the beginning believe that it could have been anything but murder by a conservative.

in his original post, there are twenty three deleted messages for contradicting charles’ certainty about the motive and cause of sparkman’s death.

here is charles line, in continuity:

It doesn’t sound much like a suicide, if it’s true that the word ‘Fed’ was written on the body.

I doubt that this was a simple drug-related killing. It’s not their style at all. They would just take the body and bury it in some backwoods area where it would never be found, or sink it in a lake, or something similar. It makes no sense to stage what seems like a political statement, unless there was a political motive.

Here’s the Maddow report — she interviews AP’s Justice Department correspondent, who says that it’s unlikely that the FBI and other federal agencies would still be involved at this point if they didn’t suspect anti-government motivations related to his census work.

next thread in which charles suspends judgement on the matter.

This pretty much rules out the “suicide” hypothesis…

next thread:

…the census worker found murdered in Kentucky…

when a minion suggests that conservatives are only looking for alternate explainations because they know as well as anyone that they’re responbsible charles readily assents to the logic:

Bam. This is why Riehl and Stacy McCain are working so hard to throw dirt on Sparkman.

next thread:

…obsessive campaign to smear murdered census worker Bill Sparkman.

…came up with absolutely NO news about the murder of Bill Sparkman

and so on.

again, the self-serving narrative that charles hasn’t radically rearranged his biases but that he’s remained a stable island of non-biased reason amid all of his former fellows going nuts is revealed to be an abject lie.

the real test of honesty will be whether this career hack ever posts about sparkman again.

eh on November 24, 2009 at 7:01 PM

Fed up?

RobCon on November 24, 2009 at 7:03 PM

I’d wait for the apology from the MSNBC Looney Bin that was screeching all over the landscape for weeks on how this was an example of violent Conservatives gone wild, but why waste my time?

pilamaye on November 24, 2009 at 7:09 PM

eh on November 24, 2009 at 7:01 PM

Well done.

BadgerHawk on November 24, 2009 at 7:12 PM

I refuse to believe this cockamamie story from a PROVEN right-wing police force in a corrupt county unless I see some clear f*cking evidence and people willing to state ON THE RECORD AND IDENTIFIED

I recommend electro-shock therapy and daily doses of thorazine.

GrannyDee on November 24, 2009 at 7:51 PM

The Left is incapable of apologizing for anything. If it turned out that the evil conservatives were correct about anything, it would destroy their worldview.

Speedwagon82 on November 24, 2009 at 8:05 PM

Yep the Left is not after the militia types, ah, maybe because they just might fight back in an unPC manner. But with all of these unconstitutional congressional mandates, actions that just might destroy our country economically and our form of representative democracy, the Left just might want to starting worrying about the militia types being joined in sameness of thought by run of the mill conservatives and moderates.

The congress’ movement towards massive increases in taxation, with insurance mandates not met could result in prison and the violations of the constitution coupled with congress ignoring we, the people, seems to be mimicking what Americans faced prior to 1776. And remember that supposedly only 1/3 of our population supported the revolution. Looking at the polls, this congress and administration have more than 1/3 against them but so far it is expressed in a peaceful manner.

The incompetence we see daily could easily set off a spark that results in violence. We have seen that before as with MLK’s assassination and the reaction of the Molly Maguires to horrible working conditions in the coal mines with the government working with the industry magnates. Shay’s Rebellion in 1786 developed, in large part, because of the arrogance of government and corruption. In our time, with modern communications, it is hard not to notice what the American political leadership thinks of the people.

amr on November 24, 2009 at 10:18 PM

“…where the reality-based community community-based reality is doing its best to come to grips with facts.”

Fixed that for ya.

locomotivebreath1901 on November 24, 2009 at 10:36 PM

I blame Bush and/or the same kind of talk I heard in San Francisco in the 1970s.

HAnthonyWayne on November 24, 2009 at 10:54 PM

A ‘suicide”, really AP? I bet when Obama makes righties start disappearing they’ll call it the rapture!

abobo on November 25, 2009 at 12:07 AM

Those DU comments are classic.
clearbluesky on November 24, 2009 at 4:49 PM

Indeed. In case some of you have missed it. You don’t need to get a DU account to plunge the depths of weapons grade stupid that is the DU and the Daily Kos. PJ Gladnick (a Newsbusters blogger) has his own blog called DUmmie FUnnies. Wherein he riffs on the threads of those two bloggs in the spirit of Mystery Science Theater 3000. That’s what it looks like to me anyway.

The comments section is fun too. There’s even a potty mouthed resident Troll that keeps coming back for more.

rihar on November 25, 2009 at 12:10 AM

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