CBS: East Anglia CRU covered up bad data, computer modeling
posted at 2:55 pm on November 24, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Declan McCullough dives into the East Anglia CRU exposure and delivers a well-researched and fair look at the controversy for CBS News. McCullough looks at the various e-mails, including portions that have not yet gotten much attention from the media, and concludes that the CRU has acted without transparency. He also shows why the data itself has become suspect, as well as the modeling on which anthropogenic global-warming activists rely for stoking public demand for action:
As the leaked messages, and especially the HARRY_READ_ME.txt file, found their way around technical circles, two things happened: first, programmers unaffiliated with East Anglia started taking a close look at the quality of the CRU’s code, and second, they began to feel sympathetic for anyone who had to spend three years (including working weekends) trying to make sense of code that appeared to be undocumented and buggy, while representing the core of CRU’s climate model.
One programmer highlighted the error of relying on computer code that, if it generates an error message, continues as if nothing untoward ever occurred. Another debugged the code by pointing out why the output of a calculation that should always generate a positive number was incorrectly generating a negative one. A third concluded: “I feel for this guy. He’s obviously spent years trying to get data from undocumented and completely messy sources.”
Programmer-written comments inserted into CRU’s Fortran code have drawn fire as well. The file briffa_sep98_d.pro says: “Apply a VERY ARTIFICAL correction for decline!!” and “APPLY ARTIFICIAL CORRECTION.” Another, quantify_tsdcal.pro, says: “Low pass filtering at century and longer time scales never gets rid of the trend – so eventually I start to scale down the 120-yr low pass time series to mimic the effect of removing/adding longer time scales!”
While much of the attention has focused on CRU director Phil Jones and his messages about “hiding the decline,” McCullough focuses more attention on this:
I am seriously worried that our flagship gridded data product is produced by Delaunay triangulation – apparently linear as well. As far as I can see, this renders the station counts totally meaningless. It also means that we cannot say exactly how the gridded data is arrived at from a statistical perspective – since we’re using an off-the-shelf product that isn’t documented sufficiently to say that. Why this wasn’t coded up in Fortran I don’t know – time pressures perhaps? Was too much effort expended on homogenisation, that there wasn’t enough time to write a gridding procedure? Of course, it’s too late for me to fix it too. Meh.
I am very sorry to report that the rest of the databases seem to be in nearly as poor a state as Australia was. There are hundreds if not thousands of pairs of dummy stations, one with no WMO and one with, usually overlapping and with the same station name and very similar coordinates. I know it could be old and new stations, but why such large overlaps if that’s the case? Aarrggghhh! There truly is no end in sight… So, we can have a proper result, but only by including a load of garbage!
One thing that’s unsettling is that many of the assigned WMo codes for Canadian stations do not return any hits with a web search. Usually the country’s met office, or at least the Weather Underground, show up – but for these stations, nothing at all. Makes me wonder if these are long-discontinued, or were even invented somewhere other than Canada!
Knowing how long it takes to debug this suite – the experiment endeth here. The option (like all the anomdtb options) is totally undocumented so we’ll never know what we lost. 22. Right, time to stop pussyfooting around the niceties of Tim’s labyrinthine software suites – let’s have a go at producing CRU TS 3.0!since failing to do that will be the definitive failure of the entire project.
Ulp! I am seriously close to giving up, again. The history of this is so complex that I can’t get far enough into it before by head hurts and I have to stop. Each parameter has a tortuous history of manual and semi-automated interventions that I simply cannot just go back to early versions and run the update prog. I could be throwing away all kinds of corrections – to lat/lons, to WMOs (yes!), and more. So what the hell can I do about all these duplicate stations?…
If that looks like the CRU relied on unreliable data sets, bad computer models, and a desire to reach a conclusion rather than do actual science, you’re not alone. McCullough concludes:
The irony of this situation is that most of us expect science to be conducted in the open, without unpublished secret data, hidden agendas, and computer programs of dubious reliability. East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit might have avoided this snafu by publicly disclosing as much as possible at every step of the way.
Most critics of AGW advocacy have never considered it science in the first place. This just shows that we were right; it’s a religious belief, and its high priests apparently have few scruples about rigging the models and the data to show what they want, rather than pursue science and the scientific method. Be sure to read all of Declan’s lengthy and excellent article.
Now — when will CBS put this on their Evening News? Or will they have to bump this for Katie Couric’s Poetry Corner?










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This will probably play out like ACORN. The media is going to ignore it as long as they possibly can. This story has legs, and I don’t see how anyone can stop it.
behiker on November 24, 2009 at 3:59 PM
If you’re careful, it can be a lot of fun.
BobMbx on November 24, 2009 at 3:59 PM
Fantastic report by Declan McCullough. I actually learned more about the situation from this article and I certainly hope CBS News broadcasts at least some of it on the Evening News. It would elevate CBS’ credibility even more if it would do a story on this on 60 Minutes.
rockmom on November 24, 2009 at 4:00 PM
I’m a mathematician familiar with the complexity of models. The model is not the reality. Models must be compared with reality in a continuous fashion and tweaked to fit reality, preferably by different mathematicians building different models with different codes and competing assumptions. The current climate models are interesting but not trustworthy — even those built by scientists with integrity. That takes time and far more work than has so far been invested. We are decades away from building a climate model that can be trusted to gives us reasonable results.
I recall meeting with some Canadian government programmers who were trying to do some economic prediction for the Canadian government. The results didn’t quite make sense and displeased the ministers who needed the data pronto. Solution: they built a program hidden inside the main program that generated the results the minister wanted to hear, regardless of the input.
Astronomy was once a science called astrology which was financed by rulers interested in predicting their future — which is why astrologers invented all sorts of ways of reading the stars and planets and comets to tell the bureaucrats what they wanted to hear — in the interest of staying employed and keeping their heads. Deja vu.
donbury on November 24, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Uh Oh, Guess all the greenie advocates will have to go back to selling aluminum siding,used cars and driveway sealer.
faol on November 24, 2009 at 4:02 PM
SOME reporters and SOME politicians will feel like a scorned woman and go after this.
I don’t know anyone that likes to be lied to or laughed at.
I want clever T-shirt sayings!!
“So if you believe in AGW if have some greenhouse gas for you”
barnone on November 24, 2009 at 4:03 PM
I was reluctant to characterize this as fraud and insteand was thinking that it was blind ideology or mindset that was causing it.
I admit: I was flat out wrong.
This is fraud.
SteveMG on November 24, 2009 at 4:04 PM
donbury on November 24, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Wow. It’s pretty pathetic..what is happening today…
People are stupid. That’s the conclusion I come to. I don’t care about climate models, etc. I come to the conclusion that people are ignorant and annoying. Damn.
bridgetown on November 24, 2009 at 4:04 PM
Good report!
I was unaware CBS had a journalist.
faol on November 24, 2009 at 4:04 PM
So, it appears that climatologists are nothing more than poorly funded special effects enterprises.
Why didn’t they just use Industrial Light and Magic? They know what the hell they’re doing when they make shit up.
BobMbx on November 24, 2009 at 4:04 PM
There’s a great deal of truth in that, but I’d also add that statisticians – professional statisticians – by and large do not lie with statistics. Certainly in my education we’re instructed and evaluated on our proper use of data and the fairness of our analysis. On the other hand, I found that statistical software being so easily obtained, results in many investigators routinely doing analysis that would have garnered me a ‘F in any of my statistics courses.
I had an investigator who had this complicated study and decided to use SAS to generate about 150 statistical tests and then sort through it, finding the signficant p-values. I told him that if he was using a 5% signficance level that he would generate 7 or 8 “significant” results purely by chance alone.
He published the results eventually (showing only the “significant results”) – and I asked that my name NOT appear as a co-author.
PackerBronco on November 24, 2009 at 4:05 PM
GE = Government Electric
Geochelone on November 24, 2009 at 4:06 PM
“I came for the global warming and all I got was this T-shirt”
BobMbx on November 24, 2009 at 4:06 PM
Hey guys… let’s cripple our economy just in case. You can never be too cautious.
bitsy on November 24, 2009 at 4:09 PM
We See B.S. and we report on it! Change you can believe in!
This is going to sting big time!
East Anglia CRU only gets a proper result by including a load of garbage, by their own admission.
Garbage in, garbage out.
How long before they cancel the meeting in Copenhagen?
Steve Z on November 24, 2009 at 4:15 PM
Wait. What does CBS mean, in the context of this story? Do you mean that CBS NEWS covered this?
I don’t believe it.
hawksruleva on November 24, 2009 at 4:18 PM
The trick is”quick and quiet”
katy the mean old lady on November 24, 2009 at 4:18 PM
ha HA
bridgetown on November 24, 2009 at 4:19 PM
That’s funny.
pedestrian on November 24, 2009 at 4:20 PM
global warming is just like liberalism…a big lie.
remember, everytime a liberal spouts his/her BS…its a lie.
right4life on November 24, 2009 at 4:22 PM
one of the major questions which I haven’t seen answered yet is how big of a player was this particular research facility? I’ve heard everything from NASA and the UN used them to not that big of a deal. Anyone know or should I check out some global warming site?
WitchDoctor on November 24, 2009 at 4:23 PM
“proper result”
Scariest two words of all the e-mail excerpts.
curved space on November 24, 2009 at 4:30 PM
Are these the same guys who came up with the “number of jobs saved?”
Star20 on November 24, 2009 at 4:30 PM
But–disgraced, former reporter, Dan Rather, said it’s O.K. to lie. Everybody does it.
Just go to recovery.gov and see how many jobs have been created or saved.
Or if you want to know how much ObamaCare is going to save the country, ask Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid–or the Congressional Budget Office.
It’s O.K. Go ahead.
Stepan on November 24, 2009 at 4:33 PM
They were/are huge players. Mann and Jones cooked up the “hockey stick.” They are instrumental in the IPCC. CRU is pretty much global warming alarmism ground zero.
Missy on November 24, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Just saw this:
Obama’s Science Czar John Holdren involved in unwinding “Climategate” scandal
via CFP
thebrokenchair on November 24, 2009 at 4:35 PM
I’m a dreamer – I dream of the day this hoax that has been years in the making is put in it’s proper place – the excuses for no new oil drilling and refineries are gone – we depend on our own oil and natural gas – and we can tell oil producers in the Middle East where they can put their oil and their hatred of the US…….it could happen
AusTex girl on November 24, 2009 at 4:38 PM
Amazing that it took a hacker to get the verification data for the global warming scam. Me thinks said hacker is due some kind of medal for their efforts.
docdave on November 24, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Wow. Thanks for the info Missy.
WitchDoctor on November 24, 2009 at 4:43 PM
Now all we need are some ‘mail fraud’ cases against Manbearpig… Let’s see if some lawyers can turn his $100 million back into the $2 million he had when he was VP
phreshone on November 24, 2009 at 4:43 PM
It wasn’t a hacker. It was a whistleblower.
http://www.examiner.com/x-28973-Essex-County-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m11d21-Who-leaked-the-Hadley-CRU-files-and-why
pedestrian on November 24, 2009 at 4:44 PM
Ya, junk in, junk out! LOL
Johan Klaus on November 24, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Whatever and whoever they are, they should still get an award for saving the planet.
docdave on November 24, 2009 at 4:46 PM
Coming next, the Joe the plumber treatment for the whistleblower.
Johan Klaus on November 24, 2009 at 4:47 PM
My pleasure. Really, this story couldn’t possibly be bigger, as scandals go. It’s incredible to watch it unfold in real time. If I weren’t so damn worried about ObamaCare I’d spend all my online time on it.
I think we’ll know soon who the hacker/whistleblower is.
Missy on November 24, 2009 at 4:48 PM
Yep. This guy just pulled the curtain away from a whole religion. They are going to pull out all the stops.
WitchDoctor on November 24, 2009 at 4:48 PM
RealClearPolitics.com, November 24, 2009
ClimateGate: The Fix is In
petefrt on November 24, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Anyone else notice the big, coordinated push that started abruptly on Sunday to make a case in favor of global warming? The AP has had a story every day highlighting the importance of the issue without mentioning skeptics. Though I acknowledge they did cover the initial e-mail story, it is like the pro-warming stories are being presented in a vacuum – pre-packaged and ready to go no matter what new, breaking evidence there is that this is all a scam.
Scranton on November 24, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Welcome to the darkside. Bwahaha
MarkTheGreat on November 24, 2009 at 4:51 PM
I am an old man and they say that you revert to your childhood when you get old. I hope that time is coming.
Johan Klaus on November 24, 2009 at 4:51 PM
That takes a man.
Johan Klaus on November 24, 2009 at 4:52 PM
Real good day….
BigWyo on November 24, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Please revisit the first rule of every model: check your assumptions!
ya2daup on November 24, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Yes, and not only is it a religion, but a religion funded with trillions of dollars of public money and actively trying to hobble the world economy…..during a recession.
Another reason I’m sure this is a whistleblower, probably w/in CRU, is the timing, with Copenhagen just around the corner.
The jig is up.
Missy on November 24, 2009 at 4:55 PM
I’ll second that. Though I’ll keep my original flippant response as well.
MarkTheGreat on November 24, 2009 at 4:56 PM
He did a good job pulling together the most serious things discovered in the codes thus far.
aikidoka on November 24, 2009 at 4:56 PM
Thanks to petefrt for the article linked at 4:49 PM. Very good summary with links.
Missy on November 24, 2009 at 4:59 PM
No, they’ll have to go back selling Che t-shirts and handing out Mao’s little red book! Or wait for a position in Oba-mao’s administration.
chickasaw42 on November 24, 2009 at 4:59 PM
As another person who is a professional statistician, please permit me to paraphrase Lloyd Bentsen: AGW modeling con artists, I’ve learned statistics, I know statistics, statistics is my livelihood. AGW modeling con artists, you did not practice statistics.
ya2daup on November 24, 2009 at 5:05 PM
Over on ABC, Charlie Gibson says ‘Hmmmm. Never heard of it. You guys on the internets (invented by AlGore) are pretty much on top of things. Probably doesn’t mean much though, since the NY Times said it was stolen and all.’
chaswv on November 24, 2009 at 5:06 PM
Can`t these people be taken to court or a criminal case be made against them for creating this fraud?
If taxes were/are raised or fees implemented based on this information, couldn`t a class action suit be instigated that the tax or fee is illegal because it is based on fraudulent information?
albill on November 24, 2009 at 5:07 PM
If these were really truly serious reporters they would be flooding all the global warming scientists with FOIA requests. When something happens on this scale it is more than likely that the other coconspirators have nearly identical emails and programming codes to manipulate the data.
Of course now that this is out of the bag, I believe I hear a big whooshing sound of incriminating data and emails being flushed down the memory holes of many ‘scientific’ institutions and universities and government offices.
eaglewingz08 on November 24, 2009 at 5:08 PM
Now that CBS has covered the story fairly straightforwardly how are the WashComPost and NYSlimes going to justify continuing their see no evil ‘reportage’?
eaglewingz08 on November 24, 2009 at 5:09 PM
Not in the US I don’t think.
chaswv on November 24, 2009 at 5:10 PM
You can’t be faulted for caution. Good on you SteveMG.
Weight of Glory on November 24, 2009 at 5:14 PM
nontroversy of the century
-chuckles
Andy in Agoura Hills on November 24, 2009 at 5:15 PM
Uh-researching global warming data over 10 yrs ago, I came to this conclusion on my own.
Crap in=crap out
Badger40 on November 24, 2009 at 5:17 PM
Thank you for your admission. However, I want to thank you for having held out for as long as you did over the weekend.
The worst damage that can be done to the credibility of science is for purported scientists to commit fraud. I was so angry at how much deception, obfuscation and shoddy science was illustrated in the released documents that I couldn’t think straight.
Drafting responses to try to answer you helped me to recover enough of a rational thought process that I was able to visit and clarify for myself what there was about each act and assertion in the CRU files that provoked my anger.
ya2daup on November 24, 2009 at 5:17 PM
Trying to whip up some Copenhagen Fever! before the whole house of cards crashes
ya2daup on November 24, 2009 at 5:23 PM
But the science is settled………..
erakis on November 24, 2009 at 5:25 PM
Why am I thinking that this revelation will enable some squishy republicans to back off from ill-advised comments of concern about AGW? It’s the perfect opportunity for them to appease conservatives who have been on their cases about it.
Let’s see if it happens–wouldn’t be a’tall surprised.
Bob's Kid on November 24, 2009 at 5:27 PM
When a “scientific” theory of climate totally ignores the obvious (like the sun and clouds), how do any serious people keep from laughing it off the stage?
And even those who choose to ignore how ridiculous AGW is should have paid attention to the fact that the theory has absolutely NO PREDICTIVE VALIDITY despite decades of attempts by its advocates.
AGW will go down in history as another “flat earth” theory, but notably posited in a time when people should have known better.
QUESTION: Is mankind fundamentally flawed such that ignorance and gullibility will always trump facts and science?
landlines on November 24, 2009 at 5:27 PM
I miss Michael Crighton.
Badger40 on November 24, 2009 at 5:35 PM
Statistics- a subject that should be taught in schools.
But then again, they’d just screw up that opportunity.
Badger40 on November 24, 2009 at 5:40 PM
\”East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit might have avoided this snafu by publicly disclosing as much as possible at every step of the way.\”Yeah, they could have posted all the data on the net some place and made an open source project out of coding the needed pieces to get it CORRECTLY into a database. It might have taken a while to do it, but they would have had several people working on different parts of the problem. A project as important as that would have attracted decent coding talent.
crosspatch on November 24, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Statistics- a subject that should be taught in schools.
But then again, they’d just screw up that opportunity.
Badger40 on November 24, 2009 at 5:40 PM
They would only screw it up 60% of the time. Funny, they have the time to preach the evolutionist mystery religion, but not statistics. Of course anyone with even a slight understanding of statistics could ever be brought into the evolutionist faith.
Jerricho68 on November 24, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Benjamin Disraeli:”There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.”
There were obvious tells – refusal to allow access to the data sets. Refusal to supply the programs used to work the data. Both are poor science, but SOP for propaganda.
On the second point, I believe they did supply some of their code to someone (possibly M&M) that had all the comments stripped out, and no readme files or anything to explain it.
I guess we know why now.
mojo on November 24, 2009 at 6:06 PM
I believe GISS (Hansen) provided GISSTemp code to McIntyre but I am not aware of CRU giving up any code. Might have, but I don’t recall seeing it and I have been following this for several years now.
crosspatch on November 24, 2009 at 6:12 PM
It’s settled science: AlGore is promoting a fraud.
Mallard T. Drake on November 24, 2009 at 6:17 PM
drinkingwithbob gets it.
I love this guys venue for venting.
Yakko77 on November 24, 2009 at 6:22 PM
Ed, you know as well as I do they’ll bump it. But if, by any chance, we end up being wrong . . . it won’t go away any time soon after that. The mere fact this got on CBS’ radar in the first place says something.
Yeah. Billions of dollars directed toward a new consumer market of “green technology” can’t be wrong as far as those guys are concerned.
It’s all about the money.
Truth doesn’t even come in a distant third.
Ryan Anthony on November 24, 2009 at 6:25 PM
Ideas are as subject to the imperatives of evolution as are biological beings. Ignorant ideas, well-meaning speculation, “believing and regurgitating lies,” bad deductions, etc, all act as intellectual “bad” mutations that have to survive out there in “reality.” Statistically they don’t do well. So no, ignorance and gullibility don’t triumph. But evolution is a slow-learner. Patience.
donbury on November 24, 2009 at 6:45 PM
Me too. I’d rather be aborted than euthanized, I think. Aborted, at least I would suffer the dread of it someday soon coming.
petefrt on November 24, 2009 at 7:31 PM
So if they took Milli Vannili’s Grammys away for being frauds, does that mean they will take away Algore’s Oscar? Oh, and the manbearpigs Nobel Peace Prize (and make him give back the million bucks too…
Wolftech on November 24, 2009 at 7:38 PM
Consider what a fine example these events are, of the contingency of human affairs. A computer filled with information devastating to a politically dominant science is hacked, the contents are released, and events take their course. But what if the hackers had not hit on the required hack to get in? Or what if the flaw in the computer’s security had been patched beforehand? Humanly speaking, might not the course of events over the subsequent two thousand years have been sharply different? So much depends on who’s on the spot first, the robbers or the guards.
Kralizec on November 24, 2009 at 7:41 PM
Gotta LOVE drinkingwithbob!
NY Conservative on November 24, 2009 at 7:59 PM
The criterion of natural fitness seems to be survival, and an opinion may thrive for reasons other than truth. Various powerful, though contradictory opinions have survived by holding men’s minds firmly for thousands of years. When those opinions lose their credibility, other powerful opinions take their place. It’s not at all clear to me that most human begins are converging on some truth. After all, most of them don’t share this opinion of mine, which although I hold it in prudent doubt, nevertheless at least seems to be true.
Kralizec on November 24, 2009 at 8:05 PM
drinkingwithbob is hard to beat, all right.
Ignorance is curable.
Idiocy is chronic.
warbaby on November 24, 2009 at 8:10 PM
the damn world is waaay to PC as it is, laff a little, you might like it.
NY Conservative on November 24, 2009 at 8:20 PM
I hope the hacker is really a disillusioned insider who is gathering more incriminating evidence of email and computer code destruction left by the roaches at CRU running from the sunlight.
KW64 on November 24, 2009 at 9:14 PM
I am SOOOOO hoping this starts all the dominoes falling. No more corn in the fuel supply, development of our own abundant natural resources, manufacturing jobs come back to the US, consumer prices start dropping, standard of living begins a dramatic rise across the board.
Please, GOD, please!!
Dominion on November 24, 2009 at 9:34 PM
Evolution has nothing to do with “truth” — it favors utility. When I was in grammar school, one of my friends stole a hunk of sodium from his father’s lab (a high school chemistry teacher). To save himself from being caught, he flushed it down the toilet — thus destroying the house plumbing in a very watery explosion. We didn’t imitate him. Evolution in action. Many ideas are utility- neutral, such as “girls with snub noses are pretty.” Many ideas are utility-positive under some circumstances and utility negative in other circumstances. On the other hand the idea that we all need to take a sh*t regularly is not going away soon. We can argue about what is true, but it’s evolution that will settle the argument — eventually. Watch evolution take care of the global warming theory one way or the other. In 1900 the best physicists could “prove” the “truth” that the sun was only 20,000 years old by invoking the iron-clad laws of thermodynamics. Evolution took care of that version of the “truth” — but extinction took half a century.
donbury on November 24, 2009 at 10:18 PM
I forgot about all the DO Loops in fortran. I ran my research on fortran in the 70′s When waterloo was fresh.
seven on November 24, 2009 at 11:04 PM
Way I see it…. when a witness is caught lie n on the witness stand… you disregard their entire testimony. It is Lunacy to try to discover truth from a lie R…. which is the same reason ANYTHING Obama says is given NO weight what so ever. I see that same position will now apply to the AGW crowd. It seems my decisions keep getting easier and easier.
roflmmfao
donabernathy on November 24, 2009 at 11:08 PM
Purple Avenger at Ace just posted this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEiLgbBGKVk
Jerricho68 on November 24, 2009 at 11:08 PM
Thanks for the encouragement.
Sometimes, though, it does seem like someone is tampering with the “fitness” data and thus polluting the gene pool and screwing up the whole “survival of the fittest” thing.
Do you suppose the IPCC is somehow involved gene pool pollution too? Is someone actually selling “ignorance credits”?
landlines on November 25, 2009 at 1:29 AM
The emails can be searched at http://www.eastangliaemails.com/search.php
mistersurefire on November 25, 2009 at 7:45 AM
Phil Jones got paid Kobe Bryant money. Over $25 million for his special effects.
How big? How important to Global Warming is this guy?
There are big screen graphs that Al Gore stands in front of in An Inconvenient Truth. First one is the hockeystick. The second one is Phil Jones HADCrut3 sea surface temperature graph. Remember this?
papertiger on November 25, 2009 at 8:40 AM
That’s what I’ve been telling my family and friends about statistics in general and Global Warming in particular for years now. I may not know enough statistics (undergraduate degree) to feel comfortable constructing a complex statistical model myself, but I know where all the weak points are and can tell when I’m being fed some bullsh–.
Sackett on November 25, 2009 at 10:07 AM
As many suspected. “global warming” is a Hoax perpetrated by the left to push their agenda.
dogsoldier on November 25, 2009 at 11:02 AM
Read the CRU mails for yourself. This site has a searchable DB built of them. Very user-friendly.
Psycotte on November 25, 2009 at 11:11 AM
Police Round Up Notorious Gang “The Hockey Stick CRU” in International Sting Operation http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/11/police-round-up-notorious-gang-hockey.html
Mervis Winter on November 25, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Check out Greg Gutfield’s commentary on Fox. The money quote:
“For fun, imagine if these leaked e-mails weren’t about global warming, but Gitmo or Dick Cheney or Sarah Palin’s private life. How fast would Time, Newsweek and an intensely sweaty Andrew Sullivan be all over them; calling these e-mails corruption of the highest order?
But they can’t do this here, because the lie is the lie that the media believed in. It’s their Watergate, so it’s no wonder there’s no Woodward and Bernstein to bring it down.”
Owen Glendower on November 25, 2009 at 12:26 PM
The problem with climate science is it has been political since day one. Grants were / are based on “proving” that the earth is warming and man is causing it. It’s the basis for tax increases. There is no other reason for the crisis especially for the UN (IPCC) who are nothing more than a bunch of dictators and socialists who want a piece of the American pie without doing anything.
Dasher on November 25, 2009 at 1:01 PM
Evolution = change in gene frequencies.
And that happens all the time.
Badger40 on November 25, 2009 at 1:24 PM
How long before computer hackers are added to the government’s list of “terrorist threats” along with right wing extremists, war vets and Tea Party attendees?
Sharke on November 25, 2009 at 2:11 PM
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