So…why does anybody out there still believe this has anything to do whatsoever with health care????

Dr. ZhivBlago on November 23, 2009 at 4:32 PM

It isn’t, but try to convince the left it isn’t.
If it was about health costs and care, then they would have first imposed more regulations…then tort reform, then more open competition to drive the prices down.
They would have allowed more doctors to enter school, creating more doctors, which would then drive the costs down.
But they didn’t and won’t…they need a bigger government, since the liberals depend on an ever expanding government to survive…kind of the Amway of rule…

Try that when you can’t even get in to see your doctor. Read up on many of the analyses on the effects on patient wait times. And, if you think that’s bad, wait until ’single-payer’ kicks in, and they outlaw private payments to doctors all together (see HillaryCare). The slope is awfully slippery.

Phil-351 on November 23, 2009 at 2:32 PM

Then you have the AARP which sells supplemental health care insurance for areas not covered.
As the coverage reduces, the AARP profits soar, and whomever they support receives the benefits. Not long until health care won’t be part of the “lobbying laws” since they will be under government control.
Another slippery slope…more slopes then a ski mountain…

Woman loses benefits over Facebook photos
Canadian, who was on sick leave, shown having fun at Chippendales, on trip

updated 3:05 a.m. ET, Sun., Nov . 22, 2009
BROMONT, Quebec – Photos on Facebook have cost a Canadian woman her long-term sick leave benefits.

…

But when a Manulife insurance agent discovered pictures of Blanchard having a good time, the payments dried up.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34089972/ns/world_news-weird_news/?GT1=43001

Under current Canadian coverage, you are not covered for long-term ailments, including cancer. Here is the link to Manulife:

http://www.manulife.ca/Canada/ilc2.nsf/Public/ilc_homepage

First, Coverme Flexcare-

Consider Flexcare:
If you are not covered by a group health plan
If you are not satisfied with the group health coverage you have today

And then FollowMe Health-

Consider FollowMe Health:
If you have recently lost or will soon lose your group health coverage.

Both found here: http://www.coverme.com/products/health-dental-insurance.jsp?lang=E&MKT=MFC&module=P

I thought that Canadian Health Care was free and universal, making it so individuals did not have to buy additions to their health care doled out by the government? Apparently that isn’t the case.

And here is the coverage in case you cannot work, CoverMe Critical Illness-

CoverMe™ Critical Illness Insurance
Few of us want to contemplate the reality of being diagnosed with a serious illness. Even fewer of us have given any thought to how we’d cope financially. And although the odds of surviving a critical illness are better than ever, consider these statistics*:

An estimated 70,000 heart attacks strike Canadians every year1.
Canadians suffer from more than 50,000 strokes per year1.
On average, 3,300 Canadians will be diagnosed with cancer every week2.

Living with a critical illness can be a huge challenge - not only physically and emotionally – but also financially. During your recovery, you may end up having to pay for healthcare services, special drugs and supplements, and homecare expenses not covered by your government health insurance plan. You might even have to travel, to get the medical attention you need.
http://www.coverme.com/products/critical-illness-insurance.jsp?MKT=MFC

Yes, we should look to Canada and see what our Health Care system will look like if Obamacare gets passed…we will have to pay for good care out of our own pocket, not to mention to cover any days lost from work. And I think we know where they travel to for that medical attention – the United States – for cancer.

Such would be the response from leftists…

Agreed…I’m stocking up on teabags.

That something is or isn’t covered by insurance is beside the point. Today, plenty of people are paying out of pocket for treatments uncovered by their insurance.

Nothing wrong with that.

AnninCA on November 23, 2009 at 1:47 PM

You fool. This isn’t some crazy mexican cancer treatment made from blue agave or the eye of a chupacabra, it’s a medically sound, successful prostate cancer detector. How do we go from it’s covered under your current plan to it’s not covered because we want to save money and not “alarm” you and be expected to like it?

Has any research been done to prove this? That the entire panel is in “cahoots” with Pelosi/Obama? And all of them are in agreement and keeping quiet, including everyone involved? Or is it just speculation due to the timing?

Did they lower the standards in anticipation of HillaryCare? I don’t recall this. So why didn’t they at that time?

This organization was created in 1984 under Reagan. So all this time the preventative standard recommendations were at the proper levels, and the Left was content because it primarily hurt the private insurers? Didn’t it also hurt gov-care along the way(29% of health care?)

I think someone needs to look into it more before jumping into too many conclusion. There are good enough arguments against Statist health care without tossing in conspiracy theories into the mix.

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I’m not against attempting to bring down costs associated with health care, but the proposals being considered do not do this; in fact they do the opposite.

Let’s eliminate the restraints inhibiting interstate purchase of health care insurance, and more importantly, let’s do something to reduce the burden on insurers, doctors, and ultimately patients that out-of-control trial lawyers, frivolous lawsuits, and unjustified punitive damage awards impose.

These steps, along with the reduction in fraud and abuse that the pushers of DEMCARE keep promising (and keep failing to explain how they’ll achieve) should bring down the costs of health care and insurance to reasonable levels.

If those 6,000,000 new jobs would actually be saved or created as we were assured by Ojesus and his congressional flunkies would happen, then more folks would be insured, the flood of money going to unemployment compensation would be slowed, and tax revenues would increase without raising tax rates. Then we could concentrate on lowering the deficit spending and our staggering debt.

Too bad that the Stimulus boondoggle turned out to be a colossal pipe-dream with an astronomical price tag that our future generations will have to bear, with no perceptible benefit to anyone.

“These new recommendations could have a devastating effect on African-American women,” said Marissa Weiss, M.D., director of Breast Radiation Oncology and director of Breast Health Outreach at Pennsylvania’s Lankenau Hospital.

Weiss, who is also the founder of leading online resource breastcancer.org, believes that given the unique impact of the illness on black women, USPST’s recommendations could prove disproportionately harmful.

“African-American women are more likely to get breast cancer than white women when they’re under age 40,” she said.

ukgoods on November 23, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Mustashes for Movember. Grow a mustashe to make the world aware of early protate screening.

I have no problem with best practices recommendations. The decision, however, still rests with the individual.

That something is or isn’t covered by insurance is beside the point. Today, plenty of people are paying out of pocket for treatments uncovered by their insurance.

Nothing wrong with that.

AnninCA on November 23, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Try that when you can’t even get in to see your doctor. Read up on many of the analyses on the effects on patient wait times. And, if you think that’s bad, wait until ‘single-payer’ kicks in, and they outlaw private payments to doctors all together (see HillaryCare). The slope is awfully slippery.

My husband was diagnosed with an aggressive form of prostate cancer when he was 55.

My brother-in-law was diagnosed with an aggressive form of prostate cancer exactly 1 year after my husband. They are both now cancer free.

Why are they alive? Simple. They live here in the US where they received bi-annual PSA screenings because of their family history. PSA screenings SAVE LIVES!

I can’t believe people vote for this…..

search4truth on November 23, 2009 at 2:07 PM

Neer waste a crisis. Who said that?
Anyone remember the Farmer Federalist letters?
Seems to me they were arguing about that before the Constitution was voted upon.
People were really concerned back then about not rushing into things just bcs there was a crisis.
History repeats itself & the sheeple are still none the wiser.

Today, plenty of people are paying out of pocket for treatments uncovered by their insurance.

Nothing wrong with that.

AnninCA on November 23, 2009 at 1:47 PM

And if BO gets his way, I won’t be able to access it no matter how much $$ I have.

This the same Ann that rails against greedy Drs. and insurance execs?

Just trying to keep up.

cs89 on November 23, 2009 at 1:53 PM

So if this is true, what’s the reponse, huh?
Personally, I don’t think Drs make enough, given what they have to go through & put up with.
No wonder we are experience a shortage of Drs.
How many of your Drs are now from foreign countries now?
Hmmmmm????

Via Hot Air, Dr. Bernardine Healy rips into Obamacare, noting that under the Democratic plan the government will be making choices about how you will be treated, not you, and not your doctor: The bill takes all sorts of choices……