Obama Science Czar John Holdren is directly involved in CRU’s unfolding Climategate scandal. In fact, according to files released by a CEU hacker or whistleblower, Holden is involved in what Canada Free Press (CFP) columnist Canadian climatologist Dr. Tim Ball terms “a truculent and nasty manner that provides a brief demonstration of his lack of understanding, commitment on faith and willingness to ridicule and bully people”.

The combination of wilful blindness and short-sightedness is amazing.

Most Muslims lead a minimalist lifestyle, easy on the environment, little co2 emmision. AGW propenent probably would like that.

How much CO2 will be expended for a pilgrimage to Haj every year?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3OxhCmCQ6c&feature=related

Polywater! LOL, I remember hearing about polywater waaaaaayyy back in the 70s. Something about it being the reason why Russian wheat stalks didn’t freeze up in the winter. Been a long time since I’ve even heard it mentioned. :-)

Oldnuke on November 23, 2009 at 8:50 AM

That was Lysenkoism, Polywater was what Vonneget wrote about in Cat’s Cradle. I happen to be taking a class on pseudoscience at college and these things were just discussed. My professor claims he’s agnostic on AGW but he’s a physicist who distrusts computer models in general and is well aware of how science is politicized. However, he teaches at a very liberal college that would probably boot him if he came out too strongly against the orthodoxy. They let him trash string theory but this college doesn’t a dog in that fight. Global warming, they do.

Those conversations led Gore to politically inconvenient conclusions in this new book. In his conversations with Schmidt and other colleagues at the beginning of the year, Gore explored new studies – published only last week – that show methane and black carbon or soot had a far greater impact on global warming than previously thought. Carbon dioxide – while the focus of the politics of climate change – produces around 40% of the actual warming.
Gore acknowledged to Newsweek that the findings could complicate efforts to build a political consensus around the need to limit carbon emissions.
“Over the years I have been among those who focused most of all on CO2, and I think that’s still justified,” he told the magazine. “But a comprehensive plan to solve the climate crisis has to widen the focus to encompass strategies for all” of the greenhouse culprits identified in the Nasa study.

Next we will find out that Al Gore has cornered the market on methane absorbers.

Just like in the courtroom, when the evidence isn’t on your side, try to muddy the waters in hopes of getting the jury to stop paying attention to the facts.

starfleet_dude on November 23, 2009 at 10:19 AM

The waters aren’t muddy at all.
Climate change happens.
Earth’s ecosystem copes with that change.
We have an incomplete understanding of the factors that influence our climate.
Man has some effect on the environment.
The sun has some effect on temperature.

We can agree on all of these, yes? With that information, a policy decision is easy to make. Prepare for eventual climate changes, which will happen with or without man. Expect change.

Even if the computer models are correct in the long run (while being wrong in the near run), the earth will still exist. Man may be wiped out, but lots of other species will thrive in our place. Why would we want to stop that? More likely, mankind will be subject to warm times and cool times, and eventually to hot times and cold times. That is the way of nature on our planet.

Burgher on November 23, 2009 at 10:11 AM

What’s also interesting about the emails is the level of understanding they have about many of the worlds problems. The writer looked into the UN’s talk about the problems of population explosion, and found that there was no problem to be afraid of. Indeed, he notes that Russia will be mostly Muslim soon. But he doesn’t consider the policy implications of that, nor does he wonder if he is involved in exactly the same sort of deceit that the population scare involved.

The combination of wilful blindness and short-sightedness is amazing.

Likewise, if the part of the theory that says this was put together as part of the review to Steve McIntyre’s FOIA request, exactly what contained with FOIA2009.zip, aside from the embarrassing conspiracy perpetrated by CRU employees, were the CRU officials trying to protect by denying the request.

Finally, the legal department of CRU found nothing strange reading this material that obviously reveals many unethical, if not illegal, acts by CRU employees ?

Frankly, the best course for the CRU and the University of East Anglia is to announce that a ongoing probe had been started on Nov. 12, 2009 into the actions of various employees of the CRU, from material that came to light because of a FOIA request.

I have been paying my taxes for these clowns to do their “Global Warming Studies” and they have been faking it?

Even if they deliberatly faked one element of one footnote, it is wrong.

SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!

Article:
Comment on “Reconstructing Past Climate from Noisy Data”
Eugene R. Wahl,1* David M. Ritson,2 Caspar M. Ammann3

von Storch et al. (Reports, 22 October 2004, p. 679) criticized the ability of the “hockey stick” climate field reconstruction method to yield realistic estimates of past variation in Northern Hemisphere temperature. However, their conclusion was based on incorrect implementation of the reconstruction procedure. Calibration was performed using detrended data, thus artificially removing a large fraction of the physical response to radiative forcing.

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/312/5773/529b

Alleged CRU Emails:1141187005.txt
I want to make a reminder about the embargo for release of the WRA Science comment article. Please do not disseminate this article to anyone else, or discuss it publically until it is actually published, which I know Science wants to do soon. I still believe citation is appropriate, and I have asked for clarification on this from the editors. I will let you know what/if I hear from them.
http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/search.php

Ripping quotes out of context from hacked private emails is just taking a page from the creationist handbook of denial.

starfleet_dude on November 23, 2009 at 10:19 AM

So, what this comes down to, is that your religion (Gaia, the worship of Mother Earth ) is in conflict with Christianity.

Plots 24 yearly maps of calibrated (PCR-infilled or not) MXD reconstructions
; of growing season temperatures. Uses “corrected” MXD – but shouldn’t usually
; plot past 1960 because these will be artificially adjusted to look closer to
; the real temperatures.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/22/cru-emails-may-be-open-to-interpretation-but-commented-code-by-the-programmer-tells-the-real-story/#more-13065

Such tactics are purely red herrings intended to distract people from the facts we do know about global warming.

starfleet_dude on November 23, 2009 at 10:19 AM

There’s the fact that we have no idea how much the earth has warmed in the last century, or even if actually did, do to the poor quality of the temperature sensor network.

Even if it did increase, there have been 4 even larger temperature increases during the last 5000 years, without benefit of CO2 enhancement.

The world has been cooling for the last decade, despite CO2 continuing to rise, something that was not predicted by any of the climate models.

Enhanced CO2 has been a boon for plants, allowing them to grow faster, stonger, and with less water.

The other planets in our solar system have been warming and now cooling in synch with the Earth.

And that’s just a start.

Ripping quotes out of context from hacked private emails is just taking a page from the creationist handbook of denial.

The E-Mails were not hacked. They have every indication of being released from the inside by a whistleblower. You can derive context from the E-Mails themselves. Why don’t you go ahead and call us Holocaust Deniers.

Such tactics are purely red herrings intended to distract people from the facts we do know about global warming.

Facts we do know about Global Warming. CO2 is a trace green house gas that is a percent of 1 percent of the Atmosphere and Man releases about 500 billion tons annually. But the Earth pumps 97,000 times that amount in Water Vapor every day in to the atmosphere. At no point in the record does CO2 force anything and infact preceeds temp by about 800 years. And CO2 is a crappy green house gas capable of absorbing IR energy in three narrow wavelengths. Sunspot activity correlates strongly to temp trends.

Just like in the courtroom, when the evidence isn’t on your side, try to muddy the waters in hopes of getting the jury to stop paying attention to the facts.

starfleet_dude on November 23, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Funny coming from a proponent of a Theory that does just that.

starfleet_dude on November 23, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Man up and kill yourself. For the planet.

I dare you to go to the searchable web site and read the email threads. Each thread is in context and reveals many levels of deceptions, cover-ups, arguments amongst the scientist and more.

Don’t be afraid. The truth will set you free.
http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=1037&filename=1254751382.txt

Ripping quotes out of context from hacked private emails is just taking a page from the creationist handbook of denial. Such tactics are purely red herrings intended to distract people from the facts we do know about global warming. Just like in the courtroom, when the evidence isn’t on your side, try to muddy the waters in hopes of getting the jury to stop paying attention to the facts.

starfleet_dude

Those against the “global warming” theory have maintained from the beginning that much of the evidence put forward by the global warming lobby is manufactured and stretched. These e-mails seem to confirm that manufactured evidence. Do these e-mails alone prove the case against global warming? No. But they do show the level of base corruption within the global warming lobby.