Glenn Beck: “I am developing a 100 year plan”
posted at 6:07 pm on November 21, 2009 by Allahpundit
- Education is key, and not just for our children. To that end, we will be conducting a series of conventions. These will be full-day experiences where you will be immersed in learning about topics ranging from self-reliance, community organizing, the economy and how to be a political force in your own neighborhood and country. The first one will be in Orlando at UCF Arena on March 27th…
- All of the above will culminate in The Plan, a book that will provide specific policies, principles and, most importantly, action steps that each of us can take to play a role in this Refounding.
- On August 28, 2010, I ask you, your family and neighbors to join me at the feet of Abraham Lincoln on the National Mall for the unveiling of The Plan and the birthday of a new national movement to restore our great country.
He mentioned the “100-year plan” this afternoon at The Villages too, reportedly framing it as a way in which we need to “think like China.” Which … is an interesting model for a libertarian to emulate. Plenty more at that link, including Beck supposedly all but calling for the end of the two-party system. That’s according to a blogger who was tweeting it as it happened; reserve judgment until we get verbatim quotes from news reports later. I’ll update if/when we do.
The NYT interviewed him about all of this, and while he was tight-lipped about specifics of The Plan, “he made clear that he intends to help elect politicians aligned with his limited-government world view.” A quote from the piece:
Mr. Beck rejects the labels like “leader” for himself, saying he is “comfortable with the title of ‘citizen fed up.’”
August 28, the date of the D.C. event, happens to be the anniversary of the “I Have a Dream” speech. Given the allusion to the Lincoln Memorial in Beck’s letter, I’m guessing that’s no coincidence. Eschewing the title of “leader” is thus a curious display of modesty from a guy who thinks his book launch is worthy of a modern-day March on Washington with him in the MLK role. No doubt he’s using the date and location as an homage to King, and will cite his example in bringing about another necessary “Refounding” of America. But I’m willing to bet that that’s not how it’ll be received; it’ll be treated as a window onto his ego and an endless opportunity to sidetrack his movement with racial politics. This is, after all, the guy who famously accused the first black president of having a “deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture.”
Here’s YouTube vid from his book signing this morning. Exit question: Aren’t all his books versions of “The Plan”?
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Most people think that something that other people do is crazy. Allah thinks that there is no God; I differ with that opinion. I like chocolate ice cream. Allah probably likes yogurt better. Now that would be crazy.
Johan Klaus on November 22, 2009 at 1:13 AM
Conservative Voice, I think you should learn the difference between belief and religion. For example Catholicism relies on a lot of non-biblical nonsense and focuses too much on “The Church” (their capitalization, not mine).
But for both of you, the point is historical evidence, from my POV, anyway. NOTHING supports Mormonism, but archaeology regularly confirms what is written in the Bible. One can claim that they demand evidence of the supernatural if they like, but there is physical evidence supporting so much of the Bible that it would seem to hold a lot more weight than one guy who claimed to have seen some tablets that only he saw.
RightWinged on November 22, 2009 at 1:22 AM
RightWinged on November 22, 2009 at 1:22 AM
And yet we have hundreds of various churches who claim their interpretation of the Bible is the correct interpretation…even within the same religion!
I think you need to learn that just because you don’t understand it, or even agree with it, doesn’t make it false, silly, crazy, etc. and by extension…those who practice it must be mental wack jobs who are brain washed.
As I have said countless times, you can’t prove religion. Its faith, based somewhat on logic, but mostly its from the heart. You can’t prove one religion to be false anymore than you can prove it to be true…only God can do that. You can make strong compelling arguments, but being a great debater doesn’t make it true or false.
Conservative Voice on November 22, 2009 at 1:31 AM
I’m sorry, RightWinged, but you’re wrong on both counts here. Much of what is written in the Bible is directly refuted by other sources, even the existence of Jesus Himself. In fact, there is a strong case that the Bible represents a retelling of older myths from Egypt, Assyria, etc. It has to be taken completely on faith.
As to “Mormonism,” it actually has quite a bit more historical evidence than you give it credit for, including parables found in the Book of Mormon that are also found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, but not the Bible or other sources; stories found in the Book of Abraham that are also found in ancient Jewish sources discovered in the 20th century; descriptions of cities and fortifications in the Book of Mormon that match archaeological evidences found in the 20th century; etc. Of course, none of that proves anything — once again, it has to be taken completely on faith.
sockpuppetpolitic on November 22, 2009 at 1:41 AM
I am not a big fan of Beck’s, and in many ways, I tend to be more of a centrist conservative like AP.
But I gotta give Beck the benefit of the doubt with his 100 Year Plan. That seems to be a lot more thought out than endlessly whining about being a beta male.
JeffB. on November 22, 2009 at 1:49 AM
The data is from 2007, last time I checked that was “two” years. And FOX is doing even better now. So don’t worry your little head–or better yet find me something to refute the numbers. Otherwise–STFU
lovingmyUSA on November 22, 2009 at 1:50 AM
Religious experience is absolute. It cannot be disputed.
You can only say that you have never had such experience,
whereupon your opponent will reply, “Sorry, I have.”
And there your discussion will come to an end.
— Carl Jung (1875-1961)
Loxodonta on November 22, 2009 at 1:57 AM
I just about reached my fill of Glen Beck. Good work on Van Jones and Acorn and way to go on pissing off the left but way way to much grandstanding at this point.
I think he will have his own TV cable channel before long along with his own line of cologne and aftershave to go along with the Glen Beck Running show
kangjie on November 22, 2009 at 2:03 AM
Ah, another late night RINO confession when you think nobody is around to notice.
From my study of Allahpundit, I believe he has devoted an immense amount of time and thought to being a beta male. Certainly more time than Glenn Beck has done on his 100 year plan.
Loxodonta on November 22, 2009 at 2:05 AM
It got your attention though, did it not. It kind of remimds
me of the farmer who had a mule that would follow his every command. One day the farmer told the mule to start plowing and the mule just stood still. The farmer took a two by four and hit the mule up side of the head. The farmers wife ask him why he hit the mule. The farmer said that sometimes you have just got to get the mules attention.
Johan Klaus on November 22, 2009 at 2:13 AM
An oxymoron, no?
Johan Klaus on November 22, 2009 at 2:17 AM
Sixth Guard on November 22, 2009 at 12:30 AM
So is it your contention that we shouldn’t have any liberals on this site?
lovingmyUSA on November 22, 2009 at 2:21 AM
You’re for smaller bigger government?
nico on November 22, 2009 at 2:27 AM
They should at least cowboy-up and admit that they are liberal, instead of saying; as a life long conservative….., I have always voted republican, but now…..,ect., ect., ect…….
Johan Klaus on November 22, 2009 at 2:39 AM
Not necessarily. It depends on what he meant. Liberals tend to have American Conservative Union ratings of below 20, and usually below 10. Conservatives have a rating above 80 and usually approaching 100. Centrists have a rating around 50. So, what would you call someone with an ACU rating of 60 to 75? They aren’t centrists, but they aren’t really conservatives either.
Loxodonta on November 22, 2009 at 2:39 AM
Hmm that makes one a Republican doesn’t it? As opposed to a Conservative?
Thank you Lox for the defense. And others but Lox’s was spot on.
As a “silly” completely converted Mormon. I take deep offense at the rude and juvenile posters who spew hatred toward me and mine.
Do you think that you can spew such and not be offending someone? There are millions of us you know. And we are conservative and we are extremely well educated and active politically. Why would you want to live in such a way as to give offense to your political allies?
And who exactly asked you to pass judgement on my religion? As you judge so will you be judged. And not by me.
petunia on November 22, 2009 at 2:42 AM
I am afaid that if I went down the center of the road, that I would get run over from both directions.
Johan Klaus on November 22, 2009 at 2:43 AM
I couldn’t quite figure that one out. It’s like some social conservatives think that libertarians aren’t really conservatives, but liberals, and some libertarian conservatives think that the social conservatives aren’t really conservative but are just really annoying or something. And everybody hates the moderates and centrists.
As to the few liberals here, I won’t mention any names, but I do know one who deserves regular spankings. Unfortunately he seems to enjoy that far too much for me to provide that service. Darn it.
Loxodonta on November 22, 2009 at 2:48 AM
Would you people please stop attacking Beck because of his religion?
Sheesh! You are the same people that gave us Carter and Huckabee.
Thanks for nothing.
scotash on November 22, 2009 at 2:48 AM
An independent?
Johan Klaus on November 22, 2009 at 2:48 AM
Germany 1933. Juden. Das ist die Schuld der Juden!
Johan Klaus on November 22, 2009 at 2:54 AM
That is what happens to them when they are in office. They are hated by both liberal and conservative activists. However these mushy middle “squishes,” the RINO’s and DINO’s who meander down the center, back and forth, from issue to issue, never straying too far in one direction or the other, happen to make up a large segment of the voting population, sometimes upwards of a third. So, I’d prefer to draw them onto our side of the line than push them over to the other side.
Loxodonta on November 22, 2009 at 2:57 AM
Why shouldn’t someone who believes Mormonism is a man-made religion feel free to say so? It sure looks to me like you’d rather have them keep quiet than talk about that, if they so choose…
Bizarro No. 1 on November 22, 2009 at 2:58 AM
But, it is fun to make them show their stripes.
Johan Klaus on November 22, 2009 at 2:59 AM
Many people call any religion man made. Hitler was one of them.
Johan Klaus on November 22, 2009 at 3:05 AM
So what that he did? It doesn’t bother me in the least if people like him say whatever they want about any religion. Does it bother you?
Anyway, that doesn’t address the question I asked.
Bizarro No. 1 on November 22, 2009 at 3:13 AM
Contention among believers comes from one source.
I will defend your right to believe as you do. But I will not pretend that the things you say about me and mine are good or honest when they are not.
A wise man… a Lutheran, I believe, once said that when people compare their own religion with another they compare their own best with other people’s worst. And that leads to a dishonest argument.
For a true comparison best should be compared with best. I am willing to do that. I believe you gain much strenghth and inspiration from your mode of religons. I don’t wish to quarrel with anyone.
I think your belief in God is a positive force. I do not try to belittle you. The fact that someone feels the need to belittle the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does say something about what they truly worship.
I proudly take the name of Christ upon me. For some reason that angers some.
petunia on November 22, 2009 at 3:17 AM
Did I defend you?
I’ve known many very wonderful Mormons who seemed to be good people and good Christians in everything I saw them say and do. To me, that counts a whole lot.
Loxodonta on November 22, 2009 at 3:23 AM
Not me personally, but an earlier post was a quote about judging another person’s religious experience.
You were probably talking about Beck’s religion. But as it is the same as mine…
petunia on November 22, 2009 at 3:26 AM
So, according to you, someone who believes that Joseph Smith is a false prophet is being deceived by Satan. Ummmm…
I care about truth more than I care about religious beliefs. If someone’s religious beliefs are incongruous with reality, sorry, those religious beliefs are by definition false, and people shouldn’t be afraid nor discouraged from saying so if that’s what they want to do.
Bizarro No. 1 on November 22, 2009 at 3:27 AM
I don’t believe in Mormonism. It is not my faith.
Happy now?
Loxodonta on November 22, 2009 at 3:30 AM
Ya, Hitler bothers me a lot. And, you are entitled to your opinion; at least until Obama says that you are not.
Johan Klaus on November 22, 2009 at 3:31 AM
There! I found it. It was Lox! But it was also Carl Jung! D’oh!
petunia on November 22, 2009 at 3:34 AM
Nope! Because I was asking that question of petunia, a Mormon, not you!
Bizarro No. 1 on November 22, 2009 at 3:35 AM
“deceived by Satan”; My eyes must be getting bad and I read her post twice and did not see that statement.
Johan Klaus on November 22, 2009 at 3:37 AM
I wasn’t defending Glenn either. I was defending the right of each person to experience their own relationship with God, or the lack of one, in their own way. To me, that’s between the individual human being and God.
To me, freedom of religion is an extraordinary value of American culture. It means I don’t have to be a Mormon, and you don’t have to be a Catholic, and Allahpundit can be an atheist, and I can love each of you anyway even though I think your beliefs about religion are incorrect.
Loxodonta on November 22, 2009 at 3:41 AM
And what is your religion?
Johan Klaus on November 22, 2009 at 3:42 AM
I know from my own experience with God that Joseph was a prophet chosen to restore the fullness of the gospel to the earth. This church is true. The Book of Mormon is the word of God. This is something that you refuse to believe and that is your right. God will not force you.
I will not even ask you to believe it. But I know it is true. It is a knowledge that started as faith but as I have exercised that faith in Jesus Christ it has grown into the most sure thing there is on this planet. I know. By my own experience I know.
petunia on November 22, 2009 at 3:45 AM
Do not attempt to hijack this thread into a religious debate.
lovingmyUSA on November 22, 2009 at 3:47 AM
Here, let me help you.
petunia said, “Contention among believers comes from one source”, and, “The fact that someone feels the need to belittle the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does say something about what they truly worship.”
From my experience with Christianity, I’d say it’s a very fair inference that the source for contention among believers that she was referring to, and what she believes belittlers of Mormonism are worshipping, is Satan.
Can you give me any reason to think I might be wrong about that?
Bizarro No. 1 on November 22, 2009 at 3:47 AM
That is all any of us should ask of each other. Just a bit of respect.
petunia on November 22, 2009 at 3:49 AM
I am a non-denominational Christian.
Bizarro No. 1 on November 22, 2009 at 3:50 AM
Remember, CJ’s trolls come out at this time…
lovingmyUSA on November 22, 2009 at 3:52 AM
Too late!
I have a plan to debate religion for 100 years!
Is that close enough?
Glenn Beck has ADHD. Why can’t this thread?
I heard Brown Creepers while raking up nearly the last of the leaves today. Their calls notes and songs are very sweet.
There are too many liberals posting here!
Look! A pony!
Awwwww….
Loxodonta on November 22, 2009 at 3:54 AM
Sorry, been there done that… sorry. Last thing. Then I move on.
Contention among believers does come from Satan, but that doesn’t mean “worship” it means temptation…
And I believe the person who started all this is more apt to be worshiping their own intellect or supposed religious superiority. Or some other ego baseed worldly thing.
I truly don’t think many among all the earth actually worship Satan. Nor would I accuse someone of doing such a thing.
If I sounded like I was accusing you of that I’m sorry.
petunia on November 22, 2009 at 3:56 AM
Bizarro No. 1
so do you think the idea that god impregnated a woman and gave birth to himself is based on reality then my friend?…whats the difference between that and Joseph Smith having a vision and seeing god and the father?
do you believer that a donkey actually spoke? whats the difference between that and god giving a man revelation and a record of another people who believed in christ on a different continent?
dirksilver on November 22, 2009 at 3:56 AM
I need help in making a new list. There are just so many new trolls. Please send me the names of any you believe you have identified. Especially the very clever ones who could fool an idiot like me.
I know it’s a lot of work, but the links for actual trolling posts would also be helpful. Do you know how to do that? You copy the link for the time stamp of the post.
If this is too much, then just send me the link for anyone that really irks you.
You don’t have to include me in the list. I already know how irritating I can be. Thanks!
Loxodonta on November 22, 2009 at 3:59 AM
don’t step on my being a latter day saint and i wont step on you being a non-denominational christian Mr.Bizzaro
dirksilver on November 22, 2009 at 4:01 AM
So, according to you, someone who believes that Joseph Smith is a false prophet is being deceived by Satan. Ummmm…
I care about truth more than I care about religious beliefs. If someone’s religious beliefs are incongruous with reality, sorry, those religious beliefs are by definition false, and people shouldn’t be afraid nor discouraged from saying so if that’s what they want to do.
Bizarro No. 1 on November 22, 2009 at 3:27 AM
Sigh, once again…you believe that Joseph Smith is a false prophet…fine, that doesn’t mean he is a false prophet. You can’t prove that he is nor can you prove that he isn’t. Your perception isn’t necessarily Reality, your argument may persuade…but its not a mathematical proof. It is your opinion, your belief…you are entitled to your belief and I am entitled to mine.
The problem I have is people create religious flame wars, so instead of creating an environment where like minded conservatives can unite and take on our common enemy…they create a hostile environment that forces many to waste time to defend their very honor…if not their sanity…Its wasted energy, offensive to many, and dangerous…as some have flat out discounted Glenn Beck because of his religion ( there is a word for that )
What she was referring to, is the spirit of contention is of the devil.
Conservative Voice on November 22, 2009 at 4:01 AM
I remember a quote about assumptions.
Johan Klaus on November 22, 2009 at 4:03 AM
If this is too much, then just send me the link for anyone that really irks you.
Loxodonta on November 22, 2009 at 3:59 AM
Yikes! I’m really sorry!
I don’t even think Beck is right about everything. Especially about starting a third party! That sound counter productive to me.
I just got offended at people questioning his ability to think because he was Mormon!
And actually that’s past. I don’t usually hold grudges. Accept against Huckabee. For some reason I just can’t get past how he acted in the Primary!
And I do know I need to get past that at some point.
petunia on November 22, 2009 at 4:04 AM
The problem with judging religions’ ‘truths’ by subjective experience is that anyone can say from their own personal experience that their religion is the right one, and everyone who doesn’t agree is wrong. Muslims think they’re right on that basis, Mormons do too, etc.
We are all free to do that, of course. I just want to establish that “personal experience” it’s no way to ascertain the objective truth about a religion’s claims.
I agree with you about this sentiment, but more broadly than you I think; “respect” includes allowing people to be critical of what any of us believes, in this case someone questioning Beck’s judgement because of his conversion to Mormonism. If that’s the standard s/he wishes to use, sobeit.
Bizarro No. 1 on November 22, 2009 at 4:06 AM
Huckabee certainly help give us McCain.
Johan Klaus on November 22, 2009 at 4:08 AM
My son says that people that are my age should not drive, but that is not going to stop me. Now where are my keys.
Johan Klaus on November 22, 2009 at 4:11 AM
petunia
it’s cool to know that other saints or on this site! neat stuff!
and to bizarro the idea though is that in america is supposed to be a place of religious freedoms and to condemn someone because of their religion is discriminatory
dirksilver on November 22, 2009 at 4:14 AM
If people came to political blogs for religous enlightenment I would agree. But that is not the case. And there is a word for someone who dismiss people of a religion different from there own, on the basis of that religion.
And it is not a nice word.
Of course people have “right” to offend anyone they wish but I have a “right” to defend myself.
I am perfectly sane. I am of above average intelligence. I am a Mormon. There is nothing silly in the least about Mormonism. It is true.
I make a point not to criticize other people’s deeply held beliefs just as the courtesy of being in polite society.
And believe me if I wanted to I could say many unpleasant things.
But I choose to remember who I am and who you are and to afford you the respect you deserve as a child of God.
petunia on November 22, 2009 at 4:14 AM
dirksilver on November 22, 2009 at 4:14 AM
I should have gone to bed long ago… I have a class tomorrow. Sometimes I get riled. Good night.
petunia on November 22, 2009 at 4:22 AM
petunia on November 22, 2009 at 4:04 AM
I’m having a hard time forgiving Huckabee too :) But would we have Palin if it weren’t for Huckabee? The Lord works mysteriously for sure.
Conservative Voice on November 22, 2009 at 4:23 AM
dirksilver on November 22, 2009 at 4:14 AM
It is nice to see several members who are actively engaged in a good cause :)
Conservative Voice on November 22, 2009 at 4:24 AM
Loxodonta on November 22, 2009 at 3:41 AM
well said.
Conservative Voice on November 22, 2009 at 4:28 AM
Yes I do.
The difference is, I don’t believe Joseph Smith had that as a real experience.
I don’t believe every religious person’s claims about the supernatural in regards to starting new religions. I tend to disbelieve them, rather vehemently. I don’t believe David Koresh was the Messiah, for instance, even though he claimed it was the truth.
Bizarro No. 1 on November 22, 2009 at 4:33 AM
If I were to say that Mormonism is bunk, and that people who convert to it are using bad judgement, that wouldn’t be a legitimate case of ‘stepping on your toes’, even if you felt like it was. If I were to call someone an idiot for doing so, that would be a legitimate case. But, that isn’t what I have been doing here – I am not concerned with debating the veracity of Mormonism right now.
My point is that if someone rejects Beck because they don’t trust his judgement because he decided to convert to Mormonism, everyone, including Mormons, should respect that person’s right to do so without getting defensive and/or attacking the person for doing so. I understand that isn’t easy for many people to do, but it is the right thing to do.
If Mitt hadn’t been a Mormon, I believe he’d be President right now. His Mormonism wasn’t/isn’t a dealbreaker for me, but I accept that it is for many others. That’s not my nor anyone else’s business that it is, just like it isn’t my nor anyone else’s business that many Conservatives sat out and/or voted for Bob Barr or whomever last election because they couldn’t stand McCain.
Bizarro No. 1 on November 22, 2009 at 4:53 AM
Bizarro, I don’t think we have an argument. You recognize that you and I believe differently…the key word being belief. The argument I was having is with those who question a person’s intelligence even sanity if they happen to be Mormon.
I don’t believe in everyone religious person’s claims either…nor would it be prudent to do so. I don’t hold it against people to question the validity of Joseph Smith’s story…there is nothing wrong with asking questions, even thinking that a certain belief is strange…however, where I draw the line is when the questions aren’t out of respect but out of gotcha ( not accusing you doing that )…and making claims that your a total idiot if you believe a certain way. My all time favorite ( sarcasm ) is when they spread half truths and lies as a way to make themselves “more” true. That kind of debate is counter-productive and destructive. There is too much at stake to banter with each other on whose religion is more true…we both believe ours is true…and you can’t prove it anyway…for me as long as your religion is helping you be a better person, then it is good.
Conservative Voice on November 22, 2009 at 4:58 AM
Assumptions aren’t necessarily bad or foolish; they are just hypotheses, afterall. Their (mis)usage should be judged by how far out on limbs you are willing to go with them.
Bizarro No. 1 on November 22, 2009 at 5:11 AM
How’s this: People who don’t want any part of Beck’s effort to save us from impending destruction can hang in there with Government and society the way it is. How’s it been working for you? The rest of us will work to create change that preserves our freedom.
Doers do, and critics sit in front of their computers and criticize.
davecatbone on November 22, 2009 at 7:15 AM
Someone up there alluded to it.
Maybe it’s going to require a state(s) and some bold governor(s) to say “Enough is enough”.
Not a full blown secession (yet), but rather a Constitutionally based repudiation of D.C.
Now that, my friends, would be a beautiful thing.
justltl on November 22, 2009 at 8:24 AM
While so many people are trashing Beck over his religion, his passion, etc. He is out there making a difference by pointing out facts regarding both parties and what’s happening in this administration and the last one.
I believe in God and Jesus Christ; I don’t care if someone else questions that. We can have a good debate on the topic. What I object to is anyone who is unwilling to get past their religious bias and deal in facts. I’m not a mormon, but that doesn’t stop me from hearing the facts Beck puts forth and respecting his courage and love for this country. Facts are facts, that’s what I want. Just give me the truth. I seldom take Allah’s opinion seriously because I know his bias interferes with his judgment on many issues. I believe those people who scream the most about Beck fear the truth he finds and exposes to the people.
texanpride on November 22, 2009 at 8:25 AM
One Year Plan.
Make all candidates sign pledges that they will drastically reduce spending and lower taxes for small businesses, AND to fully investigate Obama and his cabal of corruption.
marklmail on November 22, 2009 at 8:32 AM
I’m all for “the Plan”… I’m pretty sick and tired of the Republicans and Democrats acting like Thelma and Louise, and those folks has us (all) in the back seat of the mustang heading for the cliff…
Khun Joe on November 22, 2009 at 8:54 AM
I like Beck, but the whole commedian/pundit thing has it’s limitations. This is a good example. Is it a joke, or is he serious, or is he kinda joking-serious?
bitsy on November 22, 2009 at 9:16 AM
Beck may be pushing for a third party challenge. If he does he will be confirming a Democratic majority.
davod on November 22, 2009 at 9:24 AM
I thought we already had a plan. It’s called the Constitution. We don’t need to change it, we need to enforce it.
BetseyRoss on November 22, 2009 at 9:55 AM
Allahpundit, do you find such a concept unthinkable? I don’t. It’s clear that he is not behind the Founders or the Constitution, he apologizes for every war we’ve fought, he dismisses the Judeo-Christian roots of our people. He dismisses American exceptionalism and the “can do” spirit of the American people, and offers (nay, imposes) the nanny state instead. I DON’T recall him harping about slavery (something practiced long before America was even a reflective glint in Columbus’ eye); he alludes to it, of course, in the stew of misbehavior which characterized the US until 1/20/2009. But he doesn’t need to; there are plenty of his supporters (like Jeremiah Wright and Jesse Jackson) to do it for him so that he can continue pretending to be post-racial.
When I listened to his ideas last summer, I thought he was either vastly ignorant or malevolent in his plans for America. At this point I would conclude that he is both. He is striving to bring this country to its knees economically and militarily, and once we’re saddled with the debt from his health care plan, we won’t be able to afford to deploy troops on the scale we do now. He’ll bring them home as part of his domestic “protection” and community service plan. Have you forgotten about that? I can assure you that the White House hasn’t.
I think these goals require both hatred and contempt for America as it has been and is today, and Beck correctly identifies this as a crossroads for America. Education IS key – although I agree that his reference to China is an inappropriate example to choose!
Free will is inherent, and virtue most be chosen, not imposed by government. The easy path is not the way to self-fulfillment, and no one has a right to take the “easy path” of slackerism, while expecting his hardworking neighbors to make up the difference.
Some people are desperate right now, and willing to sell out their children’s futures in exchange for being taken care of now. The problem is that the government cannot afford to provide a middle class existence to all of its citizens. They need to go out and apply themselves to earn it. Anything else is morally repugnant.
disa on November 22, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Barack Obama: From ‘Dreams of My Father’,
“I CEASED TO ADVERTISE MY MOTHER’S RACE AT THE AGE OF12 OR 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites”
Barack Obama: From Dreams of My Father, ” I FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASIVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER’S RACE”.
Barack Obama: From ‘Dreams of my Father’, “The emotion between the races could never be pure….. the THE OTHER RACE (WHITE) WOULD ALWAYS REMAIN JUST THAT: MENACING, ALIEN AND APART”
Barack Obama: From Dreams Of My Father, “never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. IT WAS INTO MY FATHER’S IMAGE , THE BLACK MAN, THE SON OF AFRICA, THAT I’D PACKED ALL THE ATTRIBUTES I SOUGHT IN MYSELF.
Barack Obama: From Dreams Of My Father:
“THAT HATE HADN’T GONE AWAY,” he wrote, BLAMING WHITE PEOPLE,- SOME CRUEL, SOME IGNORANT, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives.”
The President is clearly a racist. It’s not even arguable.
labrat on November 22, 2009 at 10:04 AM
If there’s a split on the right, there will be a split on the left as well. Mark my words, people who have been voting Democrat because their parents and grandparents voted Democrat are bewildered at what “Democrat” has come to represent – the Progressives. The Tea Party movement isn’t only Republicans – not that people who depend on the lamestream media for news would know about that.
Many citizens are bewildered by what is happening because they don’t understand how capitalism works. It’s been so smeared and regulated that it’s not recognizable. They don’t understand the implications of the Obama administration’s goals. Their actions since they assumed control have produced wave after wave of uncertainty in investors. Not the Monopoly guy, but people like you and me. With all of the uncertainty as to the next monstrous bill to be passed by Congress, who in his right mind is going to expand his obligations?
Most Americans consider themselves to be conservative – we need to find out what they think conservative means.
disa on November 22, 2009 at 10:08 AM
Thank you – I wanted to quote that, but didn’t have time to research.
disa on November 22, 2009 at 10:09 AM
Yep. I actually believed that the Democrats might have a point, and then Andrew Sullivan appointed himself forensic gynocologist to Sarah Palin. I must have been insane.
disa on November 22, 2009 at 10:16 AM
I totally forgot that Democrats have their own birthers.
Holger on November 22, 2009 at 10:19 AM
If you see Democratic control of Congress and the White House as a runaway spending train that has to be stopped, and you are a Democrat, what do you do?
disa on November 22, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Beck wants us to do something to stop an authoritarian President doing it to us, this is not a bad thing.
We have to get out of peoples personal lives, period!
Anything else is hypocrisy.
Speakup on November 22, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Surely you jest!!
disa on November 22, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Goldwater’s Warning: Religion in Politics
October 01, 2009 by Toussaint McCall
Speakup on November 22, 2009 at 10:20 AM
The liberals are seizing our language, too – right out of Orwell. “Extremism” is one of those words.
disa on November 22, 2009 at 10:24 AM
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Fantastic post, I could not agree with you more!
Metanis on November 22, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Good for Beck! It is nice to see an ordinary citizen make a solid attempt to change what they feel is wrong. It is very funny to watch the very people who whine and cry everyday about our current government, whine and cry about an individual who takes it upon themselves to make real change. I don’t know if he will be successful, but I do appreciate his efforts to shake things up, and ultimately I think that is the intent. I plan on supporting in any way I can.
gator70 on November 22, 2009 at 10:51 AM
Shouldn’t the tea party movement or someone set up a boycott of New Orleans and the entire state of Louisiana? If rogue politicians can give out $300 million dollar bribes there must be some way for the People to make them pay for their crime.
miles on November 22, 2009 at 10:59 AM
This is actually what I think most Americans would say was Conservatism!
The China thing is weird especially in light of the Dunn/Mao thing. Beck lacks consitency sometimes. I believe the left would call that “nuance”,
But at any rate if we are to ensure liberty survives another generation we need to secure it!
Beck’s point about a 100 year plan is valid. The Progressive Movement began more than a century ago. And it has become multi-generational.
And Progressivism has become the path of least resistance! If you just go along to get along… we become socialist. Because they have a multi-generational plan.
Most Conservatives have assumed that our principles spoke for themselves and they would be passed naturally to the next generation. But that ignores the aggressive proselytizing of Progressives. They have filled our schools and our entertainment and our whole society with propaganda that will decay individual freedom!
If liberty is what we want for our children’s children we better get it back.
And I think Beck is right that we can’t take for granted that Americans know anything about where and why we became the society we are. Why we are free. Why much of the world modeled themselves after us. I don’t think it is even taught that societies have found inspiration in what our progenitors did.
We have so much to lose and so little to gain from socialism.
To undo the harm that has already been done we need to act.
petunia on November 22, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Now that I think of it (esp. in view of Dunn’s remarks), I suspect he was being tongue-in-cheek.
disa on November 22, 2009 at 11:48 AM
Because the teachers’ union owns our children’s education. We need to get education out of the hands of the federal government.
disa on November 22, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Thanks very much for posting that.
Loxodonta on November 22, 2009 at 12:12 PM
Another thing we have to address forcefully is the left’s contempt for average people who reveal and oppose their agenda. People like Joe the Plumber. Sarah Palin, of course, is no “average” person, having accomplished much more already in her life than many – but she lacks that lefty pedigree with which the “intelligensia” drape themselves. I find it insulting, and I know a lot of people do likewise.
I believe the Founders intended us to select leaders from among ourselves, not from a select pool – a political class – of dynasties and affiliations. Frankly, wasn’t that what getting rid of the nobility was all about?
The left reeks of “let them eat cake.”
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2009/11/16/who-do-they-think-they-are.php
disa on November 22, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Since you do not know what someone is thinking when they make a statement, then it is your opinion that they meant a certain thing; unless, of course, you are the thought police.
Johan Klaus on November 22, 2009 at 12:40 PM
Al Sharpton redux.
Johan Klaus on November 22, 2009 at 12:52 PM
I remain underwhelmed by Beck, other than he’s rather funny at times.
AnninCA on November 22, 2009 at 12:54 PM
My pleasure.
Speakup on November 22, 2009 at 1:04 PM
a hundred year plan
ha ha ha that is so f*cking stupid
Dave Rywall on November 22, 2009 at 1:36 PM
Well now that is a very intelligent comment by you.
What, exactly, is wrong with long term planning?
rbj on November 22, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Even the thought police don’t know what you are thinking, you reductionist fool.
disa on November 22, 2009 at 1:44 PM
It’s true that the Founding Fathers hoped that the Constitution would hold for at least 20 years.
Long term planning has to be basic and make sense, because any deviation produces serious problems down the line. The Obama administration wasn’t even able to predict 6 months down the line.
All the more reason we need to pry their fingers from the neck of America.
disa on November 22, 2009 at 1:48 PM
a hundred year plan
ha ha ha that is so f*cking stupid
Dave Rywall on November 22, 2009 at 1:36 PM
Well now that is a very intelligent comment by you.
What, exactly, is wrong with long term planning?
rbj on November 22, 2009 at 1:42 PM
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It’s empty rhetoric and a waste of time.
He has no idea what the world will look like in 25 years, let alone a century.
It’s just stupid, but the stupid people drink it up.
So, chug away. Glug glug glug.
Dave Rywall on November 22, 2009 at 2:02 PM
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