Interestingly, the staff from Always Pimping/AP stole a copy of Sarah Palin’s book, ripped the pages from it’s cover, scanned it to make 11 books, so 11 Pimps could tear it apart 5 days prior to being published. They make up their own rules as they go along. “Fair Use”? HA!

That’s NOT true. The Bishops didn’t fold on Abortion!!!

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White House at odds with bishops over abortion

Nov 20, 8:30 AM (ET)

By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR

WASHINGTON (AP) – The White House is on a collision course with Catholic bishops in an intractable dispute over abortion that could blow up the fragile political coalition behind President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul.

A top Obama administration official on Thursday praised the new Senate health care bill’s attempt to find a compromise on abortion coverage – even as an official of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops said Sen. Harry Reid’s bill is the worst he’s seen so far on the divisive issue.

The bishops were instrumental in getting tough anti-abortion language adopted by the House, forcing Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., to accept restrictions that outraged liberals as the price for passing the Democratic health care bill. Reid, D-Nev., now faces a similar choice: Ultimately, he will need the votes of Democratic senators who oppose abortion to get his bill through the Senate.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091120/D9C39JS81.html

2 If this Health Care catastrophe passes, to further rub salt into taxpayers’ wounds it will fund abortions. And, even more salt, if you refuse to pay for for health care which funds abortions, you are subject to fines and imprisonment.

What happened to the Party of Thomas Jefferson? It has become the Party of William Jefferson.

dhunter on November 21, 2009 at 12:02 PM

AMEN!!!

I don’t care about the links. I am talking about something else entirely. The very fact that women get these tests every year came from the recommendations of some government panel. Now some other government panel is saying that maybe some women, especially younger women are getting too many tests. They probably are.

The point is that every single in the US could get a breast exam every other month, and only so many of them would ever benefit, because only so many of them would ever develop breast cancer. So, for the women who do not get the disease serves no purpose. And more of the women who get the disease are older women, so they tend to find an abnormality more often than the younger women and so the tests are more beneficial for them.

The same is true with pap smears.

In fact, I think a lot of women have been over charged for years, getting tests they more often than not do not need, just so someone else can make money.

Now, if you want for your own peace of mind to get these tests, then you can, if you want to pay for them. And the truth is a lot of these tests should be paid out of pocket anyway. How much would a yearly pap and mammogram cost someone?

I agree that abortion has destracted from the full horror of the bill.

Yes and no. The problem is that the Dems don’t blink at the non-abortion-related arguments against the bill. They are Dems, after all. These are the same people who already voted for the stimulus and cap and trade (in the House). They have the votes and they simply DO NOT CARE about fiscal arguments, or mandates, or public opposition, or coverage of illegals, or anything else.

Abortion is so far the ONLY thing that has made them even remotely skittish about passing this horrific bill.

So we can whine all we want about how abortion is a distraction, but the numbers have been against us all along. We’re lucky to have anything AT ALL that is causing them to hesitate.

Did anyone really believe federally-funded abortions would not be included?

IowaWoman on November 21, 2009 at 9:50 AM

Anyone who’s been paying attention knew that this bill would include taxpayer-funded abortions, as well as taxpayer-funded healthcare for illegal aliens. The Democrats’ promises to the contrary were always blatant lies — as Joe Wilson so memorably pointed out.

Any info on Byrd?

Will he show?

artist on November 21, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Yeah, after he gets his robe and hood dry-cleaned and pressed.

Terrye on November 21, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Breast Cancer Screening and “Soft” Death Panels

DrRich must therefore remind his readers that bias is inevitable in clinical research, and those who control the process get to control the bias – and therefore control what turns out to be medically right and wrong. Further, clinical research of any kind only tells you about the average response within a large group of patients, and cannot tell you how specific individuals will respond, or which specific individuals are likely to respond differently from the average, or which individuals would – if given the opportunity – weigh the risks and benefits differently than a panel of experts thinks they should. In other words, what we are getting with such a system is group medicine, and not individualized medicine.

So, the hallmark of soft death panels will be to take clinical evidence collected in groups of patients – interpreted with an overwhelming bias toward reducing costs – and to institutionalize and enforce the application of that evidence to individual patients. Soft death panels will be in the business of interpreting clinical evidence in the service of covert rationing, and the results will be packaged and sold as science – pure, sweet, clear, and unassailable science.

Sebelius Is Wrong – The USPSTF Is Setting Policy

The USPSTF, to be renamed the TFCPS, will review the clinical science AND THE COSTS of preventive medical services and give them a grade based on those findings. The grade will determine whether a preventive service is covered or not. Services that receive a grade of A or B will be covered, otherwise, not. Most strikingly, the current activities of the USPSTF – including its new recommendations on breast cancer screening and coronary artery screening – will become official healthcare policy, and will directly determine coverage, as soon as the new healthcare reform plan is passed.

In fact, even before we actually have healthcare reform, the plan has been implemented. This week, we are seeing it in action. The “recommendations” of the USPSTF on breast cancer screening – protestations of Ms. Sebelius to the contrary notwithstanding – are indeed intended to be dispositive.
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For practical purposes, perhaps it matters little whether we are being led by the ignorant, by liars, or by people who are cleverly deceptive. Whichever is true, we are in a bad state, and the results of such leadership will affect us profoundly in many ways.

But whatever the balance between ignorance and deceptiveness among our leaders, it should be clear to all that the war on preventive medicine – long predicted by your sad correspondent, DrRich, as a necessary component of covert rationing – has officially begun.

In all fairness, no one is saying women can not get pap smears or mammograms. They are just saying they don’t have to get them every year. Personally, I think that women were scared into getting too many tests in the first place..by the same type of government panels who are now telling them they don’t have to get so many.

Terrye on November 21, 2009 at 10:57 AM

I tend to agree they were scared into getting too many tests, but I believe the science/statistics behind them was sound. It’s like the popcorn warning that came out yesterday. Yeah, it was a statement to scare people straight but it was scientifically BAD (but so’s a Hardee’s burger).

These more recent statements from the government are REALLY scary. Because they’re not for the good of the people. They’re for the good of the government. Which is NOT what the government of the United States is about. It doesn’t exist to protect or sustain itself.

Which is why this health care bill is BAD.

Mr. Joe on November 21, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Among many things:

a VAT?

An excise tax on high-cost “Cadillac” health insurance plans that cost more than $8,500 a year for individuals or $21,000 for families,[2]

A cap on the exclusion of employer-provided health insurance without offsetting tax cuts,[4]

These latter two are a head-I-win-tails-you-lose proposition.

An increase in the estate tax,[24]

The federal estate tax disappears in 2010 for a year (seniors, watch your backs) and is supposed to return to the rate brackets before the Bush tax cuts. Are Dems calling for the top FET rate to exceed 55%?

I imagine many libs would by into that. They seem to love China and its totalitarian control of reproductive rights.

CWforFreedom on November 21, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Unfortunately, so do an alarming number of my CF friends. :(

Q. Does insurance cover the cost of an abortion?
A. Almost two-thirds of insurance companies cover elective abortion to some degree. Contact your insurance company to find out if you are covered.