Glenn Beck planning some kind of big announcement tomorrow
posted at 6:46 pm on November 20, 2009 by Allahpundit
At a rally Saturday at a massive retirement community in central Florida, Beck is planning to unveil what he has billed as a “big plan” for 2010, which is expected to involve the 9.12 Project, the group he started earlier this year and named for the day after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, when he says the nation was unified.
“Coming this January, my whole approach changes on this program,” he hinted cryptically on his Wednesday show. “This next year is going to be critical and I think it’s going to change and I think we are going to set it right, at least set our course right. And if that means the Democrats or the Republicans are destroyed along the way, well, good. Good.”
He’s been hinting about a “big plan” for weeks. Marc Ambinder speculated last month that it might be a massive voter registration/GOTV drive; that may well be true given that the announcement’s taking place at The Villages, Florida’s most famous retirement community and ergo a symbol of a district where voter turnout is perennially high. And yet, there’s got to be more to it than just GOTV, doesn’t there? Telling people to go out and vote wouldn’t require a change in the “whole approach” of his show. Endorsing particular candidates and telling people to go out and vote for them would. Presumably he’s going to declare the launch of his very own PAC.
And if he does, given his nonchalance about the destruction of the GOP, then what? Let’s say his PAC endorses Rubio, who goes on to lose narrowly to Crist in the Florida primary. Will the PAC be indifferent in the general election? Or will it actually call on conservatives to stay home and not vote to protest the lack of a true small-government choice among the two candidates? This is what I mean when I say that, theoretically at least, he’s on a collision course with Limbaugh. As much as Rush hates RINOs, he’s made it perfectly clear that he’s prepared to elect them and accept half a loaf instead of none at all. Beck, it increasingly seems, is not. Which way, true believers?
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*Sighs*……..Dude, please don`t blow our only chance to knock out those donkeys.
ThePrez on November 20, 2009 at 6:50 PM
popcorn, stat!
homesickamerican on November 20, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Beck is going to announce that his appendix will be running for the Libertarian Party in 2012.
Bishop on November 20, 2009 at 6:51 PM
Someone with any scruples is better than the asshats in there now.
Sink the Dems in any way, then work it up from there.
geez.
bbz123 on November 20, 2009 at 6:51 PM
I’ll wait and see what the announcement actually is before making up my mind.
Emily M. on November 20, 2009 at 6:52 PM
Couldn’t do any worse than the diseased organs in congress now.
thomasaur on November 20, 2009 at 6:53 PM
I’d rather put up with some RINO’s and have a GOP (and more conservative relative to Democrats) controlled Congress than feel good about being ‘pure’.
gwelf on November 20, 2009 at 6:53 PM
seriously, though: if he (or palin, for that matter) launches any kind of movement that results in a 3rd party taking away votes from republicans or handing victory to obama in ’12 or more congressional democrats next year, they are both dead to me.
homesickamerican on November 20, 2009 at 6:53 PM
wonder if he is going to do something with the campaign for liberty people or Paul
offroadaz on November 20, 2009 at 6:53 PM
I’ll wait to see what his plans are but I’m leaning towards Glenn. I’m tired of being f’d in the a by rinos.
Monica on November 20, 2009 at 6:53 PM
He’s also been saying he’s going to be changing the format for next year too. I guess we will know more tomorrow.
Brat4life on November 20, 2009 at 6:53 PM
Beck in The Villages? Wow, I better tell my dad….
jbh45 on November 20, 2009 at 6:53 PM
Allah, as much as you’d like to see a fight tonight on HotAir, it’s all speculation at the moment. It’s like asking someone if they’d swear to vote for Palin right now!
We don’t know what she’s doing, nor do we know what Beck is doing.
I’ll wait to see his announcement before I delve in to fight your straw men.
therightscoop on November 20, 2009 at 6:53 PM
I really like Beck, and he’s really important in the overall picture, but I’ll go with Rush on the 3rd party issue.
BadgerHawk on November 20, 2009 at 6:54 PM
Meh. Glenn is just going to keep doing the same crap. He’s just trying to make it sound all dramatic to get attention.
SoulGlo on November 20, 2009 at 6:55 PM
From chalkboard to whiteboard. It’s a brave new world.
BadgerHawk on November 20, 2009 at 6:55 PM
Palin already said she is sticking with the republicans and isn’t going to go 3rd party.
Brat4life on November 20, 2009 at 6:55 PM
BadgerHawk, Beck doesn’t want a third party either. he just want’s real conservatives in the republican party.
therightscoop on November 20, 2009 at 6:55 PM
Thats the best advice, so far he hasn’t disapointed me so lets wait and see.
fourdeucer on November 20, 2009 at 6:55 PM
The Villages, Florida’s
most famous retirement communityfriendlist home town.Tony737 on November 20, 2009 at 6:56 PM
You just described nearly every radio and TV talk-show host and in existence.
Dark-Star on November 20, 2009 at 6:56 PM
Why is he going to a retirement community? I don’t understand this location at all.
KrazyKewl on November 20, 2009 at 6:56 PM
Wait and see. I’ve learned to trust Beck’s instincts.
davidk on November 20, 2009 at 6:57 PM
Well, if it really sucks, I’ll just have to settle for ‘V for Vendetta’.
Skandia Recluse on November 20, 2009 at 6:57 PM
He’s trading in his blackboard for a “smart board.”
(They looked so cool when he was at his kid’s parent-teacher conference.)
notropis on November 20, 2009 at 6:58 PM
I’m a poor student with no tv… did the hacked emails make it on to fox news? I know I don’t have to ask about CNN…
AdrianG on November 20, 2009 at 6:58 PM
one more reason to like her!
homesickamerican on November 20, 2009 at 6:58 PM
Beck is going to tell me how many MRE’s I need to stock up on.
How many 30 round mags for my AR.
What kind of AR I should get. CMMG? Colt? Maybe wait for the ACR to come out?
Then we’re gonna talk about the rally point.
;)
It’s gonna be awesome!
RarestRX on November 20, 2009 at 6:59 PM
Those are my choices? Beck or Rush?
*yikes*
AnninCA on November 20, 2009 at 6:59 PM
Beck’s number one priority is Beck.
Terrye on November 20, 2009 at 6:59 PM
That’s a lot of speculation up there AP.
How about we wait to see what Beck’s new direction is before kicking him out of the party? Isn’t that the kind of thing Moderates usually don’t like?
Dark Eden on November 20, 2009 at 6:59 PM
Maybe he’s starting an alternative to AARP.
Christian Conservative on November 20, 2009 at 7:00 PM
Believe me, I’m not one to talk, but wouldn’t The Villages be an ideal place for a self-proclaimed beta like Allahpundit? Great place, has everything you could dream of, the only catch is no eligible young women. But, in AP’s mind, that just means not even the chance of rejection and pity, right? So win-win?
AdrianG on November 20, 2009 at 7:00 PM
Really? I could be wrong (and I’d like to be) but Beck seems to push the ‘we need a founding father to set things straight’ message a whole lot more than the ‘we need to take back the party’ message. He’s stated that he’d rather see a ‘RINO’ lose than support someone who’s not on board with everything – I’ve heard him argue with callers about going with a good candidate rather than the best your going to realistically get candidate.
One of my big concerns with Beck is that he wants big change NOW – he doesn’t seem patient enough to kick the Democrats out of office and THEN put the GOP’s feet to the fire holding them to conservative principles and weeding out corruption. In some ways he seems headed into the same situation the liberals have landed themselves – taken an opportunity once in power to overreach and try to do it all at once.
gwelf on November 20, 2009 at 7:01 PM
I definitely think the focus turns more towards party purity and less towards the leftists in the WH. To what degree, who the heck knows? Part of me thinks that Beck kinda wants to apply the Reagan Cold War approach to this. Make people worry that he’ll try to take a wrecking ball to the whole thing if the establishment doesn’t sit the sidelines with the Crist’s of the world.
Kinda like how he thrives on torturing Anita Dunn, he wants to keep moderates squirming in hopes they freeze up in their mobilizing behind the establishment porkers.
stldave on November 20, 2009 at 7:02 PM
I will swear it right now. I don’t care what office she’d be running for, or who she’d be running against, I would vote for Sarah Palin in an instant. No hesitation. I swear that now.
KSgop on November 20, 2009 at 7:03 PM
Beck/Palin 2012!!!!
Well, someone had to say it.
bridgetown on November 20, 2009 at 7:03 PM
Beck, for all of his occasional hyberbole, is the only person speaking truth to power.
Seriously, has there been a serious journalistic effort to pierce the fog of George Soros and his vast web of left wing “non profits” and their associations with public employee unions with their generous pension funds that are controlling the entry points where tax dollars roll in and then are divied out?
It seems Beck and Big Government.com are the only voices even pointing to this systemic co-opting of local and Federal governmental bodies by this left wing cancer.
rickyricardo on November 20, 2009 at 7:03 PM
That’s a damn lie.
bridgetown on November 20, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Wow…it’s STRAWMAN time!
almost every comment envisions a horrible thing Beck might do, and then villifies him for it!
It’s like MINORITY REPORT around here.
(a) wait & see
(b) Beck is having a more profound and POSITIVE effect on the Conservative movement right now than just about anybody!
Period.
Justrand on November 20, 2009 at 7:04 PM
As much as I like Beck I can’t forget about his love-fest with Ron Paul.
If you ask me to side with either him or Rush, the choice is obvious.
Cylor on November 20, 2009 at 7:04 PM
That’s odd I was thinking more along the lines of being prepared for a more serious economic downturn.
Cindy Munford on November 20, 2009 at 7:04 PM
She could be running against Jesus himself, and I would still vote for Sarah Palin. She IS America. She IS conservatism.
KSgop on November 20, 2009 at 7:04 PM
You can never have too many. It’s impossible.
Bishop on November 20, 2009 at 7:05 PM
Civil disobedience! Go Galt! Squeeze the Feds’ money supply! Quit paying greens fees! Don’t pay HOA fees! Move to Scotland!
Hell I don’t know…but you fool me into clicking on Politico.
d1carter on November 20, 2009 at 7:05 PM
another thing beck has talked about on the radio show is splitting up the country along crazy lib/decent people lines and building a huge wall to keep the soon-to-be-desperate libs from crawling back. maybe that’s what he’s gonna suggest!
AdrianG on November 20, 2009 at 7:05 PM
Maybe he found Obama’s birth certificate and starts a nationwide campaign to get him impeached.
fourdeucer on November 20, 2009 at 7:05 PM
jumping the shark
Daveyardbird on November 20, 2009 at 7:06 PM
Guaranteed huge audience.
Cindy Munford on November 20, 2009 at 7:06 PM
Beck is going to sing his famous hit “Loser”.
Bruce NV on November 20, 2009 at 7:07 PM
My aunt is going since she lives in The Villages. I truly think he’ll create a PAC.
cubachi on November 20, 2009 at 7:07 PM
I’ll take “pundits that put you to sleep” for $600 Alex.
Rovin on November 20, 2009 at 7:08 PM
Beck is the greatest. Van Jones, ACORN, Anita Dunn, Obama radicals, etc. – all brought to the forefront because of Glenn. I definitely trust him.
Narutoboy on November 20, 2009 at 7:09 PM
If he announces a third party and sucks votes away from Republicans, allowing liberal Democrats to retain control of Congress ala Ross Perot’s screw up, I’m done with him. He can piss off at that point.
I’m as disenchanted with the GOP as the next conservative. And I’d usually rather have a liberal Dem who can take blame than a liberal Republican. But someone who may be conservative on 3/4 of issues? Running a candidate against him and letting the lib Dem have the seat in the interest of purity?
No.
amerpundit on November 20, 2009 at 7:09 PM
My point isn’t really contingent on the new direction, though. Just look at that boldfaced quote. He claims to be ambivalent as to the choice between Dems and Repubs. Small-government pols, of whichever party, are his focus now. Which is super, but in a lot of elections people don’t have a choice between small-government pols. They have a choice between big and less big. I keep asking but no one keeps answering: What’s Beck’s plan for elections like those? Hold your nose and vote GOP, thereby enabling statist Republicans? Or suppress turnout by staying home?
Allahpundit on November 20, 2009 at 7:10 PM
Not sure here, just guessing. But given, even in this short clip, his focus on individual responsibility, I’m wondering if this isnt some sort of inititive to get people out of debt, or maybe start on an Constitutional Amendment to require no additional debt in Federal budgets, something like that. He really has been focused on the money aspect of it for the last couple of weeks. I think that’s the direction he’s going. Exactly HOW he is planning to do that is beyond me right now.
JamesLee on November 20, 2009 at 7:10 PM
Bleach > Naruto
*slinks out*
Emily M. on November 20, 2009 at 7:11 PM
I like Beck and do agree when he says the GOP has problems, however, I don’t agree with him when he says they’re “just as bad as the Democrats” and that “it’s not about ideology”. It’s taking the populism a bit far.
CP on November 20, 2009 at 7:11 PM
You can always skip my posts, you know. No law (yet) requiring you to read them.
Allahpundit on November 20, 2009 at 7:11 PM
I appreciate both of these sentiments – they have been my guiding philosophy for close to thirty years. Picking the lesser of two evils however has resulted in us picking the evil of two lessers. It has gotten us to where we are and it’s indicative of a disconnected populace. A populace that thinks its duty has been served by simply casting a ballot.
I have twin grandbabies growin up in Florida and I can’t keep from thinking what will happen to their futures if we allow the rinos (Gingrich, McCain, Graham) to continually play us in much the same manner that the statists are. Republicans who are centrists when no one is looking and all of a sudden, conveniently conservative when the tide seems to start shifting away from liberalism.
How many of us actually thought we saw the light at the end of the tunnel with Newt’s “Contract”. We simply cannot afford to play that scenario again.
I believe that to truly galvanize the conservative electorate, we must grow a set and give middle America something to rally around.
If we can’t win with integrity, then perhaps the game isn’t worth winning at all.
oldfiveanddimer on November 20, 2009 at 7:11 PM
He has made himself a target. On O’Reilly, he said he had to explain to his kids why they have to have guards around their own home. You actually think he would put himself out there like this for his own personal gain?
Narutoboy on November 20, 2009 at 7:12 PM
I’m on the same page you are. I love this man and maybe he’s thinking it’s already to late too fix the mess, thus getting us prepared?
Other than that, I’ll wait for his announcement before blindly speculating.
Knucklehead on November 20, 2009 at 7:12 PM
I watch Glenn everyday but this reeks of the Fonze waterskiing
Daveyardbird on November 20, 2009 at 7:12 PM
I’m not going to answer a question based solely on speculation. I’ll wait until I find out exactly what it is he is talking about but my guess is whatever it is he is doing is not going to be as earth shattering as he leads us to believe.
Remember the countdown to what was under the curtain? Talk about anti-climactic, I knew exactly what was under that thing the day he announced it.
Daemonocracy on November 20, 2009 at 7:14 PM
You lie! I like both, so I’m cool. :-P
Narutoboy on November 20, 2009 at 7:14 PM
If that equals more than 20 million$ year, who would not?
rightistliberal on November 20, 2009 at 7:14 PM
I predict he’s going to launch his own personal brand of chocolate pudding.
The Ugly American on November 20, 2009 at 7:14 PM
Or run another, Paul-like candidate against him and succeed in sucking enough GOP votes away from the less-than-perfect Republican to give the election to the liberal Democrat.
But we’ll be pure.
amerpundit on November 20, 2009 at 7:14 PM
There does seem to some action there.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/9283707/detail.html
Aviator on November 20, 2009 at 7:15 PM
I didn’t say I didn’t like Naruto. I just said Bleach was better. ;)
Although I do think Naruto has gone on waaaay too long.
Emily M. on November 20, 2009 at 7:15 PM
Retirees is a huge chunk of the population and only getting bigger with boomers leaving the work force, if they can leave now. I think they number somewhere around 80 million all told. Sounds like a good base to go after if he can get them. It is Beck, who knows what is coming, although I am sure the administration wishes they knew,
bluemarlin on November 20, 2009 at 7:16 PM
Sponsor a third candidate? I mean, isn’t that the obvious implication?
apollyonbob on November 20, 2009 at 7:16 PM
He’s on track for making $18 million a year. Wouldn’t you?
amerpundit on November 20, 2009 at 7:16 PM
Yeah. Like Hoffman, you’ll always lose no matter what, so why try, right?
apollyonbob on November 20, 2009 at 7:17 PM
Me too. He’s mentioned something about an ark. This week he’s been talking almost exclusively about the debt and it’s consequences.
txhsmom on November 20, 2009 at 7:18 PM
A pansy liberal with inverted balls.
Not Beck.
Seriously, he cares for his country and doesn’t just say what he does for kicks.
Narutoboy on November 20, 2009 at 7:18 PM
I pledge my vote to Palin. Let’s do this!
kagai on November 20, 2009 at 7:18 PM
Beck real problem is he is hanging around Bill O,Reilly to much.Bill is trying to get him to moderate his views.This will destroy Beck if he is not careful.
thmcbb on November 20, 2009 at 7:18 PM
They’re both getting kind of lame, tbh.
Dark Eden on November 20, 2009 at 7:19 PM
Maybe he is planning on adding prayer cloths, and anointed water to his shows offerings. I have tried to give Beck the benefit of the doubt, but I see him as a destructive force for the GOP with his silly antics.The prob is that a whole lot of people are buying his routine hook, line, and sinker.
Southernblogger on November 20, 2009 at 7:19 PM
That was my take from earlier this week, also. I picture him teaming up with Dave Ramsey, or something.
notropis on November 20, 2009 at 7:21 PM
Yawn. You really believe in markets? Because liberals don’t! Hear Friedman sometime. Jeebus! You behave as if you were born yesterday!
rightistliberal on November 20, 2009 at 7:21 PM
That is really the only thing that bothers me about Glenn, he could have picked a better partner to stump with or just stump on his own.
fourdeucer on November 20, 2009 at 7:21 PM
You squishy’s need to wake up. I’ve been predicting a conservative boycott since the scum crist declared for the race. The liberals certainly have a mental disorder but at least they take a stand. You dolts who think there is some kind of middle on every issue are stupefying.
peacenprosperity on November 20, 2009 at 7:21 PM
Hoffman was a special case. Scozzafava wasn’t a less-than-perfect conservative. She was a liberal and belonged registered to the Democratic Party.
Beck is talking about not caring if the GOP is destroyed in the process of whatever he’s setting up. What we don’t need is someone who votes with us 85% of the time and can win, losing because we also ran, on a third party, someone who would vote with us 95% of the time but doesn’t have a chance.
Like Rep. Thaddeus Mccotter (R-Mich). He’s regularly on Red Eye and clearly expresses conservative positions. But he supported the auto bailout because he lives in Michigan. Do we want him replaced by a liberal Democrat because we ran a third party candidate against him and they split the vote?
amerpundit on November 20, 2009 at 7:22 PM
I’m still holding out hope that Beck steals Erica Hill from CNN.
mad saint jack on November 20, 2009 at 7:22 PM
I can appreciate that – I wonder what kind of world I’ll be raising my children for but my concern is what happens in the interim if we decide on purity over just picking the lesser of the two evils in an effort to eventually get to the point where we no longer have to pick between to evils.
With Democrats/liberals pushing universal healthcare, cap and trade, blah blah blah there is simply way too much at stake to risk.
gwelf on November 20, 2009 at 7:23 PM
I’m leaning against it being a PAC. Beck is a guy who thrives on saying he doesn’t like any of these people. He more or less says it every day. He isn’t a person that is too eager to put his name next to any individual politician. So how would that work? Who’s he going to stand with out there? He’s much more comfortable standing against than for. I’m just not sure if that is exactly where he goes with this.
stldave on November 20, 2009 at 7:23 PM
I honestly haven’t been keeping up with Naruto for about a month. The past few chapters of Bleach have been lame, cause they went back to Ichigo. Before, that it’s been awesome with the Vizards…and I finally turned against Gin because of what he did to poor Hiyori! I was actually in shock after I saw that.
Emily M. on November 20, 2009 at 7:23 PM
Bluto: What the f**k happened to the Delta I used to know? Where’s the spirit? Where’s the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you’re gonna let it be the worst. “Ooh, we’re afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble.” Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I’m not gonna take this. Wormer, he’s a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer…
Otter: Dead! Bluto’s right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody’s part.
oldfiveanddimer on November 20, 2009 at 7:23 PM
Why not Rubio as third party then? Why boycott? Pansies!
rightistliberal on November 20, 2009 at 7:24 PM
The RINOs that are targeted need to be picked carefully. I am for a directed effort at getting say 1 or 2 big targets only if the conservative has a better than even chance of winning. I don’t think a blanket “vote out the RINOs” strategy is going to help us right now.
WisCon on November 20, 2009 at 7:25 PM
Hoffman had a shot at winning.
gwelf on November 20, 2009 at 7:25 PM
The Villages are about thirty minutes from my house. I have been debating on wether to go or not. Last time Palin came, it was a zoo. Those old people are crazy on golf carts.
Indian Outlaw on November 20, 2009 at 7:26 PM
Too early to know what “it” is. BUT if he is starting a PAC or backing someone, I’m with him. I want a true conservative. I, too, want someone that doesn’t want to run but someone our country needs. None of the candidates from the 2008 GOP roster stood for anything (maybe if you could have picked bits from each one and made a whole new person).
But it all starts now. And then the 2010 elections.
At any rate, I’m recording his show tomorrow.
cibolo on November 20, 2009 at 7:26 PM
Big announcement: He is supporting Ron Paul in 2012! Along with Rand Paul (even though I dislike some of his positions compared with his father).
The Dean on November 20, 2009 at 7:26 PM
No more crying?
D2Boston on November 20, 2009 at 7:26 PM
It’d put a smile on Barack Obama’s face. It means four more years for him.
amerpundit on November 20, 2009 at 7:27 PM
What exactly is destructive about Beck? Who in the Republican/Conservative media is dedicating entire shows to some of America’s most unrepresented voices (moms, black conservatives, etc.)? Nobody is, except Beck. He seems to be the only person to actually get under the skin of this arrogant president we have. (notice Obama’s “joke” yesterday). He’s controlling the conservation (Anita, Van Jones, ACORN…) Speaking of ACORN, would that story have gone as far as it did (still going) without Beck there to give Breitbart and crew a platform? I doubt it. Beck is a mastermind and he’s having a very positive effect on conservatives.
Narutoboy on November 20, 2009 at 7:28 PM
What would the difference be? What votes would he give us that matter?
Healthcare? Michigan is a big union state, you’re telling me that this guy is willing to sell out the rest of the country for GM but not for the UAW? Why would I believe that?
Abortion is a non-issue federally anymore – if Roe v Wade ever gets overturned, it’ll be at the state level. (As it should be anyway) Guns are radioactive even to Democrats now. Entitlement reform? Again the UAW wants entitlements.
So what votes does he give us that matter?
apollyonbob on November 20, 2009 at 7:28 PM
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