Shock poll: Rubio within 10 points of Crist in Florida

posted at 5:32 pm on November 19, 2009 by Allahpundit

Yeah, it’s a dKos poll, but as I’ve told you before, their pollster’s okay. Kos himself thinks Crist is all but finished. For once, I’m inclined to agree with him.

These trendlines are bleak for Crist, and there’s little chance of him surviving. Remember, Rubio hasn’t spent a dime on media yet. This is all grassroots driven, and the teabaggers are engaged, angry, and looking for the next Scozzafava. Crist is in their crosshairs, and the governor has been flopping all over the place hoping to stem this growing tide against him, and failing. Note — 50 percent of Republicans still don’t know who Rubio is. The more he raises his name ID, the better he does…

If I’m Charlie Crist, I realize that I’m toast in the Republican primary. I note that a three-way race is a coin flip at best. But as a Democrat… switching parties and making an earnest transition on the issues would be the cleanest path to a Senate seat.

Not only hasn’t Rubio spent on media yet, but he can count on boatloads of earned media from the right. The question, then: Will Crist pull a Specter and switch? As in Pennsylvania, Florida’s primary is closed so the centrist can’t count on independents to bail him out. As a Democrat, Crist leads Rubio in a general election match-up 45/34 — but even there, 21 percent are undecided. If he doesn’t switch, the primary will likely decide who wins the Senate seat, as Crist leads big over likely Democratic nominee Kendrick Meek and Rubio trails narrowly despite most of the electorate being undecided. Of course, this all assumes that my nightmare scenario of a bloody primary suppressing Republican turnout in the general election won’t come to pass. Will it?

Sarahpalooza-flavored exit question: Palin is bound to endorse Rubio eventually, but will he have her come and campaign for him? Sarahcuda is useful primarily as a spur to turnout among the base, but Rubio is less in need of that than any other candidate running next year. He’s already the base’s darling; all she can do for him, potentially, is spur turnout among Palin-haters on the left (which is the not-too-secret reason Bob McDonnell politely declined her generous offer in Virginia).


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Purge the white males with too much UV exposure from the GOP!

WashJeff on November 19, 2009 at 5:34 PM

If Rubio asks her, she will. He may not need to.

John the Libertarian on November 19, 2009 at 5:35 PM

I would like Rubio to win the primary because I think that if he were to win the general, he would be a good senator.

I also want him to win the primary so that we may continue to look at pictures of him.

myrenovations on November 19, 2009 at 5:35 PM

I hope she campaigns for rubio, if only to see what McCain, who I think has endorsed Crist, then does.

Wethal on November 19, 2009 at 5:35 PM

Rubio doesn’t need to invite anyone at this point or in the near future. Obviously he’s doing just fine doing what he’s doing. Don’t change what’s working, don’t risk alienating people you’re regularly winning over.

amerpundit on November 19, 2009 at 5:35 PM

Anti-Crist.

Go Rubio!

Enoxo on November 19, 2009 at 5:35 PM

Is this shocking as Rand Paul taking the lead in Kentucky?

Spathi on November 19, 2009 at 5:37 PM

teabaggers?!!

oh how I wish they would grow up….

cmsinaz on November 19, 2009 at 5:37 PM

Sarah Palin = Katherine Harris in terms of the love/hate relationship.

But Palin isn’t from FL, so she won’t galvanize the democrat hate like Harris did in her senate run. Which, I still hate her for, by the way.

lorien1973 on November 19, 2009 at 5:38 PM

Is this shocking as Rand Paul taking the lead in Kentucky?

Spathi on November 19, 2009 at 5:37 PM

Well, RINO McCain won the Florida GOP presidential primary and the state itself went to Obama in the last election. One of its senators is a pretty liberal Democrat.

amerpundit on November 19, 2009 at 5:39 PM

Sarahcuda is useful primarily as a spur to turnout among the base 47% who have a favorable opinion of her

FIFY

Ronnie on November 19, 2009 at 5:41 PM

The biggest problem with Crist is he can’t make up his mind / shut up.

He said he was for the stimulus, supported it, took it, and hugged Obama for his help.

Then when he started running for Senator, he said he was against it. It was really really bad, and he didn’t want to take it but he had to.

And then he came out recently and said that he supported it, took it, and would have even voted for it if he was in the Senate at the time.

Crist’s problem is not Rubio. It’s Crist. And Rubio hasn’t had to do a single thing other than smile.

Enoxo on November 19, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Yeah, it’s a dKos poll, but as I’ve told you before, their pollster’s okay. Kos himself thinks Crist is all but finished. For once, I’m inclined to agree with him.

Ever the optimist. ;-)

UltimateBob on November 19, 2009 at 5:44 PM

Jetboy, its been a bad week buddy.

portlandon on November 19, 2009 at 5:46 PM

all she can do for him, potentially, is spur turnout among Palin-haters on the left (which is the not-too-secret reason Bob McDonnell politely declined her generous offer in Virginia)

So let’s bring in Mitt and TPaw instead. That’ll gin things up. Palin will endorse him and if it’s close, she will come. Rubio does not strike me as the type to diss her like Christie and McDonnell.

davek70 on November 19, 2009 at 5:47 PM

Crist’s problem is not Rubio. It’s Crist. And Rubio hasn’t had to do a single thing other than smile.

Enoxo on November 19, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Well, other than play the video showing Crist as a liar.

a capella on November 19, 2009 at 5:49 PM

The Democrats will look to destroy Rubio, because if Rubio wins he is a potential VP candidate in 2012. A Palin/Rubio ticket would be a Democrat’s worst nightmare.

milemarker2020 on November 19, 2009 at 5:52 PM

I have yet to see one Floridian on a conservative board speak kindly of Crist.

People from other states have (in the past), but not those living in Florida.

INC on November 19, 2009 at 5:53 PM

Alleged Florida Ponzi Scheme Could Top $1 Billion

Federal agents investigating a prominent Florida lawyer suspected of running an elaborate Ponzi scheme said on Thursday the amount involved could exceed $1 billion, and they asked bilked investors to come forward.

At a news conference, investigators from the FBI and the U.S. Internal Revenue Service (IRS) made a public appeal for information from individuals who had invested in a so-called Structured Settlement Investment scheme offered by 47-year-old Fort Lauderdale attorney Scott Rothstein.

Criminal charges have not yet been filed against Rothstein, who lived a luxury lifestyle and helped bankroll local politicians, campaign records show.

But a court document filed this week carried allegations that Rothstein masterminded a scheme in which he sold bogus or nonexistent legal settlements to unsuspecting investors since at least 2005. It said new investor money was used to pay previous investors in the classic Ponzi scheme model.

Crist also denied knowing Florida Ponzi schemer Scott Rothstein, until someone unearthed a picture of Rothstein helping Crist blow out the candles on Crist’s birthday cake.

Crist was selling “candles” on the cake to contributors. Rothstein bought so many he got to help blow them out.

Wethal on November 19, 2009 at 5:54 PM

oh how I wish they would grow up….

cmsinaz on November 19, 2009 at 5:37 PM

When… If they grow up, they won’t be them anymore, they’ll be us.

If you ever want to turn a fence-sitting senior away from the dark side in a hurry, ask them “Do you know why they smile when they call us ‘teabaggers’, you know, like Obama and Olberman and the others do all the time?” Then when they ask why, you explain to them what the term means.

It is at that point that any mature adult will realize that the democrats aren’t just wearing out a weak joke, they’re smirking about a filthy sexual insinuation because they are getting away with it in front of the adults.

Immolate on November 19, 2009 at 5:55 PM

I just hope that Rubio is as Conservative as he’s claiming to be.

Mel Martinez fooled me when I voted for him, and I’ve been annoyed ever since.

Enoxo on November 19, 2009 at 5:55 PM

OT: Guiliani likely to run for senate from New York.

Wethal on November 19, 2009 at 5:56 PM

If palin endorse rubio crist is done.

that my friends is called power. the GOp is trying to harness her power. To use her like a cheap hooker and not give her the seat at the table. TheGOP is wrong and will get destroyed if they do not embrace her.

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Jetboy, its been a bad week buddy.

portlandon on November 19, 2009 at 5:46 PM

:/

Don’t know what y’all are getting so excited about…Rubio is still 10 points behind Crist.

I mean, look…Crist isn’t perfect, but Marco Rubio in the US Senate? There’s just something about him I don’t trust.

JetBoy on November 19, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Why would Crist have any credibility as a Dem? yeah, RINO this RINO that, but he would have to shift pretty far to the left to align with the uber-lefty national Dem party.

fiatboomer on November 19, 2009 at 5:56 PM

OT: Guiliani likely to run for senate from New York.

Wethal on November 19, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Good.

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 5:56 PM

OT: Guiliani likely to run for senate from New York.

Wethal on November 19, 2009 at 5:56 PM

linky?

fiatboomer on November 19, 2009 at 5:57 PM

One of Crist’s many problems is that he’s orange. Does that make me a racist?

He’s a Lindsey Graham RINO in orange face, if you know what I mean……

Cody1991 on November 19, 2009 at 5:57 PM

INC on November 19, 2009 at 5:53 PM

There’s good reason.

Crist campaigned, even hugged Obama, for the passage of porkulus. Now he’s claiming he never even endorsed it.

Crist is also a follower of the church of global warming, even supporting cap-and-trade.

He appointed George Lemieux to replace Mel Martinez, who resigned from the Senate earlier this year. Lemieux is a Crist crony and former employee who got Crist elected. What did George do when he came to the Senate? Called for Joe Wilson to be censured.

amerpundit on November 19, 2009 at 5:58 PM

If palin endorse rubio crist is done.

that my friends is called power. the GOp is trying to harness her power. To use her like a cheap hooker and not give her the seat at the table. TheGOP is wrong and will get destroyed if they do not embrace her.

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Oh, great…Palin went from “saint” to “superhero” now. lol

JetBoy on November 19, 2009 at 5:58 PM

Check out those Indie numbers, though. If Crist decides to go third party there could be a tremendous clusterfrak in Florida, like NY-23 times ten, but with more time for both Republicans and Democrats to get their fundraising going.

Siobhan on November 19, 2009 at 5:58 PM

So let’s bring in Mitt and TPaw instead. That’ll gin things up. Palin will endorse him and if it’s close, she will come. Rubio does not strike me as the type to diss her like Christie and McDonnell.

davek70 on November 19, 2009 at 5:47 PM

He has already ask for her endorsement

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 5:59 PM

Uh, we’ll be knocking on tens of thousands of doors and emailing nonstop. Rubio’s chances get better as the “stimulus” looks more and more like the wasteful, vote-buying taxpayer boondoggle that it is.

marklmail on November 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Crist’s biggest problems are his support for the stimulus and FL’s unemployment–the first was supposed to help the 2nd. Also, FL is headed for round 2 in home foreclosures. Things are bleak here in the Sunshine State and since Crist is the Guv he will get the blame. Believe it or not, Rubio is still unknown to alot of Floridians. If Palin can help make him a household name then I think she definately will become an asset for him–assuming she gets involved in the race at all.

Redneck Woman on November 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Rubio should just show up at Palin’s book signing and have his copy signed.

canditaylor68 on November 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM

:/

Don’t know what y’all are getting so excited about…Rubio is still 10 points behind Crist.

Which is significantly better than how Rubio was performing just a few weeks and months ago. It’s not good when someone with the name recognition of Crist is just 10 points ahead of a virtual unknown like Rubio…before the campaign has even started and Rubio has even begun spending money.

I mean, look…Crist isn’t perfect, but Marco Rubio in the US Senate? There’s just something about him I don’t trust.

JetBoy on November 19, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Yeah, the fact his name isn’t Charlie Crist. Didn’t you want Ol’ Charlie, supporter of cap-and-trade and advocate of porkulus, for vice president?

amerpundit on November 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Oh, great…Palin went from “saint” to “superhero” now. lol

JetBoy on November 19, 2009 at 5:58 PM

Wait until she takes the title of Princeps!

fiatboomer on November 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM

JetBoy on November 19, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Wow, you’ve really fallen off the Crist pedestal haven’t you?

lorien1973 on November 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Rubio should just show up at Palin’s book tour stop and have his copy signed.

canditaylor68 on November 19, 2009 at 6:01 PM

Oh, great…Palin went from “saint” to “superhero” now. lol

JetBoy on November 19, 2009 at 5:58 PM

You see thpose thousands sleep in below freezing temps to get her to sign her book? that is called power. You can mock it if you want but those people not only slept on the ground in MI they had to PAY for it by buying her book. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Palin is not a saint or a superhero. Her entire political power comes form the fact she is average. She is not our messiah. She is us.

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 6:02 PM

Guiliani likely to run for Senate in 2010 (but unfortunately may then try for White House in 2012)

Wethal on November 19, 2009 at 6:01 PM

IDK sounds more like setting up for a 2016 run to me

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 6:02 PM

Uh, we’ll be knocking on tens of thousands of doors and emailing nonstop. Rubio’s chances get better as the “stimulus” looks more and more like the wasteful, vote-buying taxpayer boondoggle that it is.

marklmail on November 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Just think what happens to crist the establishment candidate if Obamacare passes. He losses 15pts overnight

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 6:04 PM

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 6:02 PM

Yeah, let’s not get too excited just yet about that. Ron Paul could get a similar thing going. Let’s remember he even held the record for most money raised in one day.

Not saying they’re exactly the same, but there are perhaps better examples of power than getting a few thousand devotees to be made uncomfortable.

amerpundit on November 19, 2009 at 6:05 PM

The Democrats will look to destroy Rubio, because if Rubio wins he is a potential VP candidate in 2012. A Palin/Rubio ticket would be a Democrat’s worst nightmare.
milemarker2020 on November 19, 2009 at 5:52 PM

White House Press Secretary Beck?

canditaylor68 on November 19, 2009 at 6:05 PM

As KOS requests, Crist will switch to the Democrat party faster than Dede Scozzafava downing a ham sandwich. I thought this weeks ago.

Marcus on November 19, 2009 at 6:05 PM

I mean, look…Crist isn’t perfect, but Marco Rubio in the US Senate? There’s just something about him I don’t trust.

JetBoy on November 19, 2009 at 5:56 PM

let me channel a dem here….racist!

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 6:06 PM

Er,

better examples of her power.

amerpundit on November 19, 2009 at 6:06 PM

The Democrats will look to destroy Rubio, because if Rubio wins he is a potential VP candidate in 2012. A Palin/Rubio ticket would be a Democrat’s worst nightmare.
milemarker2020 on November 19, 2009 at 5:52 PM
White House Press Secretary Beck?

canditaylor68 on November 19, 2009 at 6:05 PM

IDK I think Palin would pick a more experience candidate that is outside of DC. Maybe a Peterus or Bolton

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 6:07 PM

BTW, if Crist does switch to the Democrat party, the “Mrs.” better tighten up that pre-nuptual.

Marcus on November 19, 2009 at 6:07 PM

The best part of living in a conservative enclave down here in the Sunshine State…
Listening to Charlie on the radio, (ads), with a sea of Rubio window stickers…gotta love it!!

jerrytbg on November 19, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Yeah, let’s not get too excited just yet about that. Ron Paul could get a similar thing going. Let’s remember he even held the record for most money raised in one day.

Not saying they’re exactly the same, but there are perhaps better examples of power than getting a few thousand devotees to be made uncomfortable.

amerpundit on November 19, 2009 at 6:05 PM

did Ron Paul raise 7 million in one day? Like the GOP did the day of Palin’s announcement as VP? I don’t remember hearing that he did.

did he sell 300,000 books in a day?

Yes he had a loyal following but you know what makes me think Palin’s following is different? You never had stories in the MSM asking if the GOP hopefuls should embrace Ron Paul.

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 6:10 PM

Crist will quit the senate race and run for Governor again.
He is losing support from all sides and that is his only choice to maintain any power.

Conservatives can’t stand him.

The head of the state GOP is also under fire for following Crist around like a puppy.

With 9 months to go before the primary, Crist has no choice even if he does have over 6 million bucks in campaign funds.

Nelsa on November 19, 2009 at 6:12 PM

Palin is not a saint or a superhero. Her entire political power comes form the fact she is average. She is not our messiah. She is us.

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 6:02 PM

You have a Palin shrine in your home, don’t you…

Wait until she takes the title of Princeps!

fiatboomer on November 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM

I lol’ed!

Wow, you’ve really fallen off the Crist pedestal haven’t you?

lorien1973 on November 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM

No…I never said he was perfect, but come on, put Crist and Rubio side by side and look at experience vs. image…the choice should be clear.

Yeah, the fact his name isn’t Charlie Crist. Didn’t you want Ol’ Charlie, supporter of cap-and-trade and advocate of porkulus, for vice president?

amerpundit on November 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM

I honestly thought he would be the veep choice. McCain went all mavericky and chose Palin instead. Yes…cap & trade is horrible. Again, Crist ain’t perfect. But he’s the better choice for Senate right now.

JetBoy on November 19, 2009 at 6:13 PM

BTW, if Crist does switch to the Democrat party, the “Mrs.” better tighten up that pre-nuptual.

Marcus on November 19, 2009 at 6:07 PM

that’s funny right there. I’m not sure if crist is a homosexual or not. but if he is it would say alot about his character that he has invited an entire fake personility in order to get votes. I could care less one way or the other except for the clues it gives on his honesty

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 6:13 PM

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 6:10 PM

No. Ron Paul, as a Republican candidate during the primary and not VP candidate after a convention, raised $6 million in one day.

I don’t know if we ever got solid numbers on his book sales. We don’t even have solid numbers on Palin’s, just sources for a blog site. I know his book topped Amazon and the New York Times Bestseller List.

amerpundit on November 19, 2009 at 6:15 PM

Again, Crist ain’t perfect. But he’s the better choice for Senate right now.

JetBoy on November 19, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Yeah, the guy who supports horrible, economy-killing legislation and campaigned for massive liberal spending projects is better than a guy who opposes horrible, economy-killing legislation and opposed massive liberal spending projects.

I’m sure that makes sense in some universe.

amerpundit on November 19, 2009 at 6:16 PM

You have a Palin shrine in your home, don’t you…
JetBoy on November 19, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Not at all. For the first time since Reagan i have someone and someone’s policies that I want to vote FOR. that in and of itself makes my day.

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 6:17 PM

Oh, great…Palin went from “saint” to “superhero” now. lol

JetBoy on November 19, 2009 at 5:58 PM

She CAN be both Jet.

Saint Superhero it is.

Crist has had a bad week, flip floppin’ on the Stimulus/tarp support. He might be a nice guy, but his numbers have been sliding. It will be an interesting race.

portlandon on November 19, 2009 at 6:17 PM

It ain’t that shocking. There are still some of us conservatives left in the Sunshine State.

bigbeas on November 19, 2009 at 6:18 PM

Isn’t Sarah scheduled for a book signing at The Villages? I wonder who might be there to greet her.

huckleberryfriend on November 19, 2009 at 6:19 PM

I like Sarah, but she needs to stay out of this race until she can repair her image with independents. The fact of the matter is that even with strong turnout from the base, which is not even a question now, Rubio would need to appeal to independents to win, just like McDonnell did.

ncconservative on November 19, 2009 at 6:20 PM

For argument sake…if the 17th amendment wasn’t there…
Rubio would be the choice, hands down.

jerrytbg on November 19, 2009 at 6:20 PM

Redneck Woman on November 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Rubio actually proposed to do away with property taxes, in favor of an increased sales tax. Crist got the Senate to block the move. A- I wonder how many people this would’ve helped keep in FL (they’re moving out in droves, mostly) B- How many people would have been able to avoid foreclosure had Rubio’s proposal passed? This will ultimately be the club with which Rubio clubs Crist into Bolivion (apologies to Mike Tyson). If Charlie pulls a Specter and switches, he’ll get killed on the left (exhibit A, Congressman Alan Grayson). It is all ovahhhh!

Jorge Bonilla on November 19, 2009 at 6:21 PM

amerpundit on November 19, 2009 at 6:15 PM

honestly i was not a big Paul supporter during the campaign so i didn’t follow him much. I know he got about 10% of the vote. his forgein policy to me was a turn off. And his idea about going back to the gold standard with $10trillion of debt on the books seemed a recipe for disaster. Yet I think his greates strength was his wanting to go back to the consitution. Like any candidate he was a sum of his parts. Some of his ideas I liked some i didn’t. To me his bad outweighted his good. But I could see the attraction. and Palin sees it too. she is the only GOP besides Paul to talk about the evils of the fed. She is going after his voters to some degree IMO.

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 6:25 PM

I like Sarah, but she needs to stay out of this race until she can repair her image with independents. The fact of the matter is that even with strong turnout from the base, which is not even a question now, Rubio would need to appeal to independents to win, just like McDonnell did.

ncconservative on November 19, 2009 at 6:20 PM

LOL have you seen the new polls. the independents don’t like her meme is so yesterday…

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 6:27 PM

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 6:25 PM

She’s not going to win over his supporters. They tend to be isolationist and social liberals, even though Paul himself is pro-life.

amerpundit on November 19, 2009 at 6:29 PM

Rubio is hot, and the tan is authentic– he’ll win.

leftnomore on November 19, 2009 at 6:30 PM

Rubio all the way. Crist is useless and would be “present” voter.

tim c on November 19, 2009 at 6:32 PM

If I were him, I’d have her fundraise for him. Then, he takes over.

The issue isn’t Palin-haters turning out, in my opinion. The issue is that she would overshadow him entirely.

AnninCA on November 19, 2009 at 6:33 PM

ncconservative on November 19, 2009 at 6:20 PM

you might want to check this poll out:

Also among all voters — not just Republicans — Sarah Palin is viewed more favorably than her most likely potential rivals for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination:

Palin has been mentioned as a possible presidential candidate in 2012, along with a host of other Republicans. Among self-identified Republicans in the survey, Palin gets the highest favorable ratings (70 percent) amid a group of other possible contenders for the GOP nomination, including Mike Huckabee (63 percent), Mitt Romney (60 percent) and Newt Gingrich (58 percent).
Former Governor Palin’s gains have come mostly from independents. Last July, more members of this key demographic group saw her unfavorably than favorably, by a 51 percent to 38 percent margin. The Going Rogue author has turned those numbers around. Now 49 percent of independents see her in a favorable light, while her unfavorables have dropped to 38 percent.

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 6:33 PM

Serious hottie. Definately going to do well with the female vote. Hope he lives up to it.

di butler on November 19, 2009 at 6:34 PM

She’s not going to win over his supporters. They tend to be isolationist and social liberals, even though Paul himself is pro-life.

amerpundit on November 19, 2009 at 6:29 PM

It palin’s bet IMO that she can get a good chunk of them from being fiscal conservative. palin is the closest thing to a libertian that we are going to get on the national stage. i think alot of Paul’s supporters will hold their nose and vote for her if its a choice betweeen hard core spocialism of Obama and Palin. She has a big fan in ted nuggent. If she can win him over she can win Paul supporters over

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 6:37 PM

The issue isn’t Palin-haters turning out, in my opinion. The issue is that she would overshadow him entirely.

AnninCA on November 19, 2009 at 6:33 PM

Good pts. But i think that was were Houffman messed up. he did not have her onsite. If he would have embraced her endorsement in campgain her supporters would have done more. I gave to him on her endorsement. When i read his campaign manager say they would not want her to campaignor appear in TV spots I stopped giving. In a 3,000 vote race Houffman was stupid to not take full advantage of the gift.

Rubio does not seem stupid. He has asked for her endorsment and I am sure he will want her in state like Perry does.

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 6:40 PM

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 6:37 PM

Paul-type voters wouldn’t hold their nose and vote for Bush over Kerry in 2004, as evidence by the number of Reason editors who openly voted for the latter. They’ll most likely vote for the Libertarian Party candidate. Root is already talking about being the Ross Perot of 2012.

amerpundit on November 19, 2009 at 6:41 PM

Sarahcuda is useful primarily as a spur to turnout among the base 47% who have a favorable opinion of her

FIFYRonnie on November 19, 2009 at 5:41 PM

You just have to recall that when it comes to GOP politics Allahpundit is a trailing indicator…

alexwest on November 19, 2009 at 6:44 PM

Paul-type voters wouldn’t hold their nose and vote for Bush over Kerry in 2004, as evidence by the number of Reason editors who openly voted for the latter. They’ll most likely vote for the Libertarian Party candidate. Root is already talking about being the Ross Perot of 2012.

amerpundit on November 19, 2009 at 6:41 PM

Palin is not Bush

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 6:48 PM

It is priceless that Kos the fringe leftist is now looking at Republicans who can’t make muster with the conservatives, in the hope that they’ll switch parties to become Demorats. My, my…what a difference since all of this Hopenchange stuff started.

Wasn’t it just a couple weeks ago that the fringe lefties were getting prepped for their campaign to defeat all the moderate Dem/closet wingnuts in primaries? Now Kos is fishing for some Republicans to become…what?…fringe lefties?

Bwaaaaaa!

Crist would be wise to sit tight in the Governors seat, learn some new terms (“O’Bozo” and “socialist nitwit” come to mind), and run for something fun after this race, posturing as a conservative next time. Nobody is changing parties to become a Democrat right now. Nobody.

Jaibones on November 19, 2009 at 6:50 PM

I was at the Quaker Steak and Lube in Clearwater Fl last night for Bike Night. Rubio’s people were there signing up people and passing out bumper stickers.

meci on November 19, 2009 at 6:55 PM

Again, Crist ain’t perfect. But he’s the better choice for Senate right now.

JetBoy on November 19, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Dude, you’re losing it. Crist is an assclown, and your untethered opinion that he’s “the better choice” “right now” is just blather. Why? Because of his “experience”? Teddy Kennedy had more experience than the entire Florida GOP; were you a big fan of his?

Crist has zero support from Florida conservatives, a boatload of hilarious video of him jerking off O’Baaama and stumping for tax and spend liberal legislation and then lying about it, and a tan from a bottle that makes him look like a small, wrinkled Ken doll. You claim to be a Republican — act like it. Support someone who votes against bad liberal legislation.

Jaibones on November 19, 2009 at 6:57 PM

Didn’t the RNC already endorse Crist? Now AllahP thinks he could flip to Dem. That should about do it for Steele after the Scozzoo up the wazoo fun.

GnuBreed on November 19, 2009 at 7:02 PM

The biggest problem with Crist is he can’t make up his mind / shut up. he’s an idiot.

beachgirlusa on November 19, 2009 at 7:12 PM

For the first time since Reagan i have someone and someone’s policies that I want to vote FOR. that in and of itself makes my day.

unseen

:)

beachgirlusa on November 19, 2009 at 7:14 PM

Rubio is the right man for the job,I hope he wins!!

canopfor on November 19, 2009 at 7:17 PM

The anti-Crist has arrisen.

Buen provecho mi amigo.

Mojave Mark on November 19, 2009 at 7:24 PM

What exactly are the FL state rules regarding flips? I could have sworn it was similar to PA in that if he loses he can’t run in the general. Is he able to switch parties now that he already is registered as a candidate for the republican ticket? When is the cutoff to register(I know FL’s primary is really late)?

clement on November 19, 2009 at 7:25 PM

beachgirlusa on November 19, 2009 at 7:12 PM

Do want to see and hear what an idiot RINO sounds like?

He may not be an idiot but he IS a RINO and we don’t need another RINO in DC.

Nelsa on November 19, 2009 at 7:26 PM

I’ve seen Marco Rubio and I am 100% behind him. Having said that, I was behind Mark Sanford, as well. I’m going to stay with Rubio – he’s the real deal for me. I got the chance to look in his eyes. That makes a difference. (Obviously, I didn’t get a chance to look in the eyes of Sanford) :)

zeebeach on November 19, 2009 at 7:29 PM

Enoxo on November 19, 2009 at 5:42 PM

I had not read your post earlier so in case you would like video proof of what you said about Crist, here it is.

This was just released yesterday including the audio of Crist saying he was unaware that Obama was in Jacksonville Florida.

Nelsa on November 19, 2009 at 7:38 PM

Obama’s coat tails have turned to stone. See what happens, RINOs, when you try to be nice to democrats?

SouthernGent on November 19, 2009 at 7:39 PM

I got the chance to look in his eyes.

I am sure alot of people said the same thing looking into the untested, sweet-talking Obama too.

I think Crist is done for too. I am getting my clothespin out to vote for Rubio in the general.

Squid Shark on November 19, 2009 at 7:54 PM

Crist is full of it. Feel free to use the RINO label on that guy.

Go Rubio.

therightwinger on November 19, 2009 at 7:55 PM

For the first time since Reagan i have someone and someone’s policies that I want to vote FOR. that in and of itself makes my day.

unseen

Good thing you arent looking to close at his record then. Turn off your brain and let his sweet, sweet words wash over you.

Squid Shark on November 19, 2009 at 7:57 PM

Squid Shark on November 19, 2009 at 7:54 PM

Squiddly! I was wondering when you would show up. I see you are finally convinced that Rubio is the better candidate. I know with all the research that you have done on both candidates records that you have made the RIGHT decision.

I have enjoyed your “devils advocate” perspective.

BTW-Do they still make clothes pins?

Nelsa on November 19, 2009 at 7:59 PM

I see you are finally convinced that Rubio is the better candidate. I know with all the research that you have done on both candidates records that you have made the RIGHT decision.

I have enjoyed your “devils advocate” perspective.

BTW-Do they still make clothes pins?

Nelsa on November 19, 2009 at 7:59 PM

You know I have not decided that he is the best candidate, I am still voting for Crist in the primary, but I am steeling myself for the next round. Gritting my teeth and defending him against Meeks.

Squid Shark on November 19, 2009 at 8:03 PM

Squid Shark on November 19, 2009 at 7:54 PM
I think Crist is done for too. I am getting my clothespin out to vote for Rubio in the general.

You know I have not decided that he is the best candidate, I am still voting for Crist in the primary, but I am steeling myself for the next round. Gritting my teeth and defending him against Meeks.
Squid Shark on November 19, 2009 at 8:03 PM

DUDE! Make up your mind or lose any credibility you may have left. You changed your position in less than ten minutes. You sound like the perfect “moderate” candidate in any election. You have a lot in common with Crist.

Nelsa on November 19, 2009 at 8:22 PM

Nelsa on November 19, 2009 at 8:22 PM

Please explain how I changed my position. He still does not have my vote. But as a pragmatist, I see Crist shooting himself in the foot, I knew Rubio had a good shot at winning back when no one else took him seriously. Now I think he will probably pull it out, so I am preparing myself mentally for having to go from fighting him to defending him, it will be a hard transition because I really dont like the guy. I never have but since he started putting on his “look how conservative I am” schtick, I like him less.

Squid Shark on November 19, 2009 at 8:30 PM

So let me get this correct. You would vote for Crist in the Primary and for Rubio in the General election? But you think

Crist is done for too. I am getting my clothespin out to vote for Rubio in the general.

Why don’t you just say that you will vote for the Republican who wins the primary and quit trying to defend or support either of the two candidates? You are obviously “conflicted”.

Trust me. Rubio will win the primary so don’t waste your vote on Crist. Anyway, he will not be around for the primary because he will decide to run for Gov again.

Nelsa on November 19, 2009 at 8:43 PM

Nelsa on November 19, 2009 at 8:43 PM

I will vote for whomever I damn well please. Rubio will not get my vote until he is the “lesser of two evils”, he is not yet.

Squid Shark on November 19, 2009 at 8:47 PM

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