Russo-US relations not “reset” at all

posted at 3:35 pm on November 19, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The National Journal takes a look at Barack Obama’s claim to have successfully “reset” relations between Russia and the United States, and comes away less than impressed.  In fact, relations between the two nations haven’t changed much at all, on either side.  David Gauvey Herbert and Artemy Kalinovsky point out that the US has not really changed its position on missile defense in Poland and Russia has not changed its position on Iran, nor are either side likely to do so.  And one reason why the Russians remain unimpressed with Obama’s efforts is Obama’s running mate, VP Joe Biden:

As Iran draws closer to nuclear power and Afghanistan teeters on the brink of collapse, the U.S. needs Russian cooperation more than ever. But a year after President Obama’s election and nine months after Hillary Rodham Clinton’s partially fumbled attempt to “reset” relations with Moscow, Russian officials still aren’t sure what to make of the new administration.

At this September’s Valdai conference, an annual meeting of the minds for Russian policy wonks, President Dmitry Medvedev and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin complained that despite White House talk of a reset, there has been no tangible progress, according to attendee Oksana Antonenko, program director for Russia and Eurasia at the International Institute for Strategic Studies.

“There’s still a great deal of skepticism within the Russian political elites and government about what our motives and long-term plans are,” said Thomas Graham, who served as senior director at the National Security Council for Russia from 2004 to 2007.

Hope and Change hasn’t convinced the Kremlin that the new administration is anything other than “old wine in new bottles,” as the authors of the article explain. And Biden hasn’t helped:

Part of the problem may be the administration’s inconsistent messaging. At the center is Vice President Joe Biden, who has made three trips to Central and Eastern Europe this year, reassuring allies that warmer relations with Russia won’t leave them in the cold. In the process, he’s taken a few potshots at Moscow, saying the Russian economy was “withering” and arguing that their empire was in decline.

The vice president won himself goodwill in Central and Eastern Europe during his three-plus decades on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee by supporting the expansion of NATO and encouraging American intervention during the wars in the former Yugoslavia. The position he’s staked out now, Simes argued, is to improve relations with Moscow without budging on any issues important to America’s partners in the region.

Tony Blinken, Biden’s national security adviser, said as much in a conference call before the October trip to Poland and the Czech Republic, telling reporters, “We’ve been very clear from day one that we are seeking to improve relations with Russia, but not at the expense of any of our partners — our partnerships.”

Russian policymakers — already disinclined to trust Obama’s motives — have latched onto these statements as proof of the White House’s disingenuousness.

The Russians don’t know Biden as well as Americans do. He’s a buffoon, a self-important loose cannon apt to say the wrong thing at the perfectly wrong time. Ironically, Obama chose Biden to shore up what was seen as a weakness during the campaign on foreign policy and military affairs. Now Obama’s stuck with Biden as he shoots off his mouth and undermines Obama’s efforts with Moscow.

But this does point out the lack of substance in Obama’s foreign policy. National Journal notes that the Russians are unimpressed because Obama has offered them nothing new except a nicer “tone,” which Biden has busily undermined anyway. Obama seems convinced that all he has to do is travel the world and say nice things to “restore our standing in the world,” but other nations want their national interests addressed, not a tongue bath.

Until Obama provides a significant reason to cooperate on Iran, Russia won’t abandon its trade with Tehran, which amounted to over $3 billion.  They want the US to retreat from eastern Europe, acknowledge their hegemony in western Asia, and help them reduce the costs of maintaining a nuclear arsenal without compromising their position as a global military power.  Hillary Clinton can send all of the mistranslated “reset” buttons she wants and Obama can smile for the cameras on the global stage, but the Russians are not going to budge from their own interests unless Obama offers them some worthwhile trades.

And when Obama finds that he cannot make those trades — because they threaten our national interests — perhaps he will learn that the previous administration understood the Russians better than he does, and that we didn’t need a reset button in the first place.

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Don’t mess with Joe. His motorcade is a deadly force!

upinak on November 19, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Occassionally useful idito=Joe Biden

JoeinTX on November 19, 2009 at 3:39 PM

*idiot…….possibly idito

JoeinTX on November 19, 2009 at 3:40 PM

The Russians don’t know Biden as well as Americans do. He’s a buffoon

The Russians know that full well. They also remember Boris Yeltsin far better than we do. Even buffoons can be dangerous, too close to the center of power.

notropis on November 19, 2009 at 3:40 PM

That’s cuz Biden reminds most people of a naughty uncle who farts at the Thanksgiving dinner table than someone who should be taken seriously.

gsherin on November 19, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Yup! The wise people elected an inept, naive, immature, self centered idiot, and we got Biden as a super sized bonus.

capejasmine on November 19, 2009 at 3:42 PM

usefull useless idiot

PatriotRider on November 19, 2009 at 3:42 PM

OT: Rudy running for the senate!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/11/19/2009-11-19_former_mayor_rudy_giuliani_to_announce_plan_to_run_for_us_senate.html

About time he made his decision.

BJ on November 19, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Russian policymakers — already disinclined to trust Obama’s motives — have latched onto these statements as proof of the White House’s disingenuousness.

The Russians don’t know Biden as well as Americans do. He’s a buffoon, a self-important loose cannon apt to say the wrong thing at the perfectly wrong time.

I dunno, Ed, it sounds like half of our voters could learn a thing or two from the Ruskies.

Tony737 on November 19, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Vladimir Putin’s p.o.’d bacause America looks more like the old Russia, under Obama, than Russia looks like today; And this is after we talked Russia into divesting itself of communism. Heh.

Cybergeezer on November 19, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Wonder how many in the Obama administration will be retiring or resigning after the 2010 elections?

albill on November 19, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Other nations want their national interests addressed, not a tongue bath.

Until Obama understands this, his entire foreign “policy” isn’t worth a pitcher of warm spit, to paraphrase FDR’s first VP. And I put Obama’s “policy” in quotes because, to date, he really doesn’t have one — other than the tongue bath which Ed mercilessly skewers.

jwolf on November 19, 2009 at 3:48 PM

So, do they refer to ol Joe as a “buffoonski” over there?!

atlgal on November 19, 2009 at 3:49 PM

Keep f**kin’ that reset button, Hillary.

lorien1973 on November 19, 2009 at 3:50 PM

Messin’ with Joe.

LOL!

Rae on November 19, 2009 at 3:52 PM

It’s like a trainwreck you can’t stop watching.

txag92 on November 19, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Overcharge!

Enoxo on November 19, 2009 at 3:55 PM

“Joe Biden” + “tongue bath” = international relations catastrophe

marc@hubsandspokes on November 19, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Can you believe that Biden has an IQ of 146? Wow…
Just goes to show that IQ is the size of the glass, not the measure of the contents thereof.
A trainwreck indeed…a slow motion one that we must simply watch.

Army Brat on November 19, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Wonder how many in the Obama administration will be retiring or resigning after the 2010 elections?

albill on November 19, 2009 at 3:45 PM

You bring up a good point. There are several positions Obama has yet to fill within his administration. For months I think we chalked it up to ineptitude, or plain laziness on Obama’s part. Now I have to wonder. When a position is offere, how many respectfully decline, knowing the trains will eventually collide on this debacle that is Obama?

capejasmine on November 19, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Going up North for Thanksgiving haven’t seen my sisters since 2000 – lots have happened, and we will- but won’t talk politics .. Kinda Sorta if you know what I mean.

wheels on November 19, 2009 at 4:00 PM

This is a lead up to Joe’s departure. One major news source (can’t remember which one) referred to him recently as Former Vice President Joseph Biden.

Key West Reader on November 19, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Now Obama’s stuck with Biden as he shoots off his mouth and undermines Obama’s efforts with Moscow.

Sorry, but that presumes that we know what Obama intends. Especially when the very next sentence is :

But this does point out the lack of substance in Obama’s foreign policy

It would seem to suggest that Obama doesn’t have a foreign policy because Obama doesn’t understand or care about what is in the best interest of the United States. His obsession is ‘remaking’ the US economy, rewarding his loyal supporters with largess from the US Treasury, and (one presumes) acquiring wealth and power for himself. Foreign power doesn’t enter into that point of view.

This point of view would also explain Obama’s do nothing Afghanistan ‘policy’.

Skandia Recluse on November 19, 2009 at 4:01 PM

On the contrary… it is being reset to the 60′s…. When we stood and stared at each other. If our fearless leader continues, we will end up staring and they’ll do what they want.

PaCadle on November 19, 2009 at 4:02 PM

Don’t mess with Joe. His motorcade is a deadly force!

upinak on November 19, 2009 at 3:37 PM

LOL. More people have been killed or hurt from Joe Biden’s motorcade than from Dick Cheney’s Hunting trips.

portlandon on November 19, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Обама – дурак.

Realist on November 19, 2009 at 4:04 PM

Don’t mess with Joe. His motorcade is a deadly force!

upinak on November 19, 2009 at 3:37 PM

LOL. More people have been killed or hurt from Joe Biden’s motorcade than from Dick Cheney’s Hunting trips.

portlandon on November 19, 2009 at 4:03 PM

And they claimed Cheney had a secret death squad.

the_nile on November 19, 2009 at 4:07 PM

Whoever said that “reset” requires a change a process was mistaken. I frequently reset my timer without changing what’s cooking, but simply to extend the duration of the heating process.

maverick muse on November 19, 2009 at 4:09 PM

Ready from day one… or so we were told.

Most of us here at Hot Air knew better. If only more of the nation were so informed.

Yakko77 on November 19, 2009 at 4:09 PM

Seriously, though. Is that Obama’s REAL plan? Deploy his implacable blabbing and hold enough photo ops??

Come on. There has to be something else going on here. Something concrete.

Black Yoshi on November 19, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Biden should be wearing a helmet.

search4truth on November 19, 2009 at 4:11 PM

D’ohbama’s foreign policy is whatever pops up on the tele-prompter at any given moment. The substance is just as tangible as D’ohbama’s promises for everything else.

Cybergeezer on November 19, 2009 at 4:12 PM

More people have been killed or hurt from Joe Biden’s motorcade than from Dick Cheney’s Hunting trips.

portlandon on November 19, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Cheney’s hunting companion was armed. Joe Biden’s motorcade ran over and killed an unarmed pedestrian who had no connection with Biden whatsoever, but was in the way of speeding limo & SUV motorcade (neither fuel efficient) rushing, without any reason, carelessly for a parking place.

So as with terrorists who can target unarmed civilians to avoid a military tribunal, Biden’s drivers further extend the Obama Doctrine to kill innocent bystanders without being charged for manslaughter.

maverick muse on November 19, 2009 at 4:15 PM

Can you believe that Biden has an IQ of 146? Wow…

Army Brat on November 19, 2009 at 3:59 PM

I can, if you understand that in Slow Joe’s case “IQ” stands for “Idiot Quotient”….. :)

AW1 Tim on November 19, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Wasn’t there some music made for “Killer Joe” many years ago?

Cybergeezer on November 19, 2009 at 4:20 PM

It will take a big mop to clean up this worldly mess Obama & Biden are making. Paging Liz Cheney/Condi Rice!!

TN Mom on November 19, 2009 at 4:23 PM

Obama has offered them nothing new except a nicer “tone,”

B..b…but that’s all that is needed to get along with everyone. That, and singing Kum-bay-Yah.

Kafir on November 19, 2009 at 4:24 PM

Obama, Biden, Clinton, Susan Rice, and Samantha Power put together do not know as much about Russia as Condoleezza Rice.

rockmom on November 19, 2009 at 4:24 PM

Messin’ with Joe.

New Beef jerky commercials..on their way.

Caper29 on November 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM

Until Obama provides a significant reason to cooperate on Iran, Russia won’t abandon its trade with Tehran, which amounted to over $3 billion

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PFFT..3 billion??? Heck we piss that away on hopey and changey signs for highway projects! Let’s just buy the ruskies off.

Wine_N_Dine on November 19, 2009 at 4:50 PM

How could the Russians know what the Obama administration is doing when the Obama Administration does not?

jukin on November 19, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Did Russia learn this from Iran or vice versa? It’s so hard to tell the actors apart in these operas…

karl9000 on November 19, 2009 at 4:54 PM

rockmom on November 19, 2009 at 4:24 PM

That’s a fact.

Someone said, about the “reset” fiasco, “Condi Rice wouldn’t have made that mistake!”

Well, no she wouldn’t, since she speaks fluent Russian.

notropis on November 19, 2009 at 5:02 PM

Hillary has articulated that our goal is to find mutual interests. Obama frequently seems to undermine a solid message, though. He seems to play the game as though he’s the “gift.”

He’s just very, very inexperienced.

AnninCA on November 19, 2009 at 5:28 PM

Don’t mess with Joe. His motorcade is a deadly force!
upinak on November 19, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Rumor has it that Lunchpail Joe’s motorcade is to be deployed to the AfPak theatre to kick some Taliban a$$

ya2daup on November 19, 2009 at 6:11 PM

Forget resetting… are Russo-American relations overcharged?

malclave on November 19, 2009 at 6:33 PM

Obama seems convinced that all he has to do is travel the world and say nice things to “restore our standing in the world,”

I can’t resist…any chance.
Biden knows how to restore our “standing”

right2bright on November 19, 2009 at 6:34 PM

… other nations want their national interests addressed, not a tongue bath.

OMG, what an image!
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Wouldn’t it be a complete surprise if Obama has done all can do, as of right now, and not another thing will come out of this administration? Wouldn’t it be such a letdown for all those elites in academia and Hollyweird if Obama was only able to “organize” folks far lower on the educational scale than himself?
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I’m still waiting for Obama’s line-by-line review of the Federal Budget, a campaign promise to cut waste and fraud in the Federal Government. He promised! That pork skin must be awfully slippery!

ExpressoBold on November 19, 2009 at 6:45 PM

Obama won’t make the trade because it hurts US interests? You have much greater faith in his sense and sensibilities than I do!

johnny alpha on November 19, 2009 at 8:36 PM

I wouldn’t put it past Barry to sell us out in order to ‘show progress’ with the Russians.

GarandFan on November 19, 2009 at 9:17 PM

OMG. Is the boy growing up? Any signs? I don’t see any.

antisocial on November 19, 2009 at 11:18 PM

Regarding US-Russion relations, we’ve throw Poland under the bus for missile defense, so we’ve got at least something to show for the reset relations.

olesparkie on November 20, 2009 at 10:43 AM