Comments on: Reid stripped Stupak language from Senate ObamaCare bill

By: Nelson Caves; Country Closer To Being Really Screwed - scipio62’s blog - RedState

Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:49:51 +0000

[...] the original Senate bill? No problem: Scroll down to Section 1303, which uses the same reliance on the “prohibited under HHS rules” dodge as the earlier Senate version, rather than using the language from the Stupak Amendment in the [...]

By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Breaking: Nelson will vote for cloture

Hot Air » Blog Archive » Breaking: Nelson will vote for cloture — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:48:00 +0000

[...] down to Section 1303, which uses the same reliance on the “prohibited under HHS rules” dodge as the earlier Senate version, rather than using the language from the Stupak Amendment in the [...]

By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Does Reid bill mandate abortion coverage in exchanges?

Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:45:36 +0000

[...] those restrictions are never explicitly spelled out in the text, unlike the Stupak amendment, as I wrote earlier this week. But CNS’ Terence Jeffrey looks more closely at 1303 and notices a mandate in the language [...]

By: Dingy Harry plans a Saturday night “under the radar” vote on Obamacare

Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:57:51 +0000

[...] you know, being re-elected. The key issues seem to be the familiar ones; the public option, public abortion funding and facilitation, and the substantial tax increases that are woven into the 2000+ page legislative [...]

By: Gears and Springs · Ссылки на память

Gears and Springs · Ссылки на память — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:58:55 +0000

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By: Blacksmith8

Blacksmith8 — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:46:04 +0000

The Ronin Edge on November 19, 2009 at 10:36 PM

If your rep votes badly, be sure and remind him that recalls don’t wait for 2010.

By: Blacksmith8

Blacksmith8 — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:32:59 +0000

Boy, the way Rush puts it, the abortion premium that everyone pays sounds like a Planned Parenthood slush fund.

ORconservative on November 19, 2009 at 1:39 PM

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner!

By: Blacksmith8

Blacksmith8 — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:30:42 +0000

I’m not mad at you, It’s been nothing but a month of bad news and it pisses me off that they can get away with $h!t like this and not care.

Brat4life on November 19, 2009 at 1:05 PM

Be sure you remember this fire when you’re looking at a new candidate, when you’re thinking about how you can help, when you stand alone in the voting booth. They do not care. Not about you, me, or this country. Remember, and hold their feet to the fire.

FREEDOM!

By: Blacksmith8

Blacksmith8 — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:24:00 +0000

single payer government run healthcare

truetexan on November 19, 2009 at 12:48 PM

All government run healthcare is and will be single payer. That is was and shall be their plan.

By: Blacksmith8

Blacksmith8 — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:21:35 +0000

hopefully some Democrats will not be fooled.

Steve Z on November 19, 2009 at 12:39 PM

Um Dude, you are aware that you are suggesting there is such a thing as a dhimmicrap who is not a fool aren’t you? I mean seriously, think about that for a minute:
dhimmicrap == fool
Always has, always will.

By: chemman

chemman — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:38:14 +0000

Said provisions do not stop the Health commissioner and his expert panel from requiring abortion to be cover under all approved plans.

By: Health Care Round Up | The Lonely Conservative

Health Care Round Up | The Lonely Conservative — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:42:35 +0000

[...] Senate’s version of ObamaCare strips the Stupak abortion language. The bill has a provision requiring a monthly abortion fee. It uses the word tax 183 times and the [...]

By: runawayyyy

runawayyyy — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:29:44 +0000

Hucklebuck on November 19, 2009 at 3:32 PM

Well said. This was a done deal the moment they got their 60th vote in the senate. There is not a single dem senator who doesn’t want to vote for this. Every last one of them has been itching for this chance, and they know it could be a long time before it comes around again (I’m not so sure about that, but they’re probably right to think so).

By: ncconservative

ncconservative — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:12:49 +0000

Blue Dogs will show that they are in fact Lap Dogs. They will subsequently be shown the door in 2010.

By: Hucklebuck

Hucklebuck — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:32:40 +0000

You’re kidding yourself if you believe that the final bill will have any restriction on abortion. After the Senate passes their version, the reconciliation process will strip that out. The final bill will then pass, as did the House bill, with “Blue Dog” conservative (that’s a laffer) Dem’s complaining that they did all they could. Make a note that you heard it here first.

It’s fun to do all the conjecturing that we do here and on other conservative sites. I enjoy it more than anyone. But let’s face it: If the vote on the House billed proved nothing else, it did show that we’re delusional if we think this can be stopped.

By: seven

seven — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:19:32 +0000

ABORTION IS NOT HELATHCARE

unseen on November 19, 2009 at 1:05 PM

Is health care,. When Jesse Jackson knocked up Karin Stanford, he almost had a back alley circumcision or more.
I oppose abortion but many males think it improved their life expectancy.

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Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:11:38 +0000

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By: inspectorudy

inspectorudy — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:06:46 +0000

Have you noticed how twisted Nelson’s arms look? That’s because they have been twisted into a corkscrew by Ried and BHO. Landreau will own La. after she votes for this POS. Is this any surprise to anyone? Liberman said that he would vote to get it to the floor for debate. Any surprise there? These blue dogs need some blue balls!

By: seanhackbarth

seanhackbarth — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:02:09 +0000

Sen. Mike Johanns spoke on the Senate floor about how Sen. Reid’s bill would allow government-funded abortions. He called pro-life Democrats to oppose voting to proceed to debate on the bill. Watch a clip here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ6uZRu4YSI

Sean Hackbarth
Senate Republican Conference

By: pedestrian

pedestrian — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:54:44 +0000

That’s obviously not what the status quo is now.

Jimbo3 on November 19, 2009 at 2:14 PM

So for every abortion state admitted to the Union there should be a pro-life state admitted as well. Only this time they are provisions to 2000 page bills.

By: Jimbo3

Jimbo3 — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:48:14 +0000

So I assume Dingy Harry’s bill corrected this technical problem to allow those benefits without paying for abortions, right?

d1carter on November 19, 2009 at 2:32 PM

–It would. It would also conform to the status quo by deciding each year whether or not abortions would be covered. Right now, the Hyde Amendment is passed each year during the budget process and the actual prohibition language has changed from year to year.

By: d1carter

d1carter — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:32:57 +0000

So I assume Dingy Harry’s bill corrected this technical problem to allow those benefits without paying for abortions, right?

By: Jimbo3

Jimbo3 — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:14:01 +0000

I see you are still stuck on this mythology that it is acceptable to play fast and loose with co-mingled funds as a front to get federally paid abortions. It is not going to fly.

highhopes on November 19, 2009 at 2:06 PM

–This has nothing to do with co-mingled funds. Stupak’s amendment says that nonfederal entities (including an individual or a State or local government) can purchase a plan that includes such abortions, so long as such coverage or plan is paid for entirely using only funds not authorized or appropriated by this Act…… The problem is that the Health Care Act appropriates funds to be given to private employers offering insurance for wellness programs and early retirement incentives. Technically, individuals couldn’t buy employer health care plans that took advantage of those incentives if those plans covered abortion.

That’s obviously not what the status quo is now.

By: That's Right

That's Right — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:07:04 +0000

The Abortion Funding Hot Potato…

Abortion has long been a hot potato in our political culture, but thi ……

By: highhopes

highhopes — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:06:51 +0000

Stupak’s amendment would probably prohibit most private employers from offering abortion. The healthcare bill provides incentives to companies for wellness initiatives and early retirement benefits and companies couldn’t offer abortion coverage if they took advantage of those incentives (most will).

Jimbo3 on November 19, 2009 at 1:54 PM

I see you are still stuck on this mythology that it is acceptable to play fast and loose with co-mingled funds as a front to get federally paid abortions. It is not going to fly.