Reid: No cap-and-trade debate until spring
posted at 2:35 pm on November 18, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
John Kerry and Barbara Boxer had insisted that they wanted to produce a bill on climate change in time to get it on the floor by the end of the year — which, given its political difficulties, would be as late as it could go with any hope of passage. Harry Reid appears to have driven a stake through the heart of those hopes. The Wall Street Journal reports that Reid has postponed debate until at least next spring, when legislators will be a lot more sensitive to job losses than carbon-dioxide emissions:
Senate Democratic leaders said Tuesday they would put off debate on a big climate-change bill until spring, in a sign of weakening political will to tackle a long-term environmental issue at a time of high unemployment and economic uncertainty.
Legislation on health care, overhauling financial markets and job creation will be considered before the Senate takes up a measure to cap emissions of carbon dioxide and other gases linked to climate change, Senate Democratic leaders said Tuesday.
Climate legislation will be taken up “some time in the spring,” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada said Tuesday after a Democratic caucus meeting.
“Some time in the spring” means about the same thing as “the twelfth of Never,” with apologies to Johnny Mathis. Democrats already had more problems with its moderates from normally red states on health-care reform, but the attack on coal industries in Waxman-Markey would have devastated the Midwest and the Rust Belt. Under normal circumstances, Reid may have convinced enough of them to go along in a non-election year to at least get to a floor vote, but the ObamaCare debate blew any chance of that. It has polarized the electorate and generated the biggest push against big government in years.
Now Reid wants to pretend that he’ll have that same debate just a few months before an election. Best of luck even getting to a cloture vote, Senator Reid. By that time, Democrats will be attempting to conduct contortionism in order to distance themselves from the radical Obama-Pelosi-Reid agenda — including Reid himself, who looks to be in serious trouble for his re-election bid in Nevada. The only way Reid wants that debate while trying to paint himself as a flinty, moderate independent to Nevada voters is if he has decided to retire at the end of 2010. Unfortunately for Reid, he’ll need a number of Democrats to pursue retirement at the same time.
If the Senate doesn’t get to cap-and-trade in 2010, the 112th Congress will have to start over from scratch in 2011. The chances of jamming another Waxman-Markey through either chamber will be much smaller, especially since it looks like the Democrats have a good chance of losing control of the House. Reid may as well have just struck the bill from the calendar altogether.









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Hallelujah
Rich on November 18, 2009 at 2:38 PM
I still think they will try to push something through in small sections, so it isn’t as noticed and will have a bigger “tax’ tag on it.
count on it.
upinak on November 18, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Victory?
It seems like it but these bastards always find a way and they know their time is limited with the majority they now enjoy.
Yakko77 on November 18, 2009 at 2:39 PM
The indecision on these awful lefty legislative boondoggles is also part of the problem. I’d rather see it actually dead than kicked down the road.
myrenovations on November 18, 2009 at 2:40 PM
Any word on the condition of Lindsey Graham after hearing the bad news?
fourdeucer on November 18, 2009 at 2:41 PM
The whole program to remake America is goin’ flaccid on them and no amount of jiggling it around is gonna pump er back up.
WOOT!
Itchee Dryback on November 18, 2009 at 2:41 PM
I love the smell of carbon in the morning.
LibTired on November 18, 2009 at 2:42 PM
They will depend on EPA to do their dirty work.
Dire Straits on November 18, 2009 at 2:42 PM
Right– as soon as the Indies see the unemployment figure drop to 10.1, they’ll be in the Blue camp celebrating the recovery.
leftnomore on November 18, 2009 at 2:42 PM
That is a temporary victory for America. We must keep the pressure on. Unfortunately these fools are starting to hear the American people and adjust accordingly.
rjoco1 on November 18, 2009 at 2:42 PM
Agreed. When you pin a wild animal in the corner, their actions become drastic, and often times dangerous, or deadly. God only knows what goes on in the warped minds of these radical socialists.
capejasmine on November 18, 2009 at 2:42 PM
Hit the Road Jack and don’tcha come back
No more no more no more no more,
faraway on November 18, 2009 at 2:43 PM
Crap-n-Tax and Amnesty on an election year… they really don’t want to get re-elected.
Kill It With Fire!
Enoxo on November 18, 2009 at 2:45 PM
DON’T FALL FOR THIS!
“Watch the birdie….” and we’ll have this crap rammed in in no time at all……
We need to ENSURE that this awful legislature dies 20 horrible deaths….. or that those who support it know they will have to endure “Tar & Feathers”….
rabidamerican on November 18, 2009 at 2:46 PM
Nice! To celebrate, I think I might go buy a Ford Expedition.
BPD on November 18, 2009 at 2:47 PM
heh
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another one bites the dust
cmsinaz on November 18, 2009 at 2:47 PM
They already do.
upinak on November 18, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Oh shoot! I would have loved to see them debate Global warming with a blizzard raging outside.
Juno77 on November 18, 2009 at 2:48 PM
And unlike their Palin infatuation, go for it Dems. Talk about it. Bring it to the floor.
WashJeff on November 18, 2009 at 2:48 PM
Al Gore’s head just exploded and created temperatures of at least a million degrees in the atmosphere.
hip shot on November 18, 2009 at 2:48 PM
And now if we can get a delay on Obamacare… Our mssion will be complete Jedi Knights.
Dire Straits on November 18, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Reid realized that after taxes have been increased on not only “the rich” but the middle class and the working class as well, there will just be no more money for the feds to take through a cap and trade scheme.
Cicero43 on November 18, 2009 at 2:51 PM
They never had any intention of passing this. If they did, their political weapon goes away. They will continue to hammer the GOP on this issue with the weak-kneed public.
faraway on November 18, 2009 at 2:52 PM
I hope crap and tax never rears it’s ulgy head again. Those guys who voted for this monstrosity should be booted out the door.
Brat4life on November 18, 2009 at 2:54 PM
Bingo…………..
EPA Employees Silenced for Criticizing Cap and Trade
Knucklehead on November 18, 2009 at 2:55 PM
Graham is terribly disappointed…
right2bright on November 18, 2009 at 2:56 PM
Well, I wouldn’t call this a victory either but it sure is a step in the right direction as is the outcry against that idiot Gore.
They’ve got a problem. A big problem. The 3 things that they want most, Healthcare, Crap and Tax and All illegals legal are not going through as easily as they thought. They are way behind on their self imposed time line and they have under a year left. I would love to be a fly on the wall with the leftists trying to decide which is the most important. Clearly the one with the biggest payday but i’ll bet determining that is no longer easy or clear.
ORconservative on November 18, 2009 at 3:00 PM
And this happens the same time as NBC’s Green Week. How fitting. So does this mean Al Gore, GE, and all the others who’ve spent all this capital thinking the government would subsidize alternative energy sources and create a carbon credit trade are stuck with a worthless investment? I sincerely hope so.
Doughboy on November 18, 2009 at 3:00 PM
I will celebrate by filling the air out back with a haze of carbony gunsmoke.
Bishop on November 18, 2009 at 3:01 PM
EPA IS doing the dirty work. Look it up.
They are about to issue the Green House Gas Tailoring Rule that will officially make CO2 a regulated pollutant.
This will then mean that all businesses who emit CO2 will have to figure out how much and may suddenly find themselves having to apply for Air Quality Permits, made to put on controls, and pay yearly fees based on these emissions.
In short many businesses not considered “small” in the Air Quality regulatory field will now be major sources and subject to much tighter regulation. This will cost money and jobs at small businesses that can’t afford it right now.
UcantCme on November 18, 2009 at 3:02 PM
Meanwhile Reid plans on having the senate take a vote on DeathCare this coming friday.
Smoke and mirrors, so much for the celebrating.
Bishop on November 18, 2009 at 3:04 PM
Worry not. He’ll just find another bill or two (or 100) for which he can reach across the aisle.
TXUS on November 18, 2009 at 3:04 PM
Ladies and gentlemen—-start your engines!
Rovin on November 18, 2009 at 3:04 PM
Yes, I’ll have another big helping of that. More please!
KeepOhioRed on November 18, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Yeah, but when that causes even more layoffs and bankruptcies, what exactly do the Dems think that’ll do to their electoral prospects? Or is Obama planning to throw the entire EPA under the bus? That’ll give him a hernia.
Doughboy on November 18, 2009 at 3:05 PM
With crap and tax on the back burner, they will focus on the healthcare, not time for the illegal alien deal right now, next spring perhaps if they’re feeling froggy. Health care is the big payoff for unions and AARP and the other hangers on. Healthcare is where the big money is and always follow the money.
If they muck up healthcare it is their Waterloo, they will do anything to get it passed. Watch the fireworks in the next month.
hip shot on November 18, 2009 at 3:05 PM
You are a good man.
fourdeucer on November 18, 2009 at 3:05 PM
http://www.epa.gov/NSR/fs20090930action.html
Fact Sheet on the Green House Gas (GHG) Tailoring Rule proposed by EPA.
UcantCme on November 18, 2009 at 3:06 PM
Obama has failed the world.
Schadenfreude on November 18, 2009 at 3:06 PM
Celebratory bean burritos for everyone.
TexasDan on November 18, 2009 at 3:06 PM
Photo Caption:
“…then, after I take the gag out your puny, worthless mouth, I’m gonna grab your balls….like THIS…and squeeeze them like rotten grapes….”
BobMbx on November 18, 2009 at 3:07 PM
‘Perfect’ timing to go to Copenhagen to receive the Nobel, for absolutely nada.
How foolish does the committee look, over, and over…and he too…how sweet and schadenfreudig!
Schadenfreude on November 18, 2009 at 3:09 PM
I guess the bankruptcy of the our country should be the first prority before they bankrupt the global economy. Patience is golden when you are really globally oriented. Just one step at a time. It is hard to explain when you look at your country as a hurdle.
volsense on November 18, 2009 at 3:22 PM
The only good news about these idiots and their idiotic agendas is that they are too stupid to get any of this stupid legislation passed.
AUINSC on November 18, 2009 at 3:29 PM
gosh, why don’t you toss amnesty into the mix, too?
John the Libertarian on November 18, 2009 at 3:33 PM
Caption for this photo:
Reid succumbs to Peolosi’s Vulcan neck pinch.
Pilgrimsarbour on November 18, 2009 at 3:46 PM
Er, that’s Pelosi.
Pilgrimsarbour on November 18, 2009 at 3:47 PM
Predictable! Now slam this socialized/rationed health care BS down to a skeleton of its current form and we have Obowma’s Waterloo and the Union is preserved.
FireBlogger on November 18, 2009 at 3:48 PM
Of course they want to fight Global Warming in the spring. Since there’s more land area (and more thermometers) in the Northern Hemisphere than the Southern Hemisphere, “average” temperatures rise in Northern Hemisphere spring and “fall” in Northern Hemisphere fall.
You wouldn’t want to pass an anti-Global Warming bill when things are already getting colder. Besides, we might want to burn some midnight oil during those cold winter nights!
Steve Z on November 18, 2009 at 4:06 PM
How many “Climate Change Martyr’s” in the House of Reps today wishes that they had their vote back on this boondoggle? Nothing like really, really sticking your political neck out, just to get it stretched by Harry now.
I believe that if this vote fails to go before the Senate, AND if the Dems lose control of the Senate (?) and/or House next year, that there should be some type of landmine legislation that guards AGAINST bringing shiite like this up again. There has to be a protection against foisting boondoggles like this on Americans and someone has to look out for our best interests. Obviously, the Dems aren’t doing that.
Where’s my boy blue? Where’s my boy fins? How your Dem boys in the Congress doing with their nuts in a vise?
ted c on November 18, 2009 at 4:11 PM
Those new Camaros are looking fine now that you mention it….
ted c on November 18, 2009 at 4:12 PM
It can’t pass in the winter. Too much chance of a blizzard in Washington. It can’t pass in the summer except if there is a record heat wave. The election next summer will kill that.
seven on November 18, 2009 at 5:08 PM
Well I certainly hope so, but there are a lot of fanatics out there.
Dhuka on November 18, 2009 at 5:23 PM
Finally…I figured out what that picture is about. Pelosi is demonstrating to “If you don’t eat your meat, how can you have any pudding?”, Reid, the proper technique for removing the heart of your victim.
Kali Ma! Kali Ma!
Army Brat on November 18, 2009 at 5:52 PM
People will hate this just as much next spring as they do today.
Terrye on November 18, 2009 at 5:52 PM
Even though this is probably dead on arrival in the senate I’m thinking the EPA will screw us badly with their regulations.
chemman on November 18, 2009 at 5:56 PM
I’ll believe it when I see it.
patrick neid on November 18, 2009 at 6:31 PM
The poor dears. They’ll have to settle for bankrupting the entire country, and not just the coal-producing states, with the crap sandwich known as ObamaCare.
Paul_in_NJ on November 19, 2009 at 1:55 PM