Recovery chief: Yeah, I can’t back up those numbers
posted at 10:12 am on November 18, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Over the last couple of weeks, the media and the blogosphere has dissected the numbers coming from Recovery.gov and found them laughably phony. The pièce de resistance came when Watchdog.org noticed that the government-run accountability website appeared not to know that the US has only 435 Congressional districts, instead of the 875 listed on the website — but listed almost $6.4 billion in spending in the phantom districts. However, as we have seen here, phony “saved or created” numbers are the norm, not the exception, and most of the jobs data are insupportable.
And even Earl Devaney, the man in charge at Recovery.org, can’t deny it. In a response to Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), Devaney says that he cannot certify any of the jobs data published by the government:
The chairman of the Obama administration’s Recovery Board is telling lawmakers that he can’t certify jobs data posted at the Recovery.gov Web site — and doesn’t have access to a “master list” of stimulus recipients that have neglected to report data.
Earl Devaney, the chairman of the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board, responded to questions posed by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., late yesterday to say the board can’t vouch for the numbers submitted by recipients of stimulus funding.
“Your letter specifically asks if I am able to certify that the number of jobs reported as created/saved on Recovery.gov is accurate and auditable. No, I am not able to make this certification,” Devaney wrote, in a letter provided to ABC News.
Devaney rejected Issa’s suggestion that the site include a more prominent disclaimer, such as an asterisk or a footnote. He said the site already does mention in a note to users that “errors and omissions” are likely.
Issa responded:
“This just confirms what we already know, that [the] Administration cannot certify info on recovery.gov as accurate and auditable. The man charged with providing accountability for stimulus spending cannot verify the accuracy of the job reports that the Administration – filtered through [the Office of Management and Budget] – have provided him.”
“It’s a startling admission that he hasn’t even been provided with a list of who should have reported, which means he can’t know who didn’t report, which just adds fuel to the argument that the whole effort at transparency has failed. The Administration has provided inaccurate data, missing data, data that might be missing but they don’t even know for sure.
Issa should give Devaney a break. The problem isn’t Devaney, or at least not entirely his. Devaney should get the heave-ho after the database errors that Watchdog.org discovered, for example. The failure to set up an $18 million database to restrict for proper Congressional district data is inexplicable. It’s the kind of error that people using a $200 copy of Microsoft Access would have easily avoided.
However, Devaney can’t certify the jobs data for a more fundamental reason: it’s all fake. The “saved or created” formulas from the White House do not relate to reality, even when properly reported back to Recovery.gov. As we have seen in state after state, the jobs listed as “saved” were mostly never at risk in the first place. In most cases, they were public-safety and education jobs that would have been spared in favor of other, less critical bureaucrat positions that states didn’t want to highlight as existing, let alone being “saved.”
Devaney’s incompetence on database maintenance only makes the problem more obvious. In fact, it may overshadow the real shell games being conducted with Porkulus funds as this administration desperately tries to claim job creation as unemployment spirals to new highs.









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r u telling me nows not the time to purge this admin? when r we gonna start impeachment process.. at least a hearing… lets have a vote on it.
moonbatkiller on November 18, 2009 at 10:14 AM
This Devaney is angling for Obama to throw him under the bus for making O look bad. I’d watch out if I was him.
David Mickelson on November 18, 2009 at 10:14 AM
Gee, and the man charged with enforcing the tax code cannot comply with it himself.
The most corrupt and unethical administration ever. So where, exactly, is the money going?
rbj on November 18, 2009 at 10:16 AM
I’m so happy the adults are in charge.
GetALifeJetBoyBleedsBlueSimpleSimonNormanBlitzerFail
Shiny_Tiara on November 18, 2009 at 10:16 AM
This administration is worse that a third-rate magician at the airport Holiday Inn lounge.
hillbillyjim on November 18, 2009 at 10:16 AM
Never get impeachment through Pelosi or the conviction through Reid, but if we can get rid of Pelosi AND Reid in 2010 we’ve got a shot.
Christian Conservative on November 18, 2009 at 10:17 AM
And now Democrats in Congress to take $200 million of already approved TARP funds and use it on a program to create public sector jobs … which would either be one-year make-work stuff to get the jobless rate down for the 2010 election, or a continuing drain on taxpayers simply to boost potential SEIU membership, since they’d be ongoing government jobs, as if there aren’t enough of those already.
jon1979 on November 18, 2009 at 10:18 AM
That’s for you, Bleeds Blue.
Obama’s approval numbers continue to fall because people are not getting the stimulus that they were promised (jobs, handouts, etc.).
Democrats in power will get the stimulus and we will get the bill.
Let me pour you another cup of Kool-Aid, Bleeds Blue.
Mark Boabaca on November 18, 2009 at 10:18 AM
I thought Gibbsy said Earl Devaney was fired (via Michael Ramirez).
WashJeff on November 18, 2009 at 10:19 AM
How long before this man is fired? My bet’s on Monday.
milwife88 on November 18, 2009 at 10:19 AM
I hope the database developers are unionized gov’t employees who can’t be discharged.
jaime on November 18, 2009 at 10:20 AM
My thoughts and fantasies turned your statement to Obama … and then I woke up =(
Mark Boabaca on November 18, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Where’s Sheriff Joe when you need him?
Wethal on November 18, 2009 at 10:20 AM
They haave GOT to be doing it on purpose, thats the only thing that makes any sense to me. They are just hoping the majority of America won’t even hear about the problems that are going on and it’s probably a pretty safe bet when ALL of the media are cutting the Government so much slack.
Mord on November 18, 2009 at 10:20 AM
I thought Biden was in charge of the stimulus package. What does he have to say?
d1carter on November 18, 2009 at 10:21 AM
It’s not Devaney who is incompetant.
It’s the entire administration.
But of course, that’s the least of our problems.
Incompetance pales when compared with the deliberate destruction of the greatest country that has ever existed.
No matter what your politics, you have to ask yourself why?
And no matter what your politics, you have to ask yourself what you are going to do about it.
notagool on November 18, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Obama’s implementation of Cloward and Piven in action!
patriotparty1 on November 18, 2009 at 10:22 AM
hell, you can probably even restrict it with excel (and I got a $10copy of MS enterprise that includes Access).
Big Govmint: Doing far less, with far more ….. makin’ sh!t harder than it should be.
ted c on November 18, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Picking his nose.
sammypants on November 18, 2009 at 10:23 AM
With all due respect to Issa, I think the whole effort at transparency has been a phenomenal success.
Dusty on November 18, 2009 at 10:24 AM
taney71 where are you!
thomasaur on November 18, 2009 at 10:24 AM
“But the database has integrity…it’s not our job to ensure quality!!!”
Joe Caps on November 18, 2009 at 10:24 AM
Sorry Ed,none of these people deserve a break!
ohiobabe on November 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM
getting in accidents and making appearances on fake news shows.
Joe Caps on November 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM
This administration has no problem making things up or getting caught. They just shrug. That could not be the attitude if the MSM did they job. Yes, I know they are reporting it but that will be all they do, it will disappear.
Cindy Munford on November 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM
“You’re already being scammed.”
Thank you, Joe Biden for finally telling the truth.
Abby Adams on November 18, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Wherever are the trolls in this thread?
/tumbleweeds
CurtZHP on November 18, 2009 at 10:26 AM
ever. So where, exactly, is the money going?
rbj on November 18, 2009 at 10:16 AM
//
Funds for reelecting the dems.
ohiobabe on November 18, 2009 at 10:26 AM
And this administration wants to take over healthcare? Seriously? I’m not even laughing anymore……after yesterday’s news, I’m ready to start some “Save Our Boobs” or “Stop Messing with My Tatas You Boob!” protests. :(
atlgal on November 18, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Impeachment, indictment, imprisonment. Everyone from the lower-level incompetents through a vast majority of Congress right up to Osama Obama himself needs to be removed from office and punished for what seems certain to be criminal behavior in this and many other areas.
Remember the Declaration of Independence. There comes a time when citizens have not only the right but the duty to rise up against tyrannical leaders. Do we wait until America in beyond salvage?
MrScribbler on November 18, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Biden can’t even certify the validity of his own existence.
TXUS on November 18, 2009 at 10:27 AM
The party of smoke and mirrors. The panel on FOX last night was saying the administration is losing their credibility. I thought to myself, is this a repeat? They started doing that months ago.
scalleywag on November 18, 2009 at 10:27 AM
People used to point fingers and laugh at long haired commie pinko drugged out hippies. Now they are running our country using the strategies dreamed up in some sort of LSD indused state for the radical takeover of our way of life to inact their Manson commune style of life.
The question is why did we stop pointing fingers and laughing at them. When Vallarie Jarret said she was “speaking truth to power”, why did the interviewer not laugh and say, what are you some kind of commie? That is what they would have done in the past, and what we must do again. Start pointing fingers at their Alinsky loving STUPID, DANGEROUS, TRAITOROUS, plans for this country and laugh them right out of government.
patriotparty1 on November 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM
I have no trouble believing that the government could completely screw up something as simple as setting up a database, even with a budget of $18 million. Just another reminder that these are the people that we’re being asked to trust with health care for everyone.
Tonus on November 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM
You gunnin’ fer a job on the Obama team?
Cuz ya sure know how to spin the story.
‘effort at transparency … phenomenal success’
The liberal way: “At least they tried.“
Mark Boabaca on November 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM
I’ve lost track of who has been run over by Barry’s bus by now. We need somebody to create trading cards with the dearly departeds, photoshopped with tire treads across them, a la Saddam’s Most Wanted playing cards.
Patrick S on November 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM
The media is the problem because they have a leftest agenda. They got BO elected and are doing everything in their power to prop up and cover for him as he systemically dismantles this country. They are enablers of the coup and people just don’t want to see them for what they really are.
RagTag on November 18, 2009 at 10:29 AM
So Devaney will be the convenient fall guy, while the traditional media ignore the main point as Ed articulated it: even honestly and correctly reported “jobs saved or created” data are inherently phony. So we get to make a scapegoat out of someone for those data that are obviously dishonest or mistaken, while the media and the administration frantically try to spin the nation into believing that the overall concept still is valid. It is not — and we’ve been stuck with a $780 billion tab to pay for it, adding injury to insult.
Oh, and now Steny Hoyer is pushing for a 2nd stimulus bill that will “really” focus on jobs. How about fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me?
jwolf on November 18, 2009 at 10:29 AM
It is quite appearent that illiberals are incapable of critizing their leadership on issues that even they (the trolls) know are just wrong. When you are not governed by principles, only power, you need to keep mum on your faults.
WashJeff on November 18, 2009 at 10:29 AM
&%#$@^&*#@!
j_galt on November 18, 2009 at 10:30 AM
I thought O said that Joe was in charge. Somebody messed with Joe so maybe it’s time for Joe to go.
tims472 on November 18, 2009 at 10:31 AM
Remember that liberal speak is opposite. If liberals say this is a transparent government then it is most assuredly not.
RagTag on November 18, 2009 at 10:31 AM
Where’s the f*ckin money, Devaney?
WisCon on November 18, 2009 at 10:32 AM
taney71 where are you!
thomasaur on November 18, 2009 at 10:24 AM
That Moby got harpooned in the other thread.
kingsjester on November 18, 2009 at 10:32 AM
Good question. One that we’ll obviously never get an honest answer to. Frankly, if they can’t even figure out how many districts how in the world are they going to keep track of billions of dollars? We’ve been taken to the cleaners and we’ll be paying for it for decades to come.
scalleywag on November 18, 2009 at 10:33 AM
Coming out of your paycheck, and mine, and his, and hers …
Mark Boabaca on November 18, 2009 at 10:33 AM
So much for the “you’ll know where every dime is spent” promise.
BobMbx on November 18, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Why do I feel like Obama’s economy is a house of cards?
lovingmyUSA on November 18, 2009 at 10:35 AM
We have got a real battle on our hands. It is downright scary what is going on. Glad you are on our side.
Geochelone on November 18, 2009 at 10:36 AM
Call me old-fashioned but I think there should be a central point in government with a ledger/spreadsheet which can tell the taxpayer where every cent of the stimulus dollars went. Not to which organization but to whom, by name, got the check. This is irresponsibility (read fraud) on a massive scale to be this incompetent. Unfortunately, Devaney will get fired and his successor will simply blame all future problems with accountability on the fact that they inherited a mess from Devaney.
highhopes on November 18, 2009 at 10:37 AM
Maybe they could lateral this shmoe over to FEMA?
khacha on November 18, 2009 at 10:37 AM
Nuts
hawkman on November 18, 2009 at 10:39 AM
My Spidey Sense tells me that Mr. Devaney is going to know what the bottom side of a bus looks like.
jukin on November 18, 2009 at 10:40 AM
Accountability only applies to businesses not governments, silly.
Mark Boabaca on November 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM
Leftists work for a common cause and anything goes in the effort to support that cause. Liberals are the useful idiots of the leftest and will parrot their talking points because they are told they are good people if they do. Liberals want and need to feel good about themselves and the leftists know just how to stroke them.
Leftists have zero morals and will say or do anything to demonize the opposition. I’ve always said that if you want to ban gay marriage then conservatives especially religious ones should start promoting it. The left would go apesh!t in opposition and liberals would follow suite to feel relevant. All social issues and causes are nothing more then weapons in their arsenal to use as needed. The cause is meaningless as long as it can be used against the opposition.
RagTag on November 18, 2009 at 10:42 AM
Settle down folks. Those missing districts are in the seven to nine states you didn’t know about until The Won told us.
katablog.com on November 18, 2009 at 10:42 AM
In this case, I think the incompetence was by design. How else is the filthy lying coward going to funnel money to groups and individuals even more corrupt and partisan than ACORN which received enough federal dollars through documented means. Can you imagine what criminals on the Democrat payroll got hundreds of thousands of dollars thanks to bogus Congressional districts and “faulty” databases?
highhopes on November 18, 2009 at 10:43 AM
The unspent portion of Porkulus should be frozen until sensible and sane accounting practices are in effect and an honest accounting is made public for every dollar spent thus far.
Actually, the whole clusterfark should be repealed, but that’ll never happen.
hillbillyjim on November 18, 2009 at 10:44 AM
Fail.
Bruce in NH on November 18, 2009 at 10:44 AM
While we’re at it, someone needs to check SEIU’s coffers.
hillbillyjim on November 18, 2009 at 10:45 AM
I’m betting the filthy lying coward will not come out and announce “You’re doing a heck of a job Earl!”
highhopes on November 18, 2009 at 10:45 AM
Good point. Are US Treasury payouts subject to FOIA requests?
jwolf on November 18, 2009 at 10:45 AM
This just means they are ready to take over 1/6 of the economy. – Bleeds Blue
lorien1973 on November 18, 2009 at 10:45 AM
\Troll hat on
Bush hacked the database. Rove entered the lies.
/Troll hat off
Yoop on November 18, 2009 at 10:46 AM
Late Friday afternoon?
SKYFOX on November 18, 2009 at 10:46 AM
Uh oh…somebody count the number of reps voting for socialism…make sure the vote total is 435 (or less).
Oh, if you want to know where the money went, you’ll be happy to know that 6 months ago I legally changed my name to VA-43. And I have saved so many jobs.
BobMbx on November 18, 2009 at 10:47 AM
In some large companies this would take forever. The shear number of checks that get cut means you put everything into batches of checks. The batches are summed up into what accounts they hit. That batch is what hits the accounting books. If you didn’t do this, you’re GL would be a million miles long – every check that gets written hits -at least- 2 accounts.
lorien1973 on November 18, 2009 at 10:47 AM
Agree, with a slight amendment.
BobMbx on November 18, 2009 at 10:49 AM
One of them is in my back forty. I’m going in to the post office in about an hour and look for my check.
Yoop on November 18, 2009 at 10:49 AM
This administration is worse that a third-rate magician at the airport Holiday Inn lounge. hillbillyjim on November 18, 2009 at 10:16 AM“Thanks… try the veal,” -The Amazing Obooba.
Akzed on November 18, 2009 at 10:49 AM
“Thanks… try the veal,” -The Amazing Obooba.
/ahem…
Akzed on November 18, 2009 at 10:50 AM
I’m sure they are but the problem here is that there wasn’t any accountability in the first place. Tax Cheat Gietner can only report on what has been recorded. The filthy lying coward ensured that not all dollars came with a paper trail. Who knows what radical causes benefited from the taxpayers of America, how many DNC slush funds are overflowing with unaccounted for dollars, how many terrorists have been bankrolled.
highhopes on November 18, 2009 at 10:50 AM
Just as Obama’s political-only AG Holder testified that there is “presumption” in his department that terrorists will be tried in federal courts, there should be a presumption by the public that everything the Obama administration announces to the public is false. All Obama-administration announcements and published information is part of the political campaign, and Obama’s team has no more interest in the truth now than it did in the pre-election part of its campaign.
GaltBlvnAtty on November 18, 2009 at 10:52 AM
Tipping point. I think this administration has pushed to the edge. Holder’s decision. Obama’s indecision. China’s puppetry of O’s visit. $12 trillion debt. December jobs summit not about job creation. ShamWow Bow. Health care reform disaster. Failing Cap and Trade policy. No Climate Change treaty.
I can’t list everything because I have to get to work, but the embarrassments keep mounting. It’s becoming nearly impossible for the MSM to spin this in total, though they never cease to amaze.
DrStock on November 18, 2009 at 10:52 AM
Anybody else think that the word “tranparency” is being a bit overused by this administration?
The ironic thing about it is that most of their actions are anything but transparent.
UltimateBob on November 18, 2009 at 10:52 AM
Right, but the info is available. Just not to us, right now.
Every year the IRS tracks and archives ~100 million tax returns. They know who did and who did not file, and whether they had to write a check or got a refund.
It’s not that hard. We’ve got these things called computers, and they’re pretty cool.
BobMbx on November 18, 2009 at 10:52 AM
This is the one that would finally finish them off. Need to dig deep into the money trail.
Yoop on November 18, 2009 at 10:53 AM
When you are through fussing about the erroneous jobs saved/created numbers, you’ll want to jump over to this story for sure. It will really make you feel even better.
katablog.com on November 18, 2009 at 10:53 AM
I’m sure the kind of accountability I want would be difficult for the government as well but that really isn’t the point. This administration has put us far into debt. The least they can do is accurately tell us where those dollars went so that we can guage return on investment with something concrete.
highhopes on November 18, 2009 at 10:54 AM
Barak Madoff. Impeach Now..before its too late.
How is what these scam artists are selling and different the the Flying Spaghetti Dollar Monster that Madoff peddled?
Its the same thing playing out. There were indications and attempts by regulators over the years that laid out, with documented proof that Madoff had been perpetrating a scam. But it was ignored and he was given the benefit of the doubt, and even excuses made for him, because he was such a nice guy.
This is the same thing that is happening with the whole Maobama administration. The special interest influences are all right out there in the open..the obvious economy crushing legislation shaped or actually written by the special interests (does anyone know who actually wrote the health care bills?) are know to be economy crushers etc..but nobody wants to believe its actually true. Maobama is such a nice guy.
Itchee Dryback on November 18, 2009 at 10:54 AM
and = any
only 1 the.
coffee= more.
Itchee Dryback on November 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM
It’s a good summation but IMO, not the tipping point. Far too many partisans out there defending the rat bastard traitor and too many corrupt Dems in Congress who have to defend the filthy lying coward as cover for their own actions. We have not reached the Obama’s “rabbit attack” moment but I think we are only a matter of a few months away from that event.
highhopes on November 18, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Please don’t mention the fact that the vast majority of fraud is committed in social programs. Like, no reason to state the obvious.
BobMbx on November 18, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Where is “Sheriff” Joe Biden?
albill on November 18, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Devaney should have stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night, oh hell, stay all year. What I want to know is where is my money? NO one seems to be asking the Won that question.
Kissmygrits on November 18, 2009 at 10:58 AM
I think those states were uncovered when the oceans began to recede when Dear Liar was nominated by the Democratic-communist party.
How much money did George Soros spend to get The Whine elected. He is a shrewd investor, he’s not going to spend money without expecting to get more back.
rbj on November 18, 2009 at 10:59 AM
I’m just saying it’s a lot harder to get a list of all the checks written to whom and when – even for a major company. When I worked at a small lawfirm, which wrote maybe 500 checks a week, it took forever to get the information for exactly the reasons I stated.
Geesh, I remember FedEx calling me on occasion to try and balance out their statements with what I had paid them. Takes forever. It’s a pain, but from the GL standpoint, I get why it’s done. I’m not saying it’s not available, I’m just saying you can’t reasonably expect the government to answer, on demand, who received a check, when and for how much. Too much data to sift through.
And worse, I’m not even sure that information is centrally located in the government. I bet multiple agencies have check writing abilities (much like the lawfirm I worked at, which had satellite offices) – so the data is probably behind for a period of time.
I get where you are coming from. I’d like to see it too. It’ll never happen, not only because what people would want (immediate answers) is damned near impossible, but because people would nitpick every $2 check that went to something. It’d just bog everything down.
Hmmm…now that I think about it, it’s not a bad idea. Heh.
lorien1973 on November 18, 2009 at 11:00 AM
[Mark Boabaca on November 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM]
Well, it is the truth, but not in the way you infer. Do you think that transparency is what caused this farce, or that if only there wasn’t transparency, the program/process would have been a model of integrity and quality?
No, this whole effort at transparency has shown government for what it is, the Four Horsemen of Politics: Maladministration, Mismanagement, Unaccountability and Corruption.
Transparency has allowed us to see this as never before.
Dusty on November 18, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Got a whole lotta Obama Love out there bought and paid for.
BigWyo on November 18, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Of course, this sort of gross incompetence is avoided in the House health care bill, right?
Kafir on November 18, 2009 at 11:00 AM
lorien1973 on November 18, 2009 at 10:47 AM:
Sorry, that’s a lame excuse. The Recovery.gov site is not suppose to be a copy of the Gov’s G/L. The US Taxpayers paid millions of dollars because the Gov insisted they need to spend that much of the people’s money on a web site so the Gov could account to the people on how they spent the money.
Every check that is written has an accounting record behind it. Any check that was written on Stimulus funds could have been easily picked up and entered into the d/b if the Gov had an intention of telling the people the truth.
The BO admin simply wasted more of the taxpayers money on a web site they never intended to tell anything but more of the same fiction they’ve been outputting since day one. They simply didn’t expect to get caught.
katablog.com on November 18, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Joe was in Phoenix this week, touting a huge Recovery Act success story; a laundrymat that opened in Phoenix and used govt funds to buy energy efficient washing machines!
woo hoo! that created one whole job.
DrW on November 18, 2009 at 11:03 AM
Three Card Monty…..that’s all it is.
PatriotRider on November 18, 2009 at 11:05 AM
highhopes on November 18, 2009 at 10:57 AM
We shall see. The not-Fox media broke the story on the Recovery.gov site. Others followed. I think that the media outlets are going to feel compelled at some point.
DrStock on November 18, 2009 at 11:05 AM
The most offensive part in all of this is….that Obama and his ilk STILL believe we’re all so stupid, that we believe everything they hurl at us.
capejasmine on November 18, 2009 at 11:05 AM
And a whole lot of whores with new names in their little black books. Just sayin’.
Yoop on November 18, 2009 at 11:06 AM
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