Comments on: CBO: Senate ObamaCare bill would reduce deficit by $127 billion over 10 years http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/ The world’s first, full-service conservative Internet broadcast network Wed, 15 Feb 2012 07:13:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Health Care Quake: Mayo Dropping Medicare http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-2/#comment-3109593 Health Care Quake: Mayo Dropping Medicare Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:49:25 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-3109593 [...] CBO: Senate ObamaCare bill would reduce deficit by $127 billion over 10 years (hotair.com) [...] [...] CBO: Senate ObamaCare bill would reduce deficit by $127 billion over 10 years (hotair.com) [...]

]]> By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Top Democrat: Oh yeah, Reid’s ObamaCare bill actually costs $2.5 trillion http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-2/#comment-3007245 Hot Air » Blog Archive » Top Democrat: Oh yeah, Reid’s ObamaCare bill actually costs $2.5 trillion Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:17:42 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-3007245 [...] counting. If you start counting before the program actually kicks in, you get that nice, worthless deficit-neutral number that CBO found. If you start counting when you’re supposed to start counting, you get the [...] [...] counting. If you start counting before the program actually kicks in, you get that nice, worthless deficit-neutral number that CBO found. If you start counting when you’re supposed to start counting, you get the [...]

]]> By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Gibbs on gigantic national debt: Hey, don’t forget the savings ObamaCare http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-2/#comment-2982055 Hot Air » Blog Archive » Gibbs on gigantic national debt: Hey, don’t forget the savings ObamaCare Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:45:09 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-2982055 [...] years. Minor point one: As previously noted, $130 billion is less than the budget deficit incurred just last month. Minor point two: As hopefully everyone knows by now, the only reason Reid’s bill costs as [...] [...] years. Minor point one: As previously noted, $130 billion is less than the budget deficit incurred just last month. Minor point two: As hopefully everyone knows by now, the only reason Reid’s bill costs as [...]

]]> By: Always To The Right http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2976334 Always To The Right Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:42:08 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-2976334 <strong>“All Were Asking Today Is To Have A Debate On It… What Are They Afraid Of?”...</strong> Reid on Senate’s ObamaCare bill: Hey, no worries — it’s all paid for If you don’t have time to watch, fear not: You’ll have plenty of opportunities in the future, as this is destined to be a staple of GOP attack ads for...... “All Were Asking Today Is To Have A Debate On It… What Are They Afraid Of?”…

Reid on Senate’s ObamaCare bill: Hey, no worries — it’s all paid for
If you don’t have time to watch, fear not: You’ll have plenty of
opportunities in the future, as this is destined to be a staple of GOP
attack ads for……

]]> By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Reid on Senate’s ObamaCare bill: Hey, no worries — it’s all paid for http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2974887 Hot Air » Blog Archive » Reid on Senate’s ObamaCare bill: Hey, no worries — it’s all paid for Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:18:15 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-2974887 [...] are added and the conference committee goes to work on it, but if Reid’s hot to play the CBO game, let’s play it. From today’s Journal, here’s Douglas Holtz-Eakin, former McCain [...] [...] are added and the conference committee goes to work on it, but if Reid’s hot to play the CBO game, let’s play it. From today’s Journal, here’s Douglas Holtz-Eakin, former McCain [...]

]]> By: Reaction to Senate Bill – Blog Watch http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2966773 Reaction to Senate Bill – Blog Watch Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:09:48 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-2966773 [...] Hot Air’s Allah Pundit is very unimpressed, and argues that a CBO score matters only “when it’s bad:” Another week, another “scoring” of a bill that (a) looks nothing like what it’ll look like in its final form and (b) almost certainly has been crafted to hide certain key costs (a la “doctor fix” in the House bill) to improve its “score.” Realistically, the only time a CBO score matters is when it’s bad: Were this to come in at over $900 billion or be judged a deficit-buster over the long term, it would be rejected for failing to meet the White House’s baseline demands. But this one just makes the cut, so look for the obligatory back-pat in this weekend’s presidential message about it being a “fine starting point” or an “encouraging beginning” or whatever. Reid managed to come up with a bill that isn’t too expensive … for Barack Obama. Congratulations. [...] [...] Hot Air’s Allah Pundit is very unimpressed, and argues that a CBO score matters only “when it’s bad:” Another week, another “scoring” of a bill that (a) looks nothing like what it’ll look like in its final form and (b) almost certainly has been crafted to hide certain key costs (a la “doctor fix” in the House bill) to improve its “score.” Realistically, the only time a CBO score matters is when it’s bad: Were this to come in at over $900 billion or be judged a deficit-buster over the long term, it would be rejected for failing to meet the White House’s baseline demands. But this one just makes the cut, so look for the obligatory back-pat in this weekend’s presidential message about it being a “fine starting point” or an “encouraging beginning” or whatever. Reid managed to come up with a bill that isn’t too expensive … for Barack Obama. Congratulations. [...]

]]> By: Reid’s ObamaCare bill: $127 billion in new taxes | You Decide Politics http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2966644 Reid’s ObamaCare bill: $127 billion in new taxes | You Decide Politics Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:26:46 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-2966644 [...] Air comments: Another week, another “scoring” of a bill that (a) looks nothing like what it’ll look like [...] [...] Air comments: Another week, another “scoring” of a bill that (a) looks nothing like what it’ll look like [...]

]]> By: maverick muse http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2966507 maverick muse Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:49:27 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-2966507 Democrats would reduce deficit by $127 billion over 10 years, given that their lies were true--CBO Democrats would reduce deficit by $127 billion over 10 years, given that their lies were true–CBO

]]> By: Rae http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2966123 Rae Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:54:50 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-2966123 Am I to understand that Reid's Big Medical System bill was released late last night, clocks in at 2074 pages, and the "world's greatest deliberative body" will vote on it Friday -- as in tomorrow? That's two days to read the bill. This is legislative malpractice. I have frickin' HAD IT with those tyrannical clowns. <em>When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.</em> And suffer we have... Am I to understand that Reid’s Big Medical System bill was released late last night, clocks in at 2074 pages, and the “world’s greatest deliberative body” will vote on it Friday — as in tomorrow? That’s two days to read the bill.

This is legislative malpractice.

I have frickin’ HAD IT with those tyrannical clowns.

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

And suffer we have…

]]> By: kens http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2965930 kens Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:56:42 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-2965930 And basketballs have feathers, idiot! And basketballs have feathers, idiot!

]]> By: TrickyDick http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2965867 TrickyDick Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:22:37 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-2965867 Fuzzy math. Fuzzy math.

]]> By: Quiet Down, Harry Reid Has Something To Say « Around The Sphere http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2965797 Quiet Down, Harry Reid Has Something To Say « Around The Sphere Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:43:46 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-2965797 [...] Allah Pundit: Another week, another “scoring” of a bill that (a) looks nothing like what it’ll look like in its final form and (b) almost certainly has been crafted to hide certain key costs (a la “doctor fix” in the House bill) to improve its “score.” Realistically, the only time a CBO score matters is when it’s bad: Were this to come in at over $900 billion or be judged a deficit-buster over the long term, it would be rejected for failing to meet the White House’s baseline demands. But this one just makes the cut, so look for the obligatory back-pat in this weekend’s presidential message about it being a “fine starting point” or an “encouraging beginning” or whatever. Reid managed to come up with a bill that isn’t too expensive … for Barack Obama. Congratulations. [...] [...] Allah Pundit: Another week, another “scoring” of a bill that (a) looks nothing like what it’ll look like in its final form and (b) almost certainly has been crafted to hide certain key costs (a la “doctor fix” in the House bill) to improve its “score.” Realistically, the only time a CBO score matters is when it’s bad: Were this to come in at over $900 billion or be judged a deficit-buster over the long term, it would be rejected for failing to meet the White House’s baseline demands. But this one just makes the cut, so look for the obligatory back-pat in this weekend’s presidential message about it being a “fine starting point” or an “encouraging beginning” or whatever. Reid managed to come up with a bill that isn’t too expensive … for Barack Obama. Congratulations. [...]

]]> By: Adjoran http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2965710 Adjoran Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:01:09 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-2965710 The conventional wisdom has been that if ObamaCare gets put off until next year, it is effectively dead. Too much time for too many details to be exposed and too many financial calculations to be checked. Just like HillaryCare before it, it is the sort of bill which must be rammed through on a fast track before the public sees too many details. ` Personally, I see this bill as Harry Reid falling on his sword for Obama. Reid is up for reelection and has poll numbers not much better than Tom Thumb Daschle a year before he went down. This bill is the key test of Reid's career and power as Majority Leader, but he is damaged at home no matter how it comes out in DC. ` If it fails to pass, he can't get it done. His argument for reelection based on his superior influence in DC only calls attention to his failures. But if it does pass, by election time the details will have been revealed, and he will have to defend every egregious assault on our freedom and health care system. ` Obama told Reid to pick up his cross and follow, and Reid chose the false Messiah. It would be a tragic and touching tale if Reid were even a mediocre Senator, but he is a little man who began as a political bag man for the Vegas mob and unions (as if they were different), elevated by his peers only because none feared he would ever eclipse them in glory (none realizing what tiny and insignificant creatures they themselves are), who never "grew in office" into anything measurable. The conventional wisdom has been that if ObamaCare gets put off until next year, it is effectively dead. Too much time for too many details to be exposed and too many financial calculations to be checked. Just like HillaryCare before it, it is the sort of bill which must be rammed through on a fast track before the public sees too many details.
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Personally, I see this bill as Harry Reid falling on his sword for Obama. Reid is up for reelection and has poll numbers not much better than Tom Thumb Daschle a year before he went down. This bill is the key test of Reid’s career and power as Majority Leader, but he is damaged at home no matter how it comes out in DC.
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If it fails to pass, he can’t get it done. His argument for reelection based on his superior influence in DC only calls attention to his failures. But if it does pass, by election time the details will have been revealed, and he will have to defend every egregious assault on our freedom and health care system.
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Obama told Reid to pick up his cross and follow, and Reid chose the false Messiah. It would be a tragic and touching tale if Reid were even a mediocre Senator, but he is a little man who began as a political bag man for the Vegas mob and unions (as if they were different), elevated by his peers only because none feared he would ever eclipse them in glory (none realizing what tiny and insignificant creatures they themselves are), who never “grew in office” into anything measurable.

]]> By: veteranoutrage http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2965661 veteranoutrage Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:31:11 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-2965661 www.veteranoutrage.com BULLSHIT.. What POT is all of congress smoking!!! We the people said NO We the people are in charge not you disgusting democrats We the people are NOT going to obey.. Screw you Screw your numbers Screw your bullshit Screw your new laws.. No more.. we are done.. http://www.veteranoutrage.com

BULLSHIT..

What POT is all of congress smoking!!!
We the people said NO
We the people are in charge not you disgusting democrats
We the people are NOT going to obey..
Screw you
Screw your numbers
Screw your bullshit
Screw your new laws..

No more..
we are done..

]]> By: Two Thousand Seventy Four Pages : 101 Dead Armadillos http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2965613 Two Thousand Seventy Four Pages : 101 Dead Armadillos Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:15:38 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-2965613 [...] tomorrow. According to early reports, the bill will cost $849 billion over 10 years, and will reduce the deficit by $127 billion over that same 10 [...] [...] tomorrow. According to early reports, the bill will cost $849 billion over 10 years, and will reduce the deficit by $127 billion over that same 10 [...]

]]> By: Reid’s 2,074-Page Health Care Bill Raises Taxes, Cuts Medicare, and Pays for Abortions | America Watches Obama http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2965611 Reid’s 2,074-Page Health Care Bill Raises Taxes, Cuts Medicare, and Pays for Abortions | America Watches Obama Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:15:04 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-2965611 [...] CBO report says the bill would save $127 billion over 10 years–but as Allahpundit notes “$127 billion over 10 years sounds like a lot until you remember that $176 billion was [...] [...] CBO report says the bill would save $127 billion over 10 years–but as Allahpundit notes “$127 billion over 10 years sounds like a lot until you remember that $176 billion was [...]

]]> By: Steve Z http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2965410 Steve Z Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:55:32 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-2965410 <blockquote>Allah you missed the most important part!! the subsidies and consumer protections DO NOT BEGIN UNTIL 2013!!!!! But the fines penalties and taxes begin NOW ginaswo on November 18, 2009 at 7:01 PM</blockquote> This was mentioned on Greta's show on Fox tonight. The taxes apply over 10 years, the benefits over 7 years. $849 billion over 7 years is equivalent to $1.21 Trillion over 10 years, not counting the "doctor fix" of $200 Billion plus. Reality: this costs $1.41 Trillion plus, and $400 Billion in Medicare cuts to Seniors. Nobody other than Fox will tell you this. This bill is crazy like a Fox.

Allah you missed the most important part!!

the subsidies and consumer protections DO NOT BEGIN UNTIL 2013!!!!! But the fines penalties and taxes begin NOW

ginaswo on November 18, 2009 at 7:01 PM

This was mentioned on Greta’s show on Fox tonight. The taxes apply over 10 years, the benefits over 7 years. $849 billion over 7 years is equivalent to $1.21 Trillion over 10 years, not counting the “doctor fix” of $200 Billion plus. Reality: this costs $1.41 Trillion plus, and $400 Billion in Medicare cuts to Seniors.

Nobody other than Fox will tell you this. This bill is crazy like a Fox.

]]> By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Former Red Cross chief: Feds’ new mammography policy is “a shocking thing” http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2965102 Hot Air » Blog Archive » Former Red Cross chief: Feds’ new mammography policy is “a shocking thing” Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:22:37 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-2965102 [...] to limit costs? Everyone understands that the program will end up costing vastly more than the early projections indicate; there’s no reason to think that inertia towards growth wouldn’t also apply to [...] [...] to limit costs? Everyone understands that the program will end up costing vastly more than the early projections indicate; there’s no reason to think that inertia towards growth wouldn’t also apply to [...]

]]> By: Lew http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2965073 Lew Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:15:01 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-2965073 I couldn't care less whether this POS cash flows or not! Its very existence is an atrocity. When exactly did America become the kind of country where this conversation could even be taking place? Look folks, you can either be free or you can be taken care of - you can be a citizen or a ward - you can't be both! Arguing about the costs and revenues of this monstrosity is like debating the finances of Buchenwald while you're riding the train taking you there. The fact that it's financially doable or not doesn't make it any less of a death camp. I couldn’t care less whether this POS cash flows or not! Its very existence is an atrocity. When exactly did America become the kind of country where this conversation could even be taking place?
Look folks, you can either be free or you can be taken care of – you can be a citizen or a ward – you can’t be both!
Arguing about the costs and revenues of this monstrosity is like debating the finances of Buchenwald while you’re riding the train taking you there. The fact that it’s financially doable or not doesn’t make it any less of a death camp.

]]> By: Daily Linkfest « North Texas Tea Party http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2964889 Daily Linkfest « North Texas Tea Party Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:32:45 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-2964889 [...] ReaidCare: plays same shell game to get favorable CBO numbers [...] [...] ReaidCare: plays same shell game to get favorable CBO numbers [...]

]]> By: Highlar http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2964735 Highlar Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:56:26 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-2964735 One thing which really gets me is this part of the article: <blockquote>who quoted a preliminary estimate of the legislation by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office</blockquote> This is the same thing that happened with the last "scoring" of the non-existent Senate bill, if I am remembering correctly. The preliminary score was positive, but the ACTUAL score at the end, once it was all fully analyzed, was NOT. You can't go by an initial prelim estimate on something like this. You need to wait until the full-blown results of the whole bill have a chance to be analyzed before passing judgment. One thing which really gets me is this part of the article:

who quoted a preliminary estimate of the legislation by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office

This is the same thing that happened with the last “scoring” of the non-existent Senate bill, if I am remembering correctly. The preliminary score was positive, but the ACTUAL score at the end, once it was all fully analyzed, was NOT. You can’t go by an initial prelim estimate on something like this. You need to wait until the full-blown results of the whole bill have a chance to be analyzed before passing judgment.

]]> By: petunia http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2964647 petunia Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:31:07 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-2964647 <blockquote>We share him. And, you are correct. a capella on November 18, 2009 at 7:28 PM</blockquote> Now imagine he was your only choice for President! That's what the Republican Party did to me last year! McCain's stand on everything was totally backward... except the war.... and then I'm supposed to be happy he's the nominee? That is just asking too much!

We share him. And, you are correct.

a capella on November 18, 2009 at 7:28 PM

Now imagine he was your only choice for President! That’s what the Republican Party did to me last year! McCain’s stand on everything was totally backward… except the war…. and then I’m supposed to be happy he’s the nominee? That is just asking too much!

]]> By: Wethal http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2964634 Wethal Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:28:34 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-2964634 According to AOSHQ, the bill is over <strong>2000 pages long</strong>. And the senators have 72 hours (assuming they don't sleep) to read it. But supposedly Coburn will refuse unanimous consent to waive reading of the bill and insist on it being read. According to AOSHQ, the bill is over 2000 pages long. And the senators have 72 hours (assuming they don’t sleep) to read it.

But supposedly Coburn will refuse unanimous consent to waive reading of the bill and insist on it being read.

]]> By: petunia http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2964630 petunia Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:27:59 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-2964630 Honestly the Congress has figured out the system the CBO uses and tailors the bill to it. It is more fakery. And anyone who falls for it deserves to be first in line to the death panel. Honestly the Congress has figured out the system the CBO uses and tailors the bill to it.

It is more fakery.

And anyone who falls for it deserves to be first in line to the death panel.

]]> By: thmcbb http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/comment-page-1/#comment-2964593 thmcbb Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:13:09 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=72971#comment-2964593 Reid also said he believes in the Easter Bunnie and the tooth fairy. Reid also said he believes in the Easter Bunnie and the tooth fairy.

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