Obama stonewalling Congress on Hasan?
posted at 8:48 am on November 17, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Congress wants to determine what failures allowed Army Major Nidal Hasan to kill 14 people and wound dozens of others in a premeditated shooting spree at Fort Hood. The Obama administration has refused to cooperate into a probe to find those failures. Ben Pershing at the Washington Post wrote last night that the White House refuses to provide witnesses to Congress for hearings into the counterterrorism failure:
The first public congressional hearing on the Fort Hood attack will not include testimony from any current federal law enforcement, military or intelligence officials because the Obama administration “declined to provide any” such witnesses, according to a Senate committee source.
The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee has released the witness list for its hearing “The Fort Hood Attack: A Preliminary Assessment,” scheduled for Thursday at 10 a.m. ET. The list includes four experts on terrorism and intelligence issues: retired Gen. Jack Keane, the former U.S. Army vice chief of staff; Brian Jenkins, a senior advisor at the Rand Corp.; Mitchell Silber, the director of analysis for the New York City Police Department’s Intelligence Division; and Juan Zarate, a senior advisor for the Transnational Threats Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
But the list does not include anyone actively involved in investigating the Fort Hood attack, or anyone who might have been responsible for decisions made by various government agencies before the attack about whether to investigate the shooting suspect, Nidal Hasan. The Senate committee source said HSGAC Chairman Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) had hoped to have witnesses from the FBI and the U.S. Army, but was rebuffed in his requests.
Barack Obama repeatedly promised to make his administration the most open and transparent in history. Accountability to Congress goes far beyond “hope and change” or any other campaign sloganeering. It’s required by the Constitution, and Congress has the right to demand answers from the FBI and the Army as part of their oversight of both.
Furthermore, Congress has no interest in “solving” the murder case. The military has the shooter. Congress has the duty to see why Hasan wasn’t identified as a risk before he picked up a gun and started killing soldiers. Why didn’t critical information get shared on Hasan, especially his correspondence with Anwar al-Aulaqi, a man suspected of an operational role in the 9/11 attacks by the Congressional Commission that studied them, as well as a known al-Qaeda recruiter and sympathizer? Are there any other soldiers communicating with Hasan or other AQ figures that the FBI and the Joint Terrorism Task Force has chalked up to “research”?
If nothing else, Congress could have asked the Army why they intended to deploy a psychiatrist who repeatedly attempted to violate patient confidentiality in order to press war-crimes charges against the soldiers he was treating:
Major Nidal Malik Hasan’s military superiors repeatedly ignored or rebuffed his efforts to open criminal prosecutions of soldiers he claimed had confessed to “war crimes” during psychiatric counseling, according to investigative reports circulated among federal law enforcement officials. …
Investigators believe Hasan’s frustration over the failure of the Army to pursue what he regarded as criminal acts by U.S. soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan may have helped to trigger the shootings.
“The Army may not want to admit it, and you may not hear much about it, but it was very big for him,” said one of the federal investigators on the task force collecting evidence of the crime.
His last effort to get the attention of military investigators came on Nov. 2, three days before his alleged shooting spree, according to the reports.
Hasan made a number of attempts to inform on his patients to prosecutors, in at least one case signing e-mails “Praise be to Allah.” And no one in the Army thought this was a little weird? Does the Army routinely send combat soldiers to psychiatrists who violate their trust and the doctor-patient privilege? And even knowing all of this, the Army was about to send Hasan to a combat zone to treat even more combat soldiers.
That’s the kind of thing Congress needs to know, and the Army needs to explain. Unfortunately, Obama wants to stall those questions and keep from providing the answers.
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right2bright on November 17, 2009 at 9:46 AM
No matter what Obama’s resaons, there is a sober reality demonstrated by the Fort Hood shootings and if it’s not faced up to, it will happen again. Obama seems unable to separate his personal needs and approaches to issues from the good of the country as a whole. As a President, he is shaping up as a failure largely because of this I think. Do you think these bad decisions come from him or from others? I wonder more and more.
jeanie on November 17, 2009 at 9:47 AM
Libyan Gadaffi owns Obama like a Muslim father owns his issue. He helped buying Obama’s election.
When has Obama disavowed being Gadaffi’s “son”?
maverick muse on November 17, 2009 at 9:49 AM
This is another reason why the GOP should try to take back the House.
There are so many committee investigations that need to be done.
Holder on KSM and dropping the charges on the Philly black radicals at the polls.
Geithner on the bankruptcies and bailouts.
Sure, the MSM might not cover them adequately, but at least people would begin to know that this White House is covering up some serious matters.
Wethal on November 17, 2009 at 9:50 AM
Just a thought: Maybe we really don’t want to know the answer why the Executive branch is stonewalling.
Of course, Occams Razor says the most likely reason is that the answer is highly critical of, if not devastating to, the civilians who run the military.
BobMbx on November 17, 2009 at 9:52 AM
Wait just a darn minute! I am not too clear on how this works but he can’t get away with that can he? This country is getting fed-up with his bullying!.. Please someone enlighten me as to how we can go over his head.Will Congress have to take a stand on this?
ohiobabe on November 17, 2009 at 9:52 AM
Disgraceful.
Rosmerta on November 17, 2009 at 9:53 AM
L’état, c’est moi.
(“I am the state.” Louis XIV.)
Wethal on November 17, 2009 at 9:53 AM
Really, Ed? Doctor-patient privilege in the Military? Did you check those facts at all? Or are you just assuming that civilian and military rules are always all the same?
HINT: Check US v. Rodriguez…..
ReaganRoxx on November 17, 2009 at 9:56 AM
About 18 months ago, I remember watching Chris Matthews and Mike Barnacle discussing Obama in the Dem primaries.
Matthews pointed out to Barnacle a comment that an old Boston pol offered in evaluating any political newcomer. Two questions: Is he okay? Is he one of us?
My responses: Obama has never been okay. And he increasingly shows that he’s not one of us. What correct-thinking American does not want to get to the bottom of Fort Hood immediately?
BuckeyeSam on November 17, 2009 at 9:56 AM
Does anyone know what the following is about, it says it is a think tank “Homeland Security Policy Institute”, someone posted a link here last week.
Under “Homeland Security Policy Task Force” there is a “NIDAL HASAN, UNIFORMED SERVICES,UNIVERSITY SVHOOL OF MEDICINE” Page 29.
If rhis is a credible website, there are a lot of prominent people listed, then maybe this is why he doesn’t want an investigation????
concernedsenior on November 17, 2009 at 9:56 AM
Something is definitely not right here. You’re the president and 14 of your military were gunned down by a man screaming allahu akbar and come to find out there were all these signs pointing to him being a jihadi on American soil and you don’t want to take immediate and thorough action to find out how this could happen? WTF?
scalleywag on November 17, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Hmmmm not that I’m a conspiracy theorist or anything but if you have nothing to hide – why are you stonewalling Barry?
Me thinks there is a memo out there ordering people to back off this guy because of being a Muslim and Barry knows it.
gophergirl on November 17, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Well I be darned, look what you uncovered.
Here
Looks like he is the one and same…on Obama’s transition team.
right2bright on November 17, 2009 at 9:46 AM
right2bright: Smoking gun!! No wonder Team Obama is in
lock-down mode concerning Hasan!!:)
canopfor on November 17, 2009 at 9:58 AM
I’m going to cry. I am standing here beside my-sell-f. That was the most ludicrous comment this week. Excellent. Bravo. MaiDee FTW!!!
Blacksmith8 on November 17, 2009 at 9:58 AM
Realize that PC contracted with terrorism, provided terrorists with all training and a wonderful professional life at the complete expense of the American taxpaying Citizenry.
PC also elected the most unqualified president ever, and to date enables that same Obama to destroy the US Constitution.
The Centrist position recognizes this reality.
Hasan and Obama are siblings of the same ideological upbringing.
A Centrist would NOT condone terrorism, the defining line that separates loyalties.
A Centrist would NEVER revise the definition of terrorism in order to “better understand”.
A Centrist would NEVER defend or protect Hasan or any terrorist from facing a full military tribunal “with all the bells and whistles” (Sen.Obama).
Mr. President, YOU LIE!
maverick muse on November 17, 2009 at 9:59 AM
Our radical liberal president and his followers deeply believe that if we all “love one another” we will see each other as good, decent human beings desiring to live together around the campfire singing Kumbaya. Nidal Hasan, KSM and others cannot destroy that dream no matter how hard they try or how many Americans they kill. Liberal idealogy will prevail even if from the grave. God help our country because our government will not.
Herb on November 17, 2009 at 10:01 AM
BuckeyeSam on November 17, 2009 at 9:56 AM
The ol’ “who sent you?” question of a volunteer. “We don’t want no one who no one sent us.”
maverick muse on November 17, 2009 at 10:02 AM
Mr. President sets himself up for conspiracy theories by not doing the right thing. People keep saying he’s smart…if he’s so smart then how could he think this is the right thing to do?
scalleywag on November 17, 2009 at 10:03 AM
Because he doesn’t care scalleywag. He has already proven that he can get away with close to anything. And any problem just commits suicide/turns up dead.
He defines teflon.
ORconservative on November 17, 2009 at 10:06 AM
Hasan is looking for patients
http://www.healthgrades.com/directory_search/physician/profiles/dr-md-reports/Dr-Nidal-Hasan-MD-DB708AB4.cfm
CWforFreedom on November 17, 2009 at 10:07 AM
Whenever you find yourself wondering WHY would Obooboo do something or WHAT L’il Barry Dunham will do, try to explain to yourself what the absolute worst position for you and your country could be. Look up and there you’ll find Akbar the ‘Won’.
I’ve been using this model since July 2008. It has not failed even once. So, I may be smug, but I’m not happy.
Blacksmith8 on November 17, 2009 at 10:08 AM
Blacksmith8 on November 17, 2009 at 9:58 AM
MaiDee shot herself in the foot with the stuck on stupid “actually” reference.
Passing the buck enables the next person to do likewise.
Bush and Cheney should have processed the trials of the 9/11 terrorists detained at Guantanamo as THAT military tribunal setting was the only proper way of carrying out their Constitutional duties that they had the ability and opportunity to complete while in office.
My criticism is that Bush and Congress would conduct wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and FAIL TO PROSECUTE THE GUILTY AL QAEDA TERRORISTS captured and held “indefinitely” until the next potus released them.
maverick muse on November 17, 2009 at 10:09 AM
100% correct
maverick muse on November 17, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Actually someone asked Rove why they didn’t prosecute and Rove’s answer was the far left lawyers kept blocking it.
I really would like to know if that is something that can be confirmed.
ORconservative on November 17, 2009 at 10:13 AM
You’re far too generous.
Like the black thug in LA who made the phrase a joke, Black Liberation Theology disciple Obama only preaches “Can’t we all just get along?” to manipulate people, not because he believes in “love and kindness”.
I Me Mine
maverick muse on November 17, 2009 at 10:16 AM
Yea, Mr. President also swore to keep Americans safe from terrorist attacks so by calling this something else, I guess in his mind he’s fulfilled his promise. Well guess what, I think this WAS a terrorist attack and as U.S. citizens I think we should DEMAND that there be an investigation ASAP.
scalleywag on November 17, 2009 at 10:17 AM
The best case for the criminal cabal is that they are conducting a cover-up because the trail leads directly to the White House and the policies put in place since Jan 21, 2009.
But why is nobody asking how pseudo-soldier with no weapons training was able to kill and wound over 40 grown men and women, with a handgun, in a room filled with combat veterens whose every instinct tells them to close with an enemy and protect their comrades at all costs?
And he was eventually taken down by a civilian policewoman?
It strains credulity. We are to believe that hundreds of combat veterans were cowering in corners until a spunky gal showed up.
The initial reports had 3 shooters, but that noise disappeared within hours.
The attack was planned and coordinated by multiple people who were trained assassins.
notagool on November 17, 2009 at 10:24 AM
Obama won’t send any witnesses to Congress for this shooting because this happened on his watch. Wait until KSM’s trial begins and Obama obliges them with every witness requested.
As ReaganRoxx said, the doctor-patient privileges are different in the military. Physician-patient privacy applies to the doctor, but not to the doctor as a military officer. If there is a conflict, the latter trumps the former.
conservative pilgrim on November 17, 2009 at 10:25 AM
May the fruits of Classical Liberal Enlightenment that our Founding Fathers produced prevail even if from the grave/earth. Idea determines form.
May the lives and minds of all who believe in our Founding Principles manage to preserve/conserve that which is truly our unalienable right in life.
LONG LIVE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE UNDER THE SUPREME LAW OF THE US CONSTITUTION.
maverick muse on November 17, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Michelle Malkin has some other red flags with Hasan that the powers that be overlooked and turned a blind eye to.
conservative pilgrim on November 17, 2009 at 10:27 AM
The words that helped start a revolution! Of course that was then and this is now. Isn’t it???
jeanie on November 17, 2009 at 10:27 AM
It is kind of mind boggling. His silence on Iran. His failure to mention the fallen troops until after he’d given a shout out to others…it just seems like he gets things backwards most of the time. Flying out of DC when there were thousands of people in DC trying to make their voices heard. Calling out FOX news and playing favorites with the media. I don’t know if it’s intention or if he really isn’t very smart. I know a lot of people who can speak eloquently and appear to be very knowlegeable and “cool”, but they really aren’t very intelligent when it comes to doing the right thing.
scalleywag on November 17, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Truth is stranger than fiction…I checked out the healthgrades webpage and found that not only is DR. Hasan ready for new patients “HealthGrades could not detect any disciplinary actions for Dr. Nidal M. Hasan, MD as of 11/17/2009.”… so I am feeling a little like a jihadist and going to make that phone call for an appointment..
train on November 17, 2009 at 10:27 AM
REVISIONISM
By current law, this was terrorism.
Only be revisions can anyone argue otherwise.
Hold the line or forfeit forever.
Impeach Obama!
maverick muse on November 17, 2009 at 10:29 AM
Just put yourself in the place of some returning or troubled soldier who was forced to be a patient of Hasan’s. Talk about a catch 22–especially if these guys knew about him. They probably did as news like this tends to travel fast. What is the army doing to these guys?
jeanie on November 17, 2009 at 10:32 AM
“Far Left lawyers” have no standing within the Military to prevent or postpone the processing of a full fledged tribunal.
The Commander in Chief had the power and authority to have the captured terrorists processed through a military tribunal.
Bush blinked, waiting to exhale as it were. The buck stops in the Oval Office where it waited “indefinitely” for Bush’s administration to expire.
By failing to prosecute theh 9/11 terrorists, Bush also failed to set precedent for subsequent presidents to follow.
maverick muse on November 17, 2009 at 10:36 AM
Did you notice with Obama:
1 Anything to do with the war on terror-more troops to Afghanistan, speedy trial for KSM, investigation of Ft. Hood terrorist Hasan, it’s stall, stonewall and delay.
2 Anything to do with the socialization of America–Cap & trade, stimulus plans, health care–it’s rush it through without even reading it.
Which side is this guy on, anyway?
MaiDee on November 17, 2009 at 10:36 AM
The Bush Doctrine: Defend with a good offense but fail to prosecute.
maverick muse on November 17, 2009 at 10:37 AM
The Obama Doctrine: Free, Free, Free At Last–Jihadists
maverick muse on November 17, 2009 at 10:38 AM
Here we go…his defense will be that he was driven crazy by the “racist Army” that was covering up war crimes even worse than Abu Ghraib.
PattyJ on November 17, 2009 at 10:42 AM
Obama stalling? No, that can’t be true! Why look at how speedily he made decisions about Afghanistan!
GarandFan on November 17, 2009 at 10:43 AM
Well, I don’t know about our smart leader, but what part of a guy who calls himself a soldier of allah screaming allahu akbar while trying to kill/maim as many people as he can doesn’t spell act of jihad? How dare him try to hold Congress back from finding the truth. It’s reprehensible. It’s insulting to the American people. It’s almost criminal.
scalleywag on November 17, 2009 at 10:46 AM
Awful , as usual.
the_nile on November 17, 2009 at 10:49 AM
This reaction SHOULD have people SHOVING back to ask hard questions. This is the behavior of a man who knows he’s going to be busted hard for what he and his folks did. Obama’s fear that people will “jump to conclusions” has nothing to do with his outright hostility to investigation.
Obama has either been told someone close to him was warned of Hasan’s behavior before the shooting or something near to this. There is no other reason for him to be so adamant about Congress not investigating this massacre.
Had Bush behaved this way following ANYTHING Congress and the press would be killing themselves to get at the “real” information.
Think I’m nuts? Ask yourself WHY this president is so determined to stop this investigation. A case might be made for his fear for the poor benighted muslims, but, to be honest, I don’t buy it. This man doesn’t put himself out this hard for anything but personal reasons.
Mad Mad Monica on November 17, 2009 at 10:49 AM
And furthermore, it’s especially insulting to our troops. Not just the comrades of the fallen troops, but to all of our men and women in uniform.
scalleywag on November 17, 2009 at 10:49 AM
WOW!!!
I’m not sure what I said when I asked my question earlier about”Homeland Security Policy Institute” but right after I posted it my computer REALLY FROZE, couldn’t log out couldn’t move, I had to unplug my computer to get off, took me this long to get back in.
DOES THIS MEAN I AM ON THE WH TERROR WATCH LIST???? :):)
concernedsenior on November 17, 2009 at 10:50 AM
Why would Barry cooperate if it might thwart other jihadis hiding in uniform?
Christien on November 17, 2009 at 10:51 AM
It still amazes me that the signs of suicide so blatantly apparent in Maj. Hasan went unnoticed by his peers. The giving away of posessions, telling people “You’ll not see me again” emptying out of safety deposit boxes. Admittedly, suicide by cop is plainly rare in soldiers. The signs of suicide were evident.
I hope the Army uses this, at the very least, as an opportunity to continue to emphasize suicide awareness in soldiers at all ranks. Suicide is not a junior enlisted problem, or an NCO problem, or an officer problem. It needs to continue to be addressed.
Spc Steve on November 17, 2009 at 10:53 AM
If Dr. Hasan was on Obama’s transition team, and it looks like he was, this will be a MAJOR NEWS STORY. Someone should tip off Drudge.
Lothar on November 17, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Nidal Hasan, was Homeland Security advisor on Obama transition team.
Now we have a little insight into why Obama said to not jump to conclusions about Nidal Hasan.
This man who killed and wounded the people at Fort Hood , Texas was an advisor to Obama’s Homeland Security team.
Look on page 29 of the Homeland Security Institute link below.
http://www.gwumc.edu/hspi/old/PTTF_ProceedingsReport_05.19.09.PDF
Keemo on November 17, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Three years ago dems ran on no oversight…
Emanuel, Schumer Urge Rubber Stamp Republican Congress to Fulfill Its Oversight Duties
freedomplow on November 17, 2009 at 11:08 AM
They’re too busy with choir practice — making sure they all sing the same tune.
Socratease on November 17, 2009 at 11:09 AM
Wasn’t that in process when ObaMao cancelled it as one of his first items of business shortly after the inauguration?
onlineanalyst on November 17, 2009 at 11:09 AM
I don’t think that’s entirely true. Hasan was in the Army for a lot longer than that, and his advancement to his current position despite his Islamist leanings happened mostly before Obama’s election. Political correctness has been well-entrenched in government bureaucracy for some time, just look at the TSA searching grandmothers for terrorist weapons at airports. I’m sure this administration hasn’t done anything to reverse it, but they didn’t start it.
Socratease on November 17, 2009 at 11:14 AM
Ah, but Hasan did have weapons training, notagool. That request of Hasan’s for several classes (which he took) did raise a few eyebrows, but apparently nothing further was done about the issue.
onlineanalyst on November 17, 2009 at 11:15 AM
Correct me if my timeline is wrong, but didn’t the pro bono lawyers put a wrench in the prosecutions of the Gitmo detainees? Wasn’t this matter finally resolved back in 2006, when new military tribunal protocol was written?
There were many attempts by protectors of the jihadists and detainees at Gitmo that kept putting a kibbosh into a prompt resolution.
onlineanalyst on November 17, 2009 at 11:28 AM
Somewhere along the line that gutless congress needs to stand up and be counted.
rplat on November 17, 2009 at 11:35 AM
The faster this case gets out of the public the better for Obama. His religion and his effectiveness as CIC are there for all to view and it ain’t pretty.
jukin on November 17, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Our current armies I believe would not take up arms against our citizens, but the future armies their building will.
First they must get those that won’t out.
lilium on November 17, 2009 at 11:53 AM
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HI NOTAGOOL–A few comments on your post about the good Major and his shooting skills. He served as an enlisted man and went through Basic Training. And he took annual or semi-annual “refresher” shooting and had to get a passing score. And he signed up for more training–pretty normal for a military man in the Army or Marine Corps.
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Google his pistol–an HK 57 (22 caliber) semi-automatic pistol. Holds 20 shots in the magazine–comes with 3 magazines–60 shots total. A light low recoil super high velocity bullet–round is designed for use in a submachine gun. Each shot probably went right through the first victim and hit a few more behind him. A very unusual weapon.
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As a U.S. Army basic trainee long ago the sergeant taught us to think ahead in combat situations. Find cover and concealment, pick the most dangerous target first, move around, etc. The Jihadi Major was a trained shooter. And ONLY MP’s and police are armed on a military post–everyone else is guaranteed to be unarmed–except when on guard duty or on the shooting ranges.
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John Bibb
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rocketman on November 17, 2009 at 12:02 PM
You reference AG Holder’s law firm?
I recall the popular argument (not legally founded though legally promoted by Democrats) at that time regarded the authority of the POTUS to hold captured terrorists indefinitely, not whether or not they could be given a military tribunal.
Regardless of that argument, litigations instigated from outside of the military hardly hold precedence within the military that functions according to the tradition ofo military law. Since when does a member of Congress have the Constitutional authority to supersede the authority of the Commander in Chief within the Military to prevent the tribunal trial of a captured enemy guilty of acts of war on American soil against American citizens? Never.
What litigating parameters unsubstantiated by law and without precedent to date that the Commander in Chief CHOSE to recognize was a matter of convenience trumped as necessity. Politics, not authority. PC. Bush’s compassionate conservatism proved to be the lambs wool that camouflaged the promotion of liberal progressive agenda permeating the Military.
As Bush failed to order the military tribunals to proceed during his presidency, he set precedence for subsequent presidents to abstain from utilizing the POTUS Constitutional authority within the Military Tribunal judicial system.
Though enabled by decades of ignorant tolerance for radical Muslims particularly empowered by Carter forward, the 9/11 terrorism occurred under Bush’s watch. Fighting a war to defeat terrorists whom you refuse to try, convict and execute is a never-ending war of attrition against the USA, ironically self-destructive in the exercise of self-defense.
Yes, I know that Bush’s popularity was impeded by his political opposition that mounted their cumulative Democrat ass. And I know that Bush did his best to see through the War in Iraq. But if those guilty of starting the war are “indefinitely” jailed until the next potus is elected, the logic for war implodes into insane convolution: catch and release them while they kill us indiscriminately.
I argue that the Commander in Chief can indeed order a military tribunal to take place under his Constitutional Authority, most particularly during his own presidency, especially while the rules are not yet revised.
Wait? For what? For Obama to release the terrorists without prejudice.
maverick muse on November 17, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Where are the trolls to defend their guy? Trolls? Trolls? Anyone?
JAM on November 17, 2009 at 12:10 PM
This is an outright lie. From the link that you provided yesterday:
Why must you be so blatantly dishonest? I mean, if you’re going to lie to us, at least have the common sense not to link to articles that show that you’re lying.
orange on November 17, 2009 at 12:16 PM
By dragging the terrorists into the NY civil courts, Obama will provide the ground for his own impeachment. And Obama’s impeachment will occur long before the terrorists are given any civil court verdict.
Faith without works is dead. So press for the Military Tribunal, and demand that at the very least, the trials NOT take place in New York!
Impeach Corruption
maverick muse on November 17, 2009 at 12:18 PM
I suppose it was a violation of patient confidentiality, but it’s questionable whether this was an inappropriate violation.
Granted, given what Hasan ended up doing and the other things we know about him, I think it’s likely that this was an inappropriate violation. I just don’t want anyone to jump to conclusions (not that anyone here would ever do that…)
orange on November 17, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Orange failed to use your calculator to count days, so “this is an outright lie” applies to orange. “Yesterday” was Nov.16, 2009.
maverick muse on November 17, 2009 at 12:28 PM
Would that be your lead Muslim FBI investigators? Makes sense. Hasan went nuts over Americas unwillingness to charge anyone who shot a Muslim as a war criminal. Poor poor haunted Muslim….only seeking justice…..for Islam. Have the FBI team located any halal coffee spots yet?
BL@KBIRD on November 17, 2009 at 12:47 PM
Sorry. I saw it yesterday.
Now do you intend to address my point, or are you more interested in minor semantics?
orange on November 17, 2009 at 1:14 PM
The road is long
With many a winding turn
That leads us to Mohammad knows where
Allah knows when
But Islam is strong
Strong enough to help me carry him
Nidal ain’t heavy, he’s my Islamic brother
So on we go
Islam’s welfare is of my main concern
No burden is it to bear
We’ll get there
For I know
I’m for Islam and Islam is for me
- Barack al Obama
MB4 on November 17, 2009 at 1:25 PM
The fish rots from the head down.
What happened at Fort Hood was a tragedy, but I believe it would be an even greater tragedy if our diversity becomes a casualty here.
- General George Casey, Army Chief of Staff
MB4 on November 17, 2009 at 1:35 PM
The new urban myth going around is that there were legal reasons preventing the Bush administration trying the 9/11 terrorists in a military tribunal.
Not according to the record.
Not according to Mukasey via his Federalist Society speech, and The Fred Thompson interview given just now.
Not according to Sen. Obama who lectured specifically FOR the certainty of terrorists to be prosecuted in military tribunals with all the bells and whistles from the Senate Floor.
There are NO grounds for taking military terrorists to trial through the civilian courts.
That is why Obama is doing it. Jihadi Terrorists, free at last via Obama’s truncated dissolution of LAW.
maverick muse on November 17, 2009 at 2:11 PM
A greater tragedy if our UNITY becomes a casualty!
maverick muse on November 17, 2009 at 2:12 PM
Just had to fix it up a little.
The sequence of events of the lying, deception, and criminal activity are becoming more grave with every passing day; At this rate, the Taliban and/or Al Qaeda will just threaten our country with a sizable terrorist attack, and Obambi will capitulate and surrender. This clown knows no limits when it comes to incompetence.
Cybergeezer on November 17, 2009 at 2:27 PM
And now the Obama Administration is stating that the National Security Council will be the sole provider of briefings to Congress. One source for information. One “story.” No dissent.
If this doesn’t signal blood in the water to those formerly known as news reporters, I don’t know what would.
If Congress doesn’t issue subpoenas to Army and Pentagon officials (and Hasan’s former superiors, fellow doctors, and patients) they are derelict in their duties. Of course, I hold out no hope in them doing the right thing.
Enigma on November 17, 2009 at 2:33 PM
orange 1:14
Perhaps we agree in opinion. But for me, your presentation seemed confused, not that you don’t know what you meant, but the reader may not follow your thought. I’ve read the links. Where is the substantiation therein for your points of differentiation from Ed Morrissey’s posts?
The point that I responded to from your comment dealt with accusing Ed Morrissey of knowingly writing a bold faced lie to promote it.
Semantics? Hardly.
I have been a thorn in Ed’s side when he exposes his progressive biases to enable the further PC stage in America, or for being an agist along with Allahpundit preferring RINOs that include Mitt Romney as a potus candidate over Fred Thompson (they got their youthful potus: Obama), or for exposing his sinister character flaw towards men injured and paralyzed during a football practice when a destructive wind storm hit town. And when I attack Ed Morrissey’s errors, I argue, but with a completion of what I’m thinking and my basis for thought so as to state my case, not simply type a judgment.
So if you omitted something, finish typing what you were thinking.
Otherwise, I don’t follow.
maverick muse on November 17, 2009 at 2:40 PM
Let us imagine the reaction to all this if Bush were president.
Terrye on November 17, 2009 at 2:45 PM
Cybergeezer on November 17, 2009 at 2:27 PM
We only see the tip of the iceberg.
Regardless of Obama’s sinking popularity, as yet he still holds the keys of authority.
He looked like he dropped them while meeting Japanese royalty. He doesn’t wear contacts, does he? Losing either at the moment would have made a good come back for exposing his backside, begging for punishment.
The Obama Doctrine: Masochism abroad; Sadism at home.
maverick muse on November 17, 2009 at 2:47 PM
THAT, “elections have consequences” and “America got what it deserved” make me puke.
maverick muse on November 17, 2009 at 2:49 PM
We already are victims of Pres. Obama’s abuse of authority, referenced as authoritarian abuse of powers.
Obama’s Administration via the DHS has announced that his perversion of our judicial system targets all conservative Americans and veterans to be taken down first, denying law abiding citizens our unalienable rights, our Constitutional Rights, and any legitimate due process.
Pres. George W. Bush also ordered our armed forces to take on the rolls hampering a clear goal in war, confounding a clear victory, to be the laundry list of character roles abroad that Obama re-iterated himself in his official opening address to his/our troops in Afghanistan. They transformed our warriors into multitasking teachers, diplomats, mayors, friends, builders of nations WHILE ENGAGED IN WARFARE. Even FDR/Truman waited until AFTER WWII ended to decide to rebuild W. Germany and Japan, etc. GWB legacy in Iraq may yet become the nightmare that Michael Savage warns to beware, the uniting of the religious/political powers that Iraq and Iran do share in common. Iran’s Theocracy is set on it; as are those of its predominant Muslim sect within Iraq. America paid in blood, lives and treasure for today’s corrupt officials in Iraq to eat cake.
Do not fail to follow the armed forces that Obama funds with our taxes and foreign investors, building beyond what America has already; i.e., not simply the military and the law enforcement, both under the ultimate direction of this Chief Executive and Commander in Chief POTUS. Obama is no respecter of Constitutional Law or states rights. Democrats scream foul that private militias were contracted to police in war-torn foreign regions wherein our military were fighting warfare. But Obama’s forces are placing private FOREIGN armies to “police” flyover America’s heartland. Furthermore, as UN Security Council Chairman, Obama would further permeate the corruption between the US Military, NATO, and the UN.
maverick muse on November 17, 2009 at 3:16 PM
My thoughts exactly! Something is fishy and they are definitely trying to hide it and protect someone. Like you say, why else wouldn’t you want to find out how this happened? Can they continue to deny Congress access to the people they need to question?
silvernana on November 17, 2009 at 5:02 PM
The answers all here are looking for are available for anyone who is really interested – and they come from “the one’s” own lips.
Watch the attached video up to the 5:20 mark (for the pertinent information – the rest is junk).
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28
Now – does that clear up any doubts?
Oopsdaisy on November 17, 2009 at 5:23 PM
Well it’s not like this is a pattern or anything.
/sarc
Cylor on November 17, 2009 at 5:43 PM
Morrissey claims that Obama won’t investigate the intelligence failures. Yet in his own link, Obama is quoted saying the exact opposite.
orange on November 17, 2009 at 6:07 PM
Even the dems in the senate normally guard their authority. It is about time they started pushing back (Hard’).
duff65 on November 17, 2009 at 6:15 PM
maverickmuse: I respect your posts as a rule, but Andy McCarthy has a response in his column at NRO today, called “Justice Delayed”. See what you think.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NjJjYTIxNGFlZjRiNzFmYzFiM2ZhMGI4NTRmMWNhMzg=
onlineanalyst on November 17, 2009 at 6:26 PM
Yes and even worse he’s unfit for command. The WORSE leader in modern World History.
Watching_Cloward-Piven on November 17, 2009 at 7:01 PM
Agreed; But there is supposed to be “separation of powers”. It doesn’t appear that there is at this time;
This P.O.S. is pushing the limits of the Constitution; And the thing I find unacceptable is, there’s no fail-safe.
Cybergeezer on November 17, 2009 at 7:21 PM
P.S.
And Obama knows it.
Cybergeezer on November 17, 2009 at 7:25 PM
ANOTHER classic performance of “Amateur Hour” from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue…
SIGH………………
Khun Joe on November 17, 2009 at 7:59 PM
If you want to understand this and Obama’s stonewalling on this and Afghanistan and despert need for approval of Islamic powers, consider this; His native and first religion was Islam. He was raised with its teachings, he studied it in school, he knows the Koran better than the bible, he has never denounced his Islamic faith. He once state that the most beautiful sound in the world. He did attend a church that preached a radical black theology based on Christian doctrine, but one he could be comfortable with in because of it numerous and strong ties to Islamic groups. Most likely he belonged to the church because his wife did and for political posturing. He has not found a christain church in Washington. He has not visted a major christian church or cathedral, but took time to visit one of the oldest Muslim Mosque, at which he demonstrated that although he lacked knowledge of protocal all across Europe, he understood the protocal for entering the mosque. He bowed to the Saudi King, but the king is also the keeper of the two most holy mosques and notice that it was with bent knee. He sat by watched then supported the Islamic power in Iran. He has made two speeches to the Islamic world to try and get them to accept him as a friend rather than foe. His speech in Egypt showed he understood how to speak to a muslim crowd complete with the required references and protocals. He promised to pursue the war in Afghanistan using the same surge that worked in Iraq which resulted in our being able to hand over the war to the Iraq government. He did not understand that a surge would not work in Afghanistan. Further interferring with his plans is the government not being able to organize enough to accept the military reponsibilty. He is struggling now to find a way to get out of Afghanistan and a war against fellow muslims. The current plan seems to be to force the Afghanistan government to get it together by telling them we are leaving in the near future. That will cost more lives and hurt him politically for what that matters, but it will get him out of a war with muslims. Hasan’s jihadi is a problem for Obama. As noted, Hasan was an advisor that said what Obama wanted to hear; to stop describing Muslim terroist as terroist and refer to them as something less threatning that did not connect them to Islam or Jihadism. Now that it has happen, he is protecting his own image in the Muslim world and probably quiet policy changes that supported his goals. Perhaps he agrees with the muslim beliefs of Hasan. As for the civilian trials of the terroist, watch them walk as crucial eveidence is withheld that is needed to convict them or something like deportion after a conviction. Gimo’s biggest problem for Obama has been that it was a prison for Muslims. If he makes a second term look for concessions to Muslims on Shira law along the lines that he campaigned with his cousin Kenya for. The other side of his plate that he was mentored to achieve, is for socialism which he seems to want to pattern on Chavez socialism and Marxist communisum. God save our country is my prayer, but it seems those in power are hell bent on his destroying it.
Franklyn on November 17, 2009 at 8:27 PM
http://www.veteranoutrage.com
When ever i hear any liberal talk about
openess, fairness, or transparency
I know to run for the hills
duck into my foxhole
and prepare for an onslaught of lies
distortions and outright treason..
and here we go again..
Now obama and the democraps
who all screamed about 9/11 and the truth commission report
or the so called rush to judgement..
now all of a sudden are covering up for an islamic jihadist traitor terrorist,,
Tell me it isnt so..
veteranoutrage on November 17, 2009 at 9:30 PM
The information below was sent to me by a friend.
Nidal Hasan on Obama’s Security Task Force…………..
Now we have a little insight into why Obama said to not jump to conclusions about Nidal Hasan and why Congressmen were not briefed before the press leak.
This murdering Muslim Terrorist who killed and wounded the soldiers and civilians at Ft Hood, Texas was an advisor to Obama’s Homeland Security team. Look on page 29 of the Homeland Security Institute link below.
I wonder how many more skeletons there are to come to of the cupboard. Who else is there in the government or its numerous advisors or Czars that will harm our country and citizens?
http://www.gwumc.edu/hspi/old/PTTF_ProceedingsReport_05.19.09.pdf
Go to page number 29, scroll down toward the bottom on the Left Column
He is listed under “THINKING ANEW- SECURITY PRIORITIES FOR THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION”, as Nidal Hasan, Uniformed Serv ices University School of Medicine (8TH DOWN ON LEFT COLUMN PAGE 29).
Please send this link to everybody on your email list. The world needs to know who Obama really is. This is very scary guys.
ILUVTX on November 17, 2009 at 9:49 PM
Please. Get a grip. Have you done any research on this at all? This is why so much of the REAL criticisms can’t get through to the populace….because mouth-breathers like you fill the channel with obviously and easily refuted lies.
Even Jerome Corsi had the following to say:
ReaganRoxx on November 17, 2009 at 10:01 PM
All I want is an investigation —not stonewalling by this administration. If this is “all lies” then let’s hear what the administration has to say about this. Why are they afraid to address the issues?
ILUVTX on November 17, 2009 at 10:13 PM
Let me apologize for my choice of language. I agree with you that there are investigations that need to happen and relationships that need to be scrutinized. Just having a bad day…
ReaganRoxx on November 18, 2009 at 12:06 AM
Congress will take no stand of any kind against President Obama. Both the Legislative and the Executive branches of the United States government are currently being run by, and exclusively in the interests of, Democrats. If you expect to have any standing with these bodies as a mere Citizen, or any expectation that one Democrat will stand against another Democrat on behalf or mere Citizens, you are sadly mistaken.
However, this malicious cabal will be terminated, beginning next year. Democrats apparently have short memories, but we Citizens will deliver a sharp reminder, even though most Democrats will not require it again, in their new entry-level jobs in the private sector.
Go Sarah. Go kick serious ass. For the rest of us.
drunyan8315 on November 18, 2009 at 1:03 AM
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