As long as KSM doesn’t end up back on the streets of Kandahar or wherever, I think you’d likely see highly motivated conservative turnout during the next election (especially if the trial turned into the jihadist soapbox that many expect) but no huge falloff among Democrats. Tell me I’m wrong. Please!

Dhimmicrats can always find 2 out of 10 uninformed Americans who actually believe that they will be given free housing, a Mercedes, iPhone, and boatloads of free money because they deserve reparations, and only Dhimmicrats will get it for them. Another 2 out of 10 will always believe Dhimmicrats will allow their relatives to immigrate and get free jobs and free health care in union halls across America, over American citizens who live here.

So with 40% of the electorate sewed up as completely gullible and incompetent to make decisions regarding which Islamist will blow them AND their children up in a nuclear explosion, the Dhimmicrat party will never be extinct. They will always soldier on live the zombie virus they truly are. Only a head shot can take them down, and that’s a lotta ammo, even in a Left For Dead video game.

Dhimmicrats: Brainless and Zombiefied Politicians Incarnate

Subsunk

Subsunk on November 17, 2009 at 8:25 AM

Bush Memos Parallel Claim Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s Children Were Tortured With Insects

Spathi on November 17, 2009 at 12:30 AM

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in ON MONTH

Spathi on November 17, 2009 at 12:30 AM

By the way, KSM wasn’t waterboarded 183 times. He was waterboarded THREE times in one month, twice in one day, with the water poured on his face 183 times in those three episodes. Each time a small amount of water was dropped on his face was counted as one of those 183 ATTEMPTS. The interrogation was supervised by a medical officer and his vital signs were taken throughout the procedure. He did not know that the interrogators weren’t going to kill him, and waterboarding may be debated as torture by rational and sound minds. And KSMs kids were never tortured to find his whereabouts. His mothers may have been told they were tortured, but the children were untouched.

The irrational decision to fly four planes full of innocent civilians into four buildings in the United States capitol and New York City packed with innocent civilians and military personnel who were not legally or illegally engaged in warfare with Islamic people in any theater of the globe, with the intention of killing as many civilians as possible (remember that potentially 50,000 civilians worked inside the World Trade Centers alone), can only be seen as far worse than any waterboarding actions which occurred to prevent other such attacks on the United States.

Americans are allowed, by international law, and customary legal warfare, to defend themselves once attacked, in as many different ways and means necessary to win the war and achieve peace. This is the way War has been fought since time began. If this avenue of self defense is forbidden to only Americans, then the only possible response becomes a nuclear response with catastrophic consequences for the entire Muslim world, since the combatants cannot be separated from the indigenous Muslim populations of the globe. (Remember, we couldn’t separate out the Soviet civilians from the Soviet military personnel in a sudden Cold War exchange, if it had occurred, and there was no outcry over the possibility of refraining from harming 160 million+ Russians when the lives of over 200 million Americans would have been summarily snuffed out in such a war.)

KSM does not deserve the protections of the Constitution. Only the protections of the Geneva Conventions, which he has already been granted. The War is not over and his war crimes have not been ajudicated yet, as they should be only by military courts martial.

(And Spathi is an idiotic tool, but that is beside the point.)

Bring him into the US at the peril of 300 million Americans, and while your party may never be eliminated, it is entirely possible the lives of 200 million Americans may one day be extinguished by treating him as a rock star hero to ragheads everywhere. (And yeah, I said ragheads and I mean it, too.) Try wearing that on the Dhimmicrat Party’s sleeve for the next century.

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Subsunk on November 17, 2009 at 8:42 AM

So he was tortured 3 times instead of 183?

And what about his kids..

We still need trials for those who tortured them. I don’t think confessions from torture should count in trial.

Spathi on November 17, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Torture is what you call it. I don’t believe it is torture unless severe physical or mental harm is SURE to result. Hundreds of thousands of American pilots have been waterboarded as part of their training. None of them shows the slightest sign of mental damage or irreparable physical harm. While they may have felt they were drowning and going to die, there was always a way to make it stop. Tell the Truth. KSM did after the first attempt. Not more than 6 minutes worth of pain or fear. I’ve had worse at my own wedding and even promotion parties. If waterboarding the man for a couple of hours over his lifetime is torture, then imagine what living with a pussy like you must be. Zounds, your wife/boyfriend must be a saint.

There should be no trials for Men who did their duty based on specific legal guidance which authorized them to do so. They were given legal opinions by Men, who were correct, that waterboarding was a legal and just method to be used in obtaining intelligence information from hardened terrorist killers who had the potential to kill another 300, 3,000, or 300,000 Americans in the very near future. They did their duty, and no court of law should convict them in this country.

Of course, radicals like you may find ways to extradite them to countries where liberal goons will place them on trial illegally and make a show of it all to lather themselves up and make themselves feel like big men for taking on Americans. But that would just confirm our Men are ten times better than you because they were willing to do their duty to protect their country, while you and the denizens of your imaginary utopias can only team up on folks who wouldn’t lift a finger to hurt you, but who would stand square between your cowardly soul and the likes of KSM who would take a dull knife, hog-tie you and your family, and then grab you by the hair and begin sawing slowly through the skin and muscles of your neck, the red blood gushing out over his shoes and splattering on the floor and walls, your breath coming in heaves, gurgling in your own blood and choking you while the pain from the knife severing your sinews burns through your brain. For sixty seconds you feel every slice. Then, thankfully, you feel no more, your eyes go blank, and the demon sets you blood soaked head on the back of your still pumping corpse.

You family is next for this treatment unless you decide now to accept that Men who legally obtained information which could save your life are justified in pouring less than a gallon of water up a terrorist’s nose to make him experience 5 minutes of discomfort before telling the Truth about his plans to murder you. If you can’t then they will remain giants among us, and you will be the pitiful amounts of worm excrement littered along the ocean floor. Right where you belong. With the other detritus of whiny cowards who found nothing worth dying for except their own comfort and imaginary lies of purity and allegiance to their Fuehrer, I mean Messiah.

The day I see your kind standing up to radical Muslims and taking up the sword to defend my family, that’s the day you get to stand on the same ground as the Men who serve their country, who do their duty, and who are on their worst day ten thousand times better than you have ever been.

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Subsunk on November 17, 2009 at 4:27 PM