Examiner analysis: More than 10% of stimulus jobs are phony

posted at 5:17 pm on November 16, 2009 by Allahpundit

A follow-up to Ed’s post on Michigan this morning reminding us once again that if you start with a garbage indicator like jobs “created or saved,” you’re bound to end up with garbage data. How much garbage? 75,000+ phantom jobs, and that’s based only on what newspapers have dredged up so far. The White House actually excluded data from another 60,000 bogus jobs from its recent “Recovery” report because even they couldn’t come up with a way to spin it credibly. A taste:

One recipient – Talladega County of Alabama – claimed that 5,000 jobs had been saved or created from only $42,000 in stimulus funds.

“The administration committed from the start to be upfront with the American people about the impact of the Recovery Act. Overall, the recipients provided good information on the impact of the Recovery Act across the country,” Rob Nabors, deputy director at OMB, told ABC News Monday. “The test that we used when examining the data for accuracy was, ‘Is that reasonable?’ When the answer was no, we acted accordingly.”

“For instance,” Nabors noted, “there is little chance that a $42,000 grant actually created 5,000 jobs, and we did not want that count to be part of the final jobs report. We are continuing to examine data for inconsistencies or errors, whether small or large. Given the unprecedented nature of this reporting effort, these are cautious, responsible steps to ensure that the information provided to the American people is accurate and reliable.”

Follow the Examiner link, scroll down to the items below the map, and see for yourself what sort of crap did constitute genuine job creation according to OMB’s “cautious, responsible steps.” Like Baseball Crank, my favorite is the one from Fayettville, Arkansas.

The punchline? The Examiner’s piece isn’t even the most embarrassing stimulus story of the day. Brace yourselves: My friends, it’s come to this. Exit question via Jim Geraghty: This really does explain the “57 states” gaffe, doesn’t it?


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is 100 percent more than ten percent??

( rhetorical question )

Janos Hunyadi on November 16, 2009 at 5:20 PM

Color me not surprised.

SuperManGreenLantern on November 16, 2009 at 5:20 PM

This on top of the tax credit hat is going to have to be repaid by people next April means little to no improvement, possibly even worsening, of the economy.

Enoxo on November 16, 2009 at 5:21 PM

Isn’t this like saying “more than 10% of tooth fairy sightings are false”?

thirteen28 on November 16, 2009 at 5:21 PM

Fake, Phony, Fraud.

Jerome Horwitz on November 16, 2009 at 5:22 PM

Facts are stubborn racist things.

gwelf on November 16, 2009 at 5:23 PM

With 787 bil, you could give 3,148,000 people jobs for 5 years and pay them $50 k per year. Mr. President, with respect, where is our effing money?

Kataklysmic on November 16, 2009 at 5:25 PM

“Saved or Created”

Translation:

CREATED jobs to SAVE Obama’s Ass.

portlandon on November 16, 2009 at 5:25 PM

Are the AP writers leading the charge to investigate?

El_Terrible on November 16, 2009 at 5:25 PM

just 10%????

moonbatkiller on November 16, 2009 at 5:25 PM

is 100 percent more than ten percent??

( rhetorical question )

Janos Hunyadi on November 16, 2009 at 5:20 PM

Beat me to it. LOL.

fogw on November 16, 2009 at 5:25 PM

You guys are just a bunch of wingnuts… I’m sure ACORN is able to match up every single one of those so-called “phantom jobs” with someone from their voter registration drives.

(do I really need a /sarc tag here?)

malclave on November 16, 2009 at 5:26 PM

Sorry, I am not buying that it’s only 10%.

Cindy Munford on November 16, 2009 at 5:27 PM

You don’t put more water into a pool by lifting buckets of it out of the deep end and dumping them into the shallow end.

TheUnrepentantGeek on November 16, 2009 at 5:28 PM

The story about the jobs being created in phony Congressional Districts absolutely blows my mind. Not only do liberals think we’re stupid, they actually don’t even pretend to care anymore. This is their big grab for money and control and they are not going to let facts and common sense get in the way. If this power grab fails, their statist agenda may be set back 50 years. One can only hope.

BardMan on November 16, 2009 at 5:28 PM

Any attempt to measure the stimulus by counting jobs on individual projects is garbage, not just he “jobs saved” nonsense. There is only one set of data that matter – overall unemployment.

The stimulus was billed as a big old “jolt to the economy”, that would inject massive amounts of cash to keep “unemployment below 8%”. It was a macroeconomic scheme from the beginning so the only number that matters is the overall +/- jobs count. Any attempt to parse it out by jobs on individual projects is inherently misleading.

We’re at minus 3 million jobs. 10.2% instead of 8%. it failed.

forest on November 16, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Are the AP writers leading the charge to investigate?

El_Terrible on November 16, 2009 at 5:25 PM

“fact checking” Palin.

Joe Caps on November 16, 2009 at 5:29 PM

I live in Fayetteville (you forgot the 2nd ‘e’ AP), and let me tell you, that lawnmower did save some jobs. Weeds had grown up so tall in front of the city buildings that people couldn’t get in, and . . .

Bah, can’t even make up a bad reason for that kind of claim — other than the fact that the city is a liberal college town.

zerosheep on November 16, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Jobs lost exceeds jobs created, so I put it at well over 100%.

Ronnie on November 16, 2009 at 5:30 PM

More than 10% of Obama’s promises are total BS.
More than 10% of troops in Afghanistan are waiting for decision.
More than 10% of beer summits accomplish jack-squat.
More than 10% of Congress will not sign on to Obamacare.
More than 10% of MSNBC anchors are a mouthpiece for Obama.
More than 10% of trolls live in their mommy’s basement.

fogw on November 16, 2009 at 5:31 PM

I know for a fact they are building and rebuilding roads that do not need built or rebuilt. This is a fricking waste and a con.

CWforFreedom on November 16, 2009 at 5:31 PM

Oops–they jumped the shark with the non existent districts in Iowa and Arizona. They will be there come next election when ACORN dredges up the non-existent votes for the Dems!

chickasaw42 on November 16, 2009 at 5:32 PM

What’s beautiful about this is that when this story gets traction, the administration can blame the stimulus recipients for their ‘inaccurate’ reporting.

catmman on November 16, 2009 at 5:33 PM

That’s 10% for all 57 states.

anXdem on November 16, 2009 at 5:34 PM

Why don’t we just spend $10 trillion MORE, per Paul Krugman’s obviously grounded analyses?

I mean, if the Obama stimulus is THIS GOOD, then multiplying it by at least ten will put the nation BEYOND full employment.

Bush sucks!

/Obamazombie off

Good Lt on November 16, 2009 at 5:36 PM

I know for a FACT that several thousand jobs were created!

They’re guvmint jobs, I guess. Good paying.

You sit at a desk for eight hours a day and make up a list of phoney “jobs created or saved” for the fraud in the White House.

Hey! It takes a LOT of people to come up with this much BS.

GoldenEagle4444 on November 16, 2009 at 5:36 PM

What’s beautiful about this is that when this story gets traction, the administration can blame the stimulus recipients for their ‘inaccurate’ reporting.

catmman on November 16, 2009 at 5:33 PM

That’s a given. The mantra for this administration is:
“We will never accept the blame as long as there is one American left standing that we can point the finger at”.

Yoop on November 16, 2009 at 5:39 PM

Obama is ‘Numerically Challenged’.

PappaMac on November 16, 2009 at 5:39 PM

Crisis, Crisis……….Oh Dear ….Another Crisis !

Sandybourne on November 16, 2009 at 5:40 PM

Examiner analysis: More than 10% of stimulus jobs are phony and rose unexpectedly.

They forgot to push their macro key!

chickasaw42 on November 16, 2009 at 5:40 PM

The only jobs created or saved by Porkulus are those in the government bureaucracies tasked with counting the created or saved jobs.

pain train on November 16, 2009 at 5:40 PM

In fact, Recovery.gov lists hundreds of millions spent and hundreds of jobs created in Congressional districts that don’t exist.

And the government pushed Arthur Andersen out of business!?!

jaime on November 16, 2009 at 5:41 PM

One recipient – Talladega County of Alabama – claimed that 5,000 jobs had been saved or created from only $42,000 in stimulus funds.

It’s magic! You rubes will never understand how it all works. Only brilliant, gifted minds like Obama can understand how $42,000 can save or create practically every job in Talladega county.

So, just shut up and pay your taxes. Go watch your NASCAR races and leave the governing to the adults.

UltimateBob on November 16, 2009 at 5:41 PM

Where can I order my ObaMao shirt here in the US?

chickasaw42 on November 16, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Some jobs saved/created in Congressional districts that don’t exist!

Via Ace of Spades:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jobs-saved-created-congressional-districts-exist/story?id=9097853

Tom

marinetbryant on November 16, 2009 at 5:49 PM

Change!

The Notorious G.O.P on November 16, 2009 at 5:52 PM

The Emperor has no clothes

nyx on November 16, 2009 at 5:52 PM

Examiner analysis: More than 10% of stimulus jobs are phony

LegendHasIt analysis: More than 100% of the 0bama administration are phonies.

LegendHasIt on November 16, 2009 at 5:57 PM

If they’re creating 5,000 jobs with $42,000, then we’ll have to tackle some serious poverty problems soon…

hawksruleva on November 16, 2009 at 5:57 PM

I want to know where the 86th district of Arizona is. Apparently they have jobs there paid for by millions of dollars.
 
Is FraUd an impeachable offense? Is this evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors? How long do we have to put up with this crap from these dhimmis?

Blacksmith8 on November 16, 2009 at 5:58 PM

LegendHasIt analysis: More than 100% of the 0bama administration are phonies.

LegendHasIt on November 16, 2009 at 5:57 PM

LMAO!

nyx on November 16, 2009 at 5:58 PM

Please, you’re killin’ me. Jobs “created or saved” went from a count of 30k to 600k+ in what? Two days? Only bozombies are still clinging to this bulldip. Or maybe its clinging to them..

Bozombies yeah I coined that. These are living mindless creatures that lurch around saying “Brains! Brrrrains! I nEEEEeeeed brains!”

dogsoldier on November 16, 2009 at 5:59 PM

Was the Oprah thing that boring? No obligatory open thread?

lorien1973 on November 16, 2009 at 6:00 PM

What are all you dumb saps that bought into that smooth-talkin’ Kenyan hustler’s marxist/socialist utopian shuck-‘n-jive crap using to wash the egg off your face?

bannedbyhuffpo on November 16, 2009 at 6:02 PM

Was the Oprah thing that boring? No obligatory open thread?

lorien1973 on November 16, 2009 at 6:00 PM

no it was a great interview therfore Allah has no interest of posting about it. she knocked it out of the park. and connected on many levels. Like the sherlock Holmes book. The key clue is that the dog didn’t bark. the quiet of the palin “haters” speaks volumes abut the interview

unseen on November 16, 2009 at 6:02 PM

The punchline? The Examiner’s piece isn’t even the most embarrassing stimulus story of the day. Brace yourselves: My friends, it’s come to this.

Lol. An even bigger punchline is the Legacy Media knowing the administration is completely full of sh!t but continuing to shovel it for them anyway.

BadgerHawk on November 16, 2009 at 6:02 PM

Yoop on November 16, 2009 at 5:39 PM

+100

cmsinaz on November 16, 2009 at 6:02 PM

I want to know where the 86th district of Arizona is. Apparently they have jobs there paid for by millions of dollars.

Blacksmith8 on November 16, 2009 at 5:58 PM

That would be Harry Reid’s pocket.

PappaMac on November 16, 2009 at 6:02 PM

$8.4 million spent and 40.3 jobs created in the 99th Congressional District of the U.S. Virgin Islands.

I thought the mohammedans were all worked up about 72 virgins.

Blacksmith8 on November 16, 2009 at 6:04 PM

This is just window dressing…

… all the money went to the unions.

Seven Percent Solution on November 16, 2009 at 6:05 PM

Economic illiterates.

More often than not, the proper steps in any given situation of the past 10 months are the exact opposite of what this administration has chosen to do.

I guess that’s what happens when you elect an empty suit community organizer from the Chicago Democratic Machine that has never really worked in the private sector, never managed or has been the executive of anything, voted “present” while in public service, and has concealed their entire collegiate career.

visions on November 16, 2009 at 6:05 PM

One recipient – Talladega County of Alabama – claimed that 5,000 jobs had been saved or created from only $42,000 in stimulus funds.

Wonder how long somebody would stay at a job for $8.40 per year. The people could get better-paying jobs in Haiti.

Steve Z on November 16, 2009 at 6:06 PM

So what? 900% of Obama is phony!

Cybergeezer on November 16, 2009 at 6:10 PM

With 787 bil, you could give 3,148,000 people jobs for 5 years and pay them $50 k per year. Mr. President, with respect, where is our effing money?

Kataklysmic on November 16, 2009 at 5:25 PM

I’m sorry your call has been redirected to:
1)George Soros
2)Andy Stern
3)The Rathke boys
4)Some partners at Goldman Sachs
5)Hugo $$$$$$
6)12th Imam (you really don’t want to know the name)
7)Bill Clinton
8)Hill Clinton
9)Al Glorbal Warming
10)Prince Abdullah of Saudi Arabia

Blacksmith8 on November 16, 2009 at 6:11 PM

no it was a great interview therfore Allah has no interest of posting about it. she knocked it out of the park. and connected on many levels.

Yes, precisely. It’s part of my grand conspiracy to deflate sales of Palin’s book by not mentioning her at all on the site. Remember that post I wrote last week knocking MSNBC for using photoshopped pics of her? And those two posts I wrote two weeks ago knocking Politico for their hit piece on her? Pure smokescreen.

I wish I could go through life with pat conspiratorial explanations for my every disappointment.

Allahpundit on November 16, 2009 at 6:11 PM

(do I really need a /sarc tag here?)

malclave on November 16, 2009 at 5:26 PM

Sadly, no.

Blacksmith8 on November 16, 2009 at 6:12 PM

Maybe they were counting jobs in state House districts.

With all those states with 99 Congressional districts, Obama is playing with a full House, if not a full deck, with a few jokers thrown in.

Steve Z on November 16, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Examiner analysis: More than 10% of stimulus jobs are phony

That’s it? I would have thought 10% would represent the best case scenario for legitimate jobs.

RightWinged on November 16, 2009 at 6:16 PM

Mr. President, with respect, where is our effing money?

Kataklysmic on November 16, 2009 at 5:25 PM

ACORN has it. They took Federal money to help people eff Salvadoran teenagers!

Steve Z on November 16, 2009 at 6:18 PM

wish I could go through life with pat conspiratorial explanations for my every disappointment.

Allahpundit on November 16, 2009 at 6:11 PM

allah you have I point of view and you post articles that reinforce that point of view more often then you post articles that distract form that point of view. that is called being human. I am sure as a Palin supporter I would post more positive articles about Palin and downplay the negatives. There is nothing in that that scream “conspiracy”. what I and many have aproblem with is that you try to “hide” your point of view and/or will not admit it You point to the two positive articles you post but fail to mention yes you posted 20 newgative and/or slanted ones in the sametimeframe.

You like Palin yet don’t think she can win in a general so you are trying to frame the debate. Again not a problem Yet you get upset when people point out your actions.

unseen on November 16, 2009 at 6:18 PM

legitimate jobs.

RightWinged on November 16, 2009 at 6:16 PM

Legitimate? From the Kenyan born jet setter? You’re kidding me right?
 
The only thing legitimate about Barry Dunham IS he’s illegitimate. Then again maybe when Michelle was referring to Stanley Dunham’s marital status, what she meant to say was Barry Dunham is a bastard. You’d have to ask her about that.

Blacksmith8 on November 16, 2009 at 6:22 PM

Color me not surprised.

SuperManGreenLantern on November 16, 2009 at 5:20 PM

RACIST!!

angryed on November 16, 2009 at 6:24 PM

And lets face it. the oprah interview does not reinforce your point of view that Palin can not win a general election. she was warm, caring, she connected to her audience, she was protrayed as a human being with some warts. She was touted as a good mother a protective mother/grandmother with a heart of forgivness, an intelligent person not a dumb hick. therefore you are not rushing to print. I am sure you will post something about the interview but you see no reason to “beat” others to the post or to elavate the point of view that the interview conveyed.

unseen on November 16, 2009 at 6:25 PM

Virginia got stimulus money. All the state orgs froze hiring except for top echelon jobs and canceled raises for all. They even closed a bunch of highway rest stops (sorry truckers with jobs). I guess that means they saved or created what, 20% more jobs?

scalleywag on November 16, 2009 at 6:25 PM

Figures don’t lie, but, liars do figure…,..

DL13 on November 16, 2009 at 6:27 PM

Math is hard.

D2Boston on November 16, 2009 at 6:28 PM

You have got a current Adminstration made up mostly of Chicago Democratic Machine politicians. These are the guys who literally INVENTED the ghost voter!

So is it really any big surprise that they should now create ghost jobs?

pilamaye on November 16, 2009 at 6:29 PM

Top 5 states with the most pork dished out from the porkulus.

1. California
2. New York
3. Washington
4. Florida
5. North Carolina

And by a complete and total coincidence all 5 voted for Obama.

angryed on November 16, 2009 at 6:29 PM

Shirley….it’s getting close to Pitchfork Time in America.

redwhiteblue on November 16, 2009 at 6:32 PM

I would have thought 10% would represent the best case scenario for legitimate jobs.

RightWinged on November 16, 2009 at 6:16 PM

Actually, if 3% are legit, I’ll be surprised.

Dave R. on November 16, 2009 at 6:35 PM

Heh. More black on the Charlie Crist toast burning.

SouthernGent on November 16, 2009 at 6:38 PM

Exit question via Jim Geraghty: This really does explain the “57 states” gaffe, doesn’t it?

Not at all. Besides the 50 states, The Precedent was referring to (1) the State of The Art, (2) the State of Mind, (3) the State of Mankind, (4) the State of Disbelief, (5) the State of Emergency, (6) the State of Denial, and his personal favorite, (7) the State of Confusion.

ya2daup on November 16, 2009 at 6:40 PM

newsflash more than 10% of news is made up crap by the MSM trying to push their narriative

unseen on November 16, 2009 at 6:44 PM

THE BIG LIES

The stimulus saves jobs
The stimulus creates jobs
The people love Obamacare (That’s why it comes packaged with fines and prison threats)
Obamacare will reduce costs of health care
Obamacare is great for old people (Pretty soon we’ll use the old bastards for Soylent Green.)
We’re usurping power for the people’s own good (Pelos uber alles)
The Earth is warming
This warming is caused by human pollution
Plants create oxygen (true by day, but at night they expire CO2)
We’re creating diversity (And Hasan is the result)
We’re not socialists (And Stalin was a Methodist)

MaiDee on November 16, 2009 at 6:47 PM

Whoever said the stimulus was designed to produce jobs. Jobs were just a farce to get it passed.

The plan is to destroy jobs so that cities are begging for jobs they wouldn’t have otherwise agreed to take—such as housing Gitmo inmates.

Stupid is as stupid does.

ted c on November 16, 2009 at 6:54 PM

Maybe I’m an idiot and things have changed in the real world, like everyone is crazy. But why is it nobody is calling them out on this? Like maybe some of those Republicans in the house and senate? Can you imagine the crap they are going to pull once they force us to take their heath plan, the lies they are going to spin? All of a sudden everything is one big lie. It’s a continual spew of shit from the WH every day now. I think the next time the President gives a speech everyone should stand up and say LIAR! If anything, Nancy Pisslosi’s head will pop off, and that will be so worth it.

nwpammy on November 16, 2009 at 6:56 PM

I was skeptical that the site claimed an 86th congressional district for Arizona, since Arizona only has 8 districts. (I remember when it only had two). So I went to do an inquiry, and yes, it listed several others.
Not only are these not congressional districts, but they aren’t even state legislative districts, because Arizona has only 30 of those. There are 14 congressional districts which do not exist, and 8 of those don’t exist even as state legislative districts. The breakdown by congressional districts, at least, is worthless.
Utah only has three congressional districts, but the 00th, 4th, 23rd, and 68th are listed as receiving money. That one is worthless, too.
I looked over the list of recipients in Utah. Most of the names appear to be legitimate entities, but that doesn’t say anything about whether the projects they are recieving money for are legitimate.
I haven’t checked the addition to see whether the numbers add up to the totals, but given that whoever broke the numbers down by congressional district was evidently an incompetent dweeb, it would not suprise me very much to learn that they don’t.
Can the AP assign a fact checker who knows how to run a spreadsheet, or a calculator, or even pencil-and-paper addition to the site?

Confutus on November 16, 2009 at 7:37 PM

In my haste to post my comment, I didn’t read any of the above comments so if this has been said, so what, it needs to be said again!
It’s all well and good to post this info but what is being done about this. Is this just your average govt. incompetence or is this your average govt. fraud and theft.
Some people need to go down for this.Could any of us keep our jobs if this was our performance. No! We would end up in jail! What can we do?

Vince on November 16, 2009 at 7:41 PM

The 57 states is all wrong. He clearly states he has been to 57 states with one to go and his staff will not let him go to Alaska and Hawaii. 57+1+2=60. He clearly thinks there are 60 states. Maybe he believes the 10 Canadian provinces are part of the US. That means canopfor can vote in the midterms.

cobrakai99 on November 16, 2009 at 8:08 PM

In San Diego that makes 1/10 of a job…or about 4 hours a week, 48 minutes a day they have put someone to work.
A billion dollars just doesn’t go as far as it used to…

right2bright on November 16, 2009 at 8:14 PM

The one scam that really appealed to me is liars in WI and TN concluded that using stimulus money to give RAISES to local government workers (remember the recession?) equated to saving jobs.

Now, these savants didn’t coordinate on this bright idea, I have to bet my firstborn on that. The common contact between them has to be some bright little uber liar working in the WH.

Truly, Obama cannot abide with the idea he might fail at something, make a bad decision. If the data doesn’t show what he needs, make it up.

We have, with all of his other issues, a total fakir at the helm. No wonder he hides his transcripts.

Harry Schell on November 16, 2009 at 8:28 PM

Math is HARD!

petunia on November 16, 2009 at 9:13 PM

The 57 states is all wrong. He clearly states he has been to 57 states with one to go and his staff will not let him go to Alaska and Hawaii. 57+1+2=60. He clearly thinks there are 60 states. Maybe he believes the 10 Canadian provinces are part of the US. That means canopfor can vote in the midterms.

cobrakai99 on November 16, 2009 at 8:08 PM

I’m certain that Venezuela and Cuba are among the states somewhere.

Not only is Math hard, but geography is impossible! Who understands it anyway? And the Constitution? Well you know.

petunia on November 16, 2009 at 9:16 PM

We need to apologize to Obama because statistics were shown for only 50 of the 57 states. Here are the accurate and honest figures for jobs saved/created by the Stimulus in the missing 7 states.

1 State of Total Disbelief 900,000
2 State of Utter Dismay 850,000
3 State of Disingenuous Ambiguity 800,000
4 State of Treachery 750,000
5 State of Deceit 700,000
6 State of Paranoid Delusion 650,000
7 State of Imaginary Fantasy 600,000

See? YOU WERE ALL WRONG AND OBAMA WAS RIGHT!

MaiDee on November 16, 2009 at 10:20 PM

Admit a part of the truth so you can support the Big Lie and deflect criticism of being biased.

Dr. ZhivBlago on November 16, 2009 at 10:41 PM

is 100 percent more than ten percent??

Janos Hunyadi on November 16, 2009 at 5:20 PM

Not when you use Obamath.

MarkTheGreat on November 17, 2009 at 8:38 AM

Oh man, I can’t believe this! They casually claim non-existent jobs in non-existent districts, and think no one will notice?!? The Obama administration has moved beyond parody. What could the Onion do that would go farther than this?

jwolf on November 17, 2009 at 8:41 AM

Give the boy king a break. He is overseas now trying to brush up on his chinese rithmetic. Harvard let him down in his ciphering class.

Ellie Mae made me do it Uncle Jed

bluegrass on November 17, 2009 at 10:02 AM

When is the media going to start calling a spade a spade?
The obummer white house is telling nothing but lies.
Yet they sit there and gobble them up.
Sooner or later they have to get tired of his lies.

ColdWarrior57 on November 17, 2009 at 4:39 PM