Bailed-out GM to spend millions … overseas

posted at 9:30 am on November 16, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The government dumped tens of billions of dollars into General Motors, and then dictated a “political bankruptcy” that trampled the rights of senior creditors in order to cut a sweetheart deal for the Obama administration’s union pals.  Americans expected to see that pay off in broader investment and job creation, and that’s precisely what GM has in mind … for Europe.  ABC News reports that GM plans to spend billions restructuring its Opel subsidiary rather than its core American businesses, and that has some lawmakers seeing red:

Specifically, at a time when the nation’s unemployment rate has soared to levels not seen in decades and GM is cutting thousands of U.S. jobs, the company’s CEO is considering spending millions from its U.S. coffers — fattened by $50 billion in taxpayer aid — on its overseas operations, a possibility that has outraged critics and lawmakers.

“I don’t think most Americans believe that when the taxpayer bailouts were happening it was intended for that purpose,” said Rep. Anthony Weiner, D-N.Y. “It was intended to protect the American economy — not take the money overseas.”

GM’s Chief Executive Fritz Henderson recently announced that the bailed-out automaker might use its U.S. funds to help restructure its European unit Opel, noting that the financing agreements with the Treasury for the $34 billion of bailout funds already spent allow GM to spend any subsequently earned funds as its executives see fit. Some $16 billion remaining after its bankruptcy has strings attached.

And it’s not just Europe, either:

GM has other plans to expand its business abroad. In August, GM China announced a $293 million venture, while last month GM South Korea announced a new infusion of more than $400 million. The automaker also recently inaugurated a $300 million transmission plant in Mexico.

Well, why not?  GM is making money again, and so — oh, wait, they’re not:

General Motors Co. says it lost $1.2 billion from the time it left bankruptcy protection through Sept. 30, far better than previous quarters and a sign that the auto giant is starting to turn around.

Well, OK, they’re doing better, so that means — oh, wait, they changed their accounting practices, too:

Chief Financial Officer Ray Young cautioned that the second- and third-quarter figures don’t comply with U.S. accounting standards and shouldn’t be compared with previous earnings.

GM says it is re-valuing its assets and liabilities and should comply with accounting standards next year.

Let’s get this straight.  GM gets tens of billions of dollars in taxpayer money and gets an Obama-managed bankruptcy — and stops complying with accounting standards?  My goodness, they really are Government Motors!

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They could put Chevys on sale at 80% off and I wouldn’t buy one.

angryed on November 16, 2009 at 9:32 AM

So that’s why they just announced they are going to start loan repayments.

Punditpawn on November 16, 2009 at 9:34 AM

GM is just going to keep failing. They ruined their domestic sales forever by accepting bailout money and handed Ford a great PR moment.

They’ll keep asking for bailout money and, rather than let them fail, Obama will keep giving them money. If he doesn’t and they go under it’ll look even worse.

Kronos on November 16, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Obowa will be on top of this just as soon as he makes a decision on Afghanistan, say early 2011.

Bishop on November 16, 2009 at 9:38 AM

Not exactly rocket science. If they want to be profitable they have to build their product in an atmosphere free of union wages….Nothing has changed…You can’t make a profit when you have to pay the UAW extortion wages & benefits…

Tim Zank on November 16, 2009 at 9:38 AM

Somebody should ask Obama about this in a news conference.

Don’t bother asking Gibbs, he’s useless as far as I can tell.

cs89 on November 16, 2009 at 9:38 AM

Isn`t the China division one of the best for GM?
And if GM does not invest in Europe (via Opel) it will be totally shut out of the European market.

Isn`t the weakness of GM is mainly in the US? Americans ain`t buying enough Chevrolets.

albill on November 16, 2009 at 9:38 AM

So, the Obama administration is now redistributing American wealth in Europe. This is actually what the Global Warming Summit in a few weeks is all about. Using American tax dollars to create a world government that hates America. Guess we can start calling Obama/Biden Pinky and the Brain.

Tommy_G on November 16, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Can I haz some dough?/Australia.

OldEnglish on November 16, 2009 at 9:39 AM

How long before Hannity trades in his Escalade on a Lincoln?

Oldnuke on November 16, 2009 at 9:40 AM

GM repayments are a shell game, repaying taxpayer dollars in one account with taxpayers dollars from another account.

In the wake of Obama’s anti-business policies, if I were GM, or any manufacturing company for that matter, I’d be planning on moving abroad ASAP.

petefrt on November 16, 2009 at 9:40 AM

These dierty financial statements are not audited. They most likely are like Obama’s residential loan application. Fudging on write offs pertaing to Saturn and other plant closings are ignored. I suspect they will never see being printed. This is many times worse than enron.

seven on November 16, 2009 at 9:40 AM

Awesome! Now we can count jobs saved or created in Europe!

kooly on November 16, 2009 at 9:41 AM

This would only make sense if your intention was to further weaken the US economy and thus further weaken the US. . .

rbj on November 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM

As an American taxpaying stock holder can anyone tell me how to figure my rate of return on my investment?

bluegrass on November 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Don’t bother asking Gibbs, he’s useless as far as I can tell.

He’s just following his boss’s lead.

As for G.M. things are going to be bad for them for a good while in N.A. And, yes, short of some miracle, everytime they need some help they’ll just run to the gov’t and get their Obama money.

As said above, for Obama the only thing worse than continued bailouts is G.M. failing……at least to the punditry.

JoeinTX on November 16, 2009 at 9:43 AM

and how do the UAW reps and labor friends on the GM Board feel about this? are they gonna ship those UAW workers from Detroit to Europe to do OPEL work?

heh maroons

ginaswo on November 16, 2009 at 9:44 AM

I want to see GM wrestle GE for the next boatload of stimulus cash
at least there would be some entertainment value

but Immelt would likely kick Fritz Hendersons butt, who can sub for Fritz? hmmm some pixxed UAW worker!

ginaswo on November 16, 2009 at 9:46 AM

Uh…what? Opel is the only GM company that actually makes decent cars (I’m currently stationed in Germany). I should hope at the very least GM is sinking money into Opel to then begin rebadging Opels as Chevys and selling them in the States.

Spc Steve on November 16, 2009 at 9:46 AM

Somebody should ask Obama about this in a news conference.

Don’t bother asking Gibbs, he’s useless as far as I can tell.

cs89 on November 16, 2009 at 9:38 AM

LOL Gibbs would respond, “Being the free-market advocates that we are, we believe it would be inappropriate to dictate to GM how to run their business. That is not the proper role for government.” (with 12-14 “ehhs” and “umms” sprinkles throughout)

Joe Caps on November 16, 2009 at 9:46 AM

Don’t some of those millions belong to us taxpayers?

scalleywag on November 16, 2009 at 9:47 AM

I change the channel whenever I see one of their commercials, makes me ill.

bbz123 on November 16, 2009 at 9:47 AM

This is a perfect illustration of why government has no business in business.

These moves by GM may or may not be the most efficient uses of company resources. There’s no way of telling since politics is now the driving force behind the company.

“I don’t think most Americans believe that when the taxpayer bailouts were happening it was intended for that purpose,” said Rep. Anthony Weiner, D-N.Y. “It was intended to protect the American economy — not take the money overseas.

That’s the problem, jackass. Using taxpayer funds to save American jobs is not necessarily compatible with saving the company. That’s why the government and economically ignorant politicians have no business trying to do either.

RadClown on November 16, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Since when was the government suppose to do the right/smart thing. The Department of Automotive Manufacturing doesn’t have to turn a profit, provide numbers that comply with accounting principals, or generally do the right thing.
 
Shut up and enjoy your Yugo comrade.

ClanDerson on November 16, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Yeah and can someone show me where all that demand for the Obama Clown Cars went?

bluegrass on November 16, 2009 at 9:48 AM

Sending millions, soon to be billions, of taxpayer money to overseas economies just shows the total disregard for the country that Obama exhibits with his every move. Bring the global economies up to our level by spending our money to lower our expectations and at the same time elevating them to our diminishing level. We all will pay this naive eunuch for destroying our way of life.

volsense on November 16, 2009 at 9:48 AM

As an American taxpaying stock holder can anyone tell me how to figure my rate of return on my investment?

bluegrass on November 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM

What return? Consider it lost, except in this case, we are not able to claim a capital loss on our tax returns.

ICBM on November 16, 2009 at 9:48 AM

spc steve

totally agree with you,l BUT this is not a free market, to say the very least, this is the Obama Freinds and Donors Employment Plan we re talking about

ginaswo on November 16, 2009 at 9:48 AM

Opel? The same Opel that made trucks for the Germans in WWII?

Bowing to the spawn of Hirohito, using taxpayer dollars for a company that helped the Nazi war effort.

Hope and change!

Come on libs, I thought you were the ones who were so elite when it comes to symbolism, protocol and diplomacy.

reaganaut on November 16, 2009 at 9:49 AM

Cash for punkers

bluegrass on November 16, 2009 at 9:49 AM

bluegrass

I wouldnt hold GM shares for love nor money same with AIG which some peeps are actually buying

these companies are worth negative zero

ginaswo on November 16, 2009 at 9:49 AM

GM also announced that it will start paying down it’s debt to the government (us), and believes it can be payed off, completely and ahead of schedule.

How? By using, in part, money we lent in the first place.

Ponzi 2.0.

TXUS on November 16, 2009 at 9:49 AM

Not exactly rocket science. If they want to be profitable they have to build their product in an atmosphere free of union wages….Nothing has changed…You can’t make a profit when you have to pay the UAW extortion wages & benefits…

Tim Zank on November 16, 2009 at 9:38 AM

Tim,

You are right about this when it comes to the Chinese. They can pay their workers whatever they like and the Chinese Government will not say a word. The Opel cars are made in Germany. I lived there for 3 years and if you think UAW workers get perks you should see what German workers get. Of course that is why the German unemployment rate has been so high compared to the US for years…until this president showed up, that is…

Agent of the Cross on November 16, 2009 at 9:49 AM

Buy Ford!

gophergirl on November 16, 2009 at 9:50 AM

ICBM

ohh I didnt even think of that, we cant declare the loss!! on AIG anyway, I sold my shares and took a Hawaiian vacation two years ago,l good move huh?

wait they did the bankruptcy so peeps CAN declare the loss on GM

anyone who bought AFTER the bankruptcy well you are SOL

ginaswo on November 16, 2009 at 9:50 AM

But I thought Harvard people were smart and articulate.

bluegrass on November 16, 2009 at 9:51 AM

I don’t blame GM.

This doesn’t quite fit the evil union/Democrat narrative, does it? Money and maybe jobs leaving the country and all. But it may be a glimpse of the continuing development of international mega business.

All the patriots around here in their Hondas don’t care about US carmakers and haven’t done so for decades. Why exactly should GM care about them? The bailout? GM held cards on the US. A lot of jobs would have gone up in smoke. And we give huge tax breaks to their competition to locate here. To assemble cars since Asians don’t have enough hard working people to do the jobs over there.

Whatever. I say the whole bunch of us swear off US cars forever and fly our US flags on our Kias. Or in my case, a Lambo right now. Darn cancer on our nation in Detroit let it rot, I say. They are state welfare types.

Of course, the Euro and Asian manufacturers are real free enterprise at work and certainly do not have their governments’ heads on the other pillow at night or powerful unions on their boards. Or have socialistic national governments. And as one poster here pointed out, Toyota is in the this country to raise wages just like Henry Ford did so more people can afford Camrys! That is how foreign multinationals work!

They are over here to help us out.

IlikedAUH2O on November 16, 2009 at 9:51 AM

You can’t make a profit when you have to pay the UAW extortion wages & benefits

You can’t make a profit in socialized western Europe, either – not with those national unions.

A lot of European companies have been moving to Hungary, Czech Republic, etc… Those that haven’t are importing cheap labor from Eastern Europe.

reaganaut on November 16, 2009 at 9:53 AM

“No Strings Attached” means
No Strings Attached, you morons!
Of course they stole it!

Haiku Guy on November 16, 2009 at 9:56 AM

So does this all mean that Obama, the democrats, ACORN and the SEIU all lied to us and the MSM sat back and said nothing. That’s not suppose to happen in America, what happeded?

bluegrass on November 16, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Americans expected to see that pay off in broader investment and job creation, and that’s precisely what GM has in mind … for Europe

Where is that nasty union-backed piece of work who is the filthy lying coward’s “car czar?” Shouldn’t the regime jump in and tell GM that they can’t do this with taxpayer money in the same way they decided that they could stop bonus payments to finanicial institutions under government ownership?

highhopes on November 16, 2009 at 9:58 AM

Can I haz some dough?/Australia.

OldEnglish on November 16, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Just Holden on — yours is coming.

unclesmrgol on November 16, 2009 at 10:00 AM

this little American had roast beef
and this American had none

mmmmm mmmmm mmmmm

bluegrass on November 16, 2009 at 10:00 AM

News Flash: The Obama administration is floating the concept that instead of an IRS tax refund, those expecting money back from any overpayment of 2009 taxes will receive a special government check that can only be used for buying a GM car.

Uniblogger on November 16, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Don’t bother asking Gibbs, he’s useless as far as I can tell.

cs89 on November 16, 2009 at 9:38 AM

Not true. Gibbs provides comic relief in these dire times. You never know what stupid thing is going to escape from his lips next.

highhopes on November 16, 2009 at 10:01 AM

same old song and dance

We need a new bandleader

bluegrass on November 16, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Uniblogger on November 16, 2009 at 10:01 AM

That would definitely lead to outright revolt in the US.

highhopes on November 16, 2009 at 10:02 AM

None of these bailouts has quite gone right, have they? It’s not just the senior creditors who suffered here — it was the stockholders too. Think of millions of oldfolk who bet their retirements on the Rock of Gibralter that was GM. Obama sent in his version of the Marines to take it, and this is what we have.

Like the first commenter, I will never, ever, buy a GM car again. The unions can go sit in the sun and scratch fleas.

And that goes for Fiat/Chrysler too.

unclesmrgol on November 16, 2009 at 10:03 AM

For anyone old enough to remember, Ross Perot predicted all of this sh*t.

bluegrass on November 16, 2009 at 10:04 AM

Two of the Saturn dealerships in the Houston area have already closed. I’m a Saturn owner and received a notice in the mail offering HUGE discounts on a trade-in. What good would it do if the auto maker is going out of business. Buying a car isn’t the same as buying clothing on clearance.

GM’s new 60-day test drive program and loading up their vehicles with bells and whistles, as well as finally deciding to increase MPG this late in the game is too little, too late.

Once again, I’ll say, I’ll never buy another American car.

madmonkphotog on November 16, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Obambi probably has an idea to put GM’s stock in an institution called “The West Bank”.

Cybergeezer on November 16, 2009 at 10:05 AM

None of these bailouts has quite gone right, have they? It’s not just the senior creditors who suffered here — it was the stockholders too. Think of millions of oldfolk who bet their retirements on the Rock of Gibralter that was GM. Obama sent in his version of the Marines to take it, and this is what we have.

Like the first commenter, I will never, ever, buy a GM car again. The unions can go sit in the sun and scratch fleas.

And that goes for Fiat/Chrysler too.

unclesmrgol on November 16, 2009 at 10:03 AM

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My sentaments exactly

bluegrass on November 16, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Funny, you’ve got Duhobama overseas promising not to borrow anymore at such a fast rate and GM is using the borrowed money overseas.
I really have not paid alot of attention to the one world government theories but this stuff is getting more and more circular.

ORconservative on November 16, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Obambi probably has an idea to put GM’s stock in an institution called “The West Bank”.

Cybergeezer on November 16, 2009 at 10:05 AM

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I wouldn’t doubt that at all, then he could just have his freinds place the IED’s directly in the automobile instead of digging up our highway system

bluegrass on November 16, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Actually, I’m doing my damnest not to buy a car again until the America I remember comes back.

ORconservative on November 16, 2009 at 10:08 AM

ABC News reports that GM plans to spend billions restructuring its Opel subsidiary

Correction: I think you mean “millions”.

KS Rex on November 16, 2009 at 10:09 AM

But he gonna spend next year, he stated so publicly.

Let me be clear. The man never lies!

bluegrass on November 16, 2009 at 10:10 AM

This would only make sense if your intention was tofurther weaken destroy the US economy and thus further weaken destroy the US…

rbj on November 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Just about right, my friend. Just a bit of editing – I hope you don’t mind.

Cloward Piven in action. Works great, doesn’t it?

turfmann on November 16, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Obama has now finally created jobs… only not in this country.

Done with our stolen money.

profitsbeard on November 16, 2009 at 10:15 AM

I should hope at the very least GM is sinking money into Opel to then begin rebadging Opels as Chevys and selling them in the States.

Spc Steve on November 16, 2009 at 9:46 AM

See: current Chevy Malibu, Saturn (RIP) Aura, etc., etc. These are Opels (designed in Germany, assembled in the USA), as are some other GM current and future products, and are the better for it. These preceded the Traitor-in-Chief’s government takeover of the company.

GM has been an international company since the 1930s. Ditto Ford, which uses Mazda and Volvo platforms for some of its cars.

Saving Opel gives GM products to sell around the world. That gives the company a chance to make money and therefore survive. People — like Weiner and, in this instance, Ed — who shoot off their mouths without understanding what’s going on don’t help.

MrScribbler on November 16, 2009 at 10:15 AM

How long before construction starts on the new GM plants in Iran and Venezuela?

HotJavaJack on November 16, 2009 at 10:16 AM

How long before construction starts on the new GM plants in Iran and Venezuela?

HotJavaJack on November 16, 2009 at 10:16 AM

The mullahs are covertly working to adapt centrifuges to a new kind of rotary engine…

profitsbeard on November 16, 2009 at 10:19 AM

The equivalent of an automotive bow to the world.

bloggless on November 16, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Saving Opel gives GM products to sell around the world. That gives the company a chance to make money and therefore survive. People — like Weiner and, in this instance, Ed — who shoot off their mouths without understanding what’s going on don’t help.

MrScribbler on November 16, 2009 at 10:15 AM

So the American worker and the American investortaxpayer will once again prosper if Obowa sells more Opels?

HotJavaJack on November 16, 2009 at 10:25 AM

and how do the UAW reps and labor friends on the GM Board feel about this? are they gonna ship those UAW workers from Detroit to Europe to do OPEL work?

heh maroons

ginaswo on November 16, 2009 at 9:44 AM

My guess is that none of them give a squirt of piss. They’re still gonna get paid.

BigWyo on November 16, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Ed,

Didn’t GM spend $1 BILLION of taxpayer bail-out money on their plant in Brazil?

TN Mom on November 16, 2009 at 10:28 AM

That gives the company a chance to make money and therefore survive. People — like Weiner and, in this instance, Ed — who shoot off their mouths without understanding what’s going on don’t help.

MrScribbler on November 16, 2009 at 10:15 AM

We’d all be celebrating GM’s freedom to do business as they see fit in the competitive international marketplace, except that they proposed and consummated an incestuous relationship with the US Gov’t. They’re spending taxpayer money, not profit or GM stockholder money. Did you miss that little nugget?

TexasDan on November 16, 2009 at 10:28 AM

How long until GM starts mass producing one model of Volga and only changes the body style every 10-15 years?

Kelligan on November 16, 2009 at 10:29 AM

GM is looking out for it own interest. They no that their operations in America are bankrupt. There is no way around it, without a real bankruptcy GM will never be profitable in America so why would they use their capital to “save” it? Capital is attrated to places that can show a return. China and Opel have a better chance thatn America.

Theworldisnotenough on November 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM

Why can’t we keep American jobs and American money in America?

Dark-Star on November 16, 2009 at 10:32 AM

Hey Pookie! Don’t look now, but Obama is spending a lot of stash on GM & GMAC…

TN Mom on November 16, 2009 at 10:38 AM

So the American worker and the American investortaxpayer will once again prosper if Obowa sells more Opels?

HotJavaJack on November 16, 2009 at 10:25 AM

The Chevy Malibu (Opel) is assembled in the U.S.

Why can’t we keep American jobs and American money in America?

Dark-Star on November 16, 2009 at 10:32 AM

One word: unions. Osama Obama paid off his union pals by cutting them in on every deal he makes.

MrScribbler on November 16, 2009 at 10:38 AM

MrScribbler on November 16, 2009 at 10:38 AM

I was referring to the economy in general, not just the car industry. Unless everything is as plagued with bad unions as they are, which I doubt, I don’t think you can extend the example quite that far.

Dark-Star on November 16, 2009 at 10:45 AM

Americans are getting tired of being ripped off by both big business and the federal government.

Aspiring candidates, here is your question: How much taxpayer stimulus/bailout money has gone overseas?

No one in government can account for that total?

I guess it’s time to get some people in there who can!

Every penny that has gone overseas should be refunded to U.S. taxpayers who have been ripped off by those who voted for the stimulus and the bailouts and by the “Duke of Earl” who fronted for the whole mess: BHO.

Stepan on November 16, 2009 at 10:45 AM

GM shocked the Germans by doing a 180 and reversing its decision to sell Opel. The German government has given GM Opel its own bailout of billions of Euros, with the condition that it sell off Opel. Problem was: the only viable buyer was a partnership of Magna ( Canadian parts maker and co-builder of Ford Focus EV ) and Sberbank, the Russians. They were worried about losing control of their patents on Voltec. The Opel version of the Chevy Volt is called the Ampera. Now the Germans want their bailout money returned immediately. GM is doing that but wants the Bundesrepublik to kick in a lesser amount of money ( still billions ) than it was willing to give Magna / Sberbank to restructure Opel.

Also, GM is still losing money domestically, although not as bad as expected. Overseas is where profits are coming in for GM. And as Stuart Varney said this morning on Fox the devalued dollar enhances overseas profits when they’re brought back.

silverfox on November 16, 2009 at 10:46 AM

General Motors Co. says it lost $1.2 billion from the time it left bankruptcy protection through Sept. 30, far better than previous quarters and a sign that the auto giant is starting to turn around.

I wonder how much that far better than previous quarters loss was affected by the one-time pop of Cash for Chowderheads?

I R A Darth Aggie on November 16, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Don’t some of those millions belong to us taxpayers?

scalleywag on November 16, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Nooooo, didn’t you hear that Obama has a stash?

moonsbreath on November 16, 2009 at 10:51 AM

Didn`t Obama give the United Auto Workers control about 65 percent of Chrysler and 17.5 percent of General Motors for basically doing nothing?

That is a bigger travesty than investing in plants and businsess overseas that have a good chance of making profits which are potentially return any profits to the US.

albill on November 16, 2009 at 10:53 AM

Just Holden on — yours is coming.

unclesmrgol on November 16, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Heh! beaudy!

OldEnglish on November 16, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Remember nothing that Obama and Pelosi do is aimed at helping the USA’s economic condition. In fact, the worse the economy is doing the better for their plans of central power in government.

How’s that change and hope working out for you?

jukin on November 16, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Hmmm. Ford refuses bailout and subsequently makes $1 billion. GM accepts bailout and loses $1 billion.

John Deaux on November 16, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Governments by default can never work out good solutions to problems. I learned that and the reasons for it in sociology 101.

Governments have several things working against them in this regard.

First they are organized into committees of people with zero knowledge of the problem space.

Second, all their decisions are bolixed compromises.

Third, their decisions are always made to support the lowest common denominator.

Fourth all their decisions are made for political reasons.

Have you ever seen the movie about the Bradley Troop carrier? Its called “The Pentagon Wars”. It illustrates how politicians design things and why they should not be allowed to.

Why aren’t the unions screaming about GM shipping jobs out of the country? Oh thats right, the union leadership is bought and paid for.

dogsoldier on November 16, 2009 at 11:09 AM

…and get their Obama money.

JoeinTX on November 16, 2009 at 9:43 AM

Well, just ask the people in Detroit, who were standing in line a few months ago to get some OBAMA MONEY.

Reporter: “So, where’s Obama getting the money?”

Woman-in-line:”I don’t know; from his stash?”

Crowd-in-line: “Yeah. OBAMA! OBAMA! OBAMA!”

Yep, right from his stash, expropriated from the working taxpayer.

Yoop on November 16, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Another irony is that the only decent seller they have had is a muscle car. Not a new green machine, leading the way toward energy independence. lol

joedoe on November 16, 2009 at 11:13 AM

GM is going to fail here in the US, I think. I’m pretty sure the taxpayers are fed up with them. That’s why they are taking the money and running. Who’s going to stop them Zero? Ya right.

Brat4life on November 16, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Hmmm. Ford refuses bailout and subsequently makes $1 billion. GM accepts bailout and loses $1 billion.

John Deaux on November 16, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Obama stimulated the thinking person to buy Ford. Isn’t that neat?

Yoop on November 16, 2009 at 11:14 AM

A smart and swift GOP could exploit this situation. The hard left isn’t exactly comfortable with large corporations being subsidized by the government. GM and the auto manufacturers may be a exception because of the labor ownership but the banks and investment companies that have received untold billions are no darling to the radical Left.

A smart and swift GOP would take these gifts to industry and try to create a fracture the Left’s constituency.

chimney sweep on November 16, 2009 at 11:16 AM

I couldn’t resist putting in another 2 cents. I will never buy a product that gives a dime to the UAW. Sorry Ford. I like your products but I just can’t see supporting the Marxists pulling the strings at the UAW. Show some backbone and stand up to the union bosses and I’ll reconsider. I’ve owned 2 Fords in the past and was very happy with them.
 
I’ve owned 5 GM products over the years and was happy with every one of them. I’ll never own another as long as I live — which may not be quite as long now that Pelosicare/Obamacare are looming on the horizon.

ClanDerson on November 16, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Unemployment 10.2% and let’s send jobs across the pond.

BigMike252 on November 16, 2009 at 11:18 AM

They’re going with the old “$1 to GM $1 to Union Bosses Acounting Standards”

Rbastid on November 16, 2009 at 11:19 AM

Communism 101-…Car line, bread line, healthcare line, welfare line.

Johan Klaus on November 16, 2009 at 11:22 AM

http://www.dailyfinance.com/category/company-news/

An article about Ikea. OT but it goes to show that if a company is willing to spout the green line a whole multitude of sins can be covered up.

ORconservative on November 16, 2009 at 11:31 AM

Well, just ask the people in Detroit, who were standing in line a few months ago to get some OBAMA MONEY.

Reporter: “So, where’s Obama getting the money?”

Woman-in-line:”I don’t know; from his stash?”

Crowd-in-line: “Yeah. OBAMA! OBAMA! OBAMA!”

Yep, right from his stash, expropriated from the working taxpayer.

Yoop on November 16, 2009 at 11:12 AM

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Glen Beck played this clip for his conservative black audience last week and the response was good. We just need to keep the teabag movement alive and this scumbag and this congress will be history.

bluegrass on November 16, 2009 at 11:33 AM

As an American taxpaying stock holder can anyone tell me how to figure my rate of return on my investment?

bluegrass on November 16, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Can you draw a circle? Good; now add a ‘percent sign’ after it.

Midas on November 16, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Obama’s stash is the only thing keeping Detroit afloat. The funny part is that the rest of the country ought to be furious. There was no hurricane, there was no terror attack. There were years of uninterrupted liberal control AND, affirmative action everywhere possible that pushed many out of the city and the mayor welcomed that. Much like Nagin’s chocolate city.
This is pure Democrat votes for years and years to come. Obama and his stash will definitely keep Detroit alive. They need the votes.

ORconservative on November 16, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Bought votes will end when the dollar supply to this deadbeats stops. We stopped welfare in the nineties and look what happended. Now look at what hope n change socialism will do for you.

Joe the plumber and Sarah Palin gets it but not the deadbeat crowd that wants the government to pay for their mortgage, their car, their food, their utilities.

And the media and the pres & the media with his 70 car escort are sniffing asses in Asia. Transforming America.

bluegrass on November 16, 2009 at 11:52 AM

Sweet land of commodities for thee I sing

bluegrass on November 16, 2009 at 11:53 AM

The Democrats in Michigan supported this with every fiber of their being, since “saving” GM would “save” the state. I find it rather ironic that it hasn’t helped Michigan at all. More ineffective leadership from Governor Granholm, if only she could be impeached….

shibumi on November 16, 2009 at 12:25 PM

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