Video: “Avatar” trailer

posted at 6:45 pm on November 15, 2009 by Allahpundit

Via Ace, the gripping tale of an American soldier who falls in love with a native woman, joins her tribe, and then wages war against the encroaching Yankee oppressor. In other words, it’s “Dances With Wolves” with some “Aliens” thrown in (Giovanni Ribisi in the Paul Reiser role?) and a few Endor-type battle scenes. Oh, and half a billion dollars in special effects. Enjoy.

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If only they would bow to each other…

Seven Percent Solution on November 15, 2009 at 7:43 PM

Is Sean Penn in this?

bloggless on November 15, 2009 at 7:37 PM

Papa smurf?

jdkchem on November 15, 2009 at 7:44 PM

The issue isn’t the fact the story been said over and over…the issue is they are retelling a lame story.
Classic stories get repackaged all the time…thats why we have Arch types.

Conservative Voice on November 15, 2009 at 7:37 PM

There’s the issue at hand. They can use the same basic story over and over again, but they need to have actual talent and ability to do so. And not tell a love story about total a-holes in doing it.

The perfect example is The English Patient – I was told that it was supposed to be the modern version of Casablanca (doomed love story set in WWII). Instead I got a pantscrappingly boring movie about two extremely selfish people who betrayed their nation (to the Nazis!) and her spouse and frankly deserved whatever they got…..

mjk on November 15, 2009 at 7:44 PM

Unfortunately… I’m going to probably see it in the theaters anyway. Former Marine + (in love with live action + CGI + explosions) = worth 9.50

I’ll make sure to boo in all the appropriate places for you Hot Air folks, don’t worry.

Living4Him5534 on November 15, 2009 at 7:45 PM

Though, watching this movie makes me wish Starcraft II was out already.

lorien1973 on November 15, 2009 at 7:45 PM

This looks horrible. No way would I waste my money on this crap when I could just play Video Games which look better, have better plots and are fully interactive.

Put his whacko leftist Politics aside, I can deal with that in great movies like The Abyss (humans are a menace, blah, blah) or Terminator (Humans again are a menace, blah, blah) but this movie is completely off my radar.

Daemonocracy on November 15, 2009 at 7:46 PM

Finally, AP, a movie about Marines that Code Pink can be proud off.

El Coqui on November 15, 2009 at 7:46 PM

Wow. You people need to lighten up. Just go see the movie and enjoy it, or don’t.

DaveS on November 15, 2009 at 7:46 PM

I hated Star Trek, until I saw “The Wrath of Kahn”. Ricardo Montalban had some amazing pecs. After watching that movie, I finally understood what fine Corythian Leather really was.

bloggless on November 15, 2009 at 7:42 PM

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but that was a prosthetic (i think that’s what it’s called, it was fake) chest he was wearing.

clearbluesky on November 15, 2009 at 7:46 PM

How about Good Americans take the $30.00 they would spend on this crap and send it to a group that supports our troops?

bloggless on November 15, 2009 at 7:47 PM

clearbluesky on November 15, 2009 at 7:46 PM

You lie!

lorien1973 on November 15, 2009 at 7:48 PM

I thought you play video games, not watch them.

reaganaut on November 15, 2009 at 7:37 PM

reaganaut:I don’t mind playing video games,but only if its
Call of Duty,or Halo where the enemy is clear.

Theres no way I will ever play a game such as
this!:)

canopfor on November 15, 2009 at 7:48 PM

If you have to mention Terminator, Aliens, T2 and Titanic to legitimize a movie, it must be a Waterworld-level stinker.

spmat on November 15, 2009 at 7:48 PM

I hated Star Trek, until I saw “The Wrath of Kahn”. Ricardo Montalban had some amazing pecs. After watching that movie, I finally understood what fine Corythian Leather really was.

bloggless on November 15, 2009 at 7:42 PM

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but that was a prosthetic (i think that’s what it’s called, it was fake) chest he was wearing.

clearbluesky on November 15, 2009 at 7:46 PM

Do you know where I can buy one?

bloggless on November 15, 2009 at 7:48 PM

I so get it. Military bad, aliens good. Gotcha.

Mojave Mark on November 15, 2009 at 7:50 PM

It is ironic that Hollywood spends all of its time bashing a parody of America for its ruthless (cartoonish) capitalism, short sightedness, and abuse of “the other”.

Why is this ironic?

Because Hollywood is ruthlessly (cartoonly) capitalist, short sighted, and abuses “the other”.

For example, consider Hollywood prince of virtue, Roman Polanski.

18-1 on November 15, 2009 at 7:50 PM

You lie!

lorien1973 on November 15, 2009 at 7:48 PM

Well, according to Wiki, you’re right. It was all him.

clearbluesky on November 15, 2009 at 7:50 PM

Do you know where I can buy one?

bloggless on November 15, 2009 at 7:48 PM

Heh, looks like i was mistaken, he didn’t use a fake chest according to Wiki.

clearbluesky on November 15, 2009 at 7:51 PM

Had zero interest in it and after the snippets of trailer I’ve seen…….my interest is now somewhere in the negative numbers.

JoeinTX on November 15, 2009 at 7:51 PM

Finally, AP, a movie about Marines that Code Pink can be proud off.

El Coqui on November 15, 2009 at 7:46 PM

El Coqui: Even tho,its a movie,PETA and the EL Code Pinkos
will probably protest at recruitment centres over
this Avatar movie!!

Thats how nuts these groups are!

canopfor on November 15, 2009 at 7:51 PM

TheQuestion on November 15, 2009 at 7:41 PM

Hell, get rid of the natives nothing. If they’ve the technology to create these avatars that look like the natives, why can’t they negotiate and ask them to help? You know, negotiate, grant them a percentage of the gross – just like a top name actor!

Of course that would be the most lame movie ever.

JeffWeimer on November 15, 2009 at 7:52 PM

There’s the issue at hand. They can use the same basic story over and over again, but they need to have actual talent and ability to do so. And not tell a love story about total a-holes in doing it.

mjk on November 15, 2009 at 7:44 PM

Why am I suddenly reminded of the new Star Wars movies versus the old ones?

18-1 on November 15, 2009 at 7:52 PM

Gosh, I wonder how it will end?
Like, really hard to figure that one out.
Guess they just need reinforce the evil greedy capitalist pilgrim/soldiers coming to the New World to exploit/kill peaceful primitive tribe for their gold/oil/land/rare rocks message out to all those young 9-12 year olds and their parents.
You know, the ones who think Bush killed the polar bears.
Creativity is dead in Hollywood. One more victim of PC.

JellyToast on November 15, 2009 at 7:53 PM

Heh, looks like i was mistaken, he didn’t use a fake chest according to Wiki.

clearbluesky on November 15, 2009 at 7:51 PM

So, now The Wrath of Kahn is upon you.

bloggless on November 15, 2009 at 7:53 PM

I hope this movie fails so hard.

Blarg the Destroyer on November 15, 2009 at 7:53 PM

Ryan Anthony on November 15, 2009 at 6:52 PM

As long as they are exterminated like in the South Park episode, I am fine with it… Providing, once again, that genocide is a viable solution to any problem.

GW_SS-Delta on November 15, 2009 at 7:55 PM

Cameron stole the idea from Cartman!

“Dances with smurfs” indeed.

McBaine on November 15, 2009 at 7:55 PM

I think it is really wierd that adults go to a cartoon movie.

bloggless on November 15, 2009 at 7:55 PM

Well, according to Wiki, you’re right. It was all him.

clearbluesky on November 15, 2009 at 7:50 PM

I didn’t honestly know. I didn’t want my childhood destroyed like that, that’s all. LOL

Khan is my favorite character, ever. :P

Without Moby Dick, Star Wars loses like 4 movies.

lorien1973 on November 15, 2009 at 7:55 PM

There will probably be a disclaimer at the end of it saying no harm to trees or animals depicted in this movie are real.

fourdeucer on November 15, 2009 at 7:55 PM

Oha nd a quick reminder, The AMC mini-series The Prisoner starring Jim Caviezel and Ian McKellen starts tonight at 8:00 pm EST.

Daemonocracy on November 15, 2009 at 7:56 PM

bloggless on November 15, 2009 at 7:42 PM

.
Your realize they were latex right?

ronsfi on November 15, 2009 at 7:57 PM

Dances with Wolves? Sounds more like Obamaworld.

bloggless on November 15, 2009 at 6:47 PM

Do they destroy the Debt Star in the end?

18-1 on November 15, 2009 at 7:58 PM

I might be wrong,and I’ve see the trailers,but isn’t this
another evil US Military narrative that Hollywood is trotting out once again!!

canopfor on November 15, 2009 at 7:36 PM

Hey, not everyone in Hollywood has the guts to spit on a soldier physically, some of them need to get more creative…

18-1 on November 15, 2009 at 8:01 PM

How about they come out with Heavy Metal 3,

starring SarahCuda as Taarna,battling the ObamaVoterBots!!

canopfor on November 15, 2009 at 8:04 PM

Though, watching this movie makes me wish Starcraft II was out already.
lorien1973 on November 15, 2009 at 7:45 PM

Sorry lorien1973, if I’m not mistaken it is permanently coming out “next November”. Next November will restart the clock. I’ve given up and consoled myself with Brood War.

By the way. Looks like Groundhog Day for Diablo III as well.

rihar on November 15, 2009 at 8:04 PM

bloggless on November 15, 2009 at 7:42 PM

.
Your realize they were latex right?

ronsfi on November 15, 2009 at 7:57 PM

He had implants?

bloggless on November 15, 2009 at 8:05 PM

I might be wrong,and I’ve see the trailers,but isn’t this
another evil US Military narrative that Hollywood is trotting out once again!!

canopfor on November 15, 2009 at 7:36 PM
—————————————-

Hey, not everyone in Hollywood has the guts to spit on a soldier physically, some of them need to get more creative…

18-1 on November 15, 2009 at 8:01 PM

18-1:No sh*t,bunch of pr*cks!!:)

canopfor on November 15, 2009 at 8:07 PM

I’d like to see those hollywood libs spit on Kahn. BTW, was he a space muslim?

bloggless on November 15, 2009 at 8:09 PM

:lol Dunno…it seems like a bash America first analogy movie.
Aliens at least put the Marines in a decent light…. of course that was in the Reagan era…..

dec5 on November 15, 2009 at 8:10 PM


How about Good Americans take the $30.00 they would spend on this crap and send it to a group that supports our troops?

– Bloggless

Great idea! Operation Gratitude and Soldier’s Angels are the best!

Tony737 on November 15, 2009 at 8:11 PM

Do they destroy the Debt Star in the end?

18-1 on November 15, 2009 at 7:58 PM

Ahhh…the Debt Star

Obama: Set course for the Economy system!
Rahm: With pleasure.
Obama: Now witness the power of this fully armed and operational Marxist station! *Thumbs intercomm* Fire at will, Axelrod!
*Debt Star vaporizes the economy*
Obama: Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.

Anyways, what were we talking about? :D

SG1_Conservative on November 15, 2009 at 8:12 PM

seems usual anti-america/anti-military/anti-corporation movie. but i might be wrong. not.

hayek2009 on November 15, 2009 at 8:13 PM

rihar on November 15, 2009 at 8:04 PM

I’ve gotten that feeling too. I think blizzard makes so much money on WoW, everything else is on the back shelf.

lorien1973 on November 15, 2009 at 8:14 PM

Politics aside, it looks like an amazing movie. Seriously. It’s gonna look sweet on Blu-Ray

jonezee on November 15, 2009 at 8:15 PM

bloggless on November 15, 2009 at 8:05 PM

Khan’s pecs were real. He’ll crush your head between them as proof. And then sleep with your wife.

lorien1973 on November 15, 2009 at 8:15 PM

Am I the only one who thinks this movie looks really, really stupid and that the CGI is less than impressive? Maybe it’s just me, but if not for the media hype, I feel like this is something you’d expect to see go straight to DVD… Something you’d never hear of until you see it in the $4 bin at Walmart.

Also, anything with Michelle Rodriquez is destined for suckiness.

Now, my real beef with this and most alien movies… Even if you believe in evolution, as we are all expected to, the idea that aliens would be humanoid types is ridiculous. The ies that other planets would have evolved beings that have 2 hands, arms, ears, eyes, a mouth for speaking, etc. is ridiculous, and ruins movies as well as abduction stories for me.

Anyway, I am genuinely asking if anyone out there feels the way I do about the CGI, etc. Why am I so unimpressed?

RightWinged on November 15, 2009 at 8:17 PM

Anyway, I am genuinely asking if anyone out there feels the way I do about the CGI, etc. Why am I so unimpressed?

RightWinged on November 15, 2009 at 8:17 PM

Because the pixar cartoons look more life like?

lorien1973 on November 15, 2009 at 8:18 PM

Do they destroy the Debt Star in the end?

18-1 on November 15, 2009 at 7:58 PM

18-1: It was as simple as firing a tire gauge straight down
the exhaust vent,which lead to the printing pressroom
for greenbacks,setting off a chain reaction,which swep
t through the entire DEBTSTAR,torching ACORN troop sta
tions along the way,and then in a cataclysmic kablewy
and taking out the entire LibToid Leadership!!
(Snark):)

canopfor on November 15, 2009 at 8:18 PM

Anyway, I am genuinely asking if anyone out there feels the way I do about the CGI, etc. Why am I so unimpressed?

RightWinged on November 15, 2009 at 8:17 PM

Think creationism, alien style.

bloggless on November 15, 2009 at 8:18 PM

CGI = Cartoon Graphic Innovation?

bloggless on November 15, 2009 at 8:19 PM

That trailer reminds me of this goose egg.

mizflame98 on November 15, 2009 at 8:22 PM

rihar on November 15, 2009 at 8:04 PM
I’ve gotten that feeling too. I think blizzard makes so much money on WoW, everything else is on the back shelf.
lorien1973 on November 15, 2009 at 8:14 PM

good point. Since I don’t play that money pit of a game I didn’t think of that. That didn’t sound too cynical did it?

rihar on November 15, 2009 at 8:22 PM

This movie looks horrible. Sorry.

therightwinger on November 15, 2009 at 8:32 PM

I don’t know, the battle scenes look pretty cool and I will freely admit that I could watch a three hour movie which is nothing but combat.

I’m sure my boys will be monkey-screeching-clawing on me if I don’t take them to see it, so I’m going whether I want to or not.

Bishop on November 15, 2009 at 8:34 PM

Apparently the whole film is in high def 3D. For that reason I’ll be checking it out. Who cares if it’s a lame story?

alteredbeat on November 15, 2009 at 8:36 PM

I have a weakness for blue women with big yellow moon eyes so I will definitely be going to see this.

Rod on November 15, 2009 at 8:43 PM

“…falls in love with a native woman…”

Smurfette!

Bill C on November 15, 2009 at 8:43 PM

Can anyone tell me what is the deal with the nose going right into the frontal lobe cover? Serious. I see that on lots of so called alien creatures. What is that about? Help.

jarhead0311 on November 15, 2009 at 8:45 PM

The liberal’s view of a just war is so cute!!

GTR640 on November 15, 2009 at 8:46 PM

My teen son says it looks like “Pocahontas in Space”.

Rod on November 15, 2009 at 8:48 PM

Looks like something I will might grab out of the dvd sin bin for 1.99 in February!

Freddy on November 15, 2009 at 9:00 PM

NOT THAT GRIPPING.

ParisParamus on November 15, 2009 at 9:01 PM

How about Good Americans take the $30.00 they would spend on this crap and send it to a group that supports our troops?

bloggless on November 15, 2009 at 7:47 PM

I like!!

4shoes on November 15, 2009 at 9:02 PM

How about Good Americans take the $30.00 they would spend on this crap and send it to a group that supports our troops?

bloggless on November 15, 2009 at 7:47 PM

Ever see The Great Raid? A great war movie, made only a few years ago. The studios did their best to kill it though since it portrayed our military in a positive light.

18-1 on November 15, 2009 at 9:04 PM

CGI meta-Smurfs?

I’ll pass.

Ask The Dust“, from 2006, with Selma Hayek is worth a watch.

Based On John Fante’s cult classic novel.

profitsbeard on November 15, 2009 at 9:05 PM

If you just watch the trailer on the PC the CGI looks like crap. However, seeing it on the big screen is a totally different story.

I’ll see it because James Cameron directed it and he’s excellent with epics.

Still, I wouldn’t be surprised if Captain Planet and the Planeteers show up.

DethMetalCookieMonst on November 15, 2009 at 9:06 PM

My teen son says it looks like “Pocahontas in Space”.

Rod on November 15, 2009 at 8:48 PM

LOL. Your teen son is awesome!

mjk on November 15, 2009 at 9:07 PM

Ever see The Great Raid? A great war movie, made only a few years ago. The studios did their best to kill it though since it portrayed our military in a positive light.

18-1 on November 15, 2009 at 9:04 PM

It’s a good movie? I’ll have to rent it or buy it or whatever.

mjk on November 15, 2009 at 9:08 PM

How about Good Americans take the $30.00 they would spend on this crap and send it to a group that supports our troops?

bloggless on November 15, 2009 at 7:47 PM

Ever see The Great Raid? A great war movie, made only a few years ago. The studios did their best to kill it though since it portrayed our military in a positive light.

18-1 on November 15, 2009 at 9:04 PM

Why would they make it and then try to kill it? that makes no sense.

bloggless on November 15, 2009 at 9:08 PM

If you like this you’ll love Matt Damon’s next film Green Zone- from what I can gather watching the trailer he spends the movie killing US Special Forces servicemen and shooting down US Army helicopters.

We’re in the middle of a war with some of the most barbaric, ruthless mass murderers known to man, and Hollywood makes a movie about a weapons inspector fighting against America’s finest?

Jay Mac on November 15, 2009 at 9:10 PM

RightWinged on November 15, 2009 at 8:17 PM

This is actually a debate that is out there, humanoid, or all over the map kind of development. If I understand the argument, certain types of planets and ecologies naturally develop a humanoid type of body. I think of it like with rivers, they naturally flow where the land takes them, then they reshape the land as they go. Or something like that.

bikermailman on November 15, 2009 at 9:12 PM

If you like this you’ll love Matt Damon’s next film Green Zone- from what I can gather watching the trailer he spends the movie killing US Special Forces servicemen and shooting down US Army helicopters.

We’re in the middle of a war with some of the most barbaric, ruthless mass murderers known to man, and Hollywood makes a movie about a weapons inspector fighting against America’s finest?

Jay Mac on November 15, 2009 at 9:10 PM

Seriously? Lord, no wonder why I don’t go to movies anymore.

mjk on November 15, 2009 at 9:13 PM

From wiki:

The movie was shot in 2002 but it was pulled from release schedule on several occasions. It was finally released in August 2005, by Miramax Films, which coincided with the formal departure of co-founders Bob and Harvey Weinstein from the company.

Based on the time frame, I’d say the Weinsteins were just a little faster then the rest of the Left in turning on the military…

18-1 on November 15, 2009 at 9:13 PM

Seriously, do these people in hollyweird ever get tired of painting our military as the bad guys? Or Americans in general? I’ll answer my own question, apparently not, but I am not into giving up my money to see this fancy propaganda.

4shoes on November 15, 2009 at 9:15 PM

It’s a good movie? I’ll have to rent it or buy it or whatever.

mjk on November 15, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Yes – it is a good movie I’d highly suggest watching it. It also covers part of WWII that few people learn anymore.

18-1 on November 15, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Ever see The Great Raid? A great war movie, made only a few years ago. The studios did their best to kill it though since it portrayed our military in a positive light.

18-1 on November 15, 2009 at 9:04 PM

My husband and I just finished watching the 7 part series by HBO called “Generation Kill”. It was about the Recon Marines sent into Iraq in 2003. If you haven’t seen it, I recommend it.

4shoes on November 15, 2009 at 9:23 PM

Am I the only one who thinks this movie looks really, really stupid and that the CGI is less than impressive?

Probably not, but I certainly can’t agree with you. I remember the first picture I saw of this. I wasn’t sure at the time if the entire movie was CGI or if part of it was done with real people, even while looking at the picture. I don’t know how much most people here care about CGI, but it’s one of the main reasons I play the Final Fantasy games, and even they haven’t come this close to making it look real.

The story sounds stupid and is clearly stolen, but I’m sure I’ll watch it in the theater.

Maybe it’s just me, but if not for the media hype, I feel like this is something you’d expect to see go straight to DVD… Something you’d never hear of until you see it in the $4 bin at Walmart.

Nothing this expensive ever goes straight to the cheap DVD bins.

Also, anything with Michelle Rodriquez is destined for suckiness.

Resident Evil was an incredible video game movie. The second two, not so much.

Now, my real beef with this and most alien movies… Even if you believe in evolution, as we are all expected to, the idea that aliens would be humanoid types is ridiculous. The ies that other planets would have evolved beings that have 2 hands, arms, ears, eyes, a mouth for speaking, etc. is ridiculous, and ruins movies as well as abduction stories for me.

In our world we have four and even 100 legged creatures, but it’s clear that our body types are the ones destined to do things like make vehicles capable of leaving this planet and going to another one. It’s entirely logical that aliens on other planets would evolve similarly and that those who had appendages like we do and who could make stuff would also be their world’s ruler.

Anyway, I am genuinely asking if anyone out there feels the way I do about the CGI, etc. Why am I so unimpressed?

RightWinged on November 15, 2009 at 8:17 PM

Maybe you just don’t care for CGI. Personally, I can’t wait until it’s able to replace idiot actors so that Jim Carey can feel better about himself, as voice actors certainly don’t make 20 million a film.

Esthier on November 15, 2009 at 9:32 PM

The trailer looks terrible. The special effects don’t seem impressive and the storyline could not be less original: Evil Americans colonize a pristine land filled with noble savages and kill them off. A white liberal gets to fantasize about being a “person of color.” Yawn. I bet there are a lot of unintentional laughs in this movie.

Gabe on November 15, 2009 at 9:34 PM

Looks like a bunch of jar jar binks painted in blue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObcYgDZ9aqo

jaboba on November 15, 2009 at 9:37 PM

Dances with Smurfs cost 500 million for stupid fake-looking mechs.

District 9 out designed and outperformed their bio-suit with 30 million.

Lame.

darclon on November 15, 2009 at 9:38 PM

I’ll give another thumbs up for The Great Raid.

aikidoka on November 15, 2009 at 9:41 PM

There are things growing on my shower curtain that are more eager to see this movie than I am.

AaronGuzman on November 15, 2009 at 9:46 PM

Furries will be lined up around the theater corners to watch this. Hopefully they will refrain from yiffing while en queue.

Mephistefales on November 15, 2009 at 9:49 PM

I just noticed that these creatures are a major rip off of the tribal creatures from the Clone Wars animated mini-series.

Mephistefales on November 15, 2009 at 9:52 PM

From the comments here, I’m glad I’m not the only one who finds the “I support the troops” rhetoric from Hollyweird laughably hypocritical, when, every time they release a film about the military, the troops are always bloodthirsty/crazed/stupid/inbred/intolerant/yadda………

That “Brothers” movie is another piece of crap dressed up as art, too…..

HAnthonyWayne on November 15, 2009 at 10:00 PM

I’m waiting for the other Avatar movie, the one M. Night Shamalan is doing based on the cartoon (yes, cartoon) Avatar: The Last Airbender. It was a very well-thought out story that I enjoyed as much as my children – and the live-action version looks stunning.

This Avatar, while visually appealling, sounds like it’s nothing but a rip-off of every other love story meets anti-Americanism movie out there. With Smurfs. Thanks, but no thanks.

Anna on November 15, 2009 at 10:02 PM

I thought revenues were up…now we got to rate movies…WTF !

jerrytbg on November 15, 2009 at 10:06 PM

Wow. Tough crowd.

(Y’all are gonna love it! Me think-eth y’all protest-eth too much-eth.)

Woody-eth

woodcdi on November 15, 2009 at 10:14 PM

This movie will be a spectacular flop. It will not even bring in a third of the cost of making it.

Bikerken on November 15, 2009 at 10:18 PM

Sorry Mr.Cameron, I get enough of the “white guilt” vibe from the current President of the United States on a daily basis. Who needs a movies to tell me that we are in danger of hating natives and forests so much?

And the CG aliens….look like CG aliens. Not impressed. The dinosaurs in Jurassic Park, now THAT was mind-blowing. We’ve seen stuff like Avatar already.

And didn’t that actor pretty much play the same role in Terminator Salvation?

Dongemaharu on November 15, 2009 at 10:20 PM

The new movie “Planet 51″ is yet another analogy to the invasion of Iraq or some other Yankee imperialist venture. If you’d like to see a genuinely libertarian picture, see “Pirate Radio” in which the government is the oppressor.

NNtrancer on November 15, 2009 at 10:22 PM

This is actually a debate that is out there, humanoid, or all over the map kind of development. If I understand the argument, certain types of planets and ecologies naturally develop a humanoid type of body. I think of it like with rivers, they naturally flow where the land takes them, then they reshape the land as they go. Or something like that.

bikermailman on November 15, 2009 at 9:12 PM

That may be the debate, but it’s illogical.

In our world we have four and even 100 legged creatures, but it’s clear that our body types are the ones destined to do things like make vehicles capable of leaving this planet and going to another one. It’s entirely logical that aliens on other planets would evolve similarly and that those who had appendages like we do and who could make stuff would also be their world’s ruler.

Maybe you just don’t care for CGI. Personally, I can’t wait until it’s able to replace idiot actors so that Jim Carey can feel better about himself, as voice actors certainly don’t make 20 million a film.

Esthier on November 15, 2009 at 9:32 PM

I don’t mind CGI, I just feel like this is being hyped as something so impressive, yet I find it cheesy and fake looking. I’ve seen plenty of movies that use CGI and like it when it looks “real”, this just looks cartoonish.

As for the whole “they would evolve like us” thing, it still doesn’t make any sense unless you desperately want it to. Why would they have 2 eyes? Why wouldn’t they have a body that acts as one big eye that sees in all directions? Why wouldn’t they have 4 arms instead of 2? Why wouldn’t they have wings? I could go on, but if you aren’t getting the point already then I don’t suppose you ever will.

RightWinged on November 15, 2009 at 10:34 PM

Plan 10 From Outer Space?

James Cameron channels Ed Wood?

profitsbeard on November 15, 2009 at 11:02 PM

As for the whole “they would evolve like us” thing, it still doesn’t make any sense unless you desperately want it to. Why would they have 2 eyes? Why wouldn’t they have a body that acts as one big eye that sees in all directions? Why wouldn’t they have 4 arms instead of 2? Why wouldn’t they have wings? I could go on, but if you aren’t getting the point already then I don’t suppose you ever will.

RightWinged on November 15, 2009 at 10:34 PM

RW,

The easiest way to answer your questions is with another question: Why don’t we?

Looking at it from a purely evolutionary standpoint, and putting aside the fact that God made us in His image and it is likely that other species would ALSO be made in His image; (IE: Humanoid) Why don’t WE have multiple arms, or more than two eyes, or wings?

Simple: Because we didn’t need them as much as we needed a large brain. Making a large brain (in proportion to the rest of the body) means sacrificing other things like the extra muscles and bone and ligaments and literally yards of skin needed to make wings large enough to lift a species like ourselves off the ground.

It meant giving up such niceties as multiple eyes, and even the simple things like fangs and claws. We gave up ALL of what would normally be considered physical advantages for one critical thing, a large brain capable of complex thought. As Atheist Carl Sagan once said; “The simplest thought, like the concept of the number ‘one’ has an elaborate logical underpinning.” Our minds are truly marvels. (Which is what makes Liberalism such a tragedy. What a waste of such a marvel. Like wiping your arse with the Mona Lisa.)

But our incredible brains still needed tools with which to work. Thus our opposable thumbs, and hands which can grip and hold tools. Our ability to walk upright, to free our hands for gripping tools and defensive weapons, and the shift of our diet from vegetables to a balance of vegetables and meats. The easily digested proteins and amino-acids in meat build muscle and brain mass, making us smarter and stronger.

Everything about our bodies make us ideal for becoming the master of this planet. Any other planet with a similar eco-system will almost certainly produce other humanoids. Hopefully one day we will get to meet them. When that bright day finally comes, somehow I doubt that the outcome will be anything like this dreck movie, and much more like the future envisioned in the Dr. Who series where mankind goes out amongst the peoples of the universe…

and gets lucky.

;)

wearyman on November 15, 2009 at 11:18 PM

So, instead of cowboys and indians it’s marines and aliens. I suppose when I leave the theater I’m supposed to find the nearest indian tribe, express my severe grief over what happened to them, give them my land, and go back to europe. Pocahantas in space is right.

boomer on November 15, 2009 at 11:20 PM

Why do movie people continue to think that special effects is a substitute for plot? This same story has been done a million times.

lorien1973 on November 15, 2009 at 7:33 PM

These are the same people that thought smooth delivery of a speech from a teleprompter is a substitute for intelligence and experience. Thus we have President Obama.

knivek on November 15, 2009 at 11:21 PM

This is a ripoff of “The Word for World is Forest,” by Usula K. Leguin.

70′s hippie-dippie fantasy about the perfect “natural” world. Star Trek did a great job of parody of this idea in “The Way to Eden.”

Yes, I am a nerd.

bonnie_ on November 15, 2009 at 11:22 PM

“Dances With Wolves” with some “Aliens”?

My take: “Three Kings” + “Apocalypse Now” + HALO: Counter Strike

Okay, the HALO reference is kinda-sorta a mixed metaphor but it was the best I could come up with where the Covenant were the good guys and US troops were, of course, the bad guys.

Sailfish on November 15, 2009 at 11:28 PM

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