Quotes of the day
posted at 9:30 pm on November 14, 2009 by Allahpundit
“All in all, Ms. Palin emerges from ‘Going Rogue’ as an eager player in the blame game, thoroughly ungrateful toward the McCain campaign for putting her on the national stage. As for the McCain campaign, it often feels like a desperate and cynical operation, willing to make a risky Hail Mary pass in order to try to score a tactical win, instead of making a considered judgment as to who might be genuinely qualified to sit a heartbeat away from the Oval Office…
“Yet, Mr. McCain’s astonishing decision to pick someone with so little experience (less than two years as the governor of Alaska, and before that, two terms as mayor of Wasilla, a town with fewer than 7,000 residents) as his running mate and Ms. Palin’s own surprisingly nonchalant reaction to Mr. McCain’s initial phone call about the vice president’s slot (she writes that it felt “like a natural progression”) underscore just how alarmingly expertise is discounted — or equated with elitism — in our increasingly democratized era, and just how thoroughly colorful personal narratives overshadow policy arguments and actual knowledge.”
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“The Palin problem, then, might be that she cynically incites a crowd that she has no real intention of pleasing. If she were ever to get herself to the nation’s capital, the teabaggers would be just as much on the outside as they are now, and would simply have been the instruments that helped get her elected. In my own not-all-that-humble opinion, duping the hicks is a degree or two worse than condescending to them. It’s also much more dangerous, because it meanwhile involves giving a sort of respectability to ideas that were discredited when William Jennings Bryan was last on the stump. The Weekly Standard (itself not exactly a prairie-based publication) might want to think twice before flirting with popular delusions and resentments that are as impossible to satisfy as the demand for a silver standard or a ban on the teaching of Darwin, and are for that very reason hard to tamp down. Many of Palin’s admirers seem to expect that, on receipt of the Republican Party nomination, she would immediately embark on a crusade against Wall Street and the banks. This notion is stupid to much the same degree that it is irresponsible…
“Once again, one is compelled to ask which would be worse: a Sarah Palin who really meant what she merely seemed to say, or a Sarah Palin who would say anything at all for a cheap burst of applause?”
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An excellent capsule review of the reviews – though you left out the occasional reviewer who makes a point of liking it or pretending to like it for completely superficial or their own personal snarky reasons.
CK MacLeod on November 15, 2009 at 12:01 AM
It looks like a cool place. Here was our spot, it is gone now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L'amour_(venue) after hours we’d move on to the disco, where Saturday Night Fever was filmed.
njpat on November 15, 2009 at 12:01 AM
G’night, man
MeatHeadinCA on November 15, 2009 at 12:01 AM
Sorry, fool. Neither would be as bad as Barack Hussein Obama.
Basilsbest on November 15, 2009 at 12:01 AM
Sarah is so looked askance at by the teabaggers that she is slated to be the keynote speaker at their first convention in February 2010.
“If she is duping the hicks” you would have thought she would have appeared at the Washington DC rally on September 12th to gain more brownie points with the teabaggers.
Claiming that Sarah will abandon the teabaggers is like saying that Bill Belichick is just “using” Tom Brady for his own purposes.
Look up the definition of symbiosis. That is what we have here with the teabaggers and Sarah Palin and with Belichick and Brady.
technopeasant on November 15, 2009 at 12:03 AM
And we all know New Haven Connecticut blue bloods are totally in tune with American ideals. Stay out of my trailer Yankee fascist.
Err Err, I’m all wee wee’d up now!
:P
alohapundit on November 15, 2009 at 12:03 AM
And this!
NoLeftTurn on November 15, 2009 at 12:04 AM
I love reading Krauthammer too, but he’s been in the Beltway bubble for too long. He’s on the ball on a sort of macro scale, but he can be pretty tone-deaf when it comes to what people in flyover country really think and feel.
ddrintn on November 15, 2009 at 12:06 AM
In the words of AP, #bloggingfail
lorien1973 on November 15, 2009 at 12:07 AM
FTFY.
The Race Card on November 15, 2009 at 12:08 AM
If you buy into the NWO, Charles falls into the “elite media.” I just like to keep my eye on those they mention to see if they have similar tendencies.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/20723066/2009-F-R-E-E-Bilderberg-CFR-Trilateral-Commission-Chart
njpat on November 15, 2009 at 12:09 AM
What’s this supposed to be, an example of rapier wit? It came out more as a snarkass failure.
ddrintn on November 15, 2009 at 12:11 AM
Um, no.
ddrintn on November 15, 2009 at 12:11 AM
Um, yeah, Obama.
You walked into that one, NYT.
PattyJ on November 15, 2009 at 12:12 AM
Uh, you missed the last part of my statement. I watch to see if they have similar tendencies, never said I did or you did. There MAY be some reason that they identified them.
njpat on November 15, 2009 at 12:14 AM
Yeah, but not nearly as rude as talking down to them in the third person.
The Race Card on November 15, 2009 at 12:16 AM
Oh well, who is John Galt?
/s
alohapundit on November 15, 2009 at 12:17 AM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123146363567166677.html
njpat on November 15, 2009 at 12:20 AM
If you haven’t heard this yet, I think this tidbit from Going Rogue, if it is indeed true (printed in the Fairbanks Daily Miner today)reveals how honest and candid Sarah really is.
“Former Gov. Sarah Palin writes in her book that her son Track ADVISED HER NOT TO QUIT HER JOB AS GOVERNOR, Kate Snow of ABC writes today, Palin’s son told her, “Don’t let the jerks get you down.” His views was that you don’t quit. You don’t violate your contract. There is pain, you push through it, you stick it out,” Palin wrote in the book. Then he brought it home: ‘No dishonorable discharge. You only leave if it’s honorable–that means you MOVE UP TO SOMETHING MORE WORTHY.’ I asked if fighting through the bull so that I could reveal truth and fight for our state and our country was ‘more worthy’. I asked if breaking free of the bureaucratic shackles that were now paralyzing our state was worthy.’” I finally said out loud what I knew I had to do,” Palin said. “I’M NOT A QUITTER, Track,’I finished. ‘I’m going to fight. And that’s the point.’
technopeasant on November 15, 2009 at 12:20 AM
Riiiiight. Someone puts you on the national stage for the sole purpose of making conservatives look bad and she is supposed to thank McShamnesty for that?
This idiot would be out of a job if it weren’t for Sarah. He is the one who ought to be thanking McShamnesty for putting her on the ticket.
csdeven on November 15, 2009 at 12:20 AM
Nicely done. Touche!
alohapundit on November 15, 2009 at 12:21 AM
I think you’re missing the point. The more people see the absolute lunatic, unhinged, amoral fear of Sarah Palin from the Left the better. The Left (all inclusive) don’t understand America, much less Sarah Palin.
SouthernGent on November 15, 2009 at 12:21 AM
I can’t figure out if this is my favorite quote for today or the understatement of the year. Either way, I agree with you totally.
alohapundit on November 15, 2009 at 12:24 AM
Wow…just wow!
SouthernGent on November 15, 2009 at 12:26 AM
Nah Race Card thought I was gay last year. I’m not but do have a gay uncle and another uncle who died of AIDS.
Sapwolf on November 15, 2009 at 12:27 AM
I love the smell of the newsprint from Newsweek & the New York Times in the morning.
It smells like – fear.
Heh heh heh.
Bruno Strozek on November 15, 2009 at 12:28 AM
Am I the only one who gets the feeling that EVERYBODY on the left is going holding their breath the whole next week??
Praying to ……whatever/whoever they pray to (Obama??) that the Oprah interview blows up.
Especially now that the stupid KSM news came.
B Man on November 15, 2009 at 12:30 AM
I can’t wait for this book.
AP will have to set up a special website for all the postings and threads. Snarkmania ’09
Sapwolf on November 15, 2009 at 12:31 AM
Why is Race Card keeping tabs on others’ sexual orientation?
ddrintn on November 15, 2009 at 12:33 AM
Can’t wait to read my copy! I’m wondering if pre-orders will arrive early on Monday. Often they do. Anyone know?
conservative pilgrim on November 15, 2009 at 12:35 AM
I made no claim to be even the least bit witty. In fact, I can provide loads of evidence that would suggest otherwise. I’m very easily amused. I consider Horse Feathers and The Three Stooges genius. I laugh out loud at my own jokes…a lot. I not too bright.
The only person putting on airs is you. “Rapier wit?”
Bwahahaha. Slow down Aesop, I can’t keep up.
The Race Card on November 15, 2009 at 12:36 AM
Sapwolf on November 15, 2009 at 12:31 AM
If the only thing that readers take away from Going Rogue was that Sarah Palin DID NOT QUIT and nothing else then I will be a very happy camper indeed.
technopeasant on November 15, 2009 at 12:37 AM
Don’t blame me if you’ve never heard the term.
ddrintn on November 15, 2009 at 12:37 AM
The Race Card on November 15, 2009 at 12:36 AM
From someone who just “walked in” ….you are an assholee.
CWforFreedom on November 15, 2009 at 12:40 AM
You’re an a-hole
CWforFreedom on November 15, 2009 at 12:41 AM
Did Sarah Palin actually write that her reaction to McCain’s phone call about the vice president’s slot was that it felt “like a natural progression?”
Loxodonta on November 15, 2009 at 12:41 AM
Deflection fail.
You brought up Anderson Cooper’s rumored sexuality with no compunction whatsoever. But I sarcastically mock you for it and I’m the one with issues towards gays? Ha!
Also, I’m not interested in your family tree no matter how many gay relatives you try to invoke in defense of your gay-baiting.
Okely dokely neighbor.
The Race Card on November 15, 2009 at 12:42 AM
LMAO. That’s the point you pull some ragged cliche out of your butt and want me to call you Batman. You’re a chump.
The Race Card on November 15, 2009 at 12:43 AM
It says, pulling a ragged cliche out of its butt. Chump.
ddrintn on November 15, 2009 at 12:45 AM
I feel dirty after having been tricked into reading Newsweek and whatever. Oh, ok. The brain bleach is working fast. But seriously, no one has had a chance to read the book yet. Shame on all of these assholes for forcing their dementia on people who lack balancing information with which to base an objective opinion.
alliebobbitt on November 15, 2009 at 12:46 AM
I hate The Race Card and AnninCA.
alliebobbitt on November 15, 2009 at 12:47 AM
“Rapier wit” is a bit clichéd, but still worth using.
Your rapper jive will never come into literary greatness, though.
Word.
Jenfidel on November 15, 2009 at 12:48 AM
Yeah, it just makes the left LOOK scared. It is one thing to be scared, it is something else to LOOK scared. And besides, America loves an underdog. A woman standing up to this kind of attack will win the hearts of a lot of Americans.
Newsweek is digging their hole deeper and they don’t even realize it.
crosspatch on November 15, 2009 at 12:50 AM
ROFL!
Me, too!
Don’t forget GrowHair, BleedsGreen & ProudRhinoVirus.
Jenfidel on November 15, 2009 at 12:50 AM
I would lay money on the fact that Gov Palin would never bow to anyone. Her publishers have ordered a second printing. 1.5million copies was not enough to even make it to release date. The slient majority understand that government is not the answer but the problem. Palin is a disciple of Reagan and thatcher and it was their policies which led to a 30 year economic expansion. Freedom is always the correct chioce.
The dems have showed their cards. They want to make a whole new catagory of criminal conduct with their healthcare bill. They are threatening to lock up large portions of America for the simple reason they do not pay a fine for not having healthcare. They want to strangle our industrial revolution and cap the output of industrial gasses need to run that economic machine, they want to tax us by the mile for driving our cars, they want to increase government in every aspect of our lives. Palin doesn’t and is strong enugh and sure enough about her beliefs to stat so on the record. And that is why she is still standing. We could care less about Levi, her resigning, etc. She states she believes in freedom, she has governed with those ideals, her policies have freedom first.
She unlike all of the elites in DC and NYC understand that government is the problem not our salvation.
And unless she changes that outlook she will continue to have my support.
unseen on November 15, 2009 at 12:50 AM
Anderson Cooper is not-so-closeted gay yet brought up as the token gay when the network wants to appear objective: “Here’s this not-admittedly gay manwho will weigh in on ‘teabaggers’ or Miss CA who opposes gay marriage.”
alliebobbitt on November 15, 2009 at 12:51 AM
ProudRino has a stupid name. Grow Fins is a global warming dolt who at least is invested in the hoax. Bleeds Blue is an Always commercial gone wrong.
alliebobbitt on November 15, 2009 at 12:55 AM
Looks like technopeasant is a pervert too.
Jasper61 on November 15, 2009 at 12:55 AM
Tiger Woods just won the Australian Masters. That’s not the item however. What the commentators mentioned that there were 4-5 helicopters circling around Tiger’s practice round in Melbourne on Tuesday (two days before the tournament started).
Does that kind of buzz remind you of someone we know and love and what is occuring at present as the topic of this thread?
technopeasant on November 15, 2009 at 12:56 AM
I just read over at C4P that Mike Allen at Politico is reporting that – HarperCollins has gone back to press on “Going Rogue,” so the number of shipped books will be well over 1.5M. Prepaid orders on Amazon alone are over 80,000. Its #1 on Amazon and BN.com.
That little nugget of information is sure to make some heads explode. Then again it wouldn’t surprise me if all these preemptive attacks on the book and Palin herself before it is even released are actually driving up pre orders and sales of the book. This is because people are seeing all the hyper partisan BS being spewed out by the Liberal media about the book and want to see for themselves what it actually says.
Hellrider on November 15, 2009 at 12:59 AM
Grow Fins, Bleeds Blue and crr6 (and a few others) are just true buh-leeeeevhas.
ddrintn on November 15, 2009 at 12:59 AM
If Sarah Palin actually wrote that her reaction to McCain’s phone call about the vice president’s slot was that it felt “like a natural progression,” what does that say about her personality, her character, and her view of herself?
Loxodonta on November 15, 2009 at 1:02 AM
I have disagreed with Krauthammer on embryonic stem cell research in that he does not have as much difficulty with the concept of destroying life to heal as do I, but I appreciate that he at least recognizes my position as an ethical position as opposed to simply disregarding my position as that of an evangelical pro-lifer.
Other than that, I don’t know the last time I disagreed with him.
Mongo Mere Pawn on November 15, 2009 at 1:04 AM
That she’s expressing what most politicians think of themselves? Without having read the book and seeing the context, I wouldn’t know.
ddrintn on November 15, 2009 at 1:07 AM
He woefully misread the town hall protests; then took Palin to task for “death panels” in a column in which he implicitly agrees with her.
ddrintn on November 15, 2009 at 1:08 AM
Tiger Woods in his post-tournament winning interview tonight said regarding the third round, “I had a bad day.”
Why can’t Americans take the same attitude with the Couric interview and leave it at that?
technopeasant on November 15, 2009 at 1:15 AM
It’s like telling people DON’T DON’T DON’T buy something, nothing helps sales more then doing that.
B Man on November 15, 2009 at 1:15 AM
Ironically Chicagoans will be more prone to forgive Jay Cutler for throwing 5 interceptions on Thursday and perhaps costing the Bears a playoff spot than to forgive Sarah Palin for claiming that Obama ‘was palling around’ with a former domestic terrorist.
technopeasant on November 15, 2009 at 1:18 AM
Too, too funny!
Jenfidel on November 15, 2009 at 1:30 AM
As I don’t have the context, I don’t know what it means either regarding Sarah Palin, but I know it could be very important.
If the New York Times took that quote out of context, then it is smearing Palin, and I would not put it past them for doing it.
However, if Palin actually wrote that her initial reaction to McCain’s phone call about the vice president’s slot was that it felt “like a natural progression,” then that is not “what most politicians think of themselves,” but what only those politicians who are most narcissistic, egocentric, self-flattering, and arrogant think of themselves. It sounds just like Barry. And I don’t want another one of those in the presidency, regardless of their ideology.
So, I would like to read the sentence and paragraph from which those four words were quoted.
Loxodonta on November 15, 2009 at 1:33 AM
Strange, just about every complaint made by these two articles about Sarah Palin are the same complaints they both should have made about the President they scammed into office after they perched him on top of an ivory tower.
Speakup on November 15, 2009 at 1:37 AM
I view his death panels column as of a piece with his general discomfort with her. He clearly would prefer that someone else pick up Reagan’s banner, but he at least has not completely ruled out the possibility that it will be her as has Peggy Noonan et al. Krauthammer is a beltway denizen, but I think he at least is aware of his isolation and makes some small attempt to attenuate it.
Bottom line, to varying degrees, the Beltway politicos, lobbyists and bureaucrats, and their Media enablers, are all clearly uncomfortable with the idea of a fertile, conservative woman of evangelical faith in the White House, and they will do whatever it takes to keep her from achieving it. I don’t see her as a populist. The MSM is using that term as a perjorative. She is no more populist than Reagan or Thatcher. They both campaigned against Big Government, but I would put neither in the same category as William Jennings Bryan who tended more to demagoguery.
In fact, I don’t see the Tea Party movement as populist. I see Tea Party participants as common sense Americans who realize we can and are losing our country. Their grievances are less personal than patriotic. I view populism as more akin to “what’s in it for me” politics with the populist politician promising something that he cannot deliver because, ultimately, he cannot work the levers of government having argued for their utter destruction. Reagan and Thatcher and, I think, Palin seek to reform without alienating Americans from their government completely.
Mongo Mere Pawn on November 15, 2009 at 1:41 AM
Ready to cast Palin’s alleged words in the worst possible light at the drop of a NYSlimes hat, eh?
What if George Washington had said this after he lead the Colonial forces to victory in the Revolutionary War, that making him President was a “natural progression?”
How about Lincoln, that electing him President during a time of national turmoil was a “natural progression” after his focused debates with Douglas?
Regardless of ideology, it’s bad to say this?
Really?
Jenfidel on November 15, 2009 at 1:42 AM
Wow! Sarah is sh*t upon by both Newsweek and the NYT on the same day. Can a decent person even imagine a better resume item than that?
materialist on November 15, 2009 at 1:49 AM
George Washington never said any such thing about himself. Prove me wrong. Abraham Lincoln never said any such thing about himself. Prove me wrong. Both were very humble men.
I want to know exactly what Palin said and the context, because the way the NY Times portrays it, it makes her seem like a very arrogant and egotistical person, which I had not thought of her as being. But so far, I have read no context or explanation. Please provide an explanation other than this being the statement of person showing the same traits that Obama exhibits.
And perhaps I am so old-fashioned and out of touch with contemporary American culture that I simply don’t get the value of these characteristics. Please explain their value.
Loxodonta on November 15, 2009 at 2:03 AM
I don’t think it says anything sinister or egotistical. Consider that she has been always an executive. And at the time of her selection, she was a strong proponent of one of the biggest issues: energy. That topic faded as the campaign progressed, but I don’t find anything objectionable to what is written there. She was perhaps the biggest player on one of the biggest issues. To add her expertise onto a ticket seems a natural progression to me. It’s not like she was running (or can we even determine she’s looking at now) for the top office.
Spirit of 1776 on November 15, 2009 at 2:04 AM
Why shouldn’t Palin be “thoroughly ungrateful” to the McCain campaign? They were the suckiest bunch of idiots I have ever seen. McCain’s ego wouldn’t let him pick someone who talked mean about him in the primaries.
Speedwagon82 on November 15, 2009 at 2:10 AM
QUESTION:
Is it better to say of one’s opportunity to gain a high office:
A. “It’s a natural Progression”
…or…
B. “I am the one we have been waiting for”
Which of these statements is more indicative of a serious and dysfunctional mental problem?
landlines on November 15, 2009 at 2:11 AM
OT: Flashback: Obama Wants Military Tribunals for KSM
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/11/14/flashback-obama-wants-military-tribunals-for-ksm/
Out of his own mouth he was adamant on KSM having a Military Tribunal. This is a biggie…
Annie on November 15, 2009 at 2:15 AM
To the keen observers, to put these two into the same sentence, or pot, as it were, is to compare Einstein with Michael Moore.
Go to the vault and do some studying before you do this again. Otherwise you insult intelligence.
For the newbies, TRC is the Einstein. He just plays ‘dumb’ to perfection, sometimes. He’s got more guts and steely balls than 15 Obamas would have.
Schadenfreude on November 15, 2009 at 2:16 AM
This is the context issue. I’m waiting to read the context. If Palin writes about her first reaction being humbled, thankful, honored, etc., then the NY Times has slimed her again. However, if she didn’t write about it like that, then who has a first reaction to being offered the vice-presidency of the United States of American, that it is a “natural progression” for them? Who among all Americans would react that way? Seems a very strange reaction to me.
Loxodonta on November 15, 2009 at 2:20 AM
I am so tired of all these elitist douche bags! The reason we love this woman is because she is a common person. She has strength and convictions. I look at her and feel that my daughters can achieve anything they set their minds on. She scares these wannabe intellectuals and she could probably whup all their candy a@#es.
TXMomof3 on November 15, 2009 at 2:21 AM
What is so strange about her reaction? She is a charismatic young attractive Republican. Why would she not see herself as someone who would be looked at for the job?
TXMomof3 on November 15, 2009 at 2:23 AM
Krauthammer is an independent thinker but he is, I believe, fundamentally a liberal. He served in the Carter administration, and was a speech writer for Mondale. His roots are in liberal politics. But I find him fascinating and always like to listen to what he has to say, even if I disagree with it.
crosspatch on November 15, 2009 at 2:26 AM
Thank you for posting that – my typing fingers (2) went on strike at the thought of posting similar.
OldEnglish on November 15, 2009 at 2:29 AM
Come on now… what kind of total moron would it take to do soemthing like that?
Oh wait, it’s been done already, this year, by Obama and crew.
Hog Wild on November 15, 2009 at 2:31 AM
That is why I support her.
Sapwolf on November 15, 2009 at 2:33 AM
A common person reacts to such an offer with humility, and does not have a first reaction that being offered the Vice Presidency of the US is a “natural progression” for them. Like the sun rising?
Loxodonta on November 15, 2009 at 2:33 AM
Agreed. TRC is most often brilliant and sometimes very funny. Although he is not a troll, he can get a bit annoying at times. I suppose we all can, though, including me.
Disagree about Ann, though. I’ve done quite a bit of studying this particular case, and she is not stupid, but is very deft at what she does here. Perhaps the most clever of all.
Loxodonta on November 15, 2009 at 2:41 AM
I like Ann. She’s not a troll at all. Simplesimon and Grow Fins are trolls. Decider is a troll, to a certain extent. Ann is just a person who is fed up with the Democratic Party’s leftward shift. I can identify with her. I’m a mushy middle type of person myself, but I’ve gotten so fed up with the Dems, I will never vote Dem.
NathanG on November 15, 2009 at 2:44 AM
Uh – no – kind of life if you’re governor then there’s no higher executive office to which you can aspire. Her statement comes across to me as someone who feels natural uncertainty about her readiness rationalizing it.
VP is not a very taxing office in itself. It could potentially have been an excellent intensive course “qualifying” Palin for the top job in the event she ended up having to fill it for whatever remainder of the term.
That’s assuming that what the country needs or wants is someone who qualifies for the job in the same way a surgeon qualifies to do surgery. Maybe that’s the wrong way of looking at the office, and maybe that has a lot to do with what’s wrong the country.
CK MacLeod on November 15, 2009 at 2:46 AM
I’d like to know the full context too. But in the meantime, let’s see: In a fairly short period of time, from being elected to school board, to being elected mayor, on to the Alaska Energy Commission (where she fights corruption), and then elected governor of the state (where she fights more corruption), to a vice presidential nomination. Looks like a pretty good progression from here.
I don’t see anything really very unnatural about it, and I don’t see much reason to fault her if she did look at it that way, unless the full context actually shows that she’s got an arrogant streak of hubris, let’s say 1/10 as wide as O’bambi’s. Which I haven’t noticed yet, so she’ll get the benefit of the doubt from this observer, even if she did see it as a natural progression.
Agam on November 15, 2009 at 2:51 AM
Yeah, right……. idiot!
Seven Percent Solution on November 15, 2009 at 2:53 AM
I didn’t say Ann was a troll, so I am concerned by your response.
Loxodonta on November 15, 2009 at 2:55 AM
Oh. Sorry. I misread your comment. I thought you meant she was a troll.
NathanG on November 15, 2009 at 2:58 AM
I just can’t get past Ann’s support for the public option. She seems to be a pretty reasonable, middle of the road type of person. The public option is socialism.
NathanG on November 15, 2009 at 3:00 AM
Thanks for posting. I hadn’t seen that clip. As a Catholic, I think Obama’s greeting of the Pope was just fine. However, I not an incredible difference between his greeting of Pope benedict and his greeting of Saudi King and Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques, Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz. And the Emperor of Japan, as well. Odd, isn’t it?
Sorry that some Catholics here don’t quite get the ecumenical spirit.
Loxodonta on November 15, 2009 at 3:08 AM
She is not your average Troll. She is a CONCERN Troll, and a notorious one at that. Lox is spot on. Ann is very savvy and the most deft of all. She was banned from another site for spamming threads and trying to derail the PUMAS, who were rallying behind McCaine and Palin.
I have been following her deceptions for over a year on multiple sites.
Geochelone on November 15, 2009 at 3:09 AM
Yes, that is an interesting phenomenon, isn’t it?
Loxodonta on November 15, 2009 at 3:13 AM
Hmmmm. I didn’t know that. Oh well, a concern troll is better than evil, like Simplesimon. What really took the cake for me was when he/she/it called a poster who is a soldier (hawkdriver maybe) nutty. Simplesimon should have been banned for that. I’m sick of it. I guess I’m too thin-skinned to realize that someone that hateful and evil really exists.
NathanG on November 15, 2009 at 3:18 AM
It’s Tea Parters not Teabaggers- teabaggers is what the left did in college, they hanged their balls over the mouth of fellow fraternity brothers.
Ed Laskie on November 15, 2009 at 3:18 AM
Ed Laskie on November 15, 2009 at 3:18 AM
Sorry, I was using the term the Left uses. I was not attempting to be offensive or demeaning to Sarah.
technopeasant on November 15, 2009 at 3:21 AM
Well, I’m going to bed.
NathanG on November 15, 2009 at 3:22 AM
Yep. Ann is fun a good bit of the time but I must defer to the Supreme Commander of Troll Patroll and that is Mr. Lox.
He appointed me Junior Deputy Cadet of the Troll Outreach Initiative but I am not yet certified for field work. His tutelage has been enlightening.
Geochelone on November 15, 2009 at 3:24 AM
I recently read “The Audacity of Hope”. Know your enemy and all that. I am telling you people, pick it up if you have the chance. It is comedy gold.
Kataklysmic on November 15, 2009 at 3:25 AM
I agree with your logic here. I’ve been vacillating for some time about Gov. Palin. I don’t dislike her, but I’m not convinced that she exhibits confidence rather than arrogance. I realize she has a solid fan-base on HA, but I’m just not sold on her abilities as a national leader.
As for the comments about AnninCA, what’s a “concern” troll?
anXdem on November 15, 2009 at 3:26 AM
Link
Geochelone on November 15, 2009 at 3:28 AM
Gotcha. Thanks for the link.
I’m curious about this behavior. Is the goal to confuse others? Is it to convert them through strong argument? If so, then I really believe Ann fails miserably. She’s a bright woman, and has worked in my discipline, but her arguments aren’t particularly compelling.
anXdem on November 15, 2009 at 3:34 AM
I love how the assclowns over at Newsweak about her not caring about the “teabaggers.” and not getting involved.
Funniest thing, Sarah is going to be the keynote speaker at the very first national Tea Party Convention!
From Josh Painter:
http://texas4palin.blogspot.com/2009/11/sarah-palin-to-keynote-first-tea-party.html
This is the democrat/communists and the Vichy RINOs and DIABLOs worst nightmare!
gary4205 on November 15, 2009 at 3:39 AM
Sorry for continuing to be off-topic, but trollology is almost always important in Hot Air threads. Just as important as truth, humor and patience.
The typical trolls spew excrement in order to incite anger and hijack the thread. They succeed when we react to them as they want, and respond with anger. Unless they tell a lie or half-truth that needs correcting, I ignore them completely.
Hawkdriver is not nutty. That’s a lie.
There, that was all the correction needed.
Some trolls here may seem quite conservative, but throw out off-topic bombs, i.e. bigotry or hostility toward other posters, that help hijack a thread. Even if they are conservative, they are acting trollish when they make such comments.
Far more dangerous are Concern Trolls. They masquerade as being one thing, but then in some important thread, they keep trying to steer the conversation away from anything that might lay blame on Obama or liberals and promote other “conserns,” or they agree with conservative views except for certain concerns. For example, read the threads about the Fort Hood incident, and watch who and how some posters try to steer away from blaming political correctness or the FBI, but blame the Army. It’s like the PTSD meme the MSM are using to explain that poor, tragic figure, Hasan. He’s not a terrorist, but a victim. This approach is far more dangerous than the standard troll, and must be addressed very carefully. I confess that I cannot always do so.
And it is especially difficult because conservatives are not uniform in our beliefs. Thank God! We come in different flavors, have disagreements among ourselves, sometimes lose patience with one another, get angry and even, get ready for this because it’s really hard to believe, but we actually learn things and change our minds. Wow!
However, there if you can identify a concern troll here and respond effectively, more power to you!
Loxodonta on November 15, 2009 at 3:40 AM
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