Flashback: Obama pretty happy about KSM getting a “full military trial”

posted at 1:36 pm on November 14, 2009 by Allahpundit

The latest trip down memory lane from Naked Emperor News and a new entry in the database of things that Obama thought were a good idea before January 20 of this year (see also “winning in Afghanistan”). On a related note, and as a supplement to Ed’s post about The One’s weekly address this morning, JWF makes a good point: Did this guy actually have the brass balls to warn people about turning the Fort Hood trial into “political theater” the morning after he granted Khaled Sheikh Mohammed a jihadist megaphone in New York City?

Don’t think he won’t use that megaphone, either. Megaphones are kind of his thing:

By all accounts, the spotlight during what would be the biggest terrorism trial in U.S. history would provide Mohammed, a man of no small ego, with the kind of attention he craves. A showman, he has reveled in a number of appearances at Guantanamo Bay, tossing self-aggrandizing broadsides from his perch at the front of a courtroom and then retreating into self-satisfied smiles.

“I know him well, and if he gets his way in federal court, it will be a circus,” said Charles D. “Cully” Stimson, who was deputy assistant secretary of defense for detainee affairs in the Bush administration. “The court will have to rein in his speechifying and keep the focus on his criminal behavior.”…

Under Mohammed’s original plan for Sept. 11, 10 aircraft were to be hijacked. He was to have been aboard the only one not to crash, and after killing the male passengers he was to deliver a speech condemning U.S. support for Israel, as well as the Philippines and governments in the Arab world.

The 9/11 Commission Report notes: “This vision gives a better glimpse of his true ambitions. This is theater, a spectacle of destruction with KSM as the self-cast star — the superterrorist.”

After thinking more about it, I’m assuming that Obama’s Plan B in case he’s acquitted is to put him on trial in a military court for the attack on the Pentagon. Presumably the charges in Manhattan will be limited to the attack on the Trade Center in order to avoid double jeopardy, although whether that’ll work — i.e. whether the defense can somehow force them to dispose of all potential charges related to 9/11 in the NYC trial — is a question for criminal lawyers. One other possibility, as a potential Plan C: How ’bout a trial in The Hague for crimes against humanity? That’s loaded with risk, as a court of international judges is unlikely to be less favorably disposed to KSM than a Manhattan jury, but The One doubtless would appreciate the spectacle of enlightened transnational institutions dispensing justice where American ones couldn’t. Something to shoot for!

Update: There’s something else I meant to bring up yesterday. Remember when he and Cheney were tangling over Gitmo earlier this year and he gave that speech at the National Archives to make the case for his position? Remember the highly controversial part of that speech where he talked about indefinite detention without trial for some jihadis? Quote:

We are going to exhaust every avenue that we have to prosecute those at Guantanamo who pose a danger to our country. But even when this process is complete, there may be a number of people who cannot be prosecuted for past crimes, but who nonetheless pose a threat to the security of the United States. Examples of that threat include people who have received extensive explosives training at al Qaeda training camps, commanded Taliban troops in battle, expressed their allegiance to Osama bin Laden, or otherwise made it clear that they want to kill Americans. These are people who, in effect, remain at war with the United States.

As I said, I am not going to release individuals who endanger the American people. Al Qaeda terrorists and their affiliates are at war with the United States, and those that we capture – like other prisoners of war – must be prevented from attacking us again.

He’s telling you right there, flat out, that some guys aren’t going free no matter what it might mean for due process. (He qualified it by saying he wants a “framework” of “oversight” in such cases, but the point remains: It’s constitutionally unprecedented.) In which case, once again: Why even prosecute KSM?


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Look for this to be used to set dangerous legal precedents

Daveyardbird on November 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Thanks for posting this video, I was hoping it would get prominence.

As regarding your theories, that seems to have some merit becuase there is no way he can let KSM go free, and there is some risk of that when the trial appears to be to put counter-terrorism (ie Bush) on trial/display.

My political question is, is there anyway this can be spun as a political gain for Obama? I only see negatives from this – losing moderates especially; security moms, etc.

Later, at Guantanamo Bay, he told one person who had contact with him that, in all his time in the United States, he had never touched an American, not even to shake hands.

Presumably preferring to bow.

Spirit of 1776 on November 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Everything this idiot does is dangerous for us.

anniekc on November 14, 2009 at 1:42 PM

This has the potential to really put a killshot on Obama’s image. People are going to get really pissed once they see KSM going off on how horrible America is, and if there is any sort of screwup on the prosecution’s part, it is going to get really ugly.

WisCon on November 14, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Bad move, Obama, bad move.

Joe Caps on November 14, 2009 at 1:49 PM

This has the potential to really put a killshot on Obama’s image. People are going to get really pissed once they see KSM going off on how horrible America is, and if there is any sort of screwup on the prosecution’s part, it is going to get really ugly.

WisCon on November 14, 2009 at 1:47 PM

One can only hope this screws up Obama’s image with the One’s supporters in New York and elsewhere…

WhoU4 on November 14, 2009 at 1:51 PM

This is theater, a spectacle of destruction with KSM as the self-cast star — the superterrorist.”

So he wants to be Cobra Commander?

Tony737 on November 14, 2009 at 1:51 PM

“This vision gives a better glimpse of his true ambitions. This is theater, a spectacle of destruction with KSM as the self-cast star — the superterrorist.”

Obama doctrine.

the_nile on November 14, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Someone ASK him why he changed his view.

SarahW on November 14, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Why even prosecute KSM?

To rev up anti-torture and thus anti-Bush sentiment just in time for next year’s elections.

ROCnPhilly on November 14, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Half of the class in law school would wince when some students spoke. The Affirmative Action wonders were frequently among the worst. Now you know where this guy and his crew got their practive as they were led to believe that they knew what they were talking about. And the media continues to delude this poor soul about both his ability and his programs.

IlikedAUH2O on November 14, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Even politically I dont see the benefit in this for Obama. This trial will be a constant reminder to people of the monsters responsible for 9/11 which will make it harder for him to go soft on the War in Afghanistan or show weakness with Iran and our other enemies. It will be a constant thorn in his side when it comes to Foreign Policy and when the trial does turn into an American bashing spectacle it will haunt Obama for most of his first term.

Other than an attempt to villify the CIA and Bush/Cheney I see no other reason why they would want this in a Civilian court.

Daemonocracy on November 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM

I am really, really uncomfortable with the idea of KSM coming to NYC…How can anyone justify sending a terrorist, from a large and angry organization, from a maximum security facility…in Cuba, no less…to a civil trial in Manhattan?

Cripes.

JetBoy on November 14, 2009 at 1:55 PM

This has the potential to really put a killshot on Obama’s image. People are going to get really pissed once they see KSM going off on how horrible America is, and if there is any sort of screwup on the prosecution’s part, it is going to get really ugly.

WisCon on November 14, 2009 at 1:47 PM

I don’t see how this would not make Obama look bad.
It’s like the gates-gate calling the police stupid.

the_nile on November 14, 2009 at 1:55 PM

In which case, once again: Why even prosecute KSM?

Because it is a show trial to prosecute the Bush Administration by proxy.

They would take political heat from non-liberals if they prosecuted the Bush Administration. This way, it will happen through defense attorneys, for all the world to see, and he won’t take a political hit. He’ll even get approval and rousing support from his nut-job base because of it.

Enoxo on November 14, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Discovery will gut the CIA and all intelligence agencies, this is what Zero is looking for.

bbz123 on November 14, 2009 at 1:58 PM

If you don’t think that the entire defense won’t be about waterboarding, how they were treated, and everything they deemed as a wrongdoing of the Bush Administration, I have a bridge for you to buy.

That’s all this is–prosecuting of the Bush Adminstration by proxy.

Enoxo on November 14, 2009 at 1:59 PM

These are people who, in effect, remain at war with the United States.

Yes, they’re WAR with us! They’re not bank robbers!

Tony737 on November 14, 2009 at 2:00 PM

I seem to remember a much-publicized trial a few years ago…wherein the prosecutor, and just about anyone who was actually familiar with the case almost guaranteed a conviction. The perp walked. [Took a two-bit hustle/robbery gone bad many years later to get a conviction on the guy, but he was set free of his most famous crime by "a jury of his peers."]

That was OJ.

Right now, KSM is an odds on favorite to walk as well.

The KSM trial will become nothing less than a late attempt to put Boooosh on tiral.

coldwarrior on November 14, 2009 at 2:01 PM

Other than an attempt to villify the CIA and Bush/Cheney I see no other reason why they would want this in a Civilian court.

Daemonocracy on November 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM

That reason is good enough for Obama.

tatersalad on November 14, 2009 at 2:02 PM

I hope this trial starts soon. This is just a sympton of the huge problem in the WH. It needs some bright white hot light shone on it.

What a mess.

ORconservative on November 14, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Two in a row

If we have to suffer preppie ivy league types as our leaders, can’t we at least demand those with decent test scores? I would say grades but who knows what the objective/subjective standards are these days. And The One was not Editor of the HLR, he had an elected post. I don’t know of any law articles by this guy. You would think that the staff would have written a few for him. Maybe they did.

And President Bush was another example…

IlikedAUH2O on November 14, 2009 at 2:04 PM

I had thought that Obama’s decision would tank his approval ratings, but for some reason he is back to 50% approval at Rassmuson today. Maybe it will take a while for the news to filter out.

farright on November 14, 2009 at 2:05 PM

I would not be in any way surprised if someone tries to kill him at the trial. I’m sure they will let some of the victims’ families into the courtroom, and I’d bet at least one of them would be willing to sacrifice their freedom to see justice served. It will become an even more distinct possibility if it becomes clear that KSM is going to be acquitted.

[conspiracy theory]Perhaps this is Obama’s plan. He wants to get rid of KSM, but doesn’t want the blood on his hands.[/conspiracy theory]

Jeff M (Formerly Jeff_McAwesome) on November 14, 2009 at 2:05 PM

He’s telling you right there, flat out, that some guys aren’t going free no matter what it might mean for due process.

AP why do you believe or even listen to anything this person says? He may or may not mean it at the moment its spoken, but 30 seconds later he does something that contradicts what he says.

dogsoldier on November 14, 2009 at 2:10 PM

Right now, KSM is an odds on favorite to walk as well.

Really? The people who are saying he’ll be acquitted are delusional.

crr6 on November 14, 2009 at 2:10 PM

That’s all this is–prosecuting of the Bush Adminstration by proxy.

Enoxo on November 14, 2009 at 1:59 PM

I think that’s exactly why Odumbass is going this route. Also, AP, why would you believe anything this boy has said? He’ll let KSM walk as long as Bush is made out to be the criminal.

txag92 on November 14, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Look at the jobs saved for the New York Times reporters!

Cybergeezer on November 14, 2009 at 2:13 PM

As I understand the current law, federal courts now have the discretion to televise their proceedings. It’s up to the Judge assigned to the case. No law requires it; no law fobids it.

I’m wondering if any of these trials will televised and, more important, whether the Justice Department will request that they not be?

We’ll find out…

SteveMG on November 14, 2009 at 2:13 PM

Really? The people who are saying he’ll be acquitted are delusional.

crr6 on November 14, 2009 at 2:10 PM

Do you support this move?

Spirit of 1776 on November 14, 2009 at 2:13 PM

ALERT: ALERT:

ANECDOTAL:

I HAVE HEARD SEVERAL YOUNG LIBS IN NYC OPENLY EXPRESSING BEWILDERMENT, DISGUST AND FEAR AS A RESULT OF OBAMA’S DECISION TO BRING KSM TO NYC.

BY HIS ACTIONS OBAMA IS OPENING EYES.

I HOPE IT’S NOT TOO LATE…

reliapundit on November 14, 2009 at 2:14 PM

Other than an attempt to villify the CIA and Bush/Cheney I see no other reason why they would want this in a Civilian court.

Daemonocracy on November 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM

That is what it is all about. Very dangerous for him to start this nonsense. It will soon be his time. I sure don’t think he wants to go down this road.

BetseyRoss on November 14, 2009 at 2:14 PM

I’m hoping we’ve got a Mitch Rapp or Jack Bauer out there who’s had enough, and will go down to Gitmo and take KSM and the others out.

We cannot afford the devastation to our intelligence and security assets that a civil trial of these vermin will inevitably lead to.

TXUS on November 14, 2009 at 2:15 PM

farright on November 14, 2009 at 2:05 PM

It takes 3 days for it to max out at Rasmussen (rolling 3-day average)

IrishEi on November 14, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Turkmanbama. The leader of the three ring circus.

He wants Bush and Cheney in one of those three rings. There will be thunderous applause from the Left.

Peeps made a GRAND mistake last November. It hardly ends here. The wild rumpus has only begun.

Gob on November 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM

Another in the litany of failures.

May the Republic survive.

publiuspen on November 14, 2009 at 2:19 PM

Obama gets to put Bush and Cheney on trial.

Obama gets to put the CIA and other intelligence agencies on trial.

Obama gets to challenge enhanced interrogation techniques.

Obama gets to expose American intelligence gathering apparatus.

Obama gets to scare the crap out of NYers again (AF1 buzzing was so much fun.)

Win. Win. Win. Win. Win.

And if by some chance KSM is acquited, Rahm can always find a “right wing extremist” to tap him.

Mega-win!

IrishEi on November 14, 2009 at 2:24 PM

Every time President Bush or waterboarding is brought up in the trial, a clip of the planes going into the twin towers must be played.

dragondrop on November 14, 2009 at 2:28 PM

Obama gets to put Bush and Cheney on trial.

Obama gets to put the CIA and other intelligence agencies on trial.

But folks are not all that sympathetic to the poor widdle tewwowists.

Obama gets to challenge enhanced interrogation techniques.

By portraying them as having happened to totally unsympathetic figures who will not work to make themselves more sympthetic

Obama gets to expose American intelligence gathering apparatus.

That’s a real winner for the President.

Obama gets to scare the crap out of NYers again (AF1 buzzing was so much fun.)

Hellooo Governor Rudy

Win. Win. Win. Win. Win.

And if by some chance KSM is acquited, Rahm can always find a “right wing extremist” to tap him.

Mega-win!

IrishEi on November 14, 2009 at 2:24 PM

Nope, backfire backfire backfire backfire backfire.

Sekhmet on November 14, 2009 at 2:31 PM

Right now, KSM is an odds on favorite to walk as well.Really? The people who are saying he’ll be acquitted are delusional. crr6 on November 14, 2009 at 2:10 PM

There won’t be an acquittal but there could be a hung jury, in which case Obama will say: “this is what you get when you torture people”.

Basilsbest on November 14, 2009 at 2:32 PM

Every time President Bush or waterboarding is brought up in the trial, a clip of the planes going into the twin towers must be played.

dragondrop on November 14, 2009 at 2:28 PM

Thousands should assemble every day of the trial, as close to the courthouse as they can get, with pictures of the towers, the jumpers, the planes, the murderers, the firemen, police and EMS personnel, the survivors, the family and friends searching for lost loved ones, the “have you seen” posters, the fireballs, the smoldering wreckage, the Palestinians dancing in the streets, the children left behind….

Never forget.

IrishEi on November 14, 2009 at 2:34 PM

FORGET BEING DEMOCRAT or REPUBLICAN – watch this on Sunday.

This Sunday Fox news, is going to air a very important documentary about Barack Obama, Sunday night at 9 P M Eastern.
The report will go back to Obama’s earlier days, showing even then his close ties to radical Marxist professors, friends, spiritual advisers, etc. It will also reveal details about his ties to Rev. Wright for +20 years i.e. how he was participating with this man, and not for the reasons he states!

The report has uncovered more of Obama’s radical past and we will see things that no one in the media is willing to put out there. It will be a segment to remember.
Mark your calendar and pass this on to everyone you know: Sunday night, 8 P M . CT ; 9 P M ET. Democrat or Republican, this report will open your eyes to how YOUR country is being sold down the road to Totalitarian Socialism.

If you care about the direction of our country, pass this notice on to everyone you know.

Schadenfreude on November 14, 2009 at 2:35 PM

The worse decision Obama made with respect to Terrorism. The Government will have to release how we gather intelligence, how we fight agaisnt Al-Qaeda. This is damaging.

Also damaging is a conviction or an acquital. No matter how you cut it, the decision is going to be damaging.

The case law arising from the Judge allowing the admittance of evidence gained through means that violate the Constitution is an ugly thought. This is just as damaging as an acquital which shows our Laws to be impotent.

Holger on November 14, 2009 at 2:36 PM

Imagine KSM, after winning in court and suing the United States, Obama agrees to weekly Scare Force One flights over New York and the Pentagon…

… with loud speakers on the plane so people can hear him laugh as they run screaming in terror.

Seven Percent Solution on November 14, 2009 at 2:36 PM

If KSM wins, then he’s charged with another crime. If he beats that, then what? Charge him again?

So now, instead of having him at Gitmo, we could have a guy that keeps being “proven” innocent and yet we continue to hold and charge him.

How is this better?

29Victor on November 14, 2009 at 2:38 PM

Schadenfreude on November 14, 2009 at 2:35 PM

I’m guessing you got that info from an email. For some reason it’s been making the rounds again. The show in question actually aired last year, before the election. It was one of Hannity’s specials. Sadly, it seems not enough people watched it.

IrishEi on November 14, 2009 at 2:44 PM

Someone ASK him why he changed his view.
SarahW on November 14, 2009 at 1:52 PM

RACIST!!

logis on November 14, 2009 at 2:47 PM

Democrat or Republican, this report will open your eyes to how YOUR country is being sold down the road to Totalitarian Socialism
Schadenfreude on November 14, 2009 at 2:35 PM

I firmly believed this, too; But now I think we’re headed to “moderate” Islam.

Cybergeezer on November 14, 2009 at 2:48 PM

I don’t know, I don’t look at 9/11 as a crime, I look at it as an attack on America. It’s the reason why we are in Afghanistan. I don’t trust lawyers to put him in the death chamber. What’s wrong with just letting him go in front of our troops in Afghanistan and letting them count to ten before they treat him like the enemy that he is?

This is just wrong on so many levels.

scalleywag on November 14, 2009 at 2:50 PM

He does very little he’s supposed to do, and does very much he’s not supposed to do.

Jim Treacher on November 14, 2009 at 2:50 PM

Hellooo Governor Rudy
Sekhmet on November 14, 2009 at 2:31 PM

That’s not a bad bet.

Buy Danish on November 14, 2009 at 2:56 PM

This is making me angry at the NYT and Sheikh Mohammed isn’t even there yet!

scalleywag on November 14, 2009 at 2:57 PM

There won’t be an acquittal but there could be a hung jury, in which case Obama will say: “this is what you get when you torture people”.
Basilsbest on November 14, 2009 at 2:32 PM

Or a mistrail. They better have a lot of alternate jurors. How many people can make it through a trial that lasts as long as this one will?

Buy Danish on November 14, 2009 at 2:58 PM

So now, instead of having him at Gitmo, we could have a guy that keeps being “proven” innocent and yet we continue to hold and charge him.

How is this better?

29Victor on November 14, 2009 at 2:38 PM

I am not a Lawyer but I am fairly sure that violates the Constitution. Sure if the Federal Government fails on their charges then New York can charge him for the Murders on 9/11 in Manhattan but not for each murder in seperate trials. If the Federal Government tries him for a crime and fails to get a conviction the State Government cannot charge him for the same crime, violates double jeopardy.

Holger on November 14, 2009 at 3:00 PM

I don’t know, I don’t look at 9/11 as a crime, I look at it as an attack on America. It’s the reason why we are in Afghanistan. I don’t trust lawyers to put him in the death chamber. What’s wrong with just letting him go in front of our troops in Afghanistan and letting them count to ten before they treat him like the enemy that he is?

This is just wrong on so many levels.

scalleywag on November 14, 2009 at 2:50 PM

How do they think they can stop a death cult of suicide attackers with the law?

the_nile on November 14, 2009 at 3:02 PM

We should keep our eye on Obama.

I know staunch liberals that are already saying this guy won’t be re-elected.

Obama maybe planning something bigger than these schizo policies.

Hondoras, Zelaya – anyone?

He apparently doesn’t give a poop about anything.

I just hope our Supreme Court and Congress are ready for anything.

father on November 14, 2009 at 3:30 PM

To rev up anti-torture and thus anti-Bush sentiment just in time for next year’s elections.
ROCnPhilly on November 14, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Do you mean he expects to lose this case in court and blame it on Bush?

DSchoen on November 14, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Obama’s and Holder’s action is clearly designed to be a show trial providing a circus stage for epic Bush and America bashing to mollify the sick left, Islamist and Islamist-friendly interests worldwide – and of course to provide cover for Democrats in the 2010 elections.

Expect KSM to be found not guilty on technical grounds and Obama will then ride in on a white unicorn to save the day by exerting “Presidential post-acquittal detention power” that he claimed for himself a few months ago.

To say that Obama and Holder are beneath contempt understates the matter.

DrDeano on November 14, 2009 at 3:49 PM

Nope, backfire backfire backfire backfire backfire.

Sekhmet on November 14, 2009 at 2:31 PM

I thought it was so obviously over the top that a sarc tag was not necessary.

IrishEi on November 14, 2009 at 4:02 PM

It seems a key question would be how does help create a permanent Democrat majority?

Will the big show trial be distraction enough to assist passing the Dem’s major legislative initiatives?

Would KSM “reveal” something that will facilitate criminal trials of interrogators and/or members of the Bush-administration?

If the trial whips-up anti-American sentiment among Muslims, resulting in more attacks in Iraq, Afghanistan, and other locations will that play to the Dem’s talking points?

Could enough outrage create a real backlash against Muslims in the U.S. to strengthen the Dem’s desire to regulate/ control everything? (Hint: does it take more than 1 nutcase attacking a Muslim to “prove” right-wing/conservative’s are more of a threat than jihadi terrorists?)

There’s a lot of ways (none positive) that this could be viewed as a smart tactical move – especially if KSM is being used as a pawn for The One’s agenda……

Perfesser on November 14, 2009 at 4:15 PM

This is just a sop to the left since he didn’t close Gitmo. Trust me, he has no clue as to how this will end. Nor does he care.

I would bet that he wants something to happen to:

Make President Bush look bad.

Take our minds off the debt and economy.

Give him a pretext for pulling out of Afghanistan.

Send more money to the poor here or around the world.

IlikedAUH2O on November 14, 2009 at 4:41 PM

Look for this to be used to set dangerous legal precedents

Daveyardbird on November 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Great catch.

marklmail on November 14, 2009 at 4:43 PM

I have a bad feeling about all this.

Terrye on November 14, 2009 at 4:44 PM

Soetoro the Storyteller always has a story … and then a new story. Chapter after chapter will always contradict the previous chapter.

“Let me be perfectly clear” is always followed up with a contradiction at some point.

Ricohoc on November 14, 2009 at 5:41 PM

One of the saddest things about this is
the trial will probably still be going on
when Obama’s voted out of office in 2012.

mrt721 on November 14, 2009 at 5:41 PM

Flashback: Obama pretty happy about KSM getting a “full military trial”

That was way back then
When he had to act like he was a patriot
Now there is no need for that act
He Won

macncheez on November 14, 2009 at 5:42 PM

I don’t see how this prosecution is even possible. Even if you get past the Miranda problem, and I don’t see how you do, there are the rules of evidence and there isn’t really much of that other than heresay. Even a really bad lawyer could get confessions and any other information gained by interrogation and waterboarding thrown out due to cohersion of confession rules. KSM was a conspirator and an illegal combatant in a foreign country. The whole idea of subjecting him to a civil penal system is insane. The whole reason military tribunals exist is that you don’t have miranda and other such rights on a battlefield. And for all those misguided lefties who complained that these terrorists were not treated according to the Geneva Convention, I would agree with them in a way. The whole purpose of the GC was to lay down rules for the conduct of warfare. KSM was not fighting under any countries flag or in uniform. That makes him an illegal warrior and just like a spy, they can be shot on a battlefield.

I’m going to toss out a real bomb here. I think KSM and his pals are going to get the case thrown out of court. And for all those people who say that he could be re-arrested on other charges, consider this: Once you put them in the Civil court system, you don’t have the autority to hold them without charges and a speedy trial. You will have to either convict or release them in a reasonable amount of time. That being the case, I think KSM will walk free because all of the things that he could be charged with will fail because of the differences between a military and civil justice system. And I don’t think you would ever get a judge to condone putting them back into the military justice system. This is a HUGH, well, I was going to say mistake, but I don’t really believe that. I think it is Holders very intention to see these guys walk free. He, just like our president, has a lot of sympathy with muslim terrorists.

Bikerken on November 14, 2009 at 5:48 PM

lol Obama/axelrod/pelosi still acting like winning by 1000 whopper lies = a mandate.

They can only fake it for so long. People are on to them.

marklmail on November 14, 2009 at 5:48 PM

Obama is a dangerous Precedent

faraway on November 14, 2009 at 6:07 PM

***
Comrade Obama (PBUH) has no memory. He instantly forgets anything he said or any position he took–even on video. It’s like watching a weathervane spin around in a tornado. All sound and fury–(and lies!)–signifying nothing.
***
But the BLOWBACK from this EPIC FAIL decision should look like Hiroshima when the nuke went off! I can’t wait for the 2010 and 2012 elections–when we send him to the “dustbin of history” with his mentors and enablers.
***
John Bibb
***

rocketman on November 14, 2009 at 6:14 PM

Eric Holder felt the same way right after 911. That the terrorist should have limited rights given the offense and the Geneva convention. BUT then his colleagues began getting some of the vermon as high dollar clients and all of a sudden they’re victims.
This is the greatest opportunity to make public “torture methods” and make the Bush administration look evil even if it means giving away important secrets. Even if it means giving foreign terrorists american civil rights. Even if it means some of the terrorists getting off-won’t matter Barry’ll just lock’em back up-constitution now just a piece of paper to be Hoped and Changed.
This is a chance to make Bush look bad for…protecting us.

onomo on November 14, 2009 at 6:40 PM

His lies are legion.

ultracon on November 14, 2009 at 7:23 PM

How do they think they can stop a death cult of suicide attackers with the law?

Exactly the obvious question that this administration of eloquent geniuses cannot answer. Keep asking it.

drunyan8315 on November 14, 2009 at 9:11 PM

Barry has a lovely eyes and smile and voice, and he uses those and his pretty words to cover a very extreme leftist agenda of and vendettas against his political enemies. Of course, most Americans don’t know this because the MSM is almost entirely fixated on his eyes, his smile, his voice, his pretty words.

Isn’t he simply fabulous!

* gushingly with palpitations *

— MSM

Loxodonta on November 14, 2009 at 11:09 PM

SchizOBAMA- nutjob-, crackpot-, fruitloop-in-chief.

Lying out of every available orfice.

Just hope we can survive his lies.

profitsbeard on November 15, 2009 at 12:05 AM

I would not be in any way surprised if someone tries to kill him at the trial. I’m sure they will let some of the victims’ families into the courtroom, and I’d bet at least one of them would be willing to sacrifice their freedom to see justice served. It will become an even more distinct possibility if it becomes clear that KSM is going to be acquitted.

[conspiracy theory]Perhaps this is Obama’s plan. He wants to get rid of KSM, but doesn’t want the blood on his hands.[/conspiracy theory]

Jeff M (Formerly Jeff_McAwesome) on November 14, 2009 at 2:05 PM

Or someone will kill KSM’s lawyers..

bridgetown on November 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Look for this to be used to set dangerous legal precedents

Why wouldn’t lawyer use Obama’s statement as a means to demonstrate that KSM cannot possibly get a fair trial if acquittal would not mean his freedom?

drjohn on November 15, 2009 at 12:35 PM

As I said, I am not going to release individuals who endanger the American people.

Or maybe he’ll just say that KSM is no longer a danger.

drjohn on November 15, 2009 at 1:00 PM

I’m afraid I’ll have to disagree. If the case against KSM and his cohorts result in acquittals, hung juries or, especially, dismissal by a sitting judge for the numerous violations of rights involved in his capture and detention – they will go free. You are underestimating both Obama and Holder’s dedication to the Left and its deeply held, bizarre beliefs (1)about due process and (2) that the “War on Terror” is a terrorist action by the US. A man who bows in subservience to a Saudi king and the son of Hirohito will have problem doing this. Make a note that you heard it here first.

Hucklebuck on November 15, 2009 at 3:39 PM

This is an attempt to smear Bush and the Republican party in order to salvage the upcoming 2010 elections. Obama and the liberals will gladly sacrifice American lives to remain in power.

TrickyDick on November 16, 2009 at 1:52 PM