Either they didn’t care what else he knew or were trying to shut him up.

Now. Where’d I put my tin foil hat?

TugboatPhil on November 14, 2009 at 12:23 AM

It sure does make you wonder, and I try not to go anywhere near tin foil. It did happen very fast, considering.

McVeigh got what he deserved–sort of. He should have been hanged, and I imagine you agree with that.

Liam on November 13, 2009 at 4:43 PM

He should also have been waterboarded to find out more about who else was involved in the planning. I still think they killed him too soon. We don’t even kill regular murderers as quickly as he got it.

Either they didn’t care what else he knew or were trying to shut him up.

Now. Where’d I put my tin foil hat?

Webb’s dissent is remarkable for a couple of different reasons. First, he’s the best the Democrats have in the Senate for national security…

Which is why he is totally unconcerned about the expansion of the Saudi Academy in his own backyard?

Will our legal attaches (usually FBI agents) be PNG’d on the assumption that we are acting to enforce OUR laws on THEIR soil?

Will US servicefolk in transit be arrested at X airport and tried for ‘crimes’ that were not committed on the host country’s soil, but in Iraq and Afghanistan?

If we can try people in our civilian courts for crimes that were committed on another country’s soil, then other countries may decide that they can, too.

What would Hugo Chavez do with that idea? Would Obama be strong enough to resist successfully in such an instance?

KSM and his ilk will draw a sympathetic anti-Bush judge, and a jury of ignorant NY upper-west side dem libs who will acquit and turn these scum loose to do it again.

bannedbyhuffpo on November 13, 2009 at 4:59 PM

The chances of it happening are infinitesimal, but I would love to see Federal Judge Harold Baer get this case. He’s a Clinton appointee.

But he ruled in 2003 in a case that Iraq played a role in 9/11, so would obviously be disqualified from consideration.

What if KSM gets off on the proverbial “technicality?” I guess we’ll all be waiting for him at our neighborhood bus stop.

What is it going to take for the majority of people in this country to realize that Obama is not just a liberal and leftist but an enemy of this nation?

justltl on November 13, 2009 at 5:08 PM

You don’t want to know the answer to that question.

Did Timothy McVeigh commit an act of war?

orange343 on November 13, 2009 at 4:40 PM

Translation: I can’t credibly defend this latest legal action by the guy who brainwashed me into voting for him, so I will change the subject to something that happened 14 years ago.”

The former NY Mayor knows better than anyone WHAT A HUGE MISTAKE IT IS TO TRY KSM AND HIS COHORTS IN A MANHATTAN COURTROOM!

THIS IS A HUGE, HUGE, HUGE MISTAKE.

HOW CAN WE STOP HOLDER AND HIS FELLOW IDIOTS FROM PERPETRATING THIS TRAVESTY?

A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.

Edward R. Murrow

The finding for the Death Penalty for those waging war against an occupying power would be under GC IV, Art. 68 of which the second paragraph is key:

The penal provisions promulgated by the Occupying Power in accordance with Articles 64 and 65 may impose the death penalty against a protected person only in cases where the person is guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offences which have caused the death of one or more persons, provided that such offences were punishable by death under the law of the occupied territory in force before the occupation began.

KSM is definitely in this category of persons who have committed acts that are international offenses under the laws of war. The finding by the tribunal for the unlawful enemy combatant does not absolve KSM or any others captured of findings under GC IV, Art.68.

The place that he should not be tried for such crimes of international offense during war is a civilian court.

But then that would mean keeping to the GC, finding him to be an unlawful combatant, addressing the nature of his crimes that got him that status via a second tribunal and then following that with either continued captivity or execution based on the nature of those crimes. For they are war crimes. He may have done civil crimes before that, but when at war and committing such acts against civilians, that is a war crime.

Did Timothy McVeigh commit an act of war?

orange on November 13, 2009 at 4:40 PM

You are purposely trying to draw an equivalence where none exists, to support your ideology. Yes, I know you’ll deny that but that’s more expression of your unfairness, which you don’t even see. Ideology first, reason at bottom of your list.

I can tell you a story of a small fight I had because Hasan deserves all rights to a fair trial, when others like me want him summarily hanged. I can’t accept that. Hasan, as a
citizen in the military, should enjoy every right allowable by whatever jurisdiction tries him. O got into a bit of Dutch, but that’s okay.

No, I’m a Conservative who believes in the rule of law. Libs like you seek to contravene that precept, for your sick ideology. You’re so far into it you can’t hold true reason. Cons like me–people against whom you have shown disregard–have a basis: the Constitution and Original Intent.

Other libs infecting this site are the same as you, tho you’re not as abusive of them. But, you’re really all the same.