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Breaking: Hasan wired money to Pakistan?

posted at 11:40 am on November 12, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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This would appear to indicate that Nidal Hasan was something other than a loner who cracked under the strain of vicarious PTSD.  The man who made a $90,000 annual salary but lived like a pauper may have sent money to Pakistan, according to Rep. Pete Hoekstra:

Authorities have been examining whether Fort Hood massacre suspect Nidal Malik Hasan wired money to Pakistan in recent months, an action that one senior lawmaker said would raise serious questions about Hasan’s possible connections to militant Islamic groups.

Rep. Pete Hoekstra, R-Mich., said sources “outside of the [intelligence] community” learned about Hasan’s possible connections to the Asian country, which faces a massive Islamist insurgency and is widely believed to be Osama bin Laden’s hiding place.

That would explain one mystery that has arisen since the shooting, but apparently didn’t push anyone to connect a few dots before it:

Hasan’s finances have been a mystery since last week, when the Army major and psychiatrist allegedly shot and killed 13 colleagues at the sprawling Central Texas military base. Hasan earned more than $90,000 a year and had no dependents, yet lived in an aging one-bedroom apartment that rented for about $300 a month.

“You can bet there is an ongoing, extensive investigation into every single financial transaction he made,” said Matt Orwig, a former U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Texas who has no direct knowledge of the Hasan case. “Federal investigative agencies are very good at tracing the flow of money, both to him and from him.”

Hmmm.  So now we have the possibility of overseas money transfers to Pakistan at about the same time the FBI was made aware of repeated communication between Hasan and a 9/11 figure in Yemen.  Meanwhile, Hasan — a well-paid medical professional — lived a lifestyle of near-poverty despite living by himself.  And no one in the intelligence community thought this required further investigation?

Can the feds track the money, if indeed Hasan has been funding jihadist enemies of the US?  Possibly, although the Dallas Morning News notes that Muslims in Pakistan and other areas of radicalization use a transaction form known as hawala.  That leaves no paper trail, although any large unexplained cash withdrawals would indicate something nefarious afoot.  Transfers to family would not need to get laundered through hawala or have to be conducted outside of normal banking operations, after all.

If prosecutors can prove that Hasan sent money to jihadists in Pakistan, charges of treason become a lot more likely.  It would also force the government to consider this a planned terrorist attack, which they have been reluctant so far to conclude.

Update: Had the FBI pressed the connection between Hasan and Aulaqi, perhaps they might have discovered any possible irregularities with Hasan’s finances in time to stop him.


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Debbie Schlussel is reporting it. Why no one else? http://www.debbieschlussel.com/11982/more-religion-of-peace-peacefulness-on-us-soil/

Archimedes on November 12, 2009 at 1:59 PM
Because a dude grabbing another dude’s necklace isn’t all that big of a story.

orange on November 12, 2009 at 2:03 PM

You are beyond a sorry excuse for a human being.

1, How do you it was a dude v. dude scenario?
2, “Allah is power” and additional religious blathering put this into the moronic “hate crimes” category. Something which libby’s such as you have vociferously championed, and a distinction that if has racial or other minority status makes it a crime above and beyond normally considered.
3, The moron in question used a pointed object to further intimidate and harass enough where one woman was cowering in fear.
4, He obviously was threatening enough that police had to use physical force to subdue him, at which point it is cited that he continued to resist.

If there were any Judeo/Christian aspects to this story, it would run in an endless loop ad- nauseum on every cable channel for the next 48hrs, at least.

And you cannot accuse me of religio-prejudice in this matter either, as I am an athiest. What this is another clear case of is giving cover and camoflage to the enemy by not only the SRM, but LE as well.

If we do not reverse this trend, we will succumb to those we are at war with, that wish us harm, subjugate us to their “hateful” (another libby favorite word) ideology. A concept that I am quite sure you are fine with, until you’ve realized what you’ve lost.

Your carbon cost is exessive to the actual benefit derived to society, we should cap you, or trade you!

Archimedes on November 12, 2009 at 2:56 PM

Orange, you’re trolling on this. No more food from me.

Venusian Visitor on November 12, 2009 at 2:59 PM

Nobody was actually hurt. It’s just not that big of a story.

This dude who grabbed a necklace isn’t “the enemy”. He’s just a dumbass.

orange on November 12, 2009 at 3:00 PM

I agree, orange is a troll.

The cross incident is significant. It is another crime in which Islam is used to violently attack Christianity or infidels. In this case Christianity because the target was the cross around a guy’s neck.
The other funny about this story is that the family said that the guy had just arrived in this country and didn’t know the laws but others said he’d been working at the mall for a long time.
It goes back to the lies being told are justifiable to Islamics because everything is justifiable in the the spread of Islam.
Crazy huh? Those Mormons at my door never seemed to use these tactics.

ORconservative on November 12, 2009 at 3:20 PM

If the reports are true that he didn’t want to be deployed, and to some extent targeted people who had been involved in his deployment orders, that sounds like retaliation against government conduct to me.

Venusian Visitor on November 12, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Sorry I missed this before.

The key word here is the first one: “if”. As I’ve said, I’m open-minded about the possibility that this is terrorism if it turns out that his motives were terrorist motives. Thus far, it’s tea-leaf-reading to try to guess his motives. So it’s foolish to assume that it definitely is (or is not) terrorism.

orange on November 12, 2009 at 3:22 PM

Meanwhile, Hasan — a well-paid medical professional — lived a lifestyle of near-poverty despite living by himself. And no one in the intelligence community thought this required further investigation?

Ed, you know the question: Has X shown any unexplained affluence?

In other words, they always look for unexplained wealth, not pauperism. They’re looking for the yacht, the fancy car, the big house. They are not looking for a person renting an apartment and socking all their wealth away in savings.

And, if you remember, in the security questionaire, you do not reveal your banking accounts, but you do reveal your credit reports from the Big 3, and any garnisheed wages, large debts, etc.

Maybe all that will change now, and the Government will begin viewing our finances as a collection of sources and sinks.

unclesmrgol on November 12, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Oh great…heads should roll for this.

becki51758 on November 12, 2009 at 12:01 PM

There will no doubt be some infidel heads rolling on video as a result of this. Performed by good Muslims of Islam.

BL@KBIRD on November 12, 2009 at 3:34 PM

Orange
How nice of you to fall off the tree today to join us. Your here to carry water for Islam and shield your fellow Muslims I see. If your not a Muslim, you may as well be.

BL@KBIRD on November 12, 2009 at 4:24 PM

You know what the answer is?

Deport them all.

The entire situation is geared so that if we don’t, we lose.

They have laws giving them special protections, they don’t assimilate, they don’t speak out against terrorism but sit idlely and cowardly waiting to see who prevails

get them out of here and send them back to the stys they come from and they can show us then how superior their ideals are in a practical manner

truth is we don’t need anything that they have while they need everything that we do have

all the oil wealth I’m the world and they don’t make cars, planes, nothing more complicated than a rug

instead we have the libs foist these dependents on us because they know it will eventually crush our system of liberty

the left loves inferiors to use as roadbase

Sonosam on November 12, 2009 at 4:29 PM

It would also force the government to consider this a planned terrorist attack, which they have been reluctant so far to conclude.

Yes, but would they have the same reservations about jumping to conclusions if it were a white guy that walked into Columbia university and yelled, “the south shall rise again” and started biatch slapping college students? No, he’d be an extremist and conclusions would be reached by the end of the day.

ted c on November 12, 2009 at 4:41 PM

We May Never Know™

Jim Treacher on November 12, 2009 at 5:35 PM

P Pookiestan
T Terrorism
S Support
D Donations

macncheez on November 12, 2009 at 5:57 PM

Much remains unknown about the 39-year-old Hasan, born in Virginia to Palestinian immigrants. He lived alone near the Army base in Killeen, Texas, and would sometimes use a neighbor’s computer even though he had his own.

Lots of radical Muslims in Virginia, often called the Wahhabi Corridor.

I hope this computer has been seized.

Disturb the Universe on November 12, 2009 at 6:31 PM

Adding my voice 13 Charges of murder should be 14 charges of Murder. Who is going to speak up for Baby Velez? 12 Soldiers 1 civilian and one unborn baby. That’s 14 counts.

http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/11/ft-hood-massacre-13-charges-of-murder.html

Dr Evil on November 12, 2009 at 6:58 PM

We are so screwed with this attitude.

We haven’t learned at all.

As former FBI chief Louis Freeh stated in 2005 about the botched 9/11 commission:

Yet this is also a good time for the country to make some assessments of the 9/11 Commission itself. Recent revelations from the military intelligence operation code-named “Able Danger” have cast light on a missed opportunity that could have potentially prevented 9/11. Specifically, Able Danger concluded in February 2000 that military experts had identified Mohamed Atta by name (and maybe photograph) as an al Qaeda agent operating in the U.S. Subsequently, military officers assigned to Able Danger were prevented from sharing this critical information with FBI agents, even though appointments had been made to do so. Why?

fred5678 on November 12, 2009 at 7:29 PM

Can we please stop showing the photo of this guy?

He’s getting more photo coverage in the media than Michael Jackson.

Why not run a photo of one of his victims every time a photo is needed? Stop mentioning his name – more people now know the killer’s name than the name of any of the people he murdered.

How about headlines like: “The trial of the guy who killed (this person) will start soon”. Or “They wacko who murdered (this other person) was executed today”.

THOSE headlines, I’d look forward to seeing!

sultanp on November 12, 2009 at 7:56 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unborn_Victims_of_Violence_Act

he Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes a “child in utero” as a legal victim, if he or she is injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines “child in utero” as “a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb.”[2]

The law is codified in two sections of the United States Code: Title 18, Chapter 1 (Crimes), §1841 (18 USC 1841) and Title 10, Chapter 22 (Uniform Code of Military Justice) §919a (Article 119a).

The law applies only to certain offenses over which the United States government has jurisdiction, including certain crimes committed on Federal properties, against certain Federal officials and employees, and by members of the military. In addition, it covers certain crimes thatrs are defined by statute as federal offenses wherever they occur, no matter who commits them, such as certain crimes of terrorism.

14 Murder Victims NOT 13

http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/11/ft-hood-massacre-13-charges-of-murder.html

Dr Evil on November 12, 2009 at 8:12 PM

I can already see it.

Hasan was sending money to pakistan due to an “email” that said if you send me this amount every month I can make you rich.

blah.

upinak on November 12, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Somebody from Bermuda keeps sending me spam emails like that. Do you think that she is a Uigar?

onlineanalyst on November 12, 2009 at 8:22 PM

But why does this need to be terrorism when Columbine and Virginia Tech were not?

orange on November 12, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Could your point be more easily distinguished from those other events when you consider who was the target of Hasan’s pre-meditated atrocity, combined with his Power Point presentation, statements, and emails?

onlineanalyst on November 12, 2009 at 10:08 PM

What if we would of waterboarded this Maj.
Just asking….

MooreMom on November 12, 2009 at 10:27 PM

Throughout these threads Hasan/Fort Hood, there is an attempt by some posters to cast doubt on the army’s handling of the investigation as opposed to the FBI, to focus on Hasan’s problems back in earlier years as opposed to Hasan’s most blatant statements and actions in the past several months, and to raise doubts about Hasan’s mental capacity and any Islamic jihadi motivation.

This is the same approach being used by many in the MSM. What possible motives could there be for taking this approach repeatedly?

Loxodonta on November 13, 2009 at 1:10 AM

PM Hotoyama of Japan just congratulated the president for taking time out his busyness in the wake of the shootings here at Ft Hood to come visit Japan!

He apparently didn’t get the memo that ‘not jumping to conclusions’ is a piece of cake and is well suited to multitasking.

ted c on November 13, 2009 at 6:37 AM

Looking like his punishment couldn’t work out any better.
Heard today that he is paralyzed waist down but I cannot confirm.
Seems like his motivation has a Freudian element…

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2329/does-the-koran-really-promise-islamic-martyrs-72-virgins

So He was taken out by a diminutive Woman.
Will probably (hopefully) sit till the end of his days in a corner at supermax or some similar joint, wondering what his right hand and nudie bars are for.
Will not get to enjoy 72 buxom women, and will have probably forgot what Mr. happy is for by the time he does die.
I will send a Playboy when he gets settled.

P.S. The cartoon in the link is priceless.

notalemon on November 13, 2009 at 10:59 AM

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