Pew poll: Anti-incumbent sentiment nears highest levels in two decades
posted at 4:19 pm on November 11, 2009 by Allahpundit
A little gravy to go with that hunk of red meat cooked up by Gallup this morning.
Public frustration with Congress may have serious electoral implications for incumbents in the 2010 midterm elections. Only about a third (34%) of registered voters say they think most members of Congress should be re-elected next year, which is on par with ratings during the 1994 and 2006 elections. Meanwhile, just 52% of voters say they want to see their own member re-elected, approaching levels in early October 2006 (50%) and 1994 (49%).
In November 1994, 68% of Democrats and 55% of Republicans favored the re-election of their own member of Congress, which is comparable to the current figures (64% of Democrats, 50% of Republicans). But today, just 42% of independents want to see their own representative re-elected, compared with 52% of independents on the eve of the 1994 midterm elections.
It gets better. Among independents who say they support the Republican in their district, 56 percent are excited to vote next year; among indies who support the local Democrat, it’s 32 percent. The raw data:

Note that support for incumbents tends to bounce back a bit as election day approaches, so for the numbers on “most representatives” to portend a big GOP wave, they’ll probably need to crack the 30 percent floor sometime next year. Or will they? In 2010 Democrats will have a problem that the ’94 Dems and ’06 GOP didn’t have to deal with — namely, their own base stupidly working against them. That might be worth a few points in purple districts, depending upon how sustained the nutroots’ “people-powered” seek-and-destroy mission is.
Speaking of anti-incumbent sentiment, I was shocked at how much bipartisan support I got this morning when I tweeted the link to Jim DeMint’s doomed attempt to impose term limits on Congress. It’s not a perfect solution — after all, if the goal is to free lawmakers from the pressures of fundraising, it’ll only be achieved in their last term — but he’s right that it should reduce the hold of special interests over Congress somewhat. If you know you’re out of a job in six years, max, who cares if some industry lobby campaigns against you to get you thrown out in two? Exit question: Is it time?
Update: Greg Sargent notes that the GOP has a 16-point advantage in enthusiasm right now and identifies the solution as — you guessed it — passing ObamaCare. I confess, I’ve never really understood this logic. Passing a big liberal wish-list program will please many Democrats, but will it please them more than it’ll drive Republicans and conservative-leaning independents into fits of rage? The surest way to kick the GOP’s enthusiasm level up from 58 percent to the mid- or high 60s would be to pass some monster health-care takeover. Which will be a small consolation once the law is on the books, but even so, why is the left so confident that passage is a net vote-gainer for them?










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For the return of the humpbot? You bet your sweet, beta male @ss it is.
amerpundit on November 11, 2009 at 4:22 PM
Mid-terms. Start now!
hawkdriver on November 11, 2009 at 4:22 PM
OT: Another Pew study…10 states in a big heap of doodoo.
WashJeff on November 11, 2009 at 4:22 PM
Waterloo.
davek70 on November 11, 2009 at 4:22 PM
Not to celebrate anything particular, mind you, just because I like the video.
amerpundit on November 11, 2009 at 4:22 PM
Democrat Civil War?
Enoxo on November 11, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Time to clean house, I say.
UltimateBob on November 11, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Even dynamite wouldn’t be enough to knock the incumbent dem out of my district. Term limits FTW!
innominatus on November 11, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Time to do something radical, I’d say. We simply can’t continue with the ping-pong politics between the parties.
No wonder we’re all grouchy.
AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 4:24 PM
I am afraid it is time to impose term limits…the chances of unseating an established porker is so difficult, that it is time to send these professional fund raisers home.
It was never intended for congressional seats to be a full time life long, job…let alone one that makes you a multi-millionaire…
right2bright on November 11, 2009 at 4:24 PM
And EVERY TWO YEARS FROM HEREAFTER!
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on November 11, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Dang. I always thought that Bush was an idiot, but his evil plan to win back the Congress by blowing up the economy just may work…
Bleeds Blue on November 11, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Yes. The founding fathers never wanted to create a political class more interested in getting along with each other than to care about the folks back home. I personally like Virginia’s term limit for Governor (one term and you’re out for at least four years before you can get your second) but the political class would never stand for having to work for a living.
Bottom line: Teddy Kennedy, Robert Byrd, and John Dingle have all made the Congress their profession. That just isn’t right.
highhopes on November 11, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Good stuff, thanks AP.
Term Limits: it…is..(past)…time….!
ted c on November 11, 2009 at 4:25 PM
With Reid fast tracking the health care bill it’ll be too late. Unless we bring in real conservatives who will repeal it (and that will require a Presidential veto override) we’re screwed.
Skywise on November 11, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Rush made a great point today; if the health care bill is so awesome and the key to re-election, why not wait and pass it right before the elections next fall?
BadgerHawk on November 11, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Grouchy? Speak for yourself. I’m pissed off beyond all measure with the Democrats destroying this nation. To call my mood grouchy would be akin to stating that Nancy Pelosi has had a little bit of cosmetic surgery or that Jack Murtha has introduced a little bit of pork into bills.
highhopes on November 11, 2009 at 4:28 PM
We are all grouchy cause we have less freedom. Conservatives cannot live in states with less laws and regulations cause illiberals want more regulations and taxes imposed at the federal level.
Illiberals cannot create their socialists paradise for the country since there are enough conservatives to stop them.
To be less grouchy, do all this stuff at the state level. Illiberals will be free to be socialists in some states, and conservatives shoot guns, preach the bible and hang out with the hoi polli.
WashJeff on November 11, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Long term it probably would be, as people were forced to become more and more dependent upon government.
Slavery is, after all, the easiest way to get votes.
lorien1973 on November 11, 2009 at 4:28 PM
If we’d have had reasonable term limits, I’m guessing the Federal Government would be a lot smaller today than it is.
Asher on November 11, 2009 at 4:29 PM
I used (used, mind you) to believe we didn’t need term limits becuase the voter was the natural term limiter as intended.
I recently read a poll where people were asked if they would be happy if their Rep were replaced with a random name from the local phone book………..56% were in favor.
We need to get rid of career politicians and reduce the salaries for all positions.
JoeinTX on November 11, 2009 at 4:29 PM
I think liberals have reached the conclusion that the biggest flaw with “big government” is that its optional. Not enough people -want- to be on SCHIP or on welfare. Not enough people want to be on food stamps.
So, they’ve reached only conclusion possible to them. Give them no choice.
lorien1973 on November 11, 2009 at 4:30 PM
OT: Another Pew study…10 states in a big heap of doodoo.
WashJeff on November 11, 2009 at 4:22 PM
And most vote blue. Let’s connect those dots!
NebCon on November 11, 2009 at 4:30 PM
His other point was even better- that Clinton was on the hill encouraging Democrats to become Kamikaze’s for the good of the party.
highhopes on November 11, 2009 at 4:30 PM
Because, silly….. don’t you know, people are dropping dead in the streets! We HAVE to get this healthcare reform legislation passed IMMEDIATELY to save Americans’ lives!
UltimateBob on November 11, 2009 at 4:30 PM
They figure people will become dependent upon the government and will therefore vote for the people who give them more and more entitlements.
amerpundit on November 11, 2009 at 4:31 PM
How many idiots score a 1200 on their SATs? Bush’s problem was always his ability to communicate, not his intellect.
BadgerHawk on November 11, 2009 at 4:32 PM
Just as long as it holds when time for re-election comes around.
Mr. Joe on November 11, 2009 at 4:32 PM
Three terms for a senator is much too long. The President can only serve two terms or 10 years. Two terms for a senator is ample time to be a Public Servent, then they should get the gold watch and a thank you, no gold plated retirement program.
belad on November 11, 2009 at 4:32 PM
http://www.veteranoutrage.com
Im sorry to say this but we
MUST for the good of our nation
THROW OUT
ALL incumbants from both parties..
And i do mean all of them..
Its the only way to clean up this stinking
cesspool called congress..
Sometimes you have to disinfect before you can rebuild.
All politicians are so corrupt now..
even if we scream they dont listen..
the only way is for a massive REVOLT..
first at the ballot box..
throw ALL of the BUMS out of office..
Then if they still dont listen well then
we might have to do something else..
But we can sure clean house..
Just remeber if their in office
THROW THEM OUT..
ALL OF THEM..
veteranoutrage on November 11, 2009 at 4:32 PM
Hey lorien1973, what’s up with Florida being in deep poop with it state’s financing?
WashJeff on November 11, 2009 at 4:33 PM
My fine state of Wisconsin is relying on some of the same budgetary gimmicks as California. They continue to increase the anti-business climate begun under Gov. Doyle, and just upped property taxes.
It’s madness.
BadgerHawk on November 11, 2009 at 4:33 PM
It’s a “vote the rascals” out mood, for sure.
AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 4:35 PM
Never mind his SAT scores. He graduated with a B.A. in history from Yale and an MBA from Harvard Business School.
amerpundit on November 11, 2009 at 4:35 PM
As Mr. Limbaugh said…if it’s such a good election strategy, why no hold off until early next fall and herald the triumph?
SouthernGent on November 11, 2009 at 4:35 PM
My property taxes are going up this next year…yuck!! I live in MN…
deidre on November 11, 2009 at 4:36 PM
As we saw after the 2008 election, the majority of Obama voters thought they were voting the bums in Congress out by voting for Democrats. It should not be a surprise that they are unhappy that instead of less of the corruption and incompetence they saw in 2006-8 they got more by giving these same people stronger majorities in congress…
18-1 on November 11, 2009 at 4:37 PM
Lots of economic retards in the current administration graduated from ivy league schools as well, which is why I choose not to use that particular piece of information.
BadgerHawk on November 11, 2009 at 4:37 PM
Crist and Rubio – both “fiscal cons” ? LOL
Not sure. I didn’t realize it so bad. I know unemployment is at like 11% for the state and we are highly dependent on tourist dollars which are probably not coming in right now.
lorien1973 on November 11, 2009 at 4:37 PM
I had a couple of my business locations allegedly increase in value by 33%. I guess I should sell not that the property is worth soooooo much more. Mr. Assesor said so. IL is illin’
WashJeff on November 11, 2009 at 4:38 PM
I confess, I’ve never really understood this logic. Passing a big liberal wish-list program will please many Democrats, but will it please them more than it’ll drive Republicans and conservative-leaning independents into fits of rage? The surest way to kick the GOP’s enthusiasm level up from 58 percent to the mid- or high 60s would be to pass some monster health-care takeover. Which will be a small consolation once the law is on the books, but even so, why is the left so confident that passage is a net vote-gainer for them?
Because you don’t understand the true motive. It is to can power and destroy capitalism. Pure and simple. short term pain for long term gain. It is sacrificing you pawn to advance your queen. the dems are playing chess and the GOp are playing checkers.
unseen on November 11, 2009 at 4:38 PM
My family might come on down this winter\spring…we will see what we can do.
WashJeff on November 11, 2009 at 4:39 PM
Nancy ‘Heavensgate’ Pelosi would like a word with you about taking away her signature accomplishment.
18-1 on November 11, 2009 at 4:39 PM
Never mind his SAT scores. He graduated with a B.A. in history from Yale and an MBA from Harvard Business School.
amerpundit on November 11, 2009 at 4:35 PM
And that is the problem. Our nation is controlled by ivy leaguers with no idea what common sense is or means.
unseen on November 11, 2009 at 4:40 PM
Hell yes, it’s time. And that will win over tons of independents for the GOP if they make term limits a major campaign issue next fall. It’s embarrassing that we have some politicians in DC who’ve held their elected office longer than Obama’s been alive.
Doughboy on November 11, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Pew says:
- Shrinking population (not height)
- Funemployment
- Spending like crazy during the boom.
- 2nd highlest foreclosure rate
WashJeff on November 11, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Screw terms limits. No reps with ivy league degrees would work better.
WashJeff on November 11, 2009 at 4:42 PM
I went to universal studios earliier this year. I’ve never ever seen the place so dead. Every line was like a 3-5 minute wait. No hour waits for anything. We did both parks a single day. It was crazy.
Those parks are really small – and not much there really – if you don’t have to wait. With all the people and wait times, it’s easy to imagine they are so much bigger.
I’m of the mind that these state and federal governments are going to collapse under the weight of their own debt in a few years. So these rankings like Pew are silly. No one expects the elected people to do anything. The people won’t vote people in who will fix it. If you put people in place who will fix it, people will complain that they are, uh, fixing things. We are on a very slow motion train wreck and it’s really quite sad.
lorien1973 on November 11, 2009 at 4:43 PM
AP, why do you ask such difficult questions?
They’re still trying to figure out why everyone doesn’t love their stupid bills.
blink on November 11, 2009 at 4:43 PM
It’s a vote-gainer for liberals over the long term. Public health care is a massive government program that would be impossible to destroy once on the books. In the short term, Democrats would get bad election results, but in the long term, they would succeed, because a government program this enormous would inevitably swing the entire country to the left over time. It’s like a suicide attack. Over the short term, you lose a few guys, but over the long term, your worldview wins out as you exhaust your opponent.
dave_lantos on November 11, 2009 at 4:43 PM
For years, I’ve been posting the fact that you need only look at Michigan for the indicator for the rest of the country. It is about five years ahead of the national curve. Sadly, they are not thriving which means the nation will be in much worse shape before things get better.
In other words, under Jennifer Granholm, Michigan was anti-business before being anti-business was cool.
highhopes on November 11, 2009 at 4:43 PM
Claire Wolfe would think so.
http://gos.sbc.edu/w/wolfe.html
SirGawain on November 11, 2009 at 4:44 PM
Saw this one at Drudge. Whoever was quoting (liberal nitwits at) Gallup with their 54% O’Baama approval rating was dreaming.
Jaibones on November 11, 2009 at 4:44 PM
The liberals think that socialized medicine is a winner is because whenever they poll their buddies “Do you want free healthcare?” there is a 99% approval rating.
pedestrian on November 11, 2009 at 4:45 PM
The is just straight Rahm propanda..nothing more. Rahm has to threaten and propagandize to get his bosses stuff done
Logic is not required, in fact not desired.
r keller on November 11, 2009 at 4:46 PM
They’ll have control over every aspect of our lives. That’s the end game. Throw in a couple of new lefty Supremes between now and then, and we are pretty much toast.
fogw on November 11, 2009 at 4:46 PM
I’m not surprised WI is in there. They suck big time when it comes to taxes. I’m not so sure I want to go back and live there when hubby retires, until he does he is bound to WI income taxes. Even though we are out of state if we buy a car we have to claim it on our taxes, so we just skip the state we are in and do WI taxes.
Brat4life on November 11, 2009 at 4:46 PM
Voters do not hold their elected officials accountable. That is why the system breaks down. It is true that the President and Congress have limited ability to influence the global economy but they do have some influence and far more than the individual citizen. They need to be good stewards of the influence they have and they have squandered the public trust for their own benefit. I would honestly like to see a clean sweep of Congress in 2010. The number of corrupt politicians who would be ousted far outweighs the few legitimate individuals.
highhopes on November 11, 2009 at 4:47 PM
Oh wow. Just give it up already. Bush left months ago. You might want to get some help for you lingering BDS.
terryannonline on November 11, 2009 at 4:47 PM
I doubt florida is losing population. We get the population, too bad they are all jerry springer guests. The type of economy here (tourist) lends itself to cretins.
Urban sprawl was a big issue here. Developers made millions of these subdevelopments everywhere with empty lots ready for houses. Now that the boom is over, lots of them sit empty – or with half built houses on them. On my way to work, I drive past 2 of them and a big commercial site that died at the end of 2008. It’s a cemetery now. And it’s up for sale. Same 50 bags of concrete (?) are sitting in the middle of the lot for over a year.
I’m also surprised to realize that the state repaving my section of US301 4 times in the past year isn’t profitable. LOL
lorien1973 on November 11, 2009 at 4:48 PM
California didn’t revolt on taxes until Prop 13. State seizure of healthcare, IMO, is the Prop 13 of national policy.
highhopes on November 11, 2009 at 4:49 PM
That’s good on the parks, my wife hates crowds.
Ditto on the “collapse under the weight of their own debt in a few years.” In a couple weeks I am going to pay the final half of property taxes in C[r]ook county, IL for 6 buildings. Three buildings (around 10K sq ft warehouse-like buildings) come to $89,000 (or $178,000 for the whole year). And IL still cannot pay the bills????
WashJeff on November 11, 2009 at 4:49 PM
I’m starting to think that having the Democrats pass Health Care Deform using the reconcilliation process is the best thing that can happen.
It will expire in 5 years, unless re-authorized. With the current bills, taxes start immediately, but benefits don’t start phasing in until 4 and 5 years out. People will be upset with the taxes, but no constuencies dependant on the handouts will have developed yet.
With Republican gains in the House and Senate, and possibly even a Republican in the White House 5 years from now. There is very little chance they will be able to re-authorize this beast.
Throuw in the growing disgust many independants are having regarding the tactics used by the Democrats to pass this, and 5 years to get more familiar with all the hidden gotchas in it.
MarkTheGreat on November 11, 2009 at 4:50 PM
BREAKING on Drudge:
Enoxo on November 11, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Or have it go into effect immediately, rather than waiting until 2013.
Of course, we already know the answer to that: the Dims want to make sure Obama gets re-elected before people get to actually experience the joys of government-run healthcare. If they find out how badly they’re going to be screwed over before then, it might hurt Barry’s re-election chances. Also, while they’re delaying the start of the healthcare program until 2013, they’re starting the taxes for the program right away. That’s one of the (many) accounting gimmicks they used to keep the CBO numbers down so they could pretend the bill will be “deficit neutral.”
AZCoyote on November 11, 2009 at 4:51 PM
If the AP and their “grouchy Americans who love Obama” and Bleeds Blue are any indication, the Republicans are in great shape for next year.
Schadenfreude on November 11, 2009 at 4:51 PM
If the sun went nova tomorrow, you would find some way to blame it on Bush.
Your boy ruined the economy, own it, rejoice in it as he does.
MarkTheGreat on November 11, 2009 at 4:51 PM
Wow. The meds wore off, did they?
lorien1973 on November 11, 2009 at 4:52 PM
past time for term limits
MarkTheGreat on November 11, 2009 at 4:52 PM
I would like someone to explain to me how one man can perceived to have so much power….that doesn’t hold.
terryannonline on November 11, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Me thinks someone is scared of what is going to happen in next year’s elections. Either that or it’s cause Sarah Palin will be hitting most of the news shows on Fox in the next few weeks.
Brat4life on November 11, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Sure you are. Florida isn’t called God’s waiting room for nothin’. ;-)
The challenge for Florida is the fact that so much of the economy relies on discretionary dollars for time shares, second homes, vacations, etc. Those dollars are, in fact, fewer than in times past and all the NYC Jews living in Palm Beach will not make up for the loss. Throw in over-speculation about the desire to own a home in Florida and things really get hard.
highhopes on November 11, 2009 at 4:54 PM
This so-called fury is directed only at Pubs.
Just as simplesimon, crr6, Blue Fins, and all the other lihgs who post here.
They’re winning! (accurate figures aren’t necessary–they only get in the way)
Liam on November 11, 2009 at 4:56 PM
Derangement alert!
Even if Bush “blew up” the economy – there was an easy fix if Obama had simply gone for it.
But he went for the wrong solution. When the economy is in the dumps is no time to pass a $1T Democratic Re-Election Act and reward Socialist Special Interests under the guise of a “stimulus” … a stimulus, by the way – that has since been exposed as a complete fraud. No problem – unemployment got ya down? Break out the Obama Stimulus Calculator – a super-top-secret jewel of modern wizardry, powered by a Unicorn Chip discovered by Axlerod and capable of crapping out imaginary numbers such as “jobs saved or created” …
I hear they may go prime time next year with a new version of this thing – one that will calculate how much weight an individual “lost or didn’t gain”.
The fact is … Obama has put this economy into the doldrums with his Socialist policies and … Socialism and Capitalism don’t mix well. There will be no “up tick” in the economy because we can rely on Obama to continue to enact Socialists policies that will only make things worse.
Add to that … the fact that he’s a complete incompetent and people know that now … capitalists are holding their money close to their chest – and will continue to do so.
HondaV65 on November 11, 2009 at 4:57 PM
Pork works against that. Voters are bribable.
a capella on November 11, 2009 at 4:57 PM
This is the same picture I use when discussing the nation’s path with people.
It doesn’t matter how slowly the train is moving, or which party is the conductor. The train’s still moving towards a canyon with no bridge across it. The only way to stop the train is to throw something on the tracks in front of it and derail the entitlement locomotive, but no one in power has the balls to do it. It will be painful in the short term and the people or person who do it will not be looked upon kindly for many years.
So the train moves forward.
BadgerHawk on November 11, 2009 at 4:58 PM
They are. Or at least conservatives and those offering change will. Few are happy with the status quo under the dithering filthy lying coward and his corrupt party owning the entire process. Few are happy that something as sweeping as nationalization of healthcare can happen without bipartisan support. The mood right now is to throw the incumbents out of office. It won’t be pretty but it needs to happen.
highhopes on November 11, 2009 at 4:58 PM
Yeah that’s pretty much what I said.
I mean net loss of population. :P Florida always gains population. People love the, um,
nice weatherhumidityhurricanesmosquitosalligatorsmoronic tourists (no offense :P)chicks in bikinis.lorien1973 on November 11, 2009 at 4:59 PM
Won’t mean a thing unless it makes it into the voting booths next November.
Dave R. on November 11, 2009 at 5:02 PM
I guess that’s because you’re so much smarter, truly WONDERFUL!
I bet you top your guy in the White House, don’t you?
Now, like your buddy simplesimon, tell us us all just how delightful you are to have around! Tell us, lib, how your liberal groupthink way is superior to the minds of free-thinking individuals!
Oh, tell us, wise sage master!
Liam on November 11, 2009 at 5:02 PM
The comments to the link quoted in the update:
http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/health-care/poll-gop-holds-double-digit-enthusiasm-edge-over-dems/
…are pretty funny.
Purple Fury on November 11, 2009 at 5:03 PM
Judging by the comments. Their “Greg” is roughly equivalent to our AP. Eeyores.
They are stealing AP’s shtick!
lorien1973 on November 11, 2009 at 5:06 PM
This anti-encumbent thing is all treason.
Just ask Bleeds Blue, crr6, simplesimon, orange, etc.
Note: hating Pubs is NOT treason. It’s a higher form of patriotism!
Liam on November 11, 2009 at 5:23 PM
it’s gonna be a blood bath.
jhffmn on November 11, 2009 at 5:25 PM
I think the Democrats utter dishonest strategy on these bills is what’s going to save us.
They deliberately push out the most heineous freedom crushing portion of the bill out to keep the 10 year CBO estimate artificially low.
So, we’re saved from the “Can never roll back an Entitlement” rule when we take Congress back in 2010 and hopefully the White House in 2012. We can rollback these monstrosities before they ever really get implemented.
p0s3r on November 11, 2009 at 5:35 PM
I sure hope so!
Liam on November 11, 2009 at 5:36 PM
How come we haven’t seen you at any of the threads honoring our military today?
Oh, that’s right. You’re “patriotic”.
Del Dolemonte on November 11, 2009 at 5:47 PM
The entrenched bureaucrats and lobbyist write the 2000+ page bills behind closed doors that no one reads before voting on them, why just pick on the politicians…?
Seven Percent Solution on November 11, 2009 at 5:48 PM
The Democrats just refuse to get out of their own way.
Terrye on November 11, 2009 at 5:51 PM
A fix…
Liam on November 11, 2009 at 6:01 PM
Libs are what they are: hateful vermin without thought or real ideas, insects who spew only hate.
Liam on November 11, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Quit with all the parsing and trying to read the tea leaves on the Democratic push to pass OBamaCare. All the liberal headfakes about handwringing are simply to lull us into complacency and that it is doomed.
Not. It will get passed. Nelson’s statement said “strong public option”, an intentional qualifier…….he will easily be bought off to support a “weak” one, and Lieberman will simply get the insurance industry in his state paid off and he will be on board. Trust me, it is a done deal. Snowe will be a cupcake.
It is about ‘spreading the wealth’ and control. They will do anything being this close. Polls be damned. Soros is going after the ones in the house that voted against it.
Starlink on November 11, 2009 at 6:03 PM
His other point was even better- that Clinton was on the hill encouraging Democrats to become Kamikaze’s for the good of the party.
highhopes on November 11, 2009 at 4:30 PM
He made a third great point. The man is on a roll. Reporter from his hometown paper was told at his doc’s office only 3 H1N1 shots available. Could not give it to him despite being in the over 65 high risk group. Must Call County Health Dept. They said no,……only children and those pregnant. Observation: Kathleen Sebelius directs distribution, “rationing” and this amounts to “death panel” bureaucratic decisions of a botched program already. So what if you are over 65 and get it? Too bad…. Imagine calling your County Health Dept, then HHS on anything….
Starlink on November 11, 2009 at 6:11 PM
You remind me of a nun; None of this, none of that; And your verbiage would please everybody in church!
Cybergeezer on November 11, 2009 at 6:15 PM
On TERM LIMITS:
There’s a serious problem with term limits in Washington. New members of Congress, by necessity, are captive to something far worse than lobbyists… experienced capitol staffers and lifetime agency bureaucrats, who have their own powers and agendas.
Indeed, what Congress actually votes on is mostly researched and written by this elite crowd, with the help of lobbyists, for sure.
In fact, a lobbyists dream scenario would be a constant revolving door of voting members, where they could focus almost entirely on lobbying staff and bureaucrats. And, they wouldn’t have to contribute as much to elections, which is a good third of their overhead.
I’d far prefer term limits on the non-elected, who do far more damage than even the worse elected member can do, coupled with an active, informed electorate who’ll kick the bad ones out every cycle.
Personall
TXUS on November 11, 2009 at 6:23 PM
Obama’s change he can believe in in 2010.
Vote the democrat turds out in 2010.
On the swine flu: So far in 2009, the H1N1 virus has killed 4,000, a typical flu season 25,000 people die. Never let a crisis go to waste……..say, by hyping this swine flu to assist in passing gov’t run healthcare?
As Obama said about his presidency: “We acted stupidly”
dthorny on November 11, 2009 at 6:46 PM
When they try to outlaw disagreeing with their policies and have the guns of government pointed at everyone, you’ll know then.
Good Lt on November 11, 2009 at 6:49 PM
EVERYTHING is above his paygrade…and his knowledge. Nothing but fluff with the undocumented president.
Obama is like a Christmas gift box filled with foam packing nuts, once you get below and dig in……just empty.
dthorny on November 11, 2009 at 6:54 PM
Isn’t it amazing the only way democrats get things done is behind closed doors in secret, lying to “blue dog democrats”, lying to the American people, manipulation, judicial activism, creating ridiculous laws that destroy our liberty and freedom and never by the will of the people?
dthorny on November 11, 2009 at 6:58 PM
Lindsey Grahamnesty got his sorry ass CENSURED by the South Carolina GOP for being a RINO.
nelsonknows on November 11, 2009 at 7:12 PM
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