By that logic, all Muslims should be considered a threat to national security. You aren’t necessarily wrong, just curious how you would go about dealing with America’s Muslim problem.

highhopes on November 11, 2009 at 2:39 PM

But they are a threat. The verse of the sword IS TREASON.
The problem is treated at the root. If somebody claims to be a mohammedan, then how did they take their oath without mental reservation or purpose of evasion? It’s really simple, if you would swear under false pretenses then you have committed a federal crime and I get to remove you from the situation. There’s your choice Islam, deny your faith or deny your oath to the US. There are consequences.
 
FREEDOM!

It’s a bit of a bugbear for me at this point. That alone was enough, and should have been, enough to get him an order to stand in a photograph or get out of the army with a dishonorable discharge or brig time if he refused the order.

SarahW on November 11, 2009 at 2:17 PM

I was surprised when I heard this too. Unit photo, group, staff whatever, you will stand there and be photographed, that’s the rules. You can’t get away with “she’s a girl, I can’t be seen with her” that’s BS. His FIRST refusal would have brought a counseling session, any further problem or sniff of a problem and he would have been explaining himself to a star figure. From that meeting he goes to a weather station in the arctic circle or he goes home, end of story. The gen-gen doesn’t do drama queens.

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I worked at White Sands Missile Range as a G.I from 1964–1966–and then as a civilian contractor employee until my retirement in 2007. The above excuses about the Military Intelligence on a post being unable to intercept and monitor communications is a REAL LOAD OF C**P.
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It was always made clear to us that ALL COMMUNICATIONS WERE SUBJECT TO MONITORING AND RECORDING. And we were told “up front” about this every year during security briefings–never say or write anything that could compromise security on non-secure phones or computers.
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Post intelligence on Ft. Hood or at Walter Reed Hospital had every legal and security right to monitor the good Major’s e-mails, phone / cell phone use, and probably could open his “snail mail”. These are a few of the rights you give up in the military and when you work on a military installation.
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I call BULLS**T on these “fairy stories” about being unable to monitor what was going on. Politically “correct” actions brought us this disaster–and our soldiers and civilians paid in blood and with their lives.
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John Bibb
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rocketman on November 11, 2009 at 1:45 PM

I second those remarks. The communications units on EVERY government installation can and do monitor any and all communications whether it’s phone, mail, email, chat, sms, cell, blog, courier, or smoke signal.
 
This lie about “how could we have known” is pure unadulterated horseshit.

But members of terror task forces aren’t allowed to share such information with their agencies, unless they get permission from the FBI, which leads the task forces.

I thought that’s why we now have the DHS? Wasn’t it supposed to be an information cross referencing clearing house and the bridge that lets anyone relevant know what’s going on?

Shouldn’t this also come up in his yearly security clearance review thing? Or do they only do that with contractors?

- The Cat

If this is the case … let me teach you something.

Le Placard is an 2001 French film where a guy will get canned from a job but before this happens he spreads rumor that he is gay. He does this to shield himself from being fired. It worked. The guys that would fire him stand down because if they did then they think this would show them to be not tolerant, blah blah blah, etc.

What a ruse. What morons we’ve become.

This is why Ann Coulter is brilliant. Her recent column states that Muslims have surpassed gays, blacks, etc from being the pitiful minority.

Thomas Sowell states that this guy Husan may be free one day, and even greeted with a hero’s welcome in some foreign country.

It could happen with the sick culture we’ve become.

hit a hot spot with a dolt

I bet you still stick your fingers in fire moron

or maybe you just consider the sensibilities of our enemies despite hundreds of cases proving otherwise

add this, that pos Ted Kennedy should be dug up and chucked into an unknown grave instead lying with true heroes that he had no trouble with adding to their peril

if I have an opportunity I will trod on his grave

Why couldn’t the military have people sign a sworn statement accompanying their oath that their oath takes precedence to any other allegience. If they won’t sign it they don’t get in.

txmomof6 on November 11, 2009 at 5:49 PM

Islam condones lying to the infidels under oath for the purposes of jihad.

I have the opposite reaction. I think they are spying willy-nilly and without good reason in many cases. However, the idiots don’t really know what to do with the information.
AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 9:48 AM

You know this….how? Please provide links that show what information they a gathering and thus what leads you to draw this conclusion. Seems somebody watches too many Oliver Stone movies.

You know who else was born in the US but grew up overseas among American-hating Muslims? Anybody care to hazard a guess? Here’s a hint, it is somebody who denies that Hasan was a terrorist.

highhopes on November 11, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Are you referring perchance to the person our morning radio talk-show host calls our “undocumented president”?

By that logic, all Muslims should be considered a threat to national security. You aren’t necessarily wrong, just curious how you would go about dealing with America’s Muslim problem.

highhopes on November 11, 2009 at 2:39 PM

How does the FBI deal with members of the Aryan Nation?

slam and Muslims are different. Islam clearly calls for the kiling of infidels. Very few Muslims are fulfilling their religious obligations.

We cannot declare war on Islam itself. If we do, Muslims will have only two choices. Join the infidels or kill the infidels. Right now, they have a third way, which is basically to ignore their holy obligation to kill.

July 10 on November 11, 2009 at 3:33 PM

Winner!!! True Islam teaches that you are either all in, or you are an infidel. No room for “cafeteria Muslims” in Islam. If you are a true Muslim you follow ALL the teachings of the Koran. Just like if you are true Christian you follow ALL the teachings of the New Testament.

No matter how you rationalize this one point is clear: We have been attacked by a terrorist inside our Nation on Obama’s watch. Plain and simple.

Key West Reader on November 11, 2009 at 9:42 AM

And THAT, my friends, is what NO ONE in Barry’s administration wants to acknowledge. He campaigned on the fact that “the war on terror” was exacerbating the problems the US was dealing with in the world, and that he was going to change the tone. He hoped his apology tour would lead to “forgiveness”. So the LAST thing he wants on his record/legacy is an actual terrorist attack having occurred on US soil on HIS watch. It will show that his policies are a failure. (stating the obvious) He will do everything in his power to ensure this gets classified as something other than a “terrorist attack”

The assessment concluded Hasan did not merit further investigation — in large part because his communications with the imam were centered on a research paper about the effects of combat in Iraq and Afghanistan and the investigator determined that Hasan was in fact working on such a paper, the officials said.

I doubt the FBI could have taken it any further, after having been given the all-clear from the DCIS. The question remains, though, why even supposedly “innocuous” emails were allowed between a known terrorist and a Muslim Army officer.

Nichevo on November 11, 2009 at 11:15

Then we take the question to the next level. What on earth authority does an inflammatory imam living in another country have to offer in this area of “research”?

Something is very, very wrong with our present counterterrorism effort if contacts between a military officer and a known radical imam in Yemen gets shrugged off like this, especially with a figure likely part of the 9/11 attacks.

It all started with the Church Committee.

And the P.C. poison responsible for this slaughter has been promoted most vociferously by “healer” Barry.

profitsbeard on November 11, 2009 at 10:56 AM

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By that logic, all Muslims should be considered a threat to national security. You aren’t necessarily wrong, just curious how you would go about dealing with America’s Muslim problem.

highhopes on November 11, 2009 at 2:39 PM

Jonah Goldberg wrote about this issue yesterday.

Islam and Muslims are different. Islam clearly calls for the kiling of infidels. Very few Muslims are fulfilling their religious obligations.

We cannot declare war on Islam itself. If we do, Muslims will have only two choices. Join the infidels or kill the infidels. Right now, they have a third way, which is basically to ignore their holy obligation to kill.