Pentagon: No one told us Hasan was e-mailing the enemy

posted at 9:30 am on November 11, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

In the wake of the 9/11 attacks, we discovered that a failure to “connect the dots” left America unable to defend itself against 19 lunatics armed with boxcutters.  The Fort Hood massacre had far fewer casualties, but all of them could have been avoided had the FBI informed the Pentagon that one of its high-ranking officers had a new al-Qaeda pen pal in Yemen.  The Wall Street Journal reports that the Pentagon never heard from the FBI or other intelligence services that Major Nidal Hasan had begun corresponding with a radical Islamist imam in the hotbed of al-Qaeda terrorism:

The Pentagon said it was never notified by U.S. intelligence agencies that they had intercepted emails between the alleged Fort Hood shooter and an extremist imam until after last week’s bloody assaults, raising new questions about whether the government could have helped prevent the attack.

A top defense official said federal investigators didn’t tell the Pentagon they were looking into months of contacts between Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan and Anwar al-Awlaki. The imam knew three of the Sept. 11 hijackers and hailed Maj. Hasan as a “hero” after the shooting last week at Fort Hood that left 13 people dead. …

A person familiar with the matter said a Pentagon worker on a terrorism task force overseen by the Federal Bureau of Investigation was told about the intercepted emails several months ago. But members of terror task forces aren’t allowed to share such information with their agencies, unless they get permission from the FBI, which leads the task forces.

In this case, the Pentagon worker, an employee from the Defense Criminal Investigative Service, helped make the assessment that Maj. Hasan wasn’t a threat, and the FBI’s “procedures for sharing the information were never used,” said the person familiar with the matter.

This is absurd.  Anwar Aulaqi gets a number of mentions in the 9/11 Commission report for his contacts with at least two of the 9/11 hijackers.  Anyone communicating with Aulaqi after the attacks, especially after Aulaqi relocated to Yemen and established his Islamist jihadist website and recruitment efforts, should have been immediately reported to the Army’s chain of command, especially a high-ranking officer.

From the 9/11 Commission report, page 221:

Another potentially significant San Diego contact for Hazmi and Mihdhar was Anwar Aulaqi, an imam at the Rabat mosque. Born in New Mexico and thus a U.S. citizen, Aulaqi grew up in Yemen and studied in the United States on a Yemeni government scholarship. We do not know how or when Hazmi and Mihdhar first met Aulaqi. The operatives may even have met or at least talked to him the same day they first moved to San Diego. Hazmi and Mihdhar reportedly respected Aulaqi as a religious figure and developed a close relationship with him.33

When interviewed after 9/11, Aulaqi said he did not recognize Hazmi’s name but did identify his picture. Although Aulaqi admitted meeting with Hazmi several times, he claimed not to remember any specifics of what they discussed. He described Hazmi as a soft-spoken Saudi student who used to appear at the mosque with a companion but who did not have a large circle of friends.34

Aulaqi left San Diego in mid-2000, and by early 2001 had relocated to Virginia. As we will discuss later, Hazmi eventually showed up at Aulaqi’s mosque in Virginia, an appearance that may not have been coincidental. We have been unable to learn enough about Aulaqi’s relationship with Hazmi and Mihdhar to reach a conclusion.35

In sum, although the evidence is thin as to specific motivations, our overall impression is that soon after arriving in California, Hazmi and Mihdhar sought out and found a group of young and ideologically like-minded Muslims with roots in Yemen and Saudi Arabia, individuals mainly associated with Mohdar Abdullah and the Rabat mosque. The al Qaeda operatives lived openly in San Diego under their true names, listing Hazmi in the telephone directory. They managed to avoid attracting much attention.

And more from page 230:

At the Dar al Hijra mosque, Hazmi and Hanjour met a Jordanian named Eyad al Rababah. Rababah says he had gone to the mosque to speak to the imam, Aulaqi, about finding work. At the conclusion of services, which normally had 400 to 500 attendees, Rababah says he happened to meet Hazmi and Hanjour. They were looking for an apartment; Rababah referred them to a friend who had one to rent. Hazmi and Hanjour moved into the apartment, which was in Alexandria.75

Some FBI investigators doubt Rababah’s story. Some agents suspect that Aulaqi may have tasked Rababah to help Hazmi and Hanjour. We share that suspicion, given the remarkable coincidence of Aulaqi’s prior relationship with Hazmi. As noted above, the Commission was unable to locate and interview Aulaqi. Rababah has been deported to Jordan, having been convicted after 9/11 in a fraudulent driver’s license scheme.76

The Commission was unable to locate and interview Aulaqi, but Hasan found him without too much trouble.  The Commission also makes it clear that they themselves suspected Aulaqi of an operational role in 9/11, and that counterterrorism agents shared that suspicion.  This was no run-of-the-mill radical imam, but a man suspected of helping to murder almost 3,000 people in the worst terrorist attack in history.

And eight years later, no one thought it was suspicious or worthy of further investigation that a high-ranking officer in the Army was communicating with a man suspected of being one of the architects of 9/11?

There’s a failure to connect dots, and then there’s willful blindness.  This appears to be the latter.  Something is very, very wrong with our present counterterrorism effort if contacts between a military officer and a known radical imam in Yemen gets shrugged off like this, especially with a figure likely part of the 9/11 attacks.

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Epic fail.

flyawaybird on November 11, 2009 at 9:33 AM

Someone needs to be held accountable.

bridgetown on November 11, 2009 at 9:33 AM

Good lord – what is happening to this man’s Army?

jake-the-goose on November 11, 2009 at 9:34 AM

the most motivated everyone has been about this terrorist attack has been to cover their ass rather then make the choices to prevent the killing of 13 people.

rob verdi on November 11, 2009 at 9:34 AM

“We just killed the Patriot Act,” -Harry Reid.

Akzed on November 11, 2009 at 9:35 AM

I smell something fishy….I just can’t believe this was deliberately not told. I’m just confused about the whole situation.

deidre on November 11, 2009 at 9:35 AM

I’ve long thought that the intelligence gathering communities are fairly incompetent in the US. They are, in fact, gathering too much information, but the method for determining what is and what isn’t important seems to elude them.

AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 9:36 AM

We should really hold ice cream socials for AQ operatives in the Pentagon~!

blatantblue on November 11, 2009 at 9:36 AM

The Fort Hood massacre had far fewer casualties, but all of them could have been avoided had the FBI informed the Pentagon that one of its high-ranking officers had a new al-Qaeda pen pal in Yemen.

And, what exactly would the Army have done? I don’t think it would have mattered. The PC poison is killing our country.

jbh45 on November 11, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Maybe speed dating?

Bombs and crafts fairs?

blatantblue on November 11, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Great. It’s been more than eight years and we still haven’t gotten all the kinks ironed out of our intelligence apparatus. Hey, this gives me an idea: let’s let a massive gov’t bureaucracy handle our health care!

ncborn on November 11, 2009 at 9:38 AM

OT but here comes HarryCare—groan!!

deidre on November 11, 2009 at 9:38 AM

If the dots were connected – still nothing would have been done.

Can’t offend the “religion of peace” now, can we?

Rebar on November 11, 2009 at 9:39 AM

However, this case rests, so far, strictly with the Army, which DID have sufficient information. The Army needs to change its policy regarding Muslims serving. It’s ridiculous to ignore the signs that someone has shifted to radicalism and not discharge them accordingly.

Surely this event will trigger a change in thinking.

AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 9:39 AM

If Aulaqi is such a threat, why is he breathing and blogging in Yemen? Penpal US army officers from his old parish are probably the LEAST of our worries. I thought that we resolved to destroy Al Qaeda.

Chris_Balsz on November 11, 2009 at 9:40 AM

I blame Obama for this chilling climate of fear of reporting dangerous, terrorist and aberrant behavior.

darwin on November 11, 2009 at 9:40 AM

This is absurd.

So much of this case is absurd, from the bungled investigations to the ridiculous excuses being spun by the about PTSD. This case demonstrates a failure that started in the Bush administration and continued under Obama. Hasan’s behavior in 2009 was obviously a threat to national security.

Why was this man not stopped? Why did we lose so many people?

Those responsible for these extremely poor decisions and the policies that enabled them, must be identified and held responsible.

How many other time bombs are getting ready to blow, but are being coddled by this failed system?

We don’t need Congressional votes on Obamacare. We need effective, honest, televised Congressional hearings and action on our national security. What are the chances of that, Nancy?

Loxodonta on November 11, 2009 at 9:41 AM

May I suggest the unthinkable.

Complete Islamic infiltration in all levels of leadership including our military prior and post 9/11 with window dressing changes to quiet the masses.

A consistent downplaying of all attacks since 9/11 has to make you wonder if this is now what we are dealing with.

katy on November 11, 2009 at 9:41 AM

It all comes down to political correctness. That’s whats driving this type of behavior.

the_nile on November 11, 2009 at 9:41 AM

The Commission was unable to locate and interview Aulaqi, but Hasan found him without too much trouble.

It’s not very difficult! All you have to do is Google “Anwar al Awlaki” and you get to his website where you can “contact the Sheik”.

Buy Danish on November 11, 2009 at 9:41 AM

This is absurd.

Maybe, but it’s part of the defense/law enforcement firewall we prize in this country. Given that the FBI determined that there was nothing harmful in what Hasan was doing, alerting the Army to his lawful behavior would have been prejudicial to his career, and would certainly have been the sort of thing that some here bemoan Obama as doing as he marches toward some sort of totalitarian state.

There’s the Devil’s Advocate side of things — an argument with which some of our libertarian members here and the ACLU would agree.

unclesmrgol on November 11, 2009 at 9:42 AM

No matter how you rationalize this one point is clear: We have been attacked by a terrorist inside our Nation on Obama’s watch. Plain and simple.

Key West Reader on November 11, 2009 at 9:42 AM

It’s not very difficult! All you have to do is Google “Anwar al Awlaki” and you get to his website where you can “contact the Sheik”.

Buy Danish on November 11, 2009 at 9:41 AM

The internet certainly has made these twerps more accessible and, therefore, more influential.

AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 9:43 AM

It looks like Jamie Gorelick’s Wall is back up. That woman has done more to put our country in jeopardy than any other human. The results of her PC thinking are devasting. You could make the case that she is single handedly the cause of all of this mayhem and murder in the USA. You will find her name on the payroll of Freddie and Fannie. She is her own WAR.

BetseyRoss on November 11, 2009 at 9:43 AM

AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 9:39 AM

The Army takes orders from one Barry Obama. Only he can direct the Army to change it’s policy in this area.

Really Right on November 11, 2009 at 9:43 AM

…Or you could until today. For some strange reason the Iman’s site is ‘temporarily unavailable’.

Buy Danish on November 11, 2009 at 9:43 AM

Major Hasan and AQ members all sat in a circle and played the Name Game!

blatantblue on November 11, 2009 at 9:43 AM

CYA is really a tough job, isn’t it?
These buffoons had better get their act together because how much you want to bet their is another Hasaan just waiting to proceed and this time finish the job by sending himself to his 72 Helen Thomases.
I have no idea how Islamics feel about one man upmanship but I would think that there is another little man just waiting to prove that he can do it right and not end up paralyzed by a woman.

ORconservative on November 11, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Three wise monkeys.

OldEnglish on November 11, 2009 at 9:44 AM

all of them could have been avoided had the FBI informed the Pentagon that one of its high-ranking officers had a new al-Qaeda pen pal in Yemen.

a high-ranking officer in the Army was communicating with a man suspected of being one of the architects of 9/11

should have been immediately reported to the Army’s chain of command, especially a high-ranking officer.

Your post puts heavy emphasis on a false premise, namely, that an army major is a high-ranking officer. Majors are, at best, middle-ranking officers.

Out of 10 officer grades in the US army, major is the fourth lowest.

In the army medical corps, doctors generally start out as captains, one routine promotion away from major.

In the Pentagon, full colonels, two pay grades higher than majors, usuallty fetch coffee.

bgoldman on November 11, 2009 at 9:44 AM

No matter how you rationalize this one point is clear: We have been attacked by a terrorist inside our Nation on Obama’s watch. Plain and simple.

Key West Reader on November 11, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Exactly.

DrStock on November 11, 2009 at 9:45 AM

The “something very very wrong” is the PC bullshiite being foisted upon this nation by pantywaist leftoids who don’t want to offend mass-murderers. Stupid ROE in the warzone and limp wristed blindess domestically is going to get a lot of innocent Americans killed.

Bishop on November 11, 2009 at 9:46 AM

In the Pentagon, full colonels, two pay grades higher than majors, usuallty fetch coffee.

bgoldman on November 11, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Seriously? Man, that’s an expensive cuppa starbucks.

AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Well, nobody wants to be prosecuted for “spying” on Americans. There’s a chill wind blowing in from the left.

Kafir on November 11, 2009 at 9:47 AM

However, this case rests, so far, strictly with the Army, which DID have sufficient information. The Army needs to change its policy regarding Muslims serving. It’s ridiculous to ignore the signs that someone has shifted to radicalism and not discharge them accordingly.

Surely this event will trigger a change in thinking.

AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Did you miss this from Ed’s post?

A person familiar with the matter said a Pentagon worker on a terrorism task force overseen by the Federal Bureau of Investigation was told about the intercepted emails several months ago. But members of terror task forces aren’t allowed to share such information with their agencies, unless they get permission from the FBI, which leads the task forces.

Why do you keep claiming this has nothing to do with the FBI and it’s all the Army’s fault?

Explain, please.

Loxodonta on November 11, 2009 at 9:47 AM

This is disgusting. One life lost to terrorism is one life too many. The fact that this is being shrugged off by a lot of people is shameful.

What is going to take before people really start to care – a stadium getting hit, a shopping mall?

I miss feeling 100% safe under Bush. I don’t feel that way anymore.

gophergirl on November 11, 2009 at 9:47 AM

The Gorelick wall is back up and Americans are being killed by terrorists as a result.

BottomLine5 on November 11, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Well, nobody wants to be prosecuted for “spying” on Americans. There’s a chill wind blowing in from the left.

Kafir on November 11, 2009 at 9:47 AM

I have the opposite reaction. I think they are spying willy-nilly and without good reason in many cases. However, the idiots don’t really know what to do with the information.

AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 9:48 AM

This terrorist doesn’t get a look by the FBI for his terrorist retoric but this old drunk guy in Lehigh High Acres FL gets a visit from the FBI because he tried to send flowers to the terrorist.

Bicyea on November 11, 2009 at 9:49 AM

All this finger pointing is nauseating. If Hasan was arrested BEFORE the rampage, every liberal in America would be screaming racism and islamophobia

Bevan on November 11, 2009 at 9:49 AM

I have a relative who is a Marine colonel and he works at the Pentagon. I can assure you if anyone, and I mean anyone, ever told him to get coffee, the offender would find themselves forcibly turned inside out and drop kicked into next week.

Bishop on November 11, 2009 at 9:50 AM

There’s a failure to connect dots, and then there’s willful blindness.

And there’s a third alternative: aiding and abetting.

There’s so much cover-up and cover-your-a$$ going on that I would not be surprised to learn that somewhere along the chain there was a traitorous link.

IrishEi on November 11, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Why do you keep claiming this has nothing to do with the FBI and it’s all the Army’s fault?

Explain, please.

Loxodonta on November 11, 2009 at 9:47 AM

I suppose because the FBI found nothing particularly alarming in the e-mails. From what I read, the discussion was pretty benign.

However, the Army received numerous reports from his peers and others that something was very amiss. I tend to think that co-workers do not race around that institution tattle-taling for no reason. It should have carried a lot more weight.

Keep in mind, Lox. My knowledge of military comes strictly from the movies and a few stories from an ex-husband and father who served. I should probably not even venture an opinion.

AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 9:51 AM

It’s not very difficult! All you have to do is Google “Anwar al Awlaki” and you get to his website where you can “contact the Sheik”.

Buy Danish on November 11, 2009 at 9:41 AM

He needs to be contacted, alright. By Special Forces, stat.

TXUS on November 11, 2009 at 9:52 AM

Un-official WH statement:

“Well, it’s either Bush’s fault, or Jamie Gorelick’s fault.

But in no way is Obama or his Administration responsible for anything.

BTW, did you hear that Michael Jackson’s funeral cost $1,000,000? And what about the Prejean sex tape…wow!”

BobMbx on November 11, 2009 at 9:52 AM

May I suggest the unthinkable.

Complete Islamic infiltration in all levels of leadership including our military prior and post 9/11 with window dressing changes to quiet the masses.

A consistent downplaying of all attacks since 9/11 has to make you wonder if this is now what we are dealing with.

katy on November 11, 2009 at 9:41 AM

We have muslims now in all areas of government and in high areas of responsibility. I agree with you that this isn’t a fluke or just well-meaning muslims wanting to help the US.

Everything seems geared towards weakening our defenses and excusing and/or hiding any acts perpertrated by muslims.

darwin on November 11, 2009 at 9:53 AM

This morning on ABC radio news the reader announced that there was “more trouble for the Military” over what appeared to be more contacts with radicals by Major Hasan. But then said that the FBI had records of other contacts. The media is going to do everything they can to attribute this attack on military incompetence.

Cindy Munford on November 11, 2009 at 9:53 AM

‘Political Correctness’ continues to kill.

And the continued ‘willful blindness’ on display since the Fort Hood terrorist attack only signals that more terrorism and death are the inevitable result.

Midas on November 11, 2009 at 9:54 AM

The internet certainly has made these twerps more accessible and, therefore, more influential.
AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 9:43 AM

True, but on the other hand we get to see what they’re thinking. I read a bunch of his blog posts and he thinks that because Obama is weak (“on a short leash”) and because of our dismal economy, it’s a great opportunity for a victorious Islam.

It certainly blows the idiotic libtard theories about p.t.s.d. and extending a hand to our enemies right out of the water.

Buy Danish on November 11, 2009 at 9:55 AM

darwin on November 11, 2009 at 9:53 AM

Well put.

ORconservative on November 11, 2009 at 9:55 AM

I think they are spying willy-nilly and without good reason in many cases. However, the idiots don’t really know what to do with the information.

AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 9:48 AM

Please name one case of ‘willy-nilly’ spying on Americans or STFU.

thomasaur on November 11, 2009 at 9:55 AM

It certainly blows the idiotic libtard theories about p.t.s.d. and extending a hand to our enemies right out of the water.

Buy Danish on November 11, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Well, you’d hate my theory on the PTSD junk that initially came out. It’s pretty Dr. Phillish. :)

AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 9:57 AM

“Miss me yet?”
George W. Bush

Just sayin….

MikeA on November 11, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Please name one case of ‘willy-nilly’ spying on Americans or STFU.

thomasaur on November 11, 2009 at 9:55 AM

one time i was naked in the shower outside and this guy was in a tree above the shower looking down at me

i thought it was the FBI spying on me but it turned out to be lorien taking pictures

blatantblue on November 11, 2009 at 9:57 AM

I miss feeling 100% safe under Bush.

I don’t feel that way anymore.

gophergirl on November 11, 2009 at 9:47 AM

You have no reason to feel safe. In fact, if you are killed today by a Muslim, it’s your own fault. They have a pretty tough life, you know. Having to kill other people in order to get to heaven is not an easy thing to accomplish. You have to buy a gun or explosives, give away any frozen vegetables (so they don’t go to waste), furniture, etc. The logistics are just staggering.

BobMbx on November 11, 2009 at 9:58 AM

The media is going to do everything they can to attribute this attack on military incompetence.
Cindy Munford on November 11, 2009 at 9:53 AM

This is Iowahawks take on the media reaction, I guffawed at the NPR reaction:

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/

Bishop on November 11, 2009 at 9:59 AM

72 Helen Thomases!!!!

Now that’s funny!

Rovin on November 11, 2009 at 9:59 AM

The Jihadi-oil lobby in America has decades of influence, and it has long arms into the system, and it has powerful political allies. It knows when Americans are messing up their own system, and it knows very well how to push them over the cliff, into the abyss of economic calamity.

How is it that in our own military, we have been told that asking questions can put your career at risk? Apparently, people who thought Hasan was dangerous were discouraged from coming forward and thought they would not be taken seriously. All Americans have witnessed this as a top-down phenomenon with our Muslim President.

Are you allowed to ask about his birth certificate? No, because that makes you a “birther” Can you ask about his sealed records? No, then you’re racist. You can’t criticize him on policy, even as he steers this country off the cliff.

This is where PC has gotten us. Look how it’s working out with Jews in Israel. They are universally condemned for defending their recognized Jewish nation, after suffering the horrors of the Holocaust. They are “racists” after surviving real genocide? They get accused by a criminal mob of regional interlopers of the crimes that were carried out by their attackers before and now. So-called Palestinians are the Nazis. It makes me sick that we even negotiate with them.

We know what is right and wrong. We know who is evil. Enough pussyfooting around these issues. Our weakness is inviting exploitation and violence. This country is hanging on by a thread.

The first thing we do is initiate a sound energy policy in this country that will include domestic drilling for oil and national gas. For our economy and for our national security, it is time to slay the OPEC dragon once and for all.

alliebobbitt on November 11, 2009 at 9:59 AM

It certainly blows the idiotic libtard theories about p.t.s.d. and extending a hand to our enemies right out of the water.

Buy Danish on November 11, 2009 at 9:55 AM

There was a good expose on recording all calls overseas by government officials, capturing private phone calls. In fact, it was a huge story. The upshot was that a lot of personal privacy was, indeed, invaded.

AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Please name one case of ‘willy-nilly’ spying on Americans or STFU.

thomasaur on November 11, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Does strip-searching 80 year old ladies at airports because they’re wearing a legally purchased under-wire bra count as willy-nilly?

I think it does.

BobMbx on November 11, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Funny that my comment was withheld on a thread about PC killing Americans.

alliebobbitt on November 11, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Everything seems geared towards weakening our defenses and excusing and/or hiding any acts perpertrated by muslims.

darwin on November 11, 2009 at 9:53 AM

This is not by accident, indifference or ignorance. It is the dictates of the culture that is in power from below.
The coup of all coups. They knew the only way to over take the great satan was by deceit. Stealth.

katy on November 11, 2009 at 10:01 AM

I suppose because the FBI found nothing particularly alarming in the e-mails. From what I read, the discussion was pretty benign.

However, the Army received numerous reports from his peers and others that something was very amiss. I tend to think that co-workers do not race around that institution tattle-taling for no reason. It should have carried a lot more weight.

Keep in mind, Lox. My knowledge of military comes strictly from the movies and a few stories from an ex-husband and father who served. I should probably not even venture an opinion.

AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 9:51 AM

hasan was exchanging emails with Anwar Aulaqi. No matter how innocuous, that should have set off sirens. As Ed posted:

Anwar Aulaqi gets a number of mentions in the 9/11 Commission report for his contacts with at least two of the 9/11 hijackers. Anyone communicating with Aulaqi after the attacks, especially after Aulaqi relocated to Yemen and established his Islamist jihadist website and recruitment efforts, should have been immediately reported to the Army’s chain of command, especially a high-ranking officer.

I’m not into blaming Obama or Bush or anyone, YET. The problem existed over a few years, at least, but got much worse in the past several months. I want to know exactly what happened and who and the information and why the didn’t scream about this. Then, we can look at the “culture” of all departments involved and see if that had an impact. We need to turn this around ASAP, or there will be other terror strikes, and they may be a lot more people killed.

At this point, blaming and excusing is not acceptable behavior. It’s treating these deaths as if they are political ads. What our country needs is a real investigation and effective action to prevent this from happening again. No more terror strikes on US soil.

Loxodonta on November 11, 2009 at 10:01 AM

It certainly blows the idiotic libtard theories about p.t.s.d. and extending a hand to our enemies right out of the water.

Buy Danish on November 11, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Don’t get me started on that topic. It makes me absolutely NUTS! LOL*

AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 10:01 AM

A person familiar with the matter said a Pentagon worker on a terrorism task force overseen by the Federal Bureau of Investigation was told about the intercepted emails several months ago. But members of terror task forces aren’t allowed to share such information with their agencies, unless they get permission from the FBI, which leads the task forces.

The Gorelick Wall lives on, 8 years later. Tear Down This Wall !

Steve Z on November 11, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Who is in charge of the FBI???

Isn’t that an Obama Appointment?

PappaMac on November 11, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Sorry, my proofreader is on break.

Loxodonta on November 11, 2009 at 10:02 AM

There was a good expose on recording all calls overseas by government officials, capturing private phone calls. In fact, it was a huge story. The upshot was that a lot of personal privacy was, indeed, invaded.

AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 9:59 AM

You go girl! I’m with ya! All those government officials who were prosecuted as a result of this should have their sentences overturned..like Sen. uh…..ummm….and…all those folks at uh….umm….

Well, we know they exist, don’t we (wink wink)?

BobMbx on November 11, 2009 at 10:03 AM

BobMbx on November 11, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Could you link the story about that? That’s all I wear and I have never set off any airport security.

Cindy Munford on November 11, 2009 at 10:03 AM

I suppose because the FBI found nothing particularly alarming in the e-mails. From what I read, the discussion was pretty benign.
AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Riiight. He was just getting “spiritual advice”. Look, there is no such thing as a benign radical Iman who has had contacts with Al Qaeda. And his website had all sorts of “benign” stuff about our armies being in Iraq and Afghanistan, which were talking points used by Hasan.

It’s like saying that contact with Bin Laden can be “benign”. Even if it were possible to argue that the intentions were benign to begin with, by the time he’s through manipulating his followers, it’s a full blown cancer.

Buy Danish on November 11, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Great!!!!Just great f#$king news on Veterans day to hear that our intelligence agencies like the FBI would have so much ignorance and disregard for the safety of our men and women in uniform like this. This is just absolutely disgusting,inexcusable and some heads should roll for this. Next will be hearing that our Soldiers lack the supplies and reinforcements to accomplish the mission Obama has sent them out to do…..hey wait…..our Soldiers are being hung out to dry there as well. The democratic leadership is nothing but a bunch of narcissistic,arrogant,ignorant,bunch of inept a$$holes that the American people should condemn and eliminate from any position of leadership as soon as possible.…by the way…here is an example of what the FBI did decide to follow up on:(via instapundit)http://reason.com/blog/2009/11/10/mississippi-cardiologist-wont/printWHAT THE FBI WAS DOING INSTEAD OF STOPPING NIDAL HASSAN:

A couple of months ago I put up a post about federal prosecutors’ pursuit of Dr. Roger Weiner, an outspoken Mississippi cardiologist who was charged with Mann Act violations for using a Memphis-based website while in Mississippi to meet and date adult women. FBI agents posting as prostitutes repeatedly tried to get Weiner to agree to for money for sex. Each time, he explcitly turned them down, at one point writing to one in a chat room, “I’m not interested in a hooker.” They arrested him and charged him anyway.


Last week, U.S. District Judge Neal Biggers Jr. dismissed all charges against Weiner, ruling that the federal courts didn’t have jurisdiction in the case. Biggers’ opinion strongly suggested the case against Weiner was politically motivated, and came down hard on federal prosecutors.

In a better world, they’d be more worried about blowback from stuff like this than from going ofter an obvious jihadi . . . . Thanks for the \”Smart Power\” morons…

Baxter Greene on November 11, 2009 at 10:03 AM

This is inexcusable. Anyone who had any knowledge of Hasan’s radical Islamic beliefs and did nothing about it should be fired immediately. That includes anyone in the FBI, at the Pentagon and at Ft. Hood. What is the point of having a counter-terrorism task force if no one is held accountable when lives are lost like this? This massacre was pointless and could have been prevented had those responsible for “keeping us safe” done their jobs.

Redneck Woman on November 11, 2009 at 10:05 AM

OT but here comes HarryCare—groan!!

deidre on November 11, 2009 at 9:38 AM

HarryCare or hara kiri?

Steve Z on November 11, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Do we need to run ads telling the Muslims we are politically correct? That will stop them in their tracks.

seven on November 11, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Bishop on November 11, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Iowahawk is a treasure.

Cindy Munford on November 11, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Does strip-searching 80 year old ladies at airports because they’re wearing a legally purchased under-wire bra count as willy-nilly?

I think it does.

BobMbx on November 11, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Hey, grandma may have been going to one of those radical tea parties!!! Alert the Napoleon!

MeatHeadinCA on November 11, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Baxter Greene on November 11, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Unreal.

Buy Danish on November 11, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Unconnected dots.

Where’s Glenn Beck when you need him?

Dr Evil on November 11, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Ms. Gorelick, tear down this wall!

munseym on November 11, 2009 at 10:08 AM

BobMbx on November 11, 2009 at 10:03 AM

This is a source you won’t like, but the story is quick and clear.

http://www.eff.org/issues/nsa-spying

AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 10:09 AM

That’s all I wear and I have never set off any airport security.

Cindy Munford on November 11, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Pictures Cindy! We gotta have pictures! :)

Rovin on November 11, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Look, there is no such thing as a benign radical Iman who has had contacts with Al Qaeda.

Obviously, in this case, you are absolutely right. He was feeding his obsession and proved deadly.

AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 10:10 AM

The coup of all coups. They knew the only way to over take the great satan was by deceit. Stealth.

katy on November 11, 2009 at 10:01 AM

America’s enemies have long figured out that the way to destroy her is from within, using our own laws against us … and controlling the behavior of the population with political correctness and multiculturalism.

darwin on November 11, 2009 at 10:11 AM

The Army had sufficient info, without the intercepts, to at least do its own investigation. Remember the lecture he gave, the constant arguments with his patients about Islam, etc? It certainly has the appearance of a diliberate blind eye by the brass. The intercept info would have been good to have, but the signs were already there.

a capella on November 11, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Baxter Greene on November 11, 2009 at 10:03 AM

I would love to hear what this doctor’s political affiliations are to justify this treatment and who is behind it.

Cindy Munford on November 11, 2009 at 10:11 AM

That’s all I wear and I have never set off any airport security.
Cindy Munford on November 11, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Ditto for Michael Moore.

Bishop on November 11, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Rovin on November 11, 2009 at 10:10 AM

You are so sweet.

Cindy Munford on November 11, 2009 at 10:12 AM

YOU WATCH!… Half-ass-an will use the patented Pete Townshend “research” defense…
when charged with child Internet porning- the Who leader basically said … “WHO me?” and claimed he was researching for a song or something…
Half-Hasan will say he was researching to better understand and therefore “help” Muslin brethren..
it stinks.

max1 on November 11, 2009 at 10:12 AM

The Army had sufficient info, without the intercepts, to at least do its own investigation. Remember the lecture he gave, the constant arguments with his patients about Islam, etc? It certainly has the appearance of a diliberate blind eye by the brass. The intercept info would have been good to have, but the signs were already there.

a capella on November 11, 2009 at 10:11 AM

That’s how I see it. He was being counselled. What did they think? “It’s just a stage he’s going through. He’ll get over it.” ???????

That’s stupid thinking.

AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 10:12 AM

No matter how you rationalize this one point is clear: We have been attacked by a terrorist inside our Nation on Obama’s watch. Plain and simple.

Key West Reader on November 11, 2009 at 9:42 AM

This will never be the terminology used. To acknowledge that this was terrorism, that this was more than a crime is to acknowledge that we are now not safe. Not on Obama’s watch.

publiuspen on November 11, 2009 at 10:13 AM

The media is going to do everything they can to attribute this attack on military incompetence.

Cindy Munford on November 11, 2009 at 9:53 AM

That sounds like a familiar strategy. I think i;ve encountered it before, somewhere.

Loxodonta on November 11, 2009 at 10:13 AM

This wiki page on Al Awlaki is an interesting read.

Buy Danish on November 11, 2009 at 10:14 AM

If Hasan were found to be gay we know he would have been thrown out of the military. But communicating with an radical umam in Yemen? Nothing to worry about there.

scalleywag on November 11, 2009 at 10:14 AM

The Jihadi-oil lobby in America has decades of influence and it has long arms into the system, and it has powerful political allies. It knows when Americans are messing up their own system, and it knows very well how to push them over the cliff, into the abyss of economic calamity.

First, they put their President in our Oval Office. Look at the timing of the fall 2008 economic crisis. It has clearly implicated the Democrats’ complicity. The drilling ban that forces larger and larger dependency on foreign oil. The crazy Fannie/Freddy home finance fiasco. Those CEOs, who unanimously contribute to Democratic candidates, who took their golden parachutes like rats leaving a sinking ship. The Democrats are traitors.

The housing fiasco was a case of over leveraging in a massive way setting up the conditions for a rapid crash when it was triggered by high oil prices.

Does anyone not see the threat with the mysterious coincidence in timing between this crash and the coming elections? The coincidence that the front running candidate is named Barack Hussein Obama? The mysterious huge amounts of unreported campaign contributions to him?

They have made a deal with the devil for power. They are selling our country down the river. It is both parties, but definitely the party in power now. They have infiltrated our military and are demoralizing our troops from their CINC all the way down. It’s disgusting and treasonous, and starting in 2010, every one of these criminals must be voted out. In 2012, Obama has got to go.

alliebobbitt on November 11, 2009 at 10:14 AM

PELOSI factor here??

CIA lies,(doesn’t play the game according to nancy’s rules) FBI is more politically correct and suits this admin. better. Just my thought.

concernedsenior on November 11, 2009 at 10:14 AM

imam rather

scalleywag on November 11, 2009 at 10:14 AM

This will never be the terminology used. To acknowledge that this was terrorism, that this was more than a crime is to acknowledge that we are now not safe. Not on Obama’s watch.

publiuspen on November 11, 2009 at 10:13 AM

It doesn’t matter. It is what it is. People aren’t dumb. It will be on Obama’s watch because it happened on Obama’s watch.

The systemic problems in the military, however, started before then. That should be addressed.

AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 10:15 AM

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