Pentagon: No one told us Hasan was e-mailing the enemy

posted at 9:30 am on November 11, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

In the wake of the 9/11 attacks, we discovered that a failure to “connect the dots” left America unable to defend itself against 19 lunatics armed with boxcutters.  The Fort Hood massacre had far fewer casualties, but all of them could have been avoided had the FBI informed the Pentagon that one of its high-ranking officers had a new al-Qaeda pen pal in Yemen.  The Wall Street Journal reports that the Pentagon never heard from the FBI or other intelligence services that Major Nidal Hasan had begun corresponding with a radical Islamist imam in the hotbed of al-Qaeda terrorism:

The Pentagon said it was never notified by U.S. intelligence agencies that they had intercepted emails between the alleged Fort Hood shooter and an extremist imam until after last week’s bloody assaults, raising new questions about whether the government could have helped prevent the attack.

A top defense official said federal investigators didn’t tell the Pentagon they were looking into months of contacts between Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan and Anwar al-Awlaki. The imam knew three of the Sept. 11 hijackers and hailed Maj. Hasan as a “hero” after the shooting last week at Fort Hood that left 13 people dead. …

A person familiar with the matter said a Pentagon worker on a terrorism task force overseen by the Federal Bureau of Investigation was told about the intercepted emails several months ago. But members of terror task forces aren’t allowed to share such information with their agencies, unless they get permission from the FBI, which leads the task forces.

In this case, the Pentagon worker, an employee from the Defense Criminal Investigative Service, helped make the assessment that Maj. Hasan wasn’t a threat, and the FBI’s “procedures for sharing the information were never used,” said the person familiar with the matter.

This is absurd.  Anwar Aulaqi gets a number of mentions in the 9/11 Commission report for his contacts with at least two of the 9/11 hijackers.  Anyone communicating with Aulaqi after the attacks, especially after Aulaqi relocated to Yemen and established his Islamist jihadist website and recruitment efforts, should have been immediately reported to the Army’s chain of command, especially a high-ranking officer.

From the 9/11 Commission report, page 221:

Another potentially significant San Diego contact for Hazmi and Mihdhar was Anwar Aulaqi, an imam at the Rabat mosque. Born in New Mexico and thus a U.S. citizen, Aulaqi grew up in Yemen and studied in the United States on a Yemeni government scholarship. We do not know how or when Hazmi and Mihdhar first met Aulaqi. The operatives may even have met or at least talked to him the same day they first moved to San Diego. Hazmi and Mihdhar reportedly respected Aulaqi as a religious figure and developed a close relationship with him.33

When interviewed after 9/11, Aulaqi said he did not recognize Hazmi’s name but did identify his picture. Although Aulaqi admitted meeting with Hazmi several times, he claimed not to remember any specifics of what they discussed. He described Hazmi as a soft-spoken Saudi student who used to appear at the mosque with a companion but who did not have a large circle of friends.34

Aulaqi left San Diego in mid-2000, and by early 2001 had relocated to Virginia. As we will discuss later, Hazmi eventually showed up at Aulaqi’s mosque in Virginia, an appearance that may not have been coincidental. We have been unable to learn enough about Aulaqi’s relationship with Hazmi and Mihdhar to reach a conclusion.35

In sum, although the evidence is thin as to specific motivations, our overall impression is that soon after arriving in California, Hazmi and Mihdhar sought out and found a group of young and ideologically like-minded Muslims with roots in Yemen and Saudi Arabia, individuals mainly associated with Mohdar Abdullah and the Rabat mosque. The al Qaeda operatives lived openly in San Diego under their true names, listing Hazmi in the telephone directory. They managed to avoid attracting much attention.

And more from page 230:

At the Dar al Hijra mosque, Hazmi and Hanjour met a Jordanian named Eyad al Rababah. Rababah says he had gone to the mosque to speak to the imam, Aulaqi, about finding work. At the conclusion of services, which normally had 400 to 500 attendees, Rababah says he happened to meet Hazmi and Hanjour. They were looking for an apartment; Rababah referred them to a friend who had one to rent. Hazmi and Hanjour moved into the apartment, which was in Alexandria.75

Some FBI investigators doubt Rababah’s story. Some agents suspect that Aulaqi may have tasked Rababah to help Hazmi and Hanjour. We share that suspicion, given the remarkable coincidence of Aulaqi’s prior relationship with Hazmi. As noted above, the Commission was unable to locate and interview Aulaqi. Rababah has been deported to Jordan, having been convicted after 9/11 in a fraudulent driver’s license scheme.76

The Commission was unable to locate and interview Aulaqi, but Hasan found him without too much trouble.  The Commission also makes it clear that they themselves suspected Aulaqi of an operational role in 9/11, and that counterterrorism agents shared that suspicion.  This was no run-of-the-mill radical imam, but a man suspected of helping to murder almost 3,000 people in the worst terrorist attack in history.

And eight years later, no one thought it was suspicious or worthy of further investigation that a high-ranking officer in the Army was communicating with a man suspected of being one of the architects of 9/11?

There’s a failure to connect dots, and then there’s willful blindness.  This appears to be the latter.  Something is very, very wrong with our present counterterrorism effort if contacts between a military officer and a known radical imam in Yemen gets shrugged off like this, especially with a figure likely part of the 9/11 attacks.


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How many soldiers did that kill for pure political posturing, that lowlife piece of shit.

None. Prove it killed a single one, or STFU.

Grow Fins on November 11, 2009 at 12:47 PM

Ok, can’t hold my breath anymore.

Ann as usual is a useless gasbag.

AsianGirlInTights on November 11, 2009 at 12:49 PM

Rovin wants pictures.

Cindy Munford on November 11, 2009 at 10:16 AM

I’ll second that. How long you going to keep us waiting, my lovely?

Have a great day, Cindy.

Subsunk

Subsunk on November 11, 2009 at 12:54 PM

None. Prove it killed a single one, or STFU.
Grow Fins on November 11, 2009 at 12:47 PM

Foiled again, Finster. Nick Berg.

Oh, and just just a reminder – people were killed by ardent Jihadists over the flipping Danish cartoons, so any politician who worries about “inflaming the passions of Muslims” is playing a losing game.

Buy Danish on November 11, 2009 at 1:02 PM

My bad, Nick Berg wasn’t a soldier. No matter – the point is that it was used by the enemy to kill and terrorize those who dared defy Allah’s army of beheaders.

Buy Danish on November 11, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Rovin wants pictures.

Cindy Munford on November 11, 2009 at 10:16 AM

I’ll second that. How long you going to keep us waiting, my lovely?

Subsunk on November 11, 2009 at 12:54 PM

It’s OK Cindy. Don’t worry. We won’t tell your husband. Nobody will know.

Loxodonta on November 11, 2009 at 1:15 PM

AsianGirlInTights on November 11, 2009 at 12:49 PM

We don’t hardly ever hear from you. wassaaaaap!? I agree with you.

ThackerAgency on November 11, 2009 at 1:17 PM

Loxodonta on November 11, 2009 at 1:15 PM

You’re a naughty old man, aren’t you? :D

AsianGirlInTights on November 11, 2009 at 1:21 PM

I never doubt George Bushs efforts and sincerity when dealing with these scum

Since the left was determined to hobble all of his efforts I there is no doubt that the blood on their hands is ours , not the enemies

Just consider dead ted kennedy when the abu ghraid abuses came to light ( not a big deal in my book )

he made damn sure to inflame the situation to the max ( abu ghraid is reopened under US management )

How many soldiers did that kill for pure political posturing, that lowlife piece of shit.

We know what side the left is on and the sooner we realise it, the sooner we can vote them out of office.

Sonosam on November 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM

None. Prove it killed a single one, or STFU.

Grow Fins on November 11, 2009 at 12:47 PM

Now, now, GrowFins. I’m pretty sure we are safe in making the claim that Mr. Kennedy, God rest his black soul, did his level best to highlight the abuses of the prosecuted and convicted and imprisoned soldiers who mistreated Iraqi prisoners, get those photos on TV for the entire world to see, and directly contributed to the uprising in Iraq from Moqtada al Sadr and the Sunni insurgent forces which ended up killing, wounding and maiming dozens of US soldiers in 2004. And he and the Dhimmicrats in Congress did so for no reason other than to make political points with the electorate and get John Kerry elected President.

Well the strategy worked, four years later. George W Bush is gone (high fives all around the leftysphere) and Barack Obama is President of these United States. How’s that working out for you and the soldiers at Ft Hood?

Subsunk

Subsunk on November 11, 2009 at 1:24 PM

How many other time bombs are ticking away and our government is totally unaware that Jihadis exist. They renamed everything so no one should die right?

By the way wasn’t Homeland Security supposed to make sure these agencies all talked to each other? Homeland Security seems to have become a protect illegal aliens from American citizens agency.

I think Homeland security should go away. They don’t do anything valuable anymore.

petunia on November 11, 2009 at 1:31 PM

IF ONLY some one can link this army major to mid summer TEA parties, Napolitano would have jumped on him like a flash.

Sir Napsalot on November 11, 2009 at 1:40 PM

If you go back to the point I was making, it wasn’t over whether it was legal or illegal. It was that the current method of collection gathers TOO much information, making it harder to discern what truly is or is not relevant.

AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 10:31 AM

I cannot believe that you and yours were so up in arms over Bush’s careful snooping… trying to identify people who might be a threat to people’s lives.

Yet Obama gets a complete pass when they collect information on ME for political purposes only!

Bush was interested in fighting terror. Period.

Obama is trying to silence opposition and intimate ME! And you if you ever utter a word of protest!!!!

Remember what happened to Palin and Joe the Plumber… not to mention Fox News commentators!

One President tried to protect us and our liberty.

The other is trying to control everything that goes in our heads and bodies! Renames things to fool us… Names stuff opposite of what it is… Totalitarianism!

For pete’s sake, WAKE the h**l UP!

petunia on November 11, 2009 at 1:42 PM

I think Homeland security should go away. They don’t do anything valuable anymore.

petunia on November 11, 2009 at 1:31 PM

I believe they make cookies and hold bake sales.

Loxodonta on November 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM

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I worked at White Sands Missile Range as a G.I from 1964–1966–and then as a civilian contractor employee until my retirement in 2007. The above excuses about the Military Intelligence on a post being unable to intercept and monitor communications is a REAL LOAD OF C**P.
***
It was always made clear to us that ALL COMMUNICATIONS WERE SUBJECT TO MONITORING AND RECORDING. And we were told “up front” about this every year during security briefings–never say or write anything that could compromise security on non-secure phones or computers.
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Post intelligence on Ft. Hood or at Walter Reed Hospital had every legal and security right to monitor the good Major’s e-mails, phone / cell phone use, and probably could open his “snail mail”. These are a few of the rights you give up in the military and when you work on a military installation.
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I call BULLS**T on these “fairy stories” about being unable to monitor what was going on. Politically “correct” actions brought us this disaster–and our soldiers and civilians paid in blood and with their lives.
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John Bibb
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rocketman on November 11, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Subsunk on November 11, 2009 at 12:54 PM

Loxodonta on November 11, 2009 at 1:15 PM

I was teasing about pictures of Michael Moore. What makes anyone think mine or his could be told apart? You guys are so funny and sweet.

Cindy Munford on November 11, 2009 at 1:46 PM

IF ONLY some one can link this army major to mid summer TEA parties, Napolitano would have jumped on him like a flash.

Sir Napsalot on November 11, 2009 at 1:40 PM

You are directed to hereby report to the nearest Homeland Security bake sale for questioning.

— Power Nap

Loxodonta on November 11, 2009 at 1:49 PM

You know who else was born in the US but grew up overseas among American-hating Muslims? Anybody care to hazard a guess? Here’s a hint, it is somebody who denies that Hasan was a terrorist.

highhopes on November 11, 2009 at 1:53 PM

I think Homeland security should go away. They don’t do anything valuable anymore.

petunia on November 11, 2009 at 1:31 PM

DHS is a worthless organization. It has no power. It doesn’t have any control over the budgets of component agencies. The Department could be abolished without any harm other than throwing the partisan whore who runs it out on the streets but that should happen anyway.

highhopes on November 11, 2009 at 1:55 PM

I was teasing about pictures of Michael Moore.

Cindy Munford on November 11, 2009 at 1:46 PM

You just made me feel real sick to my tummy! Mean!

Loxodonta on November 11, 2009 at 1:55 PM

You know what? Discussions of failures to connect dots, serious intelligence failures, are worthy and relevant in this case, but intelligence failure wouldn’t have mattered if the military had come down on him as they should have for refusing to be photographed in a group containing female colleagues.

It’s a bit of a bugbear for me at this point. That alone was enough, and should have been, enough to get him an order to stand in a photograph or get out of the army with a dishonorable discharge or brig time if he refused the order.

SarahW on November 11, 2009 at 2:17 PM

What would the investigation have found? That Hasan was a Muslim? That he was going to follow a central tenet of Islam which is to kill the infidels?

We’re always going on about “connecting the dots” after these attacks. The dots are written in the Koran: “Kill the infidels.”

July 10 on November 11, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Eric Holder killed the Black Panther voter intimidation case. Anyone want to bet he told them to stand down on this one too?

drjohn on November 11, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Bingo!

onlineanalyst on November 11, 2009 at 2:36 PM

It’s a bit of a bugbear for me at this point. That alone was enough, and should have been, enough to get him an order to stand in a photograph or get out of the army with a dishonorable discharge or brig time if he refused the order.

SarahW on November 11, 2009 at 2:17 PM

Brig time for refusing to have a picture taken with women? Seriously? If he viewed it against his faith, it is well within religious accomodation to not have his picture taken with female co-workers.

The fact of the matter is that there were ample “dots” to raise concern about this guy without having to go into ordering people to do things against their religious values.

highhopes on November 11, 2009 at 2:37 PM

July 10 on November 11, 2009 at 2:20 PM

By that logic, all Muslims should be considered a threat to national security. You aren’t necessarily wrong, just curious how you would go about dealing with America’s Muslim problem.

highhopes on November 11, 2009 at 2:39 PM

It’s so awesome when the media allows people who are under surveillance to be made aware they’re under surveillance.

Dave Rywall on November 11, 2009 at 2:43 PM

A person familiar with the matter said a Pentagon worker on a terrorism task force overseen by the Federal Bureau of Investigation was told about the intercepted emails several months ago. But members of terror task forces aren’t allowed to share such information with their agencies, unless they get permission from the FBI, which leads the task forces.

That’s a huge source of the problem right there. The FBI should never be in charge of terrorism investigations. They have a law enforcement mentality of demanding proof beyond a reasonable doubt that is just not appropriate for the task. If an Army major is contacting Al Quaeda, then his superiors absolutely should have been notified, regardless of whether it was considered a crime.

They were acting like they were gathering evidence for a courtroom, instead.

tom on November 11, 2009 at 3:08 PM

I imagine the good Major was a shiny stone in the crown of diversity so necessary to the nation and the army. Imagine, a psych doc who can explain that Muslim mumbo jumbo to the brass when he wasn’t healing the souls of Muslim killers. Can’t tamper with gold like that.

Besides, the left and folks like CAIR would have torn the army to shreds for a preemptive move. That is why nothing was done, nor could be done, and for that matter nothing will be done about this. Like the General said, an army without Islam and Muslims is nothing. Losing the Muslims is worse than losing plain vanilla non Muslim Americans. Who would have thought that diversity only can exist Islam. No one else counts, red, yellow, black, white, or brown do not count if the Muslims are not there. Every creed, religion, ethnicity, gender and sexual bend can be present and harmonious, but means nothing if Muslims are not there. That makes them as special as any entity I can think of.

BL@KBIRD on November 11, 2009 at 3:25 PM

only can exist with Islam

BL@KBIRD on November 11, 2009 at 3:28 PM

Heads should roll over this. I was listening to the Bill Bennet show this morning on my way to work and Duncan Hunter’s son and John McCain were on there. They were both very upset about the fact that this man was not stopped. When asked about General Casey’s remarks concerning the importance of diversity in the military, Hunter responded by saying there is no diversity in the military…that is why they shave your head and everyone wears the same uniform.

Terrye on November 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM

By that logic, all Muslims should be considered a threat to national security. You aren’t necessarily wrong, just curious how you would go about dealing with America’s Muslim problem.

highhopes on November 11, 2009 at 2:39 PM

Jonah Goldberg wrote about this issue yesterday.

Islam and Muslims are different. Islam clearly calls for the kiling of infidels. Very few Muslims are fulfilling their religious obligations.

We cannot declare war on Islam itself. If we do, Muslims will have only two choices. Join the infidels or kill the infidels. Right now, they have a third way, which is basically to ignore their holy obligation to kill.

July 10 on November 11, 2009 at 3:33 PM

And the P.C. poison responsible for this slaughter has been promoted most vociferously by “healer” Barry.

profitsbeard on November 11, 2009 at 10:56 AM

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Johan Klaus on November 11, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Something is very, very wrong with our present counterterrorism effort if contacts between a military officer and a known radical imam in Yemen gets shrugged off like this, especially with a figure likely part of the 9/11 attacks.

It all started with the Church Committee.

BDU-33 on November 11, 2009 at 4:17 PM

The assessment concluded Hasan did not merit further investigation — in large part because his communications with the imam were centered on a research paper about the effects of combat in Iraq and Afghanistan and the investigator determined that Hasan was in fact working on such a paper, the officials said.

I doubt the FBI could have taken it any further, after having been given the all-clear from the DCIS. The question remains, though, why even supposedly “innocuous” emails were allowed between a known terrorist and a Muslim Army officer.

Nichevo on November 11, 2009 at 11:15

Then we take the question to the next level. What on earth authority does an inflammatory imam living in another country have to offer in this area of “research”?

onlineanalyst on November 11, 2009 at 5:17 PM

No matter how you rationalize this one point is clear: We have been attacked by a terrorist inside our Nation on Obama’s watch. Plain and simple.

Key West Reader on November 11, 2009 at 9:42 AM

And THAT, my friends, is what NO ONE in Barry’s administration wants to acknowledge. He campaigned on the fact that “the war on terror” was exacerbating the problems the US was dealing with in the world, and that he was going to change the tone. He hoped his apology tour would lead to “forgiveness”. So the LAST thing he wants on his record/legacy is an actual terrorist attack having occurred on US soil on HIS watch. It will show that his policies are a failure. (stating the obvious) He will do everything in his power to ensure this gets classified as something other than a “terrorist attack”

Fed45 on November 11, 2009 at 5:33 PM

slam and Muslims are different. Islam clearly calls for the kiling of infidels. Very few Muslims are fulfilling their religious obligations.

We cannot declare war on Islam itself. If we do, Muslims will have only two choices. Join the infidels or kill the infidels. Right now, they have a third way, which is basically to ignore their holy obligation to kill.

July 10 on November 11, 2009 at 3:33 PM

Winner!!! True Islam teaches that you are either all in, or you are an infidel. No room for “cafeteria Muslims” in Islam. If you are a true Muslim you follow ALL the teachings of the Koran. Just like if you are true Christian you follow ALL the teachings of the New Testament.

Fed45 on November 11, 2009 at 5:36 PM

By that logic, all Muslims should be considered a threat to national security. You aren’t necessarily wrong, just curious how you would go about dealing with America’s Muslim problem.

highhopes on November 11, 2009 at 2:39 PM

How does the FBI deal with members of the Aryan Nation?

Fed45 on November 11, 2009 at 5:38 PM

You know who else was born in the US but grew up overseas among American-hating Muslims? Anybody care to hazard a guess? Here’s a hint, it is somebody who denies that Hasan was a terrorist.

highhopes on November 11, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Are you referring perchance to the person our morning radio talk-show host calls our “undocumented president”?

onlineanalyst on November 11, 2009 at 5:44 PM

I have the opposite reaction. I think they are spying willy-nilly and without good reason in many cases. However, the idiots don’t really know what to do with the information.
AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 9:48 AM

You know this….how? Please provide links that show what information they a gathering and thus what leads you to draw this conclusion. Seems somebody watches too many Oliver Stone movies.

Fed45 on November 11, 2009 at 5:47 PM

I think people are afraid to call this incident by its name, because the implications are too disturbing. Hasan’s clear intention was to harm America, and it probably went back to when he joined the military in the first place. I suspect he joined with the intention of infilitrating the military and being the enemy within.
Why couldn’t the military have people sign a sworn statement accompanying their oath that their oath takes precedence to any other allegience. If they won’t sign it they don’t get in.

txmomof6 on November 11, 2009 at 5:49 PM

Why couldn’t the military have people sign a sworn statement accompanying their oath that their oath takes precedence to any other allegience. If they won’t sign it they don’t get in.

txmomof6 on November 11, 2009 at 5:49 PM

Islam condones lying to the infidels under oath for the purposes of jihad.

July 10 on November 11, 2009 at 5:59 PM

How many soldiers did that kill for pure political posturing, that lowlife piece of shit.
None. Prove it killed a single one, or STFU.
Grow Fins on November 11, 2009 at 12:47 PM

hit a hot spot with a dolt

I bet you still stick your fingers in fire moron

or maybe you just consider the sensibilities of our enemies despite hundreds of cases proving otherwise

add this, that pos Ted Kennedy should be dug up and chucked into an unknown grave instead lying with true heroes that he had no trouble with adding to their peril

if I have an opportunity I will trod on his grave

Sonosam on November 11, 2009 at 7:06 PM

Even if the FBI did drop the ball, he should have been discharged for the comments he made about mujaheddin fighters. At the very least that should have warranted a reprimand. Why did he constantly get promoted if he was making them and failing to do his job?

Cr4sh Dummy on November 11, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Apparently things were known but no one wanted to speak of it because then they would be the target of scrutiny?

If this is the case … let me teach you something.

Le Placard is an 2001 French film where a guy will get canned from a job but before this happens he spreads rumor that he is gay. He does this to shield himself from being fired. It worked. The guys that would fire him stand down because if they did then they think this would show them to be not tolerant, blah blah blah, etc.

What a ruse. What morons we’ve become.

This is why Ann Coulter is brilliant. Her recent column states that Muslims have surpassed gays, blacks, etc from being the pitiful minority.

Thomas Sowell states that this guy Husan may be free one day, and even greeted with a hero’s welcome in some foreign country.

It could happen with the sick culture we’ve become.

father on November 11, 2009 at 9:21 PM

But members of terror task forces aren’t allowed to share such information with their agencies, unless they get permission from the FBI, which leads the task forces.

I thought that’s why we now have the DHS? Wasn’t it supposed to be an information cross referencing clearing house and the bridge that lets anyone relevant know what’s going on?

Shouldn’t this also come up in his yearly security clearance review thing? Or do they only do that with contractors?

- The Cat

MirCat on November 12, 2009 at 7:38 AM

P.S. Is it any wonder that The Mafia still exists in the U.S.?

MirCat on November 12, 2009 at 7:39 AM

***
I worked at White Sands Missile Range as a G.I from 1964–1966–and then as a civilian contractor employee until my retirement in 2007. The above excuses about the Military Intelligence on a post being unable to intercept and monitor communications is a REAL LOAD OF C**P.
***
It was always made clear to us that ALL COMMUNICATIONS WERE SUBJECT TO MONITORING AND RECORDING. And we were told “up front” about this every year during security briefings–never say or write anything that could compromise security on non-secure phones or computers.
***
Post intelligence on Ft. Hood or at Walter Reed Hospital had every legal and security right to monitor the good Major’s e-mails, phone / cell phone use, and probably could open his “snail mail”. These are a few of the rights you give up in the military and when you work on a military installation.
***
I call BULLS**T on these “fairy stories” about being unable to monitor what was going on. Politically “correct” actions brought us this disaster–and our soldiers and civilians paid in blood and with their lives.
***
John Bibb
***

rocketman on November 11, 2009 at 1:45 PM

I second those remarks. The communications units on EVERY government installation can and do monitor any and all communications whether it’s phone, mail, email, chat, sms, cell, blog, courier, or smoke signal.
 
This lie about “how could we have known” is pure unadulterated horseshit.

Blacksmith8 on November 12, 2009 at 8:41 AM

It’s a bit of a bugbear for me at this point. That alone was enough, and should have been, enough to get him an order to stand in a photograph or get out of the army with a dishonorable discharge or brig time if he refused the order.

SarahW on November 11, 2009 at 2:17 PM

I was surprised when I heard this too. Unit photo, group, staff whatever, you will stand there and be photographed, that’s the rules. You can’t get away with “she’s a girl, I can’t be seen with her” that’s BS. His FIRST refusal would have brought a counseling session, any further problem or sniff of a problem and he would have been explaining himself to a star figure. From that meeting he goes to a weather station in the arctic circle or he goes home, end of story. The gen-gen doesn’t do drama queens.

Blacksmith8 on November 12, 2009 at 8:47 AM

By that logic, all Muslims should be considered a threat to national security. You aren’t necessarily wrong, just curious how you would go about dealing with America’s Muslim problem.

highhopes on November 11, 2009 at 2:39 PM

But they are a threat. The verse of the sword IS TREASON.
The problem is treated at the root. If somebody claims to be a mohammedan, then how did they take their oath without mental reservation or purpose of evasion? It’s really simple, if you would swear under false pretenses then you have committed a federal crime and I get to remove you from the situation. There’s your choice Islam, deny your faith or deny your oath to the US. There are consequences.
 
FREEDOM!

Blacksmith8 on November 12, 2009 at 8:58 AM

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