Obamateurism of the Day

posted at 8:48 am on November 11, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Cubs fans know that Chicago has a reputation for making really, really bad trades.  Just mention the name “Ernie Broglio” to any denizen of Wrigley Field and watch them turn four shades of crimson in shame.  (Just to make Windy City fans feel better, former Dodger GM Fred Claire finally got around to admitting the swap of a young Pedro Martinez for Hall of Oblivion infielder Delino DeShields was “a bad trade”.)  This week, Jim Geraghty notes that another Chicago dealmaker offered a trade deal without knowing the players involved.   In joking with Bibi Netanyahu, Barack Obama noted that both Israel and the US have Liebermans that often find themselves at odds with their national leaders:

“So,” Obama announced, according to the source in the room, “we’ve decided that we are going to trade our Lieberman for their Lieberman,” referring to the independent American senator and the hard-line Israeli foreign minister.

Perhaps Obama should have thought that one through before making the offer, as Jim explains:

In an Israeli cabinet meeting, Avigdor Lieberman reportedly proposed giving the Palestinians an ultimatum of bombing banks, gas stations, and commercial centers. On another occasion, he called for the execution of members of the Knesset who met with Hamas. He opposed an amnesty proposal by saying, “It would be better to drown these prisoners in the Dead Sea if possible, since that’s the lowest point in the world.” Then there was the comment that could be interpreted to suggest a nuclear strike on the Gaza Strip. He’s proposed requiring citizens to sign loyalty oaths or forfeit their right to vote.

What do you suppose the odds are that Barack Obama actually intended to endorse Avi Lieberman’s positions on Israeli-Palestinian relations?  Probably a lot higher than the odds that he had no idea who or what Israel’s Lieberman is.

Maybe Chicago dealmakers should refrain from proposing trades altogether.

Addendum: DeShields was a terrible trade for Martinez, but he does good work for baseball.  He and Oil Can Boyd work hard at promoting baseball in American inner cities, and his son is apparently a good high-school prospect in football and baseball.  Dodger fans have nothing against DeShields and wish him well.  Fred Claire, on the other hand …

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Regardless… I’d accept the trade!

mankai on November 11, 2009 at 8:52 AM

What was Bibi’s response?

Disturb the Universe on November 11, 2009 at 8:52 AM

The guy is just effin’ wingin’ it… with the United States of America.

And, he went to law school??… you know, “don’t ask, or say, something you don’t have the answeer to??”

Or, in refererce to another grand baseball trade, “No, No, Barack”

Shivas Irons on November 11, 2009 at 8:55 AM

Cubs fans know that Chicago has a reputation for making really, really bad trades. Just mention the name “Ernie Broglio” to any denizen of Wrigley Field and watch them turn four shades of crimson in shame.

Phillies fans too… as Brock sparked the remarkable comeback of the 64 Cardinals… as the Phillies collapsed over the last two weeks of the season.

mankai on November 11, 2009 at 8:55 AM

Ogabe is just so consarned funny, a laugh every minute with this guy. Ha ha ha. Yep, funny.

Bishop on November 11, 2009 at 8:57 AM

So, President Obama offers to trade one Jew for another?

Classy.

myrenovations on November 11, 2009 at 8:58 AM

Oy Vay! This guy doesn’t think. Maybe we should buy him the “Jump to Conclusions Mat” that was in Office Space.

tanvec on November 11, 2009 at 9:00 AM

Frankly it sounds like a stereotype that should make any liberal cringe. Imagine a white Clinton suggesting to another world leader the swap of Black politicians named Williams, or Latino politicians named Ramirez.

Ha ha lets swap jews, or blackies, or wetbacks. Who does this guy think he is? I only 42, and I am amazed at Obama’s immaturity. Then again I am also surprised by my 70 year old father’s reverse racism.

Agrippa2k on November 11, 2009 at 9:01 AM

He is something else. He has no idea what he is talking about but just keeps talking anyway because he still believes he is the smartest guy in the world.

I would take that trade, we could use some balls in DC. Not that I would want to lose Joe but Avi would give a little balance to the enuchs.

ORconservative on November 11, 2009 at 9:02 AM

I’d rather trade Obama for Bibi….

cs89 on November 11, 2009 at 9:02 AM

Hey oboobi, Why don’t you trade pookie for avi? That’s a win win situation for the U.S

SHARPTOOTH on November 11, 2009 at 9:03 AM

Wow. Who is his top foreign relations adviser? Obama, sometimes if you have no clue what or who you are talking about, just sit down and STFU, um kay? You’re embarrassing our Nation.

Key West Reader on November 11, 2009 at 9:03 AM

The stereotype wouldn’t make any liberal cringe. They are completely immune when it comes to their side.

ORconservative on November 11, 2009 at 9:03 AM

I’d rather trade Obama for Bibi….

Well at least then we’d have a President that loves America.

Agrippa2k on November 11, 2009 at 9:03 AM

cs89 on November 11, 2009 at 9:02 AM

Good one.

publiuspen on November 11, 2009 at 9:04 AM

The stereotype wouldn’t make any liberal cringe. They are completely immune when it comes to their side.

Amen brother.

Agrippa2k on November 11, 2009 at 9:04 AM

So, President Obama offers to trade one Jew for another?

Classy.

Well it’s not like you’re going to get a Black Liberation Theologist out of the Knesset.

Pablo on November 11, 2009 at 9:05 AM

Actually, I was thinking when I read that, how it might be nice to leave the US right now, but Lieberman has some work to do.

ORconservative on November 11, 2009 at 9:05 AM

It’s a cute joke, but yeah, I don’t think the ONE knows anything about their Lieberman. Perhaps America should trade their Barack for the Israeli Ehud Barak?

mjk on November 11, 2009 at 9:06 AM

I am working on a new angle with liberals I know. Separating Obama from the Democrats. Even suggesting that they are his enemy. I’v already got one raging liberal to switch to opposing the Health Care bill, and Pilosi.

Agrippa2k on November 11, 2009 at 9:07 AM

I’d rather trade Obama for Bibi….

cs89 on November 11, 2009 at 9:02 AM

And we’ll throw in Biden and a Speaker-of-the-house to be named later!

rebuzz on November 11, 2009 at 9:07 AM

I’d rather trade Obama for Bibi….

cs89 on November 11, 2009 at 9:02 AM

Hell yeah.

Disturb the Universe on November 11, 2009 at 9:10 AM

*shakes head* What an embarrassment.

becki51758 on November 11, 2009 at 9:12 AM

Yeah, okay, but…

Um…

Who traded Sammy Sosa for Harold Baines?

Typhoon on November 11, 2009 at 9:12 AM

WWUBAR

wee wee’d up beyond all recognition

blatantblue on November 11, 2009 at 9:13 AM

Man, I am so glad we’ve got a president with some intelligence and knowledge of foreign affairs, unlike that retarded cowboy Bush.

Kafir on November 11, 2009 at 9:16 AM

Good thing for Obama you can’t get arrested for impersonating a president.

Cybergeezer on November 11, 2009 at 9:17 AM

The guy is just effin’ wingin’ it… with the United States of America.

And, he went to law school??… you know, “don’t ask, or say, something you don’t have the answer to??”

Or, in refererce to another grand baseball trade, “No, No, Barack”

Shivas Irons on November 11, 2009 at 8:55 AM

.
Umm – We are told he went to law school. Since his records are sealed we don’t really know. It is more likely he just went to the “school for radicals” at Harvard.

Dasher on November 11, 2009 at 9:20 AM

Man, I am so glad we’ve got a president with some intelligence and knowledge of foreign affairs, unlike that retarded cowboy Bush.

Kafir on November 11, 2009 at 9:16 AM

Funny, Funny, FUNNY; You should write jokes for Letterman.

Cybergeezer on November 11, 2009 at 9:20 AM

So, President Obama offers to trade one Jew for another?

Classy.

myrenovations on November 11, 2009 at 8:58 AM

Exactly. There, in a nutshell, is a beautifully conscise summary of our post-racial healer-in-chief in action. If you’ve seen one Jew, you’ve seen them all. One Jew is just as good as another. You tell us, Barry.

Jerk.

jwolf on November 11, 2009 at 9:22 AM

How about we take their Lieberman for our Hussein? Big trade up for us.

james23 on November 11, 2009 at 9:23 AM

Lou Brock for Ernie Broglio.

I don’t think this is a fair analogy. Our Lieberman has a lifetime ACU rating of 15.6… fairly good for a Democrat, but that pretty much makes his a Socialist… I have no idea where their Lieberman sits on economic issues, but he sure as the grave wouldn’t pull punches on middle east policy. Our Lieberman has been solid on ME policy too, so that’s a wash.

mankai on November 11, 2009 at 9:24 AM

Ed, how do Vikings fans feel about that Herchel Walker trade?

Cowboy fans loved, I’m sure.

BuckeyeSam on November 11, 2009 at 9:25 AM

How about we take their Lieberman for our Hussein? Big trade up for us.

james23 on November 11, 2009 at 9:23 AM

I say we just put him on waivers, I’m sure there is a socialist country out there that needs a useless hack.

thomasaur on November 11, 2009 at 9:25 AM

WWUBAR

blatantblue on November 11, 2009 at 9:13 AM

I don’t want to try to visualize that, but it’s a pretty good line.

jwolf on November 11, 2009 at 9:26 AM

What do you suppose the odds are that Barack Obama actually intended to endorse Avi Lieberman’s positions on Israeli-Palestinian relations? Probably a lot higher than the odds that he had no idea who or what Israel’s Lieberman is.

What are the odds that Obama didn’t care at all who Avi Lieberman is or what his positions are on anything, but was only using the name to threaten Senator Lieberman?

The Chicago gangland style of politics.

Loxodonta on November 11, 2009 at 9:26 AM

My goodness the astounding inexperience of Obama. He is just a really bad joker is he actually this stupid? Is there any thought up there?

Regardless this is a major facepalm moment. Maybe even a double facepalm

Shogun144 on November 11, 2009 at 9:28 AM

Obama, sometimes if you have no clue what or who you are talking about, just sit down and STFU, um kay?

Key West Reader on November 11, 2009 at 9:03 AM

Sounds like a great plan… since he *never* knows who or what he’s talking about, we’d never have to hear him “ummmm” and “ahhhh” again!

jana on November 11, 2009 at 9:28 AM

Dang it! I wanted a link to the Picard/Riker double facepalm picture. Okay here we go:

Shogun144 on November 11, 2009 at 9:28 AM

Do we know that he even graduated? Where are the classmates that were there at graduation? Where is anybody that knew Barack Obama back then?
I used to work in an employment agency. There is not a lot of fact checking going on. They take the resmue’ as gospel. Who is this guy?

BetseyRoss on November 11, 2009 at 9:28 AM

I’ll take Lieberman just for the ‘balls factor’. I give you Obama, both Clintons, Reid and Pelosi that’s a package deal since the trade value of a Democrat sucks

ZeeMI on November 11, 2009 at 9:31 AM

Where is anybody that knew Barack Obama back then?

BetseyRoss on November 11, 2009 at 9:28 AM

His name was Barry Soetoro back then….

jana on November 11, 2009 at 9:31 AM

What do you suppose the odds are that Barack Obama actually intended to endorse Avi Lieberman’s positions on Israeli-Palestinian relations?

Wait! Did the Cubs win the world series, and I missed it?

Rovin on November 11, 2009 at 9:33 AM

I’ll take Lieberman just for the ‘balls factor’. I give you Obama, both Clintons, Reid and Pelosi that’s a package deal since the trade value of a Democrat sucks

ZeeMI on November 11, 2009 at 9:31 AM

Unfortunately it wouldn’t work. Unless Israeli GM Bibi is a real sucker, he would insist that we absorb the costs of the expiring contracts of our loser players. I’m afraid they are effectively untradeable.

jwolf on November 11, 2009 at 9:34 AM

Let me get this right. For BO, Muslims have a “hands off” and “don’t jump to conclusions” policy, but Jews and Christians are fair game.

jbh45 on November 11, 2009 at 9:34 AM

So did all the little sycophants in the room laugh at The Won’s clever joke. I think the visit by Mr. Netanyahu was handled disgracefully, yet again. This president apologizes for the U.S. being a super power but promotes himself as the soul power from whom all blessings flow. Lack of knowledge and an over inflated opinion of himself is a recipe for disaster.

Cindy Munford on November 11, 2009 at 9:36 AM

So which Lieberman is Lou Brock? I don’t get it.

Akzed on November 11, 2009 at 9:36 AM

Ed, how do Vikings fans feel about that Herchel Walker trade?
Cowboy fans loved, I’m sure.
BuckeyeSam on November 11, 2009 at 9:25 AM

The worst trade debacle in sports history, especially when you consider that Dallas got Emmit Smith because of it and he tore the shiite out of the Vikings.

Bishop on November 11, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Dumb joke.

Means nothing.

And in baseball, as in life, decision (including every trade) is a gamble.

I remember being furious when my team traded away all it’s best players. Two years later we won the World Series with the new guys.

Johnny 100 Pesos on November 11, 2009 at 9:38 AM

oops, meant: every decision

Johnny 100 Pesos on November 11, 2009 at 9:39 AM

I’d rather trade Obama for Bibi….

cs89 on November 11, 2009 at 9:02 AM

Any day of the week.

TXUS on November 11, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Can you imagine the disgust Bibi must feel when talking to Obama?

jhffmn on November 11, 2009 at 9:41 AM

The undocumented president once claimed “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for”?

No thanks, I’ll wait for the conservative ones in 2010 and 2012 to clean up your filthy mess.

My goodness the astounding inexperience of Obama. He is just a really bad joker is he actually this stupid? Is there any thought up there?

Regardless this is a major facepalm moment. Maybe even a double facepalm

Shogun144 on November 11, 2009 at 9:28 AM

You calling Obama the guy on the “socialist” poster in LA? All democrats must repeat in unison: you racist.

To answer your question on Obama: moron>Obama.

dthorny on November 11, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Surely this was the Obamateurism of the day.

It may be hard to comprehend the twisted logic that led to this tragedy. But this much we do know — no faith justifies these murderous and craven acts; no just and loving God looks upon them with favor. For what he has done, we know that the killer will be met with justice — in this world, and the next.

Oh, but that book that he refers to as the most holy Koran not only justifies these acts but commands the faithful to engage in them.

A Muslim engages in Jihad. Mentally challenged liberals pretend not to understand what motivated him and twist themselves in knots to avoid the truth.

These are inconvenient facts but perhaps there are some moderate Muslims somewhere who will emerge and call for the expungement of those sections of the Koran that call for Jihad.

Basilsbest on November 11, 2009 at 9:43 AM

Barack Obama can get away with joking about trading an independent-minded Senator for a hotheaded Israeli foreign minister, but the media will NEVER forgive George W. Bush for trading away Sammy Sosa…

Speaking of trades, when can We the People of the United States trade Barack Obama and Joe Biden for John McCain and Sarah Palin?

Steve Z on November 11, 2009 at 9:43 AM

So which Lieberman is Lou Brock? I don’t get it.

Akzed on November 11, 2009 at 9:36 AM

The undocumented president Obama is Lou Brock, once, the all time leader in steals.

dthorny on November 11, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Can you imagine the disgust Bibi must feel when talking to Obama?

jhffmn on November 11, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Yes… I feel it every time I listen to him.

jana on November 11, 2009 at 9:45 AM

To answer your question on Obama: moron>Obama.

dthorny on November 11, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Obama is one letter shy of being an anagram for amoeba.

In brain power as in letters, amoeba > Obama.

Steve Z on November 11, 2009 at 9:46 AM

Speaking of trades, when can We the People of the United States trade Barack Obama and Joe Biden for John McCain and Sarah Palin?

Steve Z on November 11, 2009 at 9:43 AM

You can keep McCain, thanks.

jana on November 11, 2009 at 9:46 AM

I’d rather trade Obama for Bibi….
cs89 on November 11, 2009 at 9:02 AM

I’d trade him for Pewee Herman.

Basilsbest on November 11, 2009 at 9:46 AM

Lou Brock rules!

Obama, not so much. Can we trade him to the North Side too?

NebCon on November 11, 2009 at 9:47 AM

For the first time………I agree with Barry. I like the sound of this Avi Liebermann.

When do we get him?

JoeinTX on November 11, 2009 at 9:50 AM

These are inconvenient facts but perhaps there are some moderate Muslims somewhere who will emerge and call for the expungement of those sections of the Koran that call for Jihad.

Basilsbest on November 11, 2009 at 9:43 AM

When the majority of muslims denounce terrorist child bombings, retarded kids wearing explosive vests in Israel, indescriminate bus bombings, American muslim extremists on killing sprees on American military bases. When muslims praise America for freeing 50 million muslims from oppression by dictators, offer thanks to America for helping more muslim countries in the world with food, medicine and mosquito nets to prevent malaria than any country on the planet….

dthorny on November 11, 2009 at 9:53 AM

To answer your question on Obama: moron>Obama.

dthorny on November 11, 2009 at 9:41 AM
Obama is one letter shy of being an anagram for amoeba.

In brain power as in letters, amoeba > Obama.

Steve Z on November 11, 2009 at 9:46 AM

Ahhh, no backbone.

dthorny on November 11, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Umm – We are told he went to law school. Since his records are sealed we don’t really know. It is more likely he just went to the “school for radicals” at Harvard.

Dasher on November 11, 2009 at 9:20 AM

It is interesting that prior to 2008, college grades were a big deal for presidential candidates. Bush and Kerry’s were examined in some detail, and Gore of course flunked out. Odd the press could care less about Obama. I guess there isn’t one honorable man or woman in Harvard administration.

18-1 on November 11, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Basilsbest on November 11, 2009 at 9:43 AM

Mr. Obama has been far closer to Muslims than most of us will ever get. But I’m willing to bet that even he has yet to see an Islamic militant, or, if he has, he has forgotten same.

Oft-times, one imputes to their adversary what they themselves would do.

Hence, Hasan views Americans (“Crusaders”) in the Umma as wishing to do to his beloved Muslims what he wanted to do to us.

On the other side, we’ve had plenty of people on this site call for the extermination of Muslims. They are Hasan’s equivalents.

As for the Koran and its interesting take on violence, there are passages in the Old Testament which send chills up my spine, for, even as the people doing them think they are performing the Will of God, I can’t see how.

unclesmrgol on November 11, 2009 at 10:02 AM

jwolf on November 11, 2009 at 9:34 AM

Damn! No wonder I am so bad at negotiations…I was just giddy at the thought of trading away rubbish, I didn’t even consider contract buyouts.

ZeeMI on November 11, 2009 at 10:08 AM

What all the Hot Airers don’t understand is that all these cock ups by Obama are really, really intelligent cock ups. Nope not your mundane type but soooper smart cock ups.

As my father the used car salesman would tell me, “It’s easy to fool people that think theay are very smart.

jukin on November 11, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Actually the worst trade of all time was by my beloved Cincinnati Reds… They traded Frank Robinson for Milt Pappas in 1966.

Frank Robinson had a triple crown season for the Orioles, and Pappas never did a thing for the Reds.

wildcat84 on November 11, 2009 at 10:14 AM

OK, I’ll ask the obvious. What is an American president doing making jokes about trading a US Senator to any other government?

This naive, mean spirited man is insulting us daily on the world stage.

I wonder how Joe Lieberman feels about The One bandying his name about.

FireBlogger on November 11, 2009 at 10:15 AM

As for the Koran and its interesting take on violence, there are passages in the Old Testament which send chills up my spine, for, even as the people doing them think they are performing the Will of God, I can’t see how.
unclesmrgol on November 11, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Those passages were superseded by the New Testament. There are no Christians today who obey those passages and engage in killing the enemy for the glory of God.

Basilsbest on November 11, 2009 at 10:16 AM

there are passages in the Old Testament which send chills up my spine, for, even as the people doing them think they are performing the Will of God, I can’t see how.

unclesmrgol on November 11, 2009 at 10:02 AM

The difference is that if people were still doing those things TODAY, they would not be encouraged, or exalted… in the Christian and Jewish cases, there is such a thing as societal evolution.

Muslims are still living a literal version of the Koran’s instructions… even if they don’t *personally* want to carry out acts of violence, they (for the most part) don’t condemn the ones who do.

jana on November 11, 2009 at 10:19 AM

On the other side, we’ve had plenty of people on this site call for the extermination of Muslims. They are Hasan’s equivalents.
unclesmrgol on November 11, 2009 at 10:02 AM

I have been reading this blog for about a year and have never read a single comment like that.
I have never heard anyone I know say such a thing.

FireBlogger on November 11, 2009 at 10:22 AM

That is fubo.

Ted Torgerson on November 11, 2009 at 10:23 AM

On the other side, we’ve had plenty of people on this site call for the extermination of Muslims.

Oh… and I’ve *NEVER* said such a thing, heard such a thing or read a comment endorsing such a thing… you’ve seen people calling for the “extermination” of Muslims?

I dare say that’s not just an exaggeration, but an outright lie.

jana on November 11, 2009 at 10:30 AM

It usually takes getting screwed by a crooked hoodlum to make someone leary of trading. I do believe the American people are burnt. That’s why Rahm Emmanuel takes his deals to the backroom of congress and not the American people. The people are smarter than Congress or backroom dealing politicians. When will you left wing idiots figure that one out?

bluegrass on November 11, 2009 at 10:48 AM

Obama isn’t losing weight. His skin is just getting wafer thin.

This is further evidence that our president is Nixonian and thinks in terms of them vs. us. Lieberman’s honest disagreement with him bugs Obama so much that he referenced it in the form of an awkward internaional “joke.”

This could end very badly.

Terrie on November 11, 2009 at 10:49 AM

WWUBAR

wee wee’d up beyond all recognition

blatantblue on November 11, 2009 at 9:13 AM

I likey…

ladyingray on November 11, 2009 at 10:51 AM

“What do you suppose the odds are that Barack Obama actually intended to endorse Avi Lieberman’s positions on Israeli-Palestinian relations?”

If Avi supported Obamacare, do you suppose he would care?

Dusty on November 11, 2009 at 10:59 AM

Speaking of lousy Chicago trades…let’s not forget Phil Esposito for Pit Martin and two other spares.

bhawknine on November 11, 2009 at 11:01 AM

Speaking of trades, when can We the People of the United States trade Barack Obama and Joe Biden for John McCain and Sarah Palin?

Steve Z on November 11, 2009

How about Palin and a heavy-hitting minor leaguer (Rubio?).

SKYFOX on November 11, 2009 at 11:05 AM

” It may be hard to understand the reason for this twisted tragedy.” Just who the hell was the commander n cheif talking to or about? Was this just a lead on to his deadbeat cowardly media cronies?

bluegrass on November 11, 2009 at 11:20 AM

You aint seen trade until he gets to China. He’ll spend some more of the TARP money, you’ll see!

bluegrass on November 11, 2009 at 11:22 AM

Maybe they will go ahead and lock him up in debtors prison for the all the money we owe them. suits me.

bluegrass on November 11, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Bibi/Palin 2012

1luckydogg on November 11, 2009 at 11:29 AM

The Cubbies were redeemed for the Brock/Broglio trade with the Ivan DeJesus/Larry Bowa trade in 1982. As part of the deal, Cubs GM insisted that the Phillies throw in a little known third baseman named Ryne Sandberg. Ryno was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2005.

Mallard T. Drake on November 11, 2009 at 12:05 PM

What do you suppose the odds are that Barack Obama actually intended to endorse Avi Lieberman’s positions on Israeli-Palestinian relations? Probably a lot higher than the odds that he had no idea who or what Israel’s Lieberman is.

Um… you mean lower?

RINO in Name Only on November 11, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Lou Brock for Ernie Broglio AND Bobby Shantz (sp?). (I won’t mention how we traded Steve Carlton for Rick Wise. Well, I didn’t….Gussie Busch did.)

tgharris on November 11, 2009 at 12:24 PM

I am working on a new angle with liberals I know. Separating Obama from the Democrats. Even suggesting that they are his enemy. I’v already got one raging liberal to switch to opposing the Health Care bill, and Pilosi.

Agrippa2k on November 11, 2009 at 9:07 AM

You MUST share you tactics and line of reasoning. I’d love to try it out on some of the wobbly Liberals I know. Thx!

mrpeabody on November 11, 2009 at 12:37 PM

When the majority of muslims denounce terrorist child bombings, retarded kids wearing explosive vests in Israel, indescriminate bus bombings, American muslim extremists on killing sprees on American military bases. When muslims praise America for freeing 50 million muslims from oppression by dictators, offer thanks to America for helping more muslim countries in the world with food, medicine and mosquito nets to prevent malaria than any country on the planet….

dthorny on November 11, 2009 at 9:53 AM

Maybe not worldwide, but in America, polling has shown that the vast majority of Muslims do oppose terrorism, though the minority that support it is a real danger.

As for humanitarian aid to Muslims, I suspect that to the extent that they are aware of it, they are grateful. But a lot of people aren’t aware, because the media hates reporting these kinds of things (especially under Bush. Now that Jesus is President, perhaps this will change – I mean Change (TM)).

As for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, opposing them is wrong-headed, but not really an indication of disloyalty – a lot of people can be irrational when war is concerned, mostly because war is hell.

I’m opposed to shills like CAIR that claim to oppose terror falsely, but there are a lot of Muslims that just want to be left alone so they can pray to Mecca five times a day or whatever, and its not fair to lump them in with terrorist sympathizers. They could be more vocal sometimes, but since terrorists especially love to target Muslims who speak out, I think you can attribute some of that silence to fear, not disloyalty.

RINO in Name Only on November 11, 2009 at 12:49 PM

The DUMB president sure was better at his job.

jukin on November 11, 2009 at 12:50 PM

Addendum: DeShields was a terrible trade for Martinez, but he does good work for baseball.

Wished we could say the same about Obama, and his presidency!

capejasmine on November 11, 2009 at 12:51 PM

for Vikings fans: Mention Herschel Walker

billhedrick on November 11, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Obama probably thought the Israeli Lieberman has the same control goals that his administration does and would fit right in.

petunia on November 11, 2009 at 1:46 PM

On the other side, we’ve had plenty of people on this site call for the extermination of Muslims.
Oh… and I’ve *NEVER* said such a thing, heard such a thing or read a comment endorsing such a thing… you’ve seen people calling for the “extermination” of Muslims?

I dare say that’s not just an exaggeration, but an outright lie.

jana on November 11, 2009 at 10:30 AM

The other night late at night there were some who were calling for interment camps and talking about taking out 1000 or so for execution as an example… Just thought you should know.

It was pretty unseemly. Of course it was just venting over the killings at Fort Hood. But still. I was appalled by it. And I tried to say so.

petunia on November 11, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Ahhh, no backbone.

dthorny on November 11, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Or balls!

Cybergeezer on November 11, 2009 at 2:01 PM

The undocumented president once claimed “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for”?

Kinda sorta like the guy who goes on a journey to find himself, and one day looks in a mirror and there he is!

Imagine that.

DSchoen on November 11, 2009 at 2:46 PM

Agrippa2K
I don’t mean to sound picky but there is no such thing as reverse racism.
A racist is a racist-regardless of what shade they are.

annoyinglittletwerp on November 11, 2009 at 4:16 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on November 11, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Gracias,I rest my case.

inevitable on November 11, 2009 at 4:45 PM