AP to Americans: Stop being “grouchy”
posted at 11:36 am on November 11, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Dan Calabrese notices a scolding tone coming from the Associated Press in reporting its latest polling. It headlines the report by noting that “a grouchy public [is] sticking with Obama,” having seen a 54% job approval rating in its survey — but some bad numbers on the issues. Does the AP report those falling levels of support as a consequence of Barack Obama doing a poor job? No, as emphases from Dan and myself show:
The public grew slightly more dispirited on a range of matters over the past month, including war and the economy, continuing the slippage that has occurred since Obama took office, the latest Associated Press-GfK poll shows.
This comes at a time when he is trying to revive the struggling economy, considering sending more troops to the 8-year-old Afghanistan war, muscling a health care reform overhaul through Congress and hoping to push through other ambitious measures like legislation focused on climate change.
People were gloomier about the direction of the country than in October. They disapproved of Obama’s handling of the economy a bit more than before. And, perhaps most striking for the commander in chief, more people have lost confidence in Obama on Iraq and Afghanistan over the last month. Overall, there’s a malaise about the state of the nation. …
Public attitudes like that are troubling for a president trying to accomplish an ambitious agenda at home while fighting wars abroad, as well as for a Democratic Party heading into a critical election year. It will have to stave off losses that a new president typically experiences in his first midterm elections. A third of the Senate, all of the House and most governors’ offices will be on the ballot.
Come on, you gloomy Guses! Obama’s trying really hard! What’s wrong with you, America?
Dan says that this is just the nature of the AP and reporter Liz Sidoti:
I actually think the AP uses language like this without even realizing it. It’s just second nature to a writer like Liz Sidoti, whose preconceived notion of the world tells her everything Obama is trying to do is heroic and awesome. Her storyline does not concern whether these things are good. She presumes they are good and reports on how much success Obama is having achieving them.
As for 54 percent of the public approving of Obama, that’s not impressive historically for this stage in a presidency, and you will find buried in the story that it’s way down from the 74 percent he enjoyed on Inauguration Day, before he had actually governed anything. … It’s a good thing 54 percent of you – in a poll that surely oversamples Democrats – still proclaim your support for President Obama. It’s your one saving grace.
Since Dan asked the question, let’s find the answer in the survey’s data. Sure enough, the poll sample breaks down thusly: 43% Democrats, 31% Republicans, and, er, six percent independents (19% say they “didn’t know). That twelve-point gap is actually an increase of one point from the previous month’s poll. It doubles the Gallup survey difference from last month on party identification, and the independent-leaners split (10%-8% GOP) is laughable considering today’s Gallup polling on independents.
Even with the skewed sample (and polling adults rather than voters or likely voters), that approval rating doesn’t really hold up well. On the economy, Obama’s approval swung nine points from 50/44 to 46/49 over the last month. On Iraq, Obama swung 14 points from 50/37 to 46/45. The swing on taxes was ten points, from 47/41 to 42/46, although his health-care numbers look steady, if weak at 49/46. On Afghanistan, people have gotten tired of waiting and Obama swung eleven points to the negative, from an already weak 46/41 to underwater at 42/48.
Oh, and the White House had better take notice of this tidbit, too: Obama went underwater on unemployment as well, from 48/43 a month ago to 44/47 now. Obama owns the 10.2% unemployment rate, and even oversampling Democrats can’t hide the fact that people are tired of hearing Obama blame Bush. They’re not grouchy about it, either. They’re starting to get angry.










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Uh, oh. Last time the state of the nation was described as “malaise” a certain Democratic President only lasted one term.
Disturb the Universe on November 11, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Pardon me but socialism tends to make me a tad bitchy.
gophergirl on November 11, 2009 at 11:40 AM
AP and affirmative action.
jukin on November 11, 2009 at 11:40 AM
I HATE Obama, Pelosi, Reid and ALL of the other criminals in DC…their demise cannot happen fast enough for me!!
There, I feel better, I am no longer grouchy…
Ltlgeneral64 on November 11, 2009 at 11:40 AM
I think my last post got poofed.
The attempt to turn my country into a socialist nation tends to get me more than a tad grumpy.
gophergirl on November 11, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Misery index, here we come.
This is what America looks like when run by Democrats.
Mojave Mark on November 11, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Grouchy is not the adjective I would use to describe myself, but since it is unprintable, I’ll leave it at that.
PrincipledPilgrim on November 11, 2009 at 11:42 AM
The one word is a flagged word, so the comment went into moderation. I guess our site got grouchy about you getting bitchy. ;-)
The comment made my day, though …
Ed Morrissey on November 11, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Yeah 54% approval.
And I’m a Chinese aviator.
there it is on November 11, 2009 at 11:43 AM
It is NEVER the One’s fault.
He’s a victim don’t you know, and a minority.
singlemalt_18 on November 11, 2009 at 11:43 AM
I’ll stop being ‘grouchy’ when:
1. the Dems are out of power
2. Obama is out of office
3. liberalism is destroyed as a political ideology
4. trolls no longer post on HA
5. our country returns to its founding principles
Liam on November 11, 2009 at 11:44 AM
In the past, recessions often did follow a predictable pattern. First, Wall St. rallied. Next, jobs opened up.
I think the reality that most people are fully aware of is that jobs may not come back.
AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 11:44 AM
I’ll give up the grouch happily when the moron-in-chief is gone.
Connie on November 11, 2009 at 11:44 AM
Pretty hard for people not to be “grouchy” when they don’t have jobs, Christmas is approaching, and the prospects for finding a job are dim. And for those who do have jobs, the spectre of ever-increasing taxes to finance all the Democrats’ wet dreams is more than enough to inspire “grouchiness.”
AZCoyote on November 11, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Unemployment make us grouchy. So does amazingly massive dept and wasteful government spending.
theCork on November 11, 2009 at 11:45 AM
:) :)
gophergirl on November 11, 2009 at 11:45 AM
It takes a nation of Eeyores to hold him back.
Exurban Jon on November 11, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Damn the teabags! Full speed ahead!
forest on November 11, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Progressive communists trying to “muscle” their agenda down my throat makes me kinda grouchy.
Personally, I think it’s completely understandable. I don’t know why the AP doesn’t see it that way.
darwin on November 11, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Yeah, you have to look at who is saying it.Along with ap is pretty boy clinton telling us we’re upset b/cause they’re winning!:)Go figure.
2010′s a comin’!
ohiobabe on November 11, 2009 at 11:46 AM
What she said.
&$##%#!!#% fascist stenographers!
conservative pilgrim on November 11, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Obama is trying so hard we should all really cut him some slack. It’s not like he knows what he’s doing or anything, he’s basically winging it because he’s so awesome like that. We should all be gratefull that he stepped up in time to save our country from a financial crisis and now wants to give everyone free healthcare.
Mord on November 11, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Democrats = unemployment, corruption, incompetence, power-lusting, weak and castrated foreign policy, government expansion, racism, hate, class envy, class warfare, division, balkanization, galvanization, subsidies for unions and cronies, tax-cheating, health care takeovers, nationalization of industries, socialism, reduced liberty, reduced output, threats against political opponents, higher taxes, more regulation, collectivism, Misery Index
Republicans = tax relief, business growth, less burdensome government, strong foreign policy, lighter regulation, originalism, capitalism, wealth-creation, personal responsibility, charity, individualism, choice, freedom, prosperity
Good Lt on November 11, 2009 at 11:47 AM
He may be underwater, but did you see what he can do with a SEAL team?
//s
ted c on November 11, 2009 at 11:47 AM
I like the way Yahoo news headlines this story: “Majority of Americans approve of Obama.” Must stay on message
brak on November 11, 2009 at 11:48 AM
I have a feeling I will be less “grouchy” as late autumn approaches next year.
jjshaka on November 11, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Doesn’t they mean gauche…
the_nile on November 11, 2009 at 11:49 AM
The 54% still not grouchy don’t even know who the VP is according to Hannity’s and Steven Crowders man on the street interviews. They don’t know enough to get out of the rain what do they have to be grouchy about.
fourdeucer on November 11, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Liam on November 11, 2009 at 11:44 AM
Agreed, but let’s keep the trolls. They’re entertaining. (See Bleeds Blue in the Gallup poll thread.)
NebCon on November 11, 2009 at 11:50 AM
It’s looking like Rush Limbaughs assessment of the media’s view of Donavon McNabb is being revisited. Only this time its the AP & Obama.
But don’t bring attention to it or you will be called a RACIST!!
PappaMac on November 11, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Global Warming/Climate Change/Global Cooling News:
I’m melting…..melting…..
Rovin on November 11, 2009 at 11:52 AM
So, at what point will the Obama fellating media notice the unemployment numbers and attach them to Obama? 12%…14%…ever?
SKYFOX on November 11, 2009 at 11:53 AM
The Associate Pravda strikes again…
d1carter on November 11, 2009 at 11:53 AM
No, no, no the AP has it all wrong. Americans aren’t grouchy…
We’re pissed!
laurakbarr on November 11, 2009 at 11:54 AM
BAH-HUMBUG!
SouthernGent on November 11, 2009 at 11:55 AM
AP . . . stick it in your collective ears, or the orifice of your choice.
rplat on November 11, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Obama:
epicheroic fail!He likes to eat grouse, but not hear it.
profitsbeard on November 11, 2009 at 11:56 AM
AMEN!!!!!
bluelightbrigade on November 11, 2009 at 11:57 AM
I’m not grouchy, I’m mad as hell.
jimmy2shoes on November 11, 2009 at 11:57 AM
I’m sick of them and their ceaseless insults, like simplesimon and all the others. They can’t postulate anything other than slander, going around and around with their tactics that are designed only to annoy people. Why they won’t go to another site where they can all talk about how wonderful they are is beyond me. They’re all a waste of time.
If my dream ever came true, I wouldn’t want a single lib even to exist caged in a zoo. A cup of water and two slices of bread a day to feed them is more than they’re worth.
Liam on November 11, 2009 at 11:57 AM
“She presumes they are good and reports on how much success Obama is having achieving them.” – Dan
This pretty much sums it up for most of those on the left. They know they are right and they cannot fathom why the right disagrees…accept to assign stupidty and racism as the answers.
allstonian on November 11, 2009 at 11:59 AM
fogw on November 11, 2009 at 11:59 AM
“a grouchy public [is] sticking
withit to Obama”FIFTMLOAPF-Checkers
Dusty on November 11, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Ed Morissey: Dumbo clean up on aisle 1.
Possible LGF troll droppings.
profitsbeard on November 11, 2009 at 12:01 PM
I blog around on liberal and conservative sites. Grouchiness is a trait of bloggers, anyway. *haha
It doesn’t matter which side you’re on. The level of tension is intense!
AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 12:01 PM
Like Obama, Gallup is a liar.
Christian Conservative on November 11, 2009 at 12:02 PM
I avoid any AP article written by Sidoti. I wouldn’t be surprised if she wrote her articles while sitting on Barry’s lap.
GarandFan on November 11, 2009 at 12:03 PM
As is AP polls.
Christian Conservative on November 11, 2009 at 12:03 PM
The AP is as clueless, as ever. The American people are beyond “grouchy” and they know it. That the American people have figured out what a fake their ‘adored’ one is, drives the AP even more nuts.
Pretentions don’t usually last, and in this case, such narcissistic arrogance will be punished, even if the AP keeps writing lots of nonsense.
Schadenfreude on November 11, 2009 at 12:03 PM
I hope the Democrats don’t change course. Just keep doing what they are doing and 2010 will be a heck of a shock for them.
Idiots.
taney71 on November 11, 2009 at 12:05 PM
Dear Associated Press
Please be advised that I tend to get well beyond grouchy when some lightweight clown like Obama and his minions try to ram Marxism down my throat. Grouchy is when the President of the United States chooses to insult well over half of the citizens of the country on an almost daily basis because we disagree with his Marxist agenda.
So, dear Associated Press, I am way, way beyond grouchy; pound sand.
John
johnsteele on November 11, 2009 at 12:05 PM
AP went with the “grouchy” line because even they can remember how well the “malaise” strategy worked for Jimmy Carter 30 years ago.
And if the public continues to misbehave in these polls, expect a preemptive deployment of the “Americans throwing a temper tantrum” explanation Peter Jennings rolled out in the wake of the 1994 midterm elections.
jon1979 on November 11, 2009 at 12:05 PM
Terrorism: the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.
That’s the only definition I need, and it fits your man Hasan well enough for me. If you have a problem with that, too bad.
And if he isn’t considered a terrorist by your Party, then there will be much more wrath for them to face at the ballot box next year.
Liam on November 11, 2009 at 12:05 PM
That reminds me of the comments my husband (college prof) gets from students: “But, you don’t understand how hard I TRIED on that paper”. Well, champ, the requirement of the paper are 8-10 pages and you gave him 3. Stop complaining or my hubby will get “grouchy” with you. LOL
He’s always having to remind them that efforts aren’t rewarded, results are. At least I think they still are in most places…
acleaver on November 11, 2009 at 12:06 PM
AP must limit their polling sample to San Fran, NY City or the UN.
Sporty1946 on November 11, 2009 at 12:06 PM
Oops! Wrong thread! I’m having a grouchy argument with another lib.
Liam on November 11, 2009 at 12:06 PM
What!!!! Why should I be upset? Does it have anything to do with the fact that my great-grandchildren will still be paying for someone’s car 60 years from now? Maybe that I will eventually have to purchase government run health care, even if I want to keep my own insurance? It might have something to do with the soaring national debt as Democrats attempt to borrow and spend their way to prosperity? Higher taxes are just down the road. Maybe it’s the failure of the national government to protect our borders, allowing of millions of illegals into the country and then mandating that I support them with the sweat of my labor.
I coould, as many of you could, go on…but why bother. Nobody in Washington is listening anyway. No wonder I’m pissed.
sdd on November 11, 2009 at 12:06 PM
I agree. The failure of media to stay out of the last election has their tails in a crack now, so to speak.
They bargained badly. To get attention/media share, they abandoned any pretense of neutrality.
They squandered credibility for a short-term payoff. AP is no different. They keep trying to push the envelope of pay for quoting stuff.
Now, they are in trouble. They really aren’t as valuable as in the past.
AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 12:07 PM
Reminds me of Peter Jennings when the ‘Pubs took over Congress in ’94 … he said we had a ‘temper tantrum’.
Tony737 on November 11, 2009 at 12:07 PM
Yep. “Grouchy” my ass.
Midas on November 11, 2009 at 12:08 PM
Americans are grouchy by nature. If it isn’t one thing, it’s another. Obama, by sticking his nose into just about everything, has made it possible for everyone to be grouchy about one thing. He truly is a unifier.
Dusty on November 11, 2009 at 12:08 PM
This is how Yahoo reads this morning:
“Most people approve of President Obama”
followed by:
“Obama’s favorite dessert!”
And AP wonders why I’m grouchy?
betsyz on November 11, 2009 at 12:09 PM
You’ve got a good point, there. :) There often is bonding over negativity. *haha
AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 12:09 PM
What, we don’t get to read the comment? Elitists! :P
lorien1973 on November 11, 2009 at 12:10 PM
Gallup gives us a poll that says 20% of the country is liberal, 40% is conservative, and about 40% is independent or moderate.
I realize that those labels don’t correspond to political parties, but I wonder whether Gallup’s polling would should a better pulse of the country if it sampled along those lines rather than the absurd split that it’s currently using. I think we mind Obama upside down in quicksand with only his legs showing…and sinking steadily.
BuckeyeSam on November 11, 2009 at 12:10 PM
Not grouchy. Fired up! And ready to go! (Ha!) Ready to defend our Republic because I am endlessly optimistic, because I understand her worth!
publiuspen on November 11, 2009 at 12:11 PM
Grouchy?
Screw you!
/heh
blatantblue on November 11, 2009 at 12:11 PM
Fe-fe, fi-fi, fo-fo, fum
I smell smoke in the White House auditorium
Obama Brown, Obama Brown
He’s a clown, that Obama Brown
He’s gonna get caught
Just you wait and see
(Why are all those grouchy people always pickin’ on me?)
That’s him on his knees
I know that’s him
Yeah, from 7 come 11
Down in the Saudi King’s gym
Obama Brown, Obama Brown
He’s a clown, that Obama Brown
He’s gonna get caught
Just you wait and see
(Why are all those grouchy people always pickin’ on me?)
Who’s always dithering on the Afghan wall
Who’s always goofing in the hospital hall
Who’s always at the economy throwing spit balls
Guess who (who, me?) yeah, you
Who walks in the auditorium, cool and slow
Who calls the Founding Fathers’ Constitution, Trash-O
Obama Brown, Obama Brown
He’s a clown, that Obama Brown
He’s gonna get caught
Just you wait and see
(Why are all those grouchy people always pickin’ on me?)
MB4 on November 11, 2009 at 12:12 PM
There’s a quote that says liking the same thing can be wonderful, but sharing a dislike can be intoxicating. I forget who wrote that, though.
Liam on November 11, 2009 at 12:14 PM
Recent polling data (as documented on a T-shirt) confirmed recently that 6 out of 7 dwarfs are not Happy.
Tom_OC on November 11, 2009 at 12:15 PM
Yes, and did I mention that was recent? Flippin’ decaf!
Tom_OC on November 11, 2009 at 12:15 PM
Liam, it works for any thread!
donh525 on November 11, 2009 at 12:17 PM
I’m not (of course) as alarmed by the highlighted language as Ed et al. Pretty decent analysis, actually, “the numbers are troubling when have a significant agenda before you and an election coming up.” Someone not so genetically inclined to loath the AP might suggest that the report, far from being sympathetic, sent a message that, if the president was actually screwing up outright, he was for sure running out of time.
Bleeds Blue on November 11, 2009 at 12:17 PM
You can sure see it on-line. They love to bond over snarking. I bet a full 50% of Huffington’s posts are really nothing more than: “Good one!” :)
AnninCA on November 11, 2009 at 12:17 PM
Maybe I should change my name to Oscar.
MarkTheGreat on November 11, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Let the AP write what they dream of imagining…while the numbers keep changing…not to their satisfaction.
The grumps will vote…not soon enough.
Schadenfreude on November 11, 2009 at 12:20 PM
hmmmm: Trying….considering….muscling (ha!)…. Nice try, shankapotamus!
atlgal on November 11, 2009 at 12:20 PM
I’m thinking that Liz is too young to remember Carter’s malaise, or she wouldn’t have used the word in her article. This is the first time I’ve read/heard the word from the media concerning Obamalaise.
Lightswitch on November 11, 2009 at 12:20 PM
In my minds eye, I see Sidoti as that youtube guy who was crying about everyone being mean to Brittany.
MarkTheGreat on November 11, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Obama’s increasing unpopularity gives me hope. Then my hope is crushed because there isn’t a Ronald Reagan waiting in the wings.
gwelf on November 11, 2009 at 12:20 PM
If “grouchy” means “wanting to take a hot poker and ram it up some government hack’s orifice where he’s got his head,” then yeah, I’m a bit grouchy these days.
Aitch748 on November 11, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Actually, I’d say it is pretty clear he is not. With an agenda of more regulations and taxes that are specifically aimed at devastating small business, one could credibly argue keeping the economy in a recession/depression is his intention.
18-1 on November 11, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Obama and a team of seals?
Sea World is calling.
MarkTheGreat on November 11, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Not till their own jobs disappear.
MarkTheGreat on November 11, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Americans to AP: Bugger off!
VoyskaPVO on November 11, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Anther slanted poll by the AP, who would have thunk it? They are worthless. I don’t think their slant on Obama has anything to do with the slant of the survey. It’s intentional!
donh525 on November 11, 2009 at 12:25 PM
I got a kick out of the line, “…genetically inclined to loathe AP…”
Nah–it’s not possible AP could be a biased shill for the Enemy Party! Only conservative talk radio and FNC could be biased! And those faked pictures AP published a few summers back when Israel was fighting in Lebanon were, well…um…oh, yeah! They were fakes but they were accurate.
Now I got it. I think…
Liam on November 11, 2009 at 12:25 PM
I was ‘grouchy’ on the morning of November 5th, 2008. As of today, I’m thoroughly pissed. I knew it wouldn’t be good, but never imagined it to be this bad. I still don’t know who I despise more; Obama, Congress or unrepentant Obama voters.
Devrbd on November 11, 2009 at 12:26 PM
I venture to guess that for many, if not most, of the unemployed it’s beyond anger at this point. It’s despair.
Buy Danish on November 11, 2009 at 12:26 PM
“Muscling” the health-care overhaul through Congress?
More like strong-arming it, taking Medicare benefits away from elderly Americans. Enough to make them grouchy.
And bitter, and clinging to their religion.
Hope might be out there somewhere, but not in Obama.
Steve Z on November 11, 2009 at 12:27 PM
Grumpy? Surely you jest! Let’s run down a list of slightly more accurate terms, at least in regards to myself.
Outraged!
Pissed!
Astounded!
Livid!
Rabid?
Militant!
Angry!
Repulsed!
Indignant!
Mad!
Choleric!
Hot!
Steamed!
Morose!
Simmering!
Dejected!
None of these seem to quite fit the bill. What I can assure you of, is that my level of offense taken by these hideous, treasonous, swine, has assumed intolerable proportions, and I am but a hair’s breadth away from seriouly blowing a gasket!
I feel better now, but only slightly!
Archimedes on November 11, 2009 at 12:29 PM
Only too true I’m afraid, but don’t lose hope. There are millions of Americans waking up to what’s being done to this great country. The constitution and liberty will prevail!
donh525 on November 11, 2009 at 12:32 PM
Veterans Day Remembering The Pacific Theater WWII my father.
Dr Evil on November 11, 2009 at 12:33 PM
Your post sums it up for me too. I am way beyond grouchy.
Brat4life on November 11, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Please, no one looks and sounds as grouchy as the anointed one. He barely cracks a smile. The last time I saw him laughing his ass off was when he had made a joke about the struggling economy(stimulus package, banks and taking over the car industry). I find it cruel, and heartless when people are losing their job, and their homes that this president finds hilarious to joke about.
jaboba on November 11, 2009 at 12:36 PM
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yubley on November 11, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Heh. They must have gone to the Dan Rather School of Journalism. The whole thing smacks of “Oh it was fake. But so what? We all know it was true.” They’re doing the same freakin’ thing with the Hasan thing, and I find it disgusting. Jerkwads.
NathanG on November 11, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Dear AP,
Ha! You think I’m grouchy? This is my GOOD mood while I watch a community organizer spend my money like a drunken sailor! Wanna see my grouchy mood? Tune in when Obamanation begins to apologize to Asia later this week.
katablog.com on November 11, 2009 at 12:46 PM
God bless your father and all of our great American veterans.
betsyz on November 11, 2009 at 12:48 PM
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