Video: EPA lawyers blast cap-and-trade proposals

posted at 1:36 pm on November 10, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

What happens when EPA lawyers criticize proposals for cap-and-trade bills wending their way through Congress, demand more investment in nuclear power, and expose the failures of similar systems in Europe?  The most open and transparent administration evah tells them to shut up, at least to the extent of their expertise to discuss the issue.   First, let’s watch the video that explains their problems with cap-and-trade:

For this apostasy, the EPA told them to shut up:

The Environmental Protection Agency has directed two of its lawyers to makes changes to a YouTube video they posted that is critical of the Obama administration’s climate change policy.

The agency, citing federal policies, told the two lawyers, Laurie Williams and Allan Zabel, who are married and based in San Francisco, that they could mention their E.P.A. affiliation only once; must remove language specifying Mr. Zabel’s expertise and their years of employment with the agency; and must remove an image of the agency’s office in San Francisco.

They have been told that if they do not edit the video to comply with the policy, they could face disciplinary action.

The video, titled “The Huge Mistake,” was produced and posted in September. But the agency did not issue its warning until The Washington Post published a widely cited opinion article by the couple on Oct. 31 that raised concerns, echoing those in the video, about cap-and-trade legislation that the Obama administration supports.

The EPA and the administration claims that they have no problem with people speaking their minds.  However, their experience at EPA forms an important basis of their argument, at least in establishing their expertise in the field.  The image of the EPA facility depicts public property, which should hardly require permission to use in any political speech.  It’s an obvious attempt to harass and intimidate the couple.

I disagree with their position on this, of course.  We don’t need a “carbon tax” that will drive up the costs of production in the US while our unemployment rate is 10.2% and climbing.  We need cheap energy produced domestically that both employs a lot more Americans and creates an incentive for broad-based investment in American production overall.  But it’s worth watching to see how big a failure cap-and-trade has been wherever it’s been tried, and how this White House likes to silence those who depart from the party line.  And as Michelle notes, it’s not the first time the EPA’s been caught doing just that.


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There’s a chill wind blowing …

lorien1973 on November 10, 2009 at 1:39 PM

I’m not worried. Bleeds Blue assures me that Obama’s administration doesn’t try to quash descent and that Democrats in Congress can be trusted to pass 2000+ page bills that won’t detrimentally affect me or our economy.

gwelf on November 10, 2009 at 1:41 PM

This administration seems to have so much to hide.

becki51758 on November 10, 2009 at 1:41 PM

These 2 should tell them to go pound sand and remind them that we have laws that protect whistle blowers in this country.

TrickyDick on November 10, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Cap and trade is a joke, and cannot be passed. Couple that with Obama care, and this country is GONE!!!

capejasmine on November 10, 2009 at 1:42 PM

That’s a nice agency you have there.

LibTired on November 10, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Freedom is being told by your government to shut up. – Bleeds Blue

lorien1973 on November 10, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Many things become possible when you decide to say “NO!” and live with the consequences. It’s called Liberty, and it’s not Government-approved.

mojo on November 10, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Look at all the pollution coming from that nuclear power plant!!11!11!1!!

SouthernGent on November 10, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Come on you capitalist pigs – don’t tell me that society doesn’t need to put some restrictions on the free market to make sure it doesn’t harm the little guy – things like run healthcare (and 1/6th of the economy) and strictly and precisely control the energy production and consumption of private industries. Its small things like this that will make us more free.

/ leftard

gwelf on November 10, 2009 at 1:45 PM

This comes after 8 years of liberal whining about Bush trying to silence career employees at the EPA.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Look at all the pollution coming from that nuclear power plant!!11!11!1!!

SouthernGent on November 10, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Steam is a more potent greenhouse gas than CO2. ;)

Daggett on November 10, 2009 at 1:46 PM

This just proves how fascist W. and the Republicans are, intimidating American citizens into silence simply for having a different opinion that the administration.

Oh, wait, almost forgot who’s in charge now.

It is important for everyone who works in the executive branch to toe the line of the President.

/liberal hypocrite.

rbj on November 10, 2009 at 1:46 PM

I don’t see what the problem is. All Democrats want to do is put the IRS in charge of your healthcare and the EPA in charge of your company.

gwelf on November 10, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Most open administration evah!

Socratease on November 10, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Perhaps it’s the greatest threat to the United States:We have no energy policy. Obama certainly doesn’t have one other than to ruin the economy to implement his final solution of Marxism ridding the country of capitalism.

We needed to triple the size of existing refineries, drill off of the Northeast Coast, the Gulf Coast, and California coast. That to stop the bleeding of dollars to hateful regimes while we started construction to quadruple the nuclear capacity we now have. This country could have been energy independent in this way in five years, provided REAL jobs, and taken away political power from enemy regimes in the Middle East. Unfortunately, we are playing with mirrors and giant fans pretending to do something. Change I can believe in my ass. I think I’m going to announce my bid for the presidency in 2012 on this energy policy. I’m thinking of really pushing for term limits on the scumbags in Washington as well. I will register as a Republican if enough people here will vote for me. Thanks, and I approve this message………

adamsmith on November 10, 2009 at 1:48 PM

“Mane cause of climate change”?

Well, I suppose it just shows that there are multiple tears of how this is messed up.

Oh, and an old-growth forest isn’t trapping any CO2 on net. To get a forest to trap CO2, you have to cut lots of trees down. Though it probably wouldn’t be as much as just harvesting algae from the oceans and dropping it in mines.

Count to 10 on November 10, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Freedom? What freedom?

ORconservative on November 10, 2009 at 1:49 PM

“Main”, not “Mane”. Oops.

Count to 10 on November 10, 2009 at 1:49 PM

I wish someone would tell Obama to shut up.

upinak on November 10, 2009 at 1:51 PM

I disagree with their position on this, of course. We don’t need a “carbon tax” that will drive up the costs of production in the US while our unemployment rate is 10.2% and climbing.

And we need even less the “rebates”, which amount to another transfer of wealth from rich to poor (and rural to urban).

Count to 10 on November 10, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Steam is a more potent greenhouse gas than CO2. ;)

Daggett on November 10, 2009 at 1:46 PM

But not the condensed water droplets (which are what you are actually seeing).

Count to 10 on November 10, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Cap and trade is a joke, and cannot be passed. Couple that with Obama care, and this country is GONE!!!

capejasmine on November 10, 2009

That’s the plan. “Fundamentally changed…”, anyone?

SKYFOX on November 10, 2009 at 1:53 PM

I don’t see what the problem is. All Democrats want to do is put the IRS in charge of your healthcare and the EPA in charge of your company.

gwelf on November 10, 2009 at 1:47 PM

These two seem to want to put the IRS in charge of energy, too.

Count to 10 on November 10, 2009 at 1:55 PM

This video appears to be an honest effort by them, but “climate change” itself is a hoax. They’re lawyers, but I think they could have spent a little time getting real inforamtion instead of the politicized, distorted, false and misleading information put out by by our extremely biased governmental science agencies and the EPA.

There is no threat.

There is no man-made climate change.

I hate my government and consider it the most dangerous threat this country has ever faced.

darwin on November 10, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Interesting how James Hansen is not restricted from using his NASA credentials to proselytize anthropogenic global warming.

Laura on November 10, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Interesting video. Thanks for posting. However they don’t seem to grasp the whole redistribution of wealth angle that is the backbone of Cap & Trade.

The solution to “clean energy” is so obviously nuclear energy.

Check out the new book: “Terrestrial Energy” by William Tucker. You can find it on Amazon, etc.

visions on November 10, 2009 at 1:59 PM

They should send James Hanson from NASA over to break their kneecaps for speaking out.

pedestrian on November 10, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Streisand Effect to commence in 3…2…1…

ExUrbanKevin on November 10, 2009 at 2:01 PM

“Mane cause of climate change”?

Are you blaming lions or horses? :)

Steve Z on November 10, 2009 at 2:01 PM

Obama (with fingers in ears): Don’t bother me with the facts! Pass my bill ! PASS MY BILL ! PASS MY BILL !

Steve Z on November 10, 2009 at 2:03 PM

I think I might be on to something here…

1. Liberals love to consider foreign law and ruling precedence in America
2. England has declared ‘climate change’ as a religious belief.
3. Liberals believe that there must be an absolute and strict separation of church and state.

gwelf on November 10, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Are you blaming lions or horses? :)

Steve Z on November 10, 2009 at 2:01 PM

I blame phonetic spelling.

Count to 10 on November 10, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Rush just mentioned there is an environmental group attacking golf balls, and wants the current ones banned and biodegradable golf balls used.

This craziness will never stop…

ladyingray on November 10, 2009 at 2:06 PM

STOP COW FARTS NOW

faraway on November 10, 2009 at 2:08 PM

To help things along, here’s a spot of ‘good news’:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/09/mcintyre-and-lindzen-to-appear-on-finnish-tv-documentary-transcript/

‘Tis a shame you have to be Finnish to see it.

CPT. Charles on November 10, 2009 at 2:10 PM

Let’s try everything that has failed miserably in Europe, yep – good plan.

We can fail on a bigger scale, YES WE CAN!

reaganaut on November 10, 2009 at 2:10 PM

Wow when you are too radical and lefty for the EPA…

That’s … impressive in a weird way.

Dark Eden on November 10, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Interesting how James Hansen is not restricted from using his NASA credentials to proselytize anthropogenic global warming. Laura on November 10, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Nail on head.

Akzed on November 10, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Look at all the pollution coming from that nuclear power plant!!11!11!1!!

SouthernGent on November 10, 2009 at 1:43 PM
Steam is a more potent greenhouse gas than CO2. ;)

Daggett on November 10, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Shhhh! Next thing you know Libs will be using evil steam to take away our freedom because everyone knows water has more of an effect on the environment than carbon.

SGinNC on November 10, 2009 at 2:13 PM

These 2 should tell them to go pound sand and remind them that we have laws that protect whistle blowers in this country.

TrickyDick on November 10, 2009 at 1:42 PM

But that’s just it — it won’t happen. This is the crux of all these issues and of our time, i.e., individual courage. And it’s devastatingly missing in the apparatchik and political classes, or its rarer than hen’s teeth. These people will pull their video and shuffle back to work.

rrpjr on November 10, 2009 at 2:13 PM

Per Michael Crichton (State of Fear), I would truly love to know the ratio of scientists to lawyers at the EPA. These two may well be on the side of angels, but if the place as a whole is dominated by rentseekers, then we’ve got trouble.

Blacksmith on November 10, 2009 at 2:14 PM

The Fins…quietly hoping for global warming…..

BobMbx on November 10, 2009 at 2:15 PM

I’m not worried. Bleeds Blue assures me that Obama’s administration doesn’t try to quash descent and that Democrats in Congress can be trusted to pass 2000+ page bills that won’t detrimentally affect me or our economy.

gwelf on November 10, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Of course this administration doesn’t want to squash descent. They’ve been trying for a year to make the economy descend as fast as possible.

(Sorry, couldn’t pass up such a delicious straight line)

MarkTheGreat on November 10, 2009 at 2:15 PM

This comes after 8 years of liberal whining about Bush trying to silence career employees at the EPA.

Mark1971 on November 10, 2009 at 1:46 PM

I remember Hansen giving 5 to 10 interviews a week, constantly complaining about being muzzled.

MarkTheGreat on November 10, 2009 at 2:17 PM

“Main”, not “Mane”. Oops.

Count to 10 on November 10, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Dang, I was working up a straight line response to that one as well, but you caught it first.

MarkTheGreat on November 10, 2009 at 2:18 PM

Interesting how James Hansen is not restricted from using his NASA credentials to proselytize anthropogenic global warming. Laura on November 10, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Hansen has been neutered. Seems you can’t argue from both sides of the thermometer and maintain credibility. He’s now nothing more than a down-field blocker on a screen pass to the EPA.

BobMbx on November 10, 2009 at 2:18 PM

I remember Hansen giving 5 to 10 interviews a week, constantly complaining about being muzzled.

MarkTheGreat on November 10, 2009 at 2:17 PM

And liberals being very troubled about him being ‘muzzled’.

gwelf on November 10, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Goebbels is smiling…and a bit jealous.

jukin on November 10, 2009 at 2:20 PM

gwelf on November 10, 2009 at 2:04 PM

you and me both. I’ve been calling for the separation of church and state since this whole bloody end-of-days religion popped its delirious head up.

John the Libertarian on November 10, 2009 at 2:21 PM

STOP COW FARTS NOW

While we’re on the subject of the greenhouse gas methane:

END DECOMPOSITION OF ORGANIC MATTER NOW!!!11!

Mike Honcho on November 10, 2009 at 2:25 PM

Aren’t they protected by the Whistle-Blower Act of some years ago?

Dhuka on November 10, 2009 at 2:25 PM

Per Michael Crichton (State of Fear), I would truly love to know the ratio of scientists to lawyers at the EPA. These two may well be on the side of angels, but if the place as a whole is dominated by rentseekers, then we’ve got trouble.

Blacksmith on November 10, 2009 at 2:14 P

Great Book.

fourdeucer on November 10, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Does anyone (in their right mind) really think that a tax (carbon) is going to change the weather? Bwahahahaha! That is ridiculous!

txstar on November 10, 2009 at 2:32 PM

Aren’t they protected by the Whistle-Blower Act of some years ago?

Dhuka on November 10, 2009 at 2:25 PM

If you look into the history of whistle-blowers, you would never blow the whistle.
Probably the worst career choice is to be honest and report what is happening.

right2bright on November 10, 2009 at 2:33 PM

We need to punish California for forrest fires.
They didn’t buy carbon offsets.

seven on November 10, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Does anyone (in their right mind) really think that a tax (carbon) is going to change the weather? Bwahahahaha! That is ridiculous!

txstar on November 10, 2009 at 2:32 PM

You fool…tax of carbon is created by the God Goricle, do not laugh at him…blasphemer!

right2bright on November 10, 2009 at 2:36 PM

When you get some time, watch this video of Stalin’s rise to power. It is riviting and it is chilling and it will remind you of Mr. Obama.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9118985704353138889#

stenwin77 on November 10, 2009 at 2:37 PM

You fool…tax of carbon is created by the God Goricle, do not laugh at him…blasphemer!

right2bright on November 10, 2009 at 2:36 PM

Oh, please don’t tax me bro!

txstar on November 10, 2009 at 2:37 PM

This video appears to be an honest effort by them, but “climate change” itself is a hoax. They’re lawyers, but I think they could have spent a little time getting real inforamtion instead of the politicized, distorted, false and misleading information put out by by our extremely biased governmental science agencies and the EPA.

Amen
1. The Big Lie – Man Made Global Warming
2. The Big Ripoff – Taxing energy use as well as trading credits for no real gain.
3. The Real Solution – Cut the EPA, get rid of the bureaucrats, fire liberals in Congress. Stop every attempt toward CO2-as-a-pollutant and global governance.

Christian Conservative on November 10, 2009 at 2:40 PM

Whatever happened to President Obama listening “especially when we disagree.”

Mike Honcho on November 10, 2009 at 2:41 PM

The Environmental Protection Agency has directed two of its lawyers to makes changes to a YouTube video they posted that is critical of the Obama administration’s climate change policy.

Hopey changy fever strikes again…

Branch Rickey on November 10, 2009 at 2:42 PM

We could cut human methane pollution by at least 35% if we just sent all the liberal weenies to Mars.

jimmy2shoes on November 10, 2009 at 2:42 PM

There are already MASSIVE incentives for creating viable clean green energy.

The fossil fuels industry is a trillion dollar pie just waiting for some green entrepreneur to come take a slice out of it.

There is no need to subsidize any players in the biggest game on earth.

Energy.

(This only works if “green” means clean energy. It does not work with the actual progressive meaning of “Green”, which is social justice, redistribution of wealth, command economy.)

Thune on November 10, 2009 at 2:45 PM

Aren’t they protected by the Whistle-Blower Act of some years ago? Dhuka on November 10, 2009 at 2:25 PM

No, you’re thinking of the Whistleblower Act of Quite a While Back.

Akzed on November 10, 2009 at 2:50 PM

We don’t need a “carbon tax” that will drive up the costs of production in the US while our unemployment rate is 10.2% and climbing ever, especially since the entire thing is based on a hoax.

Ed Morrissey

FIFY Ed.

fossten on November 10, 2009 at 3:16 PM

Aren’t they protected by the Whistle-Blower Act of some years ago? Dhuka on November 10, 2009 at 2:25 PM

No, you’re thinking of the Whistleblower Act of Quite a While Back.

Akzed on November 10, 2009 at 2:50 PM

Besides, the Whistle Blower Act of Quiet a While Back doesn’t apply to Conservatives or whistle blowing on Liberals.

Holger on November 10, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Make sure this one is downloaded before Obama disappears it.

obladioblada on November 10, 2009 at 3:27 PM

This is America? No.

This is the U.S. government, and they can and will get it wrong. We are in the interregnum between government by the corrupt and venal, for the corrupt and venal and a return to government of the people, for the people.

Some assembly will be required (and possibly some ammo).

PD Quig on November 10, 2009 at 3:38 PM

Speak truth to power. Question authority. Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.

The One asked: “Words? Just words?” Apparently so.

RadClown on November 10, 2009 at 3:45 PM

“People won’t use alternative energy because they can’t afford it… oil is affordable” = “let’s make oil cost as much as alternative energy”.
 
?!?!?

CLaFarge on November 10, 2009 at 4:26 PM

I am old enough so that everything is quite a while back.

cheers

Dhuka on November 10, 2009 at 5:07 PM

When you get some time, watch this video of Stalin’s rise to power. It is riviting and it is chilling and it will remind you of Mr. Obama.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9118985704353138889#

stenwin77 on November 10, 2009 at 2:37 PM

Also read Richard Overy’s “The Dictators”.
The paralells between Stalin, Hitler, & now Obama’s rise to power are absolutely CHILLING.
Didn’t cha know someone had to mention Hitler?

Badger40 on November 10, 2009 at 5:29 PM

The EPA was wrong to stifle these morons. Let the idiots be heard!

hawksruleva on November 10, 2009 at 5:32 PM

WHY can’t we just ignore global climate change as a “problem” and revisit the issue in, say, a century, when we have more data?

ExpressoBold on November 10, 2009 at 6:35 PM

Human-caused CO2 emissions are not having any measurable effect on the environment except it is helping plantlife.

I’m for plants and their growth.

I had broccoli in my dinner.

I think these control freaks in the Dem party are nothing but bigots against plants. They eat veggies and then try to take the food out of their ….leaves.

Also, given the world is cooling the last 11 years, that manmade CO2 is not having any effect, and that hundreds of scientists are now bailing on the lame theory of global warming, it is time we started getting our energy from domestic sources to decrease the trade deficit, promote jobs, extract it cleanly as opposed to our enemies abroad, and help to reduce dependency and help national defense.

Sapwolf on November 10, 2009 at 7:05 PM

Notice how their solution is MORE big-government.

They can’t help it, since they are in San Francisco where of course they think they are smarter than everybody else.

If they were real crusaders, they would fight against it and lose their jobs. But, they won’t because they are libs and cowards, unlike Sarah who left her job with the energy commission in Alaska due to crimes by the Alaska GOP head.

Sapwolf on November 10, 2009 at 7:07 PM

Nice career you got there. Hate to see anything happen to it.

And we wonder why Army brass never spoke up against Hassan?

PattyJ on November 10, 2009 at 7:54 PM

When you get some time, watch this video of Stalin’s rise to power. It is riviting and it is chilling and it will remind you of Mr. Obama.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9118985704353138889#

stenwin77 on November 10, 2009 at 2:37 PM

I am glad to have taken the time to view that video. You are right; it is fascinating and appears to be a balanced, non-propagandistic rewriting of history. You are also right in seeing parallels of Stalin to Obama, especially in the carefully orchestrated image-making and personal weaknesses.
Thanks for the recommendation.

onlineanalyst on November 10, 2009 at 10:29 PM

This video appears to be an honest effort by them, but “climate change” itself is a hoax. They’re lawyers, but I think they could have spent a little time getting real inforamtion instead of the politicized, distorted, false and misleading information put out by by our extremely biased governmental science agencies and the EPA.

Amen
1. The Big Lie – Man Made Global Warming
2. The Big Ripoff – Taxing energy use as well as trading credits for no real gain.
3. The Real Solution – Cut the EPA, get rid of the bureaucrats, fire liberals in Congress. Stop every attempt toward CO2-as-a-pollutant and global governance.

Christian Conservative on November 10, 2009 at 2:40 PM

Absolutely right!!!

Carbon is simply an element. CO2 is an essential gas: without it, there is no life on earth.

The huge, primary error in this entire presentation is the assumption that any scientist, “environmentalist,” and/or any government truly knows how to control the climate, and that they know what “good climate” and “bad climate” is.

You can’t “solve” a problem when there is no problem, and/or when you cannot face the truth.

The nation and the world needs a huge dose of humility, and possibly a smack upside the head. It probably would help if Mother Nature would choose to take out a large field of windmills during the next tornado season.

landlines on November 10, 2009 at 10:46 PM

Hey I got a great idea. Let’s make clean energy look cheap by taxing the crap out of fossil fuels.

What a joke. First you have to accept the premise that global warming is man-made. Which I don’t and a lot of other folks are starting to question it as well.

boomer on November 10, 2009 at 11:31 PM

From the above linked article.

If Greenland was warm enough 1,000 years ago (when there were no SUVs or power plants) to be colonized by the Vikings and sustain vineyards, then the current state of the climate (when most of Greenland is covered by ice) cannot rationally be blamed on human activity.

If temperature data going back hundreds of years (long before there were SUVs driven by evilcapitalists) tracks with solar activity (and it does) including colder and warmer periods, then the current global temperatures cannot rationally be blamed on human activity.

If NASA data agrees with other data that solar activity is cyclic and corresponds to global temperature (and it does), then the current global temperatures cannot rationally be blamed on human activity.

When we see solar activity diminish, and we see global temperatures level off correspondingly (while human industrial activity has not diminished), then recent global warming cannot be rationally blamed on human activity.

If historical examination of the Peruvian ice cap shows higher global temperatures in the past (when there were no SUVs and coal-burning power plants), then the current global temperatures cannot rationally be blamed on human activity.

If other planets like Mars and Jupiter (where there are no evil capitalist-driven SUVs and coal-burning power plants) are warming, too (and they are), then current global temperatures on earth cannot be rationally blamed on human activity.

Even the claims of Gore and other earth-worshippers that there is “consensus” and this is “settled science” are a farce, with thousands of scientists refusing to drink the Koolaid and scientific organizations around the world declaring the emperor has no clothes, blowing claims of “consensus” completely out of the water.

In other words, if we open our eyes and take a look around us and at history, and we see global temperatures and temperature changes in the past that obviously had nothing to do with human industrial activity (because there was no industrial activity), it quickly becomes apparent that the theory of anthropogenic global warming is ludicrous in the extreme.

boomer on November 10, 2009 at 11:37 PM

The problem with the EPA and other government agencies… By and large they employee zealots.

Dasher on November 11, 2009 at 12:25 AM

http://www.veteranoutrage.com

Hell the only thing climate change will do is
Change all the money from the tax payers to
Al gore and all of his cronies..
Including the un which is desperate to start stealing money again – especially after the food for oil scandle and the sex scandles…

I wonder how much gore, obama and clinton promised all of their communist friends – billions of dollars..

Iam so sick to death of the liberals ripping of and raping the us treasury..

Personally all of these con – artists should be taken outside frozen in dry ice and then droppped off in the ocean..

think of their frozxen carcasses floating in the ocean as sort of a Vegetarian popsicle for the killer whales..

I know humans are still made of meat.. and bone and tissue
But these climate change idiots are so friggin BENT
I truly believe their made of FRUIT LOOPS and therefore qualify as vetetarian..

veteranoutrage on November 11, 2009 at 1:58 AM

boomer on November 10, 2009 at 11:37 PM

Right on!

They are just re wrapping the package to make it more palatable. It there was a transcript of the vid, it could be deconstructed line by line.

N4646W on November 11, 2009 at 9:58 AM