Video: If ObamaCare is so good …

posted at 12:15 pm on November 9, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Greg Hengler picks his favorite moment from the House debate on Saturday as the moment that Rep. Peter Roskam (R-IL) asked the question that could easily have been asked twenty years ago today at the Berlin Wall. If the ObamaCare proposal is so good, why do you have to imprison people who don’t want to participate?

We’ve heard from the best and the brightest all afternoon, and not a one of them have answered why it is that you have to criminalize people to coax them into a plan that’s so fabulous. It makes no sense. … The other side, with all due respect, with all the adjectives and all the flourishing speech, have failed to answer that question.

Why can’t they answer? They can’t. They need to force people into the system in order to spread the costs more evenly to everyone, which is why the House took the blatantly unconstitutional path of federal mandates for health insurance. They want to solve a problem involving 13% of the American population by burdening the 87% that doesn’t have the problem at all, rather than looking for a way to reduce health-care costs for 100%.

Ronald Reagan gave a brilliant speech in June 1987 in demanding that Mikhail Gorbachev “tear down this wall,” but he could just as easily have asked Gorbachev to answer this question: If Communism is such a benefit to its people, why do you have to force people to participate in it? The answer: Statism always requires force, and it always strips people of liberty. It always comes with handcuffs. That’s how we know it’s coming.

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My only point was that simply asking, “If it’s so good, why do you need to force people into it?” is not enough of an argument. It sounds good, and it’s simple and catchy, but it’s not convincing on its own, because that question can be asked of things that we agree are in fact “so good.”

Enough of an argument for what? What test do we have to meet to avoid coercion? I think in this country, the burden is on authority to justify its innovative coercion, not on the public to frame its liberty in a “thorough” manner. A very small child would reject the argument that a command ought be obeyed “Because.” WHY is Obama care so good, we have to force people into it?

Chris_Balsz on November 9, 2009 at 11:49 PM

I have noticed the socialists have a new favorite trick, when we tell them socialism isn’t authorized under the consitution, they claim we have already scrapped the constitution when we accepted the Air Force/Social Security/subsidized housing/public schools/police, so, really, we’re already too far along to get technical, because OF COURSE nobody wants to scrap the Air Force/Social Security/subsidized housing/public schools/police!!!

I always tell them, if you think those things justify socialism in America, then ditch them too. And they sputter and call me nuts.

They have forgotten or rather, disbelieve, that millions of Americans still with us were born into American communities without any of those things. Those trinkets have been promoted as useful but our county existed and thrived without them.

One problem with teaching American history to children is that adults later find it childlike.

Chris_Balsz on November 9, 2009 at 11:55 PM

I have an idea for future use of Guantanamo.
justltl on November 9, 2009 at 12:52 PM

Obama looks good in Orange suit.

Ed Laskie on November 10, 2009 at 11:30 AM

If the majority of Americans do not want Obamacare, who are representatives in Congress representing when they vote for it? And, why is there not one member of the media asking any representative this question?

beulah on November 10, 2009 at 11:37 AM

Same rationale: If communism is so good, why cant people leave their communist countries and why dont you see people breaking into them?

happy2behere on November 10, 2009 at 12:55 PM

If the majority of Americans do not want Obamacare, who are representatives in Congress representing when they vote for it? And, why is there not one member of the media asking any representative this question?

They are representing themselves, and the arrogant assumption Barack Obama will magically heal all this nation’s ills with a wave of his hand.

If that doesn’t make you throw up just a little bit, you’re not human.

englishqueen01 on November 10, 2009 at 2:13 PM

Haha! Keep kickin’ @$$, “gentleman from Illinois”!

ClassicalMusicNerd on November 10, 2009 at 2:27 PM

Oooooh, I like this guy!!!

galvestonian on November 10, 2009 at 3:26 PM

These leftover 60s radicals have not seen civil disobedience like they are going to see if they try to throw people in jail for not buying health insurance. There will be a movement of libertarians and even anarchists calling on people to drop their policies and refuse to participate. Is the government going to start sending jackbooted thugs to our doors to force us into this? Are there enough prisons to hold all of the new refuseniks?

rockmom on November 9, 2009 at 12:27 PM

I reckon it’ll be taken right out of your paycheck, like SSec., witholding, etc. (you won’t even miss it comrade). Those who pay quarterly estimated taxes will be the first offenders to have a warrant out for their arrest. As for the prison thing? Well… kind of raises the question of those fema camps again don’t it?

Another thought; what about all those noncustodial parents who pay child support having to pay until kids are 27? Going to be very bent out of shape I think.

fullogas on November 10, 2009 at 9:28 PM

If anyone suggests that there are 47 million people without health care in the u.s. they are a liar! Even obama changes this lie he said 30 million. How in good sense can the unisured or people lacking health care drop by 17 million overnight? It is easy the 47 million do not exist.

Why is it that so many u.s. citizens do not buy health care insurance? Of the 47 million how many are not americans? How many times do tax payers have to pay for medical treatment for some elses children? If i made 75 thousnd a year and do not buy medical care should my fellow citizen pay for my lack of responsibality.

If I am wrong please respond.

TomLawler on November 11, 2009 at 6:36 AM

I am sooooo angry right now. I went to DC last Thursday. I asked my Reps “people” since he ducked out, what do you call someone who ignores the people he is supposed to represent and imposes his will? They looked at me with the stepford wife look, I said to them it makes that person a dictator! Unfortunately New York does not allow recalls, but perhaps some of the people who have the recall laws should start to recall thier congressmen. We need to send STRONGER messages because they have NO FEAR of us. I for one will refuse to pay for this government run”healthcare”, I will not pay any fines and I will fight for my life not to go to jail.

margretto on November 11, 2009 at 8:54 AM