Time to walk away from Israeli-Palestinian conflict?
posted at 11:36 am on November 9, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
It’s not often that I agree with Tom Friedman, and even in this instance my agreement comes with heavy qualifiers. However, Friedman’s essential point in today’s column, that the US has no reason to pursue the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, is entirely correct. We would do worse than to follow this advice, even if just in the short term:
Let’s just get out of the picture. Let all these leaders stand in front of their own people and tell them the truth: “My fellow citizens: Nothing is happening; nothing is going to happen. It’s just you and me and the problem we own.”
Indeed, it’s time for us to dust off James Baker’s line: “When you’re serious, give us a call: 202-456-1414. Ask for Barack. Otherwise, stay out of our lives. We have our own country to fix.”
The fact is, the only time America has been able to advance peace — post-Yom Kippur War, Camp David, post-Lebanon war, Madrid and Oslo — has been when the parties felt enough pain for different reasons that they invited our diplomacy, and we had statesmen — Henry Kissinger, Jimmy Carter, George Shultz, James Baker and Bill Clinton — savvy enough to seize those moments.
Today, the Arabs, Israel and the Palestinians are clearly not feeling enough pain to do anything hard for peace with each other — a mood best summed up by a phrase making the rounds at the State Department: The Palestinian leadership “wants a deal with Israel without any negotiations” and Israel’s leadership “wants negotiations with the Palestinians without any deal.”
Why are we there in the first place? To some extent, we have made this a centerpiece of our diplomacy for decades as some sort of penance for our alliance with Israel. Administrations of both parties have approached the conflict as an apology for close ties with Israel, perhaps as a means of maintaining diplomatic credibility with Arab and Muslim nations in the region. Well, that hasn’t worked out very well, has it? The nations that hate us still hate us, and the nations that sell us oil would still sell us oil anyway. (We get more from Canada and Mexico, anyway.)
For the most part, the best we can say is that we haven’t made the situation any worse, although lately we can’t even say that. We draft Road Maps and Wye River accords and attempt to force both sides into accepting them, with the inevitable result that both sides agree only to those conditions they like. The Israelis have gone farther on several occasions, including especially with Bill Clinton, only to have Yasser Arafat reject their concessions and call for armed intifada instead. And that was the high-water mark for American diplomacy between the two.
Friedman uses a “pox upon both houses” approach to ditching the effort, and that is where we diverge. The Israeli-Palestinian peace process will never move forward under the current conditions because the Palestinians put terrorists in charge of their pseudo-state. The Palestinian leadership does not desire peace or coexistence with an Israeli state; they want the Israeli state to themselves. Our continued recognition of this leadership (considered the “moderate” or pragmatic terrorists) does nothing to encourage the Palestinians to push that radical, violent leadership aside for people who want real peace. As long as the Palestinians have such people in charge, we will continue to see zero progress in peace negotiations. While it takes two enemies to discuss peace, it takes two enemies interested in peace — which this process has never had, regardless of how many American Presidents of both parties pretended it does.
We should stop feeling as though we have to apologize for our friendship with Israel, or pretend that the Palestinians and their Arab neighbors didn’t create their own misery through a series of wars against Israel which they lost. Let the Palestinians and the Israelis tend to their own interests, and we should tend to our own as well. When the Palestinians figure out that we are not interested in beating our heads against the wall by dealing with terrorists uninterested in actual negotiations, then perhaps they’ll produce effective leadership with more interest in coexistence rather than annihilation.
Update: An interesting point from Tom Maguire:
Friedman is not attempting to match his advice to the realities of the current Administration. First, it is led by a former street organizer – take away “process” and there is nothing left.
Well, exactly.










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I think we pretty much have abandoned talks. Hillary stated the position clearly. Israel is ignoring it. Ditto for Palestine.
It’s pretty much now just a short stop on the way to Asia.
AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Obama screwed it up beyond repair when he insisted on a total Israeli settlement freeze, something the US and Palestinians had never asked for. Abbas seized on this, and cannot now back down or lose face in the Arab world. Netanyahu gave a partial concession on settlements, but Abbas cannot. Netanyahu will never agree to a total freeze. He’d lose his coalition and his job.
Heckuva job, Barry.
Wethal on November 9, 2009 at 11:41 AM
And when Israel is attacked militarily… AGAIN… do we sit by and watch?
Do we wait until it escalates to the point of Israel’s existance being threatened, so Israel uses the Nukes no one wants to talk about?
Romeo13 on November 9, 2009 at 11:42 AM
This conflict was so much simpler when we could just blame Bush.
sammypants on November 9, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Elections have consequences…the USA elected a complete amateur.
d1carter on November 9, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Ah, so the rainbow across the world isn’t appearing for Soetoro in this conflict either! Gee, I thought he was the one who would change the world. All it takes is talking to them … blah, blah, blah.
Oh well. Another hypothesis busted.
Soetoro’s failed presidency is becoming reality.
Ricohoc on November 9, 2009 at 11:44 AM
Not in Gaza. It is too deeply tied to and dependent on the Iranians now to change. Unless something changed drsastically in Iran.
Wethal on November 9, 2009 at 11:44 AM
If they only demanded Palestine to behave civilized , there could be some possibilities.
the_nile on November 9, 2009 at 11:46 AM
And better to do it now before Bambi’s credibility is tarnished. In Freidman’s world Bambi is still a wonderkind. Meanwhile the real world has figured him out.
rockhead on November 9, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Time to let Israel to clear the field, Obama should understand the benefit of that.
If he just places Palestinians in the political opponent category the way forward will become obvious.
Speakup on November 9, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Freidman wants to ditch the effort because his boy in the White House promised to fix the ills of the world, and now Tom have discovered that will never happen since Obama’s only strategies for bringing about world peace are limited to sending letters and having beer summits.
fogw on November 9, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Fixed it. I don’t think the Palestinian leaders care how much pain their people feel.
blink on November 9, 2009 at 11:50 AM
He cannot hide behind TOTUS any longer….everybody can see thru the glass screen.
No more hiding from the Econony, Iran, Iraq, Afganistan, and all the other mounting challenges this arrogant, self-absorbed, in-experienced, amateur, marxist has to make decisions on.
PatriotRider on November 9, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Amen!
Grantman on November 9, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Good point.
Obama in 2008: “I will fix all the world’s problems.”
Obama in 2010: “We don’t need to fix the world’s problems.”
blink on November 9, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Considering all the “peace” that came out of the Oslo accords and the Camp David talks, and considering who is Pres right now, I would suggest the US stay out of the Israeli-Palestinian thing. It’s relatively quiet right now for a reason: No well meaning peace processes.
mjk on November 9, 2009 at 11:52 AM
When the Reykjavik summit between Reagan and Gorbachev exploded in acrimony, and the world’s Press was pillorying him for being the first President not to sign a meaningless arms-control agreement with the Soviets, Ronald Reagan said simply:
“When they’re ready to talk, they’ll be back.”
And that’s exactly what happened.
Our message to the Palestinians should simply be: “When you’re ready to talk, we’re ready to help. Until then, Israel is our friend, and we stand by our friends.”
potkas7 on November 9, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Walk away? How about we walk away with our tax dollars? I’d like all my foreign aid to Israel back please. If we were serious about the conflict maybe we could quit paying for the bombs dropped on Palestine? That might be a good gesture.
The Calibur on November 9, 2009 at 11:54 AM
I’ve thought we should walk away from this for a long time. We have no national interest in so-called ‘Palestine’ and the Palestinians have no desire to call a halt to the jihad. Israel can look after itself and has done since it was born.
The Peace Process is a bad joke. It is not possible to negotiate with an entity dedicated to your complete destruction. Hamas explicitly states that is their aim, and Fatah implicitly proves it at every turn.
If they do not want peace, and they have never shown any desire for it, let the Palestinians live in a hell hole of their own making. Who knows, maybe one day they’ll wake up and choose more reasonable leaders but don’t hold your breath.
Anders on November 9, 2009 at 11:54 AM
We are “in it” to protect our ally-Israel period. That’s the only reason to be involved in the middle east.
ndulik on November 9, 2009 at 11:56 AM
The main reason Carter had luck with Sadat and Begin was that Sadat wanted to get the Soviets out of Egypt because of their growing presence. But they were there to “protect” Egypt from Israel.
Sadat realized he could get rid of the Soviets, maybe get Sinai back, and that he had no real ideological problem with the existence of Israel (the man who later assasinated him did).
Wethal on November 9, 2009 at 11:56 AM
When conservatives say stay out of it, they mean to keep supporting Israel. When the left says stay out of it, they mean to give Israel over to the jackals.
pedestrian on November 9, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Are you arguing for neutrality, Ed? If you are, shouldn’t we be either selling arms equally to both combatants, or selling arms to neither?
That’s what leaving the place alone would entail.
I cannot see us going there.
unclesmrgol on November 9, 2009 at 11:57 AM
“Maj.” Nidal Hasan is a Palestinian – I want those twelve lives back.
runner on November 9, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Friedman could have written pretty much the same things any time during the last several years, but he didn’t. It’s clear that he cares little for Israel or the Palestinians; his priority is CYA for the Obama administration. Even if Friedman’s analysis is correct, it is frightening how casually he is willing to throw anything or anyone “under the bus” in order to protect Obama’s reputation.
jwolf on November 9, 2009 at 11:59 AM
Uh oh…will Dear Leader have to return his Nobel??! ;)
atlgal on November 9, 2009 at 11:59 AM
FIFY
MidWestFarmer on November 9, 2009 at 11:59 AM
correction – 13.
runner on November 9, 2009 at 11:59 AM
If they only demanded Palestine to behave civilized , there could be some possibilities.
the_nile on November 9, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Who is Palestine??? And who the heck are Palestinians???
papabrody on November 9, 2009 at 12:00 PM
The irony is, most leftists approach the Israeli-Palestinian situation like that joke about the drunk looking for the wallet he lost two streets over under the streetlight, because that’s where the light is. They berate, pressure, and lean all over Israel because Israel is a free country responsive to its citizenry and world opinion, and they can get results from Israel.
Not so much from the Palestinians. Between the inability to get results and white guilt, lefties forget to put real pressure on the side who needs it most.
Sekhmet on November 9, 2009 at 12:00 PM
That’s a better use of my tax dollars than funneling them to the cleptocratic congressmen.
dpierson on November 9, 2009 at 12:00 PM
…. our ONLY ally in that savage infested part of the world.
fogw on November 9, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Too late for that. Pookie sold it to fund his online bong retailing operation.
Anders on November 9, 2009 at 12:02 PM
I agree we should walk away, but I mean entirely away, and let Israel do whatever she needs to do to clean house, in Palestine and beyond.
TXUS on November 9, 2009 at 12:03 PM
Of course not:
Today, the Arabs, Israel and the Palestinians are clearly not feeling enough pain to do anything hard for peace with each other
We send Hillary Clinton over to Tel Aviv to lecture them on having to feel pain if they want to progress towards peace.
highhopes on November 9, 2009 at 12:05 PM
That Friedman wants to abandon Israel at a time most critical to them, and that is the larger point here, is despicable.
Dusty on November 9, 2009 at 12:05 PM
I demand a state for the Phoenicians. They give us an alphabet and introduce the importance of trade, and now what do they have? Nothing. Support a Phoenician state NOW!
WashJeff on November 9, 2009 at 12:05 PM
The funniest thing about this is Obama truly believed the problems in the Middle East were simply a matter of people not having talked to each other enough and all that was needed was some really good conversations. Once everyone got their quality time they would be ready to deal.
The man is a complete idiot.
Rocks on November 9, 2009 at 12:05 PM
It is scary the way this administration of street thugs and ideologues unthinkingly throw away well-established relationships and principles. They are willing to deal with Chavez, Castro, or Kim Jung Il but they are unwilling to lift one finger to help Israel.
highhopes on November 9, 2009 at 12:08 PM
Excellent post Ed.
ernesto on November 9, 2009 at 12:09 PM
papabrody on November 9, 2009 at 12:09 PM
We shouldn’t walk away, but we could admit that the two-state solution has always been a sham. It won’t work because that has never been the goal of the “Palestinians.”
Connie on November 9, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Nothing has worked for the past 60-70 years. It’s like picking at a scab. Let the two parties duke it out.
I hate sending money to foreign countries. I don’t get to choose where I want my money to go and frankly the State Department doesn’t reflect my values. Neither does the present administration.
I don’t care where HRC goes and what she says, she is also an Alinsky-ite. She sold her soul to the devil to pay off her campaign debts and gave up her seat in the Senate. There isn’t much good, honest, or trusworthy about her. Voting for her because she is a woman is practicing identity politics and that just doesn’t cut it anymore. Been there, tried that and it is a disaster.
BetseyRoss on November 9, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Obama: “Hey, you f’ed up. You trusted us.“
Caper29 on November 9, 2009 at 12:10 PM
Thank you Ed for an excellent note. Friedman is a “pox on both houses” person from way back. He feels the Israeli Jews should be willing to die in large numbers and on a regular basis so that he and his Manhattan millionaire friends can feel good about themselves.
And to “The Calibur” Cut the sh_t and learn how to read. First we have spent more on Iraq in the past six years than we have on Israel in the past 60 years. Second, how about getting our money back from the Saudis and Kuwaiti’s and folks in the UAE for whom we spend tens of billions of dollars a year in oil transfer protection money. And maybe the if the Arabs did not show so much joy every time Americans are murdered like in Ft Hood by your personal buddy Hasan, maybe then we might have some respect for them
georgealbert on November 9, 2009 at 12:10 PM
This will happen just about the time hell freezes over.
While I understand this in context, if Mr. Morrissey had written about a moderate or pragmatic terrorist twenty years ago, he would have been put in a straight-jacket. Today, even accepting the term is still preposterous, unless it was a liberal newsperson describing Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan.
Rovin on November 9, 2009 at 12:11 PM
I say we go the next step and demand that Pangaea be reunited.
highhopes on November 9, 2009 at 12:12 PM
Here’s the deal:
Israel wants to be left alone.
Arabs want to kill as many Jews as they can.
How do you negotiate that?
angryed on November 9, 2009 at 12:13 PM
Is it just me, or is Hillary wearing a wig in that picture? Her hair is quite…bouffant.
varnson on November 9, 2009 at 12:14 PM
The Palestinian mission at the UN has a map of “Palestine.”
The borders run from Lebanon and Syria in the north, from Egypt in the south and from Jordan to the Mediterranean Sea. They want it all. They want Israel to cease to exist.
Wethal on November 9, 2009 at 12:14 PM
FIFY
Anders on November 9, 2009 at 12:16 PM
The Palestinians threatened violence again today.
“Give us peace or we’ll kill you”
Phoenician on November 9, 2009 at 12:19 PM
That, and the more he tries negotiating with people you can’t negotiate with, the more foolish he looks. This reporter could write pretty much the same story about Iran.
scalleywag on November 9, 2009 at 12:19 PM
I find this article very disturbing and suspicious.
An article in H’aretz this weekend said there is scuttlebutt around the UN about “Palestine” declaring its independence as a nation with 1967 borders with Israel, to be followed by an immediate UN General Assembly vote to recognize it. Then all Israeli settlements in “Palestine” and Israeli presence in Jerusalem would be declared illegal, and the Palestinians justified in launching a war to evict Israel from their territory.
If the U.S. really did walk away as Friedman suggests, it would be the perfect prelude to such a declaration of a Palestinian state. The U.S., having washed its hands of the peace process, would hardly be able to justify walking back in to help defend Israel in a war that was “justly” launched by a “sovereign” Palestine. It would therefore announce that the U.S. recognizes the new state of Palestine.
If you think this is far-fetched, just hide and watch. I don’t believe Tom Friedman would have written something this provocative unless he was asked to.
rockmom on November 9, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Israel has every right, and duty to it’s people, to defend itself from attack, and harm.
If some don’t like it, tough! Deal with it. You’d expect nothing less from your country, on your behalf.
As an ally of many years, we should do all we can to help defend Israel. Fat chance we should defend terrorists. They’d stab you in the back afterward, just as soon as look at you!
capejasmine on November 9, 2009 at 12:25 PM
Wait a second. What was the purpose of the UN making a border if Israel may cross and occupy it whenever they please?
The Calibur on November 9, 2009 at 12:25 PM
Actually, we also need to cut off aid from the UN to the Palestinians. Since they are being given enough money to live off of and purchase weapons, they have little incentive to actually try and produce something of value.
Force them to live off the fruits of their own labor and you might see some pretty dramatic changes in their relative prioritization of jihad and securing food and shelter.
18-1 on November 9, 2009 at 12:28 PM
I can’t see how we can possibly walk away from Israel. The UN already has a bias against Israel and the US and UK are the only nations between a UN settlement with Palestine and Israels sovereignty.
fourdeucer on November 9, 2009 at 12:30 PM
Israel should immediately recognize Palestine as an independent state, then when the next attack comes, immediately declare war on Palestine and deal with the freaking problem once and for all.
jimmy2shoes on November 9, 2009 at 12:33 PM
Friedman only makes sense when there is a Dem in the White House – then he can get all muscular and tough-sounding, know that he can safely talk the talk, because the the Dem President will never walk that walk. I remember in the early and mid 1990s reading quite a bit of Friedman – of course, on a Canadian college campus, Friedman seems positively Kristolesque.
holdfast on November 9, 2009 at 12:41 PM
It’s always amazed me how many people, on both the left and the right, are convinced that if only we in the US ignored the rest of the world, all of it’s problems would vanish.
MarkTheGreat on November 9, 2009 at 12:41 PM
We need to “walk away” from Osama Obama and Shrillery.
After that, when we have put adults in charge, we can decide who our friends are, who our enemies are, and then make an open declaration of same, letting the world know that, as in days past when America counted for something, that we will defend the first and, if necessary, help our allies suppress the latter.
MrScribbler on November 9, 2009 at 12:43 PM
I’ve always thought that if we had to invade someone, we should invade the country of Cognito.
The news reports are full of reports about people being held in Cognito. Imagine the thousands of people we could free. We’d be heros again.
MarkTheGreat on November 9, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Yes, we SHOULD walk away from negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians. Both Presidents Bush and President Clinton tried mightly to negotiate an agreement, but in 2000 a dovish Israeli Prime Minister named Barak nearly gave away the store, and Arafat slammed the door in his face. They’re always greedy, they always want more, they’ll never stop blowing things up in Israel until the Jews are pushed into the sea, so why should “our” Barack give them ANYTHING?
Israel is now governed by the hawkish Binyamin Netanyahu, a strong, courageous, no-nonsense, articulate leader who has already faced this problem before, and knows that the Palestinians can’t be trusted. Israel is HIS country, not ours, and he knows how to defend it–why should we try to tie his hands?
Steve Z on November 9, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Like most apologists for terror, you neglect to mention why Isreal crossed those borders. A little thing like war, perhaps you heard of it. Isreal’s neighbors, on multiple occassions, massed against it and attacked it. In the process of beating back the attacks, Isreal seized the land the attacks were launched from. Something that is completely recognized in international law, and something that every country in the world (except apparently Israel) is permitted to do.
MarkTheGreat on November 9, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Hey Calibur. How about cutting off the US tax dollars that get to the palestinians also? Oh, I forgot, those don’t count. They are supposed to buy food, medicine and infrastructure. Instead they buy Israeli and palestinian death. God are you dumb and biased!
Old Country Boy on November 9, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Iseral is teh suck. All are problems r caused by Zionists and Neocons!!11!!1!11!11
/Paulbots
stefanite on November 9, 2009 at 1:06 PM
The Phoenicians lived somewhere around Gaza but were far more advanced than the current occupants.
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on November 9, 2009 at 1:09 PM
What “border” did the UN make? The Armistice Line is NOT an official border. The only legal border that exists is as follows:
Briefly stated, the boundaries are as follows:
North. – From Ras en Naqura on the Mediterranean eastwards to a point west of Qadas, thence in a northerly direction to Metulla, thence east to a point west of Banias.
East. – From Banias in a southerly direction east of Lake Hula to Jisr Banat Ya’pub, thence along a line east of the Jordan and the Lake of Tiberias and on to El Hamme station on the Samakh-Deraa railway line, thence along the centre of the river Yarmuq to its confluence with the Jordan, thence along the centres of the Jordan, the Dead Sea and the Wadi Araba to a point on the Gulf of Aqaba two miles west of the town of Aqaba, thence along the shore of the Gulf of Aqaba to Ras Jaba.
South. – From Ras Jaba in a generally north-westerly direction to the junction of the Neki-Aqaba and Gaza Aqaba Roads, thence to a point west-north-west of Ain Maghara and thence to a point on the Mediterranean coast north-west of Rafa.
West. – The Mediterranean Sea.
Godefroi on November 9, 2009 at 1:10 PM
You know, not to be that guy….but Rush has made a point in the past that holds some merit. He said basically, there will be peace when there is a winner. It’s not the best solution, because war is terrible…BUT…..
search4truth on November 9, 2009 at 1:19 PM
The Muslims prefer the status quo over peace. Via Barry Rubin:
guest77 on November 9, 2009 at 1:23 PM
Comment of the Day™
steveegg on November 9, 2009 at 1:25 PM
Just jurious: if conservatives are so supportive of property rights, then why don’t they condemn Israel’s confiscation of Palestinian land and demolitions of Palestinian homes in order to make way for new settlement expansion? Israeli settlers are thieves who live off of stolen resources and leech off of disproportionate amounts of subsidies from the Israeli government. Of course, this doesn’t stop American right-wingers from fully supporting them in their colonization efforts.
I guess that the only things conservatives consider “theft” are the taxes levied on the top income tax brackets. When its the rich and privileged stealing from the poor and undesireable they could care less.
AJB on November 9, 2009 at 1:56 PM
Or maybe the Palestinians could stop giving Israel reasons to drop bombs on them.
Meanwhile, I’m guessing you’re ok with the foreign aid we give to the Palestinians that they use to buy weapons.
xblade on November 9, 2009 at 2:22 PM
Because we don’t buy into make-believe the way you guys do.
xblade on November 9, 2009 at 2:24 PM
Israeli leaders, both left and right, don’t JUST wan’t negotiations for the sake of negotiations. They want the conflict over. The ONLY problem is the lack of partnership on the other side and their inability to come to terms with their best deal involving getting only half the cake. It’s not just weak leaders, it’s the grassroots level of violence that will be unleashed on any pragmatic leader. A guy who will publicly say “we give up on the right of return” will not survive the night.
It’s quite depressing, but that’s reality. Obama should stop embarrassing himself and the United States by sending his “special envoys” on useless wild goose chaises.
AlexB on November 9, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Absolutely.
Billions of Christians are praying for the day that the Palestinian Christians will get their land back and that the brutal injustices committed against them by the israeli government will come to an end.
Considering that America will do nothing to end the injustices against the Palestinian Christians..America needs to just stay out of it and mind their own business.
Christian Russia will shortly deal with the israeli government. Putin will shortly invade them and take away the israeli nuclear weapons that started the whole mideast nuclear arms race to begin with.
After the georgian war, Putin established a base in syria (on the border of the golan heights) and he has recently sold arms to all of the israeli government’s enemies at manufacturing cost.
Putin is coming looking for revenge for the georgia/mossad debacle that happened last year.(for those of you in the dark who ONLY get your news from the Associated Press)..Putin has stated point blank that during the georgian war,Russia killed and captured TONS of Mossad agents there and that all of Georgia’s military equipment was israeli made.
Russia will invade israel soon,take away their nuclear weapons and the state of israel will be owned by and become a part of,the Russian Federation.
All of the displaced Palestinian Orthodox Christians will return and millions of Orthodox Christians will be imported into the land of Palestine.
The land of Palestine will finally return to it’s rightful owners,those who have lived there continuously for the past 2,000 years: Orthodox Christians!
MaximusConfessor on November 9, 2009 at 2:38 PM
The press is just giving cover for the failure of Obama.
Did the liberal press ever say that Bush should walk away from the Israeli-Palestinian conflict? No, they complained because he did not get more involved in it.
Obama is failing and he is now using the press to spin it so that he is not to blame, everyone else is.
This will be the same treatment given to Afghanistan, Iran, North Korea, etc., etc., etc.
Barry is not about setting a goal and reaching it. He is about being present as things happen around him.
albill on November 9, 2009 at 2:45 PM
Please give a source for your claim that Israel has gotten land apart from purchasing it, or during a war in response to an all out attack (or imminent attack in the case of 1967), or from the 1948 UN partition that was needed because of Arabs reneging on their previous sales.
pedestrian on November 9, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Might want to reread the Scriptures there.
jimmy2shoes on November 9, 2009 at 3:44 PM
I am not a young woman and for as long as I can remember American presidents of both parties have tried to bring peace to this region and end this conflict. It will not end until the people directly involved in the process are ready for it to end. I also think the UN the EU need to butt out and stop giving aid to the corrupt Palestinians. They are only keeping the thieves in power.
Terrye on November 9, 2009 at 3:55 PM
Piling on here:
The 1948 partition declared TWO (2) regions. Whatever happened to the other one?
Israel was attacked immediately and ever since has farmed, built, studied and created a properous state inspite of international pressure to fail.
The other region was… [I'll abbreviate ] an abysmal failure. Hint for the interested “They call it the religion of peace”.
/no snarc, really
Blacksmith8 on November 9, 2009 at 3:58 PM
The between-the-lines reading of Global Gasbag Tom’s piece, the conclusion he’s reached but would never actually write, is that given this administration’s foreign policy efforts to date the one thing more disastrous for the world and for the US than walking away from the issue would be expecting Obama and Hillary and Susan Rice and the rest of this bunch of amateurs actually to do something.
JEM on November 9, 2009 at 5:28 PM
Sorry Max….the rightful original owners are already there….The Jews. Go ahead Max and plan another Inquisition, Crusade, Progrom or Holocaust because it will not work this time…..we’re here to stay.
papabrody on November 9, 2009 at 8:20 PM