Feds dropped inquiry into Hasan’s contacts with jihadis because … he didn’t seem violent

posted at 8:27 pm on November 9, 2009 by Allahpundit

Wonderful.

Intelligence agencies intercepted communications last year and earlier this year between Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, who is accused of shooting to death 13 people at Fort Hood, Tex., and a radical cleric in Yemen known for his incendiary anti-American teachings. But federal authorities dropped an inquiry into the matter after deciding the messages warranted no further action, government officials said on Monday.

Maj. Hasan’s exchanges with Anwar al-Awlaki, once a spiritual leader at a mosque in suburban Virginia where Maj. Hasan worshipped, indicate that the troubled military psychiatrist came to the attention of the authorities long before long before last Thursday’s shooting rampage at Fort Hood, but left him in his post. It is not clear what was said in the exchanges, believed to be e-mail messages, and whether they would have offered a hint at the major’s outspoken views or his declining emotional state…

But federal officials briefed on the case said their decision to break off the investigation was reasonable based on the information about Maj. Hasan that was compiled at the time, which they said gave no indication he was likely to engage in violence.

The officials said the communications do not alter the prevailing theory that Maj. Hasan acted by himself, lashing out as a result of combination of factors, including his outspoken opposition to American policy in Iraq and Afghanistan and his deepening religious fervor as a Muslim.

No word on what was in the e-mails. Cooking tips, maybe? Still, consider this progress. All it took for the jihad angle to be considered one possible factor in the shooting is this turd sending e-mails to Al Qaeda; maybe a video of him hanging out with Osama will surface and we can go ahead and nudge it towards “possible main factor.” As for Awlaki, I wrote about him this weekend but this bit from a U.S. counterterror official quoted in a WaPo story last year bears mentioning again: “There is good reason to believe Anwar Aulaqi has been involved in very serious terrorist activities since leaving the United States, including plotting attacks against America and our allies.” If Awlaki was considered a “very serious” terrorist threat as of 2008, how can any e-mail sent to him by Hasan have not been cause for great concern? Even if the e-mails weren’t explicitly violent or threatening, the other red flags in Hasan’s file should have set off alarm bells about where this might lead. It’d be like a U.S. military officer sending telegrams to the German command during WWII. Whatever his reason is, it’s a bad reason.

You’ll be pleased to know, incidentally, that Awlaki considers Hasan a hero whom other Muslims should emulate. As for the hero himself, he’s headed to trial in a military court. Ed thinks that’s good news, but given how far the army evidently went to avoid, ahem, “discriminating” against this guy, I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up with a life sentence instead of the death penalty.


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Doil. =. soil

Sonosam on November 9, 2009 at 9:37 PM

More likely Eric Holder told them to stop.

drjohn on November 9, 2009 at 9:26 PM

Well, it could be worse… he could have been charged in federal court, found guilty, and then Holder drops the case.

mmm mmm mmm

malclave on November 9, 2009 at 9:42 PM

When in doubt, it’s always better to be sorry than safe.

Christien on November 9, 2009 at 9:47 PM

It’s amazing how despite the horrendous results combined with the backstory the press is mildly strolling along
I’m totally depressed
the left, I have always felt, has been an ally of the radicals since they are commies deep down and are using these radicals the way the soviets used them only this time it’s from our doil
the fall of the Berlin may have been great but it didn’t come with the deaths of the braintrust behind the wall
their ideals just moved here which we witness when the left lauds gorbechev instead of Reagan
now we are suffering the results
president bush was on an island and many of us are to blame for being brainwashed by the relentless media which has now muted itself
I don’t think we can come back since once we find someone who represents the values of old America the media will reawaken to destroy them
Sonosam on November 9, 2009 at 9:36 PM

Sonosam on November 9, 2009 at 9:48 PM

I’m not in the military but at my job I can be fired for sending emails critical of Obama. I’m not kidding.

roux on November 9, 2009 at 9:50 PM

Makes one really wonder if you should let your sons and daughters join.

CWforFreedom on November 9, 2009 at 10:00 PM

It’s official, we’ve truly entered a world where fact is stranger then fiction. I’m going to go bury myself in a sci fi novel for alittle

Defector01 on November 9, 2009 at 10:06 PM

You know how they say that when it comes to protecting America from terrorist attacks the terrorists need only be right once, and we need to be right 100% of the time?

The streak is over.

BKeyser on November 9, 2009 at 10:11 PM

In related news

Paper -shredders and incinerators working overtime @ FBI since 11/5/09

macncheez on November 9, 2009 at 10:12 PM

It’s official, we’ve truly entered a world where fact is stranger then fiction. I’m going to go bury myself in a sci fi novel for alittle

Defector01 on November 9, 2009 at 10:06 PM

Check this out: http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/confessions-of-a-cultural-drop-out/

Django on November 9, 2009 at 10:22 PM

Our diversity, not only in our Army, but in our country, is a strength. And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse.
- General Casey

MB4 on November 9, 2009 at 8:59 PM

Stop and think about what he is saying here. If our diversity takes a hit that is actually worse than the death and injury of so many people on one of our largest bases. The statement is just staggering. I was appalled when I heard it, and think he should be fired or whatever it is they do in the military.

silvernana on November 9, 2009 at 10:46 PM

WW2 Japanese, Italians and Germans with nationalistic ties; sent to internment camps.
Present day; anti-American, anti-military muslims embraced.
No pc?

Johan Klaus on November 9, 2009 at 10:48 PM

It’s official, we’ve truly entered a world where fact is stranger then fiction.

I’m going to go bury myself in a sci fi novel for alittle

Defector01 on November 9, 2009 at 10:06 PM

Avoid “Invasion of the Body Snatchers“~!

The Einstein Intersection” by Samuel R. Delany is worth a read, however.

profitsbeard on November 9, 2009 at 10:50 PM

MB4 on November 9, 2009 at 8:59 PM

PC insanity. If it was my anyone in my family that died, I would have a heart to heart with that miserable wretch of a general. H

Johan Klaus on November 9, 2009 at 10:56 PM

I’ll say it again: the reason that this guy is being tried in a military tribunal and not by the DOJ is because the latter would be tantamount to admitting that a terrorist attack had occurred on American soil less than one year into Obama’s presidency.

I don’t mind too much, though. However much they’ve bowed to the Political Correctness Gods before, I can’t imagine the military leaders overseeing this trial feeling particularly lenient. And we all know it was a terrorist attack, anyway.

Animator Girl on November 9, 2009 at 10:56 PM

Theres still way too much missing information.

Who are the “federal authorities” who decided Hasan wasn’t a risk and when did they make that determination?

Also, what role if any did America’s Top Cop, Eric Holder have in that decision?

OxyCon on November 9, 2009 at 11:00 PM

PS. What are the odds they give him a life sentence because they’re concerned about making him a martyr? Anyone with insight into military justice think this could be a factor?

Animator Girl on November 9, 2009 at 11:01 PM

MB4 on November 9, 2009 at 8:59 PM

General Casey is the same type of pc officer, who saddles our military with those deadly ROE.

Johan Klaus on November 9, 2009 at 11:01 PM

I don’t mind too much, though. However much they’ve bowed to the Political Correctness Gods before, I can’t imagine the military leaders overseeing this trial feeling particularly lenient. And we all know it was a terrorist attack, anyway.

Animator Girl on November 9, 2009 at 10:56 PM

See below.

Our diversity, not only in our Army, but in our country, is a strength. And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse.
- General Casey

MB4 on November 9, 2009 at 8:59 PM

Johan Klaus on November 9, 2009 at 11:04 PM

Is anyone bold enough to ask the names of those who had any part in Hasans surveillance. No embarrassing scholarly Islamic monikers are there? Is that a conclusion in the wrong direction?

BL@KBIRD on November 9, 2009 at 11:04 PM

Avoid “Invasion of the Body Snatchers“~!

“The Einstein Intersection” by Samuel R. Delany is worth a read, however.

profitsbeard on November 9, 2009 at 10:50 PM

Revelations.

Johan Klaus on November 9, 2009 at 11:08 PM

Is anyone bold enough to ask the names of those who had any part in Hasans surveillance. No embarrassing scholarly Islamic monikers are there? Is that a conclusion in the wrong direction?

BL@KBIRD on November 9, 2009 at 11:04 PM

I think this video explains everything.

profitsbeard on November 9, 2009 at 11:09 PM

Our diversity, not only in our Army, but in our country, is a strength. And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse.
- General Casey

MB4 on November 9, 2009 at 8:59 PM

Johan Klaus on November 9, 2009 at 11:04 PM

*facepalm*

Animator Girl on November 9, 2009 at 11:10 PM

Obama doesn’t want to jump to conclusions about terrorists until they’ve killed some Americans. Oops, not even then. Who’s side is Obama on? If you’re an American, not yours.

ray on November 9, 2009 at 11:13 PM

I’d like to know the name(s) of the clown(s) that broke off the investigation. The families need to be able to ask them why? Why break off an investigation that produced so many red flags? This should have been a textbook case on how to stop a Jihadi before he strike but instead ended up as a deadly example of one of Murphy’s Laws of Combat: “Even doing nothing will get you killed”

c3ichief on November 9, 2009 at 11:13 PM

They can talk about his mental condition, but we all know on some level this was a Horrorist Attack.
I think we need to study this guy. I wouldn’t want a quick execution, although he deserves it if anyone dose. It’s important we understand the psychology of these Islamic Horrorists. Major Insane is a Psychiatrist and would have valuable insight. If we get tired of normal inquire, or get all we can that way, we could open his head and probe around to find that area we could lesion, and cure Islamic Horrorism.

Ed Laskie on November 9, 2009 at 11:15 PM

It’s important we understand the psychology of these Islamic Horrorists…

Ed Laskie on November 9, 2009 at 11:15 PM

It’s not rocket science.

A combo of the krazy Koran.

And a heapin’ helpin’ of the Hadiths.

Mix thoroughly …and kill.

profitsbeard on November 9, 2009 at 11:27 PM

who is accused of shooting to death 13 people

ACCUSED? How is this “accused” its not like we don’t have hundreds of people who saw it. This is the political correct BS that is destroying us.

As for the “Didn’t seem violent” crap. Many people who are violent are violent that 1 time and thats it. I’m sure many of the 9/11 attackers seemed like nice peaceful guys, hell one of them lived above a friend and he use to make them cookies, but for that 1 moment he was violent and thats all he needed.

Lets start taking these threats as seriously as when they hall kids off to jail for playing cowboys and indians (or is it White Murderers and Native Americans now?)

Rbastid on November 9, 2009 at 11:43 PM

Our diversity, not only in our Army, but in our country, is a strength. And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse.
- General Casey

MB4 on November 9, 2009 at 8:59 PM

If I were President, General Casey would have been fired on the spot for that remark. But I’m not, and you know who is.

If Obambi doesn’t fire him, he should be impeached and removed from office. But he won’t be.

These are dark days for the USA, and getting darker.

MrLynn on November 9, 2009 at 11:46 PM

But in Hasan’s case, I’m assuming by now that he was not only psychopathic (and remains so) but that he’s likely found Islam a comfort and inspiration to rationalize his psychopathy.

In other words, he found the body of work that helped him advance his illness.

Lourdes on November 9, 2009 at 8:49 PM

Man, they are going to use that to polish the lid on the memory hole and it will be BLINDEN SHINNNNIN!

BL@KBIRD on November 9, 2009 at 11:57 PM

Our diversity, not only in our Army, but in our country, is a strength. And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse.
- General Casey

This is absolutely moronic. Diversity is just an excuse, a cover for people who obsess about whether they themselves might be bigoted or racist, and who think have a wide varfiety of ethnicities around them, like trophies, means that they’re not bigoted.

Instead of phoney baloney “diversity,” such people should opt for a good shrink.

seanrobins on November 10, 2009 at 12:13 AM

In response to Hasan’s jagoff lawyer’s comments about his client not being able to get a fair trial, I got news for ya pal. That pig will get as fair a trial as any other member of the United State’s armed forces accused of committing a criminal act. There’s no way this should fall outside the military jurisdiction and accompanying UCMJ. I guarantee the trial will be a speedy one…at least much faster than a federal trial that will get bogged down in he courts. He needs to fry and the sooner the better.

Goldy1 on November 10, 2009 at 1:22 AM

ACCUSED? How is this “accused” its not like we don’t have hundreds of people who saw it. This is the political correct BS that is destroying us.

Actually there’s not hundreds of people who saw him do it, There were more witness who said in early reports that it was three gunman not one.

borg on November 10, 2009 at 4:38 AM

someone didn’t get the memo on how to read red flags or connect the dots?

cmsinaz on November 10, 2009 at 6:38 AM

Our diversity, not only in our Army, but in our country, is a strength. And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse.
- General Casey

This is still bothering me. Can you imagine General Patton saying this?

Get the stripes off this guy, and get Hasan up before a firing squad, pronto!

MrLynn on November 10, 2009 at 8:11 AM

There is no proof than anyone is prone to violence until they commit violence. This mindset is responsible for these deaths and will be responsible for many more deaths as long as it is allowed to prevail. The obvious ignorance that resulted in this tragedy can be associated with the naivite’ that is so prominent throughout this entire administration. Accountability for these misjustments must be enforced or the result will always be the same.

volsense on November 10, 2009 at 8:29 AM

The Feds just didn’t want to jump to conclusions./

Disturb the Universe on November 10, 2009 at 8:37 AM

I think the punishment should be meted out as such.

Deploy him to Afghanistan.

Give him an AK-47.

Throw him out a plane and parachute him into the middle of a vast barren valley.

Implant a GPS tracker in his brain (that should have been done while in coma so he is not aware…).

Wait two weeks.

Send predators to GPS co-ords.

Rain down hell.

James on November 10, 2009 at 8:41 AM

Marxism hearts radical Islam.

Democrat priorities do not include fighting radical Islam.

Top priority is stealing money from working people and implementing Marxist utopia.

It’s really that simple.

darwin on November 10, 2009 at 8:44 AM

I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up with a life sentence instead of the death penalty.

He’s paralyzed, isn’t he? He’s already got his life sentence. Put him in the express line to the firing squad. Pick me.

Proud Texan on November 10, 2009 at 8:47 AM

darwin on November 10, 2009 at 8:44 AM

The idiots never stop to consider what happens when their Marxist utopia collides with the Sharia Calliphate Utopia.

Disturb the Universe on November 10, 2009 at 8:53 AM

Which analyist gave the advice and what is their background.

davod on November 10, 2009 at 9:00 AM

Somebody’s head needs to come off and bounce down the steps for everybody to see and hear and be reminded that Political Correctness is fraught with career peril.

kens on November 10, 2009 at 9:17 AM

Again, PURPLE HEARTS for those injured and killed at Ft. Hood but I know it won’t happen.

Bruce Hendrix on November 10, 2009 at 9:34 AM

No word on what was in the e-mails. Cooking tips, maybe? Still, consider this progress. All it took for the jihad angle to be considered one possible factor in the shooting is this turd sending e-mails to Al Qaeda; maybe a video of him hanging out with Osama will surface and we can go ahead and nudge it towards “possible main factor.” As for Awlaki, I wrote about him this weekend but this bit from a U.S. counterterror official quoted in a WaPo story last year bears mentioning again: “There is good reason to believe Anwar Aulaqi has been involved in very serious terrorist activities since leaving the United States, including plotting attacks against America and our allies.” If Awlaki was considered a “very serious” terrorist threat as of 2008, how can any e-mail sent to him by Hasan have not been cause for great concern? Even if the e-mails weren’t explicitly violent or threatening, the other red flags in Hasan’s file should have set off alarm bells about where this might lead. It’d be like a U.S. military officer sending telegrams to the German command during WWII. Whatever his reason is, it’s a bad reason.

Aren’t you the same guy who got upset when Boston College cops got fierce with a man breaking down the front door of a house?

Aren’t you the same guy who got upset when cops arrest a man for full frontal nudity at a window?

Aren’t you the same guy who got upset when a kid who took a knife to school had the book thrown at him?

When have you ever supported the arrest and conviction of people for the crime of leading up to something really nasty?–and it’s not that you ‘appreciate bold and aggressive deterrence, but would like an acknowledgement that a reasonable and necessary preventive scheme inadvertantly caught a good guy’–no, you are mad as hell that police are getting pre-emptive.

This is exactly the sort of attitude you have demanded from the cops– know everything, but do nothing until the perp’s ACTIONS warrant it. Not intention, not behavior pattern matching a profile, not carrying out preliminary behavior necessary and usual in felons.

Chris_Balsz on November 10, 2009 at 9:46 AM

None of the 9/11 hijackers seemed violent either.

TrickyDick on November 10, 2009 at 1:49 PM

The 9-11 hijackers didn’t seem violent, either. Remember the video tapes? Oops! I just read the previous post. Nice to know I’m not the only one.

LarryG on November 10, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Just a few more words. People need to learn that Islam was born out of violence and embraces it as its core. No resistance will be tolerated – only submission or conversion. Failure is rewarded with violence and it’s all too frequently fatal. The western world is engaged in a fatal ignorance with respect to this religion. It no more of a religion than communism. Do your homework, folks.

LarryG on November 10, 2009 at 3:46 PM

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