ABC: FBI knew Hasan tried to contact Al-Qaeda

posted at 9:30 am on November 9, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Would it normally be considered a national-security problem if a high-ranking military officer had tried to contact an enemy of the United States during wartime?  ABC News reports that the FBI knew that Major Nidal Hasan had attempted to contact al-Qaeda and its associates months before Hasan went on a shooting rampage at Fort Hood, killing 13 people.  Did the FBI tell the Army about it?  That gets rather murky:

U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News.

It is not known whether the intelligence agencies informed the Army that one of its officers was seeking to connect with suspected al Qaeda figures, the officials said.

One senior lawmaker said the CIA had, so far, refused to brief the intelligence committees on what, if any, knowledge they had about Hasan’s efforts.

However, the Army certainly had enough information to know that Hasan was a problem:

A fellow Army doctor who studied with Hasan, Val Finell, told ABC News, “We would frequently say he was a Muslim first and an American second. And that came out in just about everything he did at the University.

Finell said he and other Army doctors complained to superiors about Hasan’s statements.

“And we questioned how somebody could take an oath of office…be an officer in the military and swear allegiance to the constitution and to defend America against all enemies, foreign and domestic and have that type of conflict,” Finell told ABC News.

Meanwhile, the imam with whom Hasan associated — with his own ties to the 9/11 terrorists — has issued a statement calling Hasan a “hero,” a “man of conscience” who successfully resolved the conflict of being Muslim and a member of the American armed forces.  Anwar al-Awlaki now lives in Yemen, but he used to run mosques in Denver, San Diego, and Falls Church before beating feet after the 9/11 attacks.  ABC reports that Awlaki runs a jihadist web site, which is where he posted his support of Hasan.

Did Hasan commit his act of terror alone or under instructions from Awlaki and his AQ associates?  That’s what investigators want to know, but either way it seems that a 9/10 attitude has re-entered national-security considerations.  Anyone attempting to contact al-Qaeda should have been arrested, or at the least kept away from military bases.  Why did our counter-terrorist efforts leave Nidal Hasan in position to actually deploy into a combat theater if the FBI knew or even suspected these attempts to contact the enemy?

It sounds a lot like the law-enforcement model of counterterrorism that failed us so spectacularly from 1993 to 2001.

Update (AP): In case you missed WaPo’s story on Hasan over the weekend, note what he told a neighbor on the morning of the murders after handing her a Koran: “I’m going to do good work for God.”

Update (Ed): Verum Serum has more on al-Awliki and Hasan’s “heroism”.

Update II: Joe Gandelman asks the right question: “If American intelligence agencies missed the signs pre-911 and they missed a big hint pre-Foot Hood, exactly what are they missing now, as you read this post?”  I would also add this: “And why are they missing it?”  Because in this case, it seems as though political correctness over the feelings of Muslims has played a part in hamstringing action — and that could be the case with other potential threats, too.


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I don’t see the evidence for that.

I do absolutely wonder why the Army doesn’t have a method for evaluating these situations, whether it involves Muslims or otherwise. This is not the first shooting they have had.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:43 AM

You have evidence that the Army doesn’t have a procedure for evaluating these situations?

The Army has “shootings” just like the general population.

Nice smear of the Army. You are a slimy troll.

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 10:47 AM

Some of you honestly do strike me as advocating against all Muslims. Not everyone here, of course. But there’s a lot of posts suggesting just that.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Let’s forget all about Hasan murdering 13 Americans. Let’s focus on some posters being angry at Hot Air. After all which is more important? POLITICAL CORRECTNESS? Or a few murders?

Loxodonta on November 9, 2009 at 10:48 AM

BL@KBIRD on November 9, 2009 at 10:45 AM

PC madness.

Johan Klaus on November 9, 2009 at 10:48 AM

Alleged Fort Hood Shooter Frequented Local Strip Club

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,573052,00.html

How the MSM is going spin this: The stripper made me do it.

poxoma on November 9, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Add that to the list of red flags. The 9/11 terrorists did the same thing before crashing planes into buildings.

mizflame98 on November 9, 2009 at 10:48 AM

How the MSM is going spin this: The stripper made me do it.

poxoma on November 9, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Do you know how hard it is to get one of those girls into a burka?? Of course he was frustrated.

But he gave good tips. Awwwwww, he’s not a total monster.
/

hoosiermama on November 9, 2009 at 10:48 AM

Fox says Hasan is talking.

Noel on November 9, 2009 at 10:49 AM

As long as that applies to every president, I’m OK with that. Please, though, don’t come at me in a future discussion with “it wasn’t Bush’s fault.” Either the buck stops in the Oval Office for every occupant or it doesn’t.

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 10:45 AM

Nope – you don’t get away that easy. The circumstances were different for 9-11 – we’d never had an attack like that and didn’t realize we’re at war with radical Islam at the time. In addition – the changes Bush made did nothing but INCREASE the strength of our defenses after Clinton emasculated them. How do I know this? Why I was in the military for both Clinton and Bush.

Obama came into office and he INHERITED a nation that he knew was at war with radical Islam. What he do? He immediately did things to decrease our readiness posture – like persecuting CIA agents, ending EIT’s, forbidding the CIA to even conduct any interrogations and banning the use of the term “WAR ON TERROR”.

This belongs to Obama – not simply because he’s the president – but because he’s been an active participant in destroying this nation’s readiness and will to fight terror.

How’s that bucko?

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 10:49 AM

Hasan is awake and talking now.

mizflame98 on November 9, 2009 at 10:49 AM

maybe these guys go to strip clubs to psych themselves up to destroy our culture since they see women being free and I mean REALLY FREE and it offends them

ginaswo on November 9, 2009 at 10:49 AM

Boy, it’s like we’re right back in the 1990′s reliving all the incompetence of the Clinton administration. And we saw how that turned out. Can’t wait to see what 9/11/2017 has in store for us after 8 years of Obama and democrats like the last time.

mozalf on November 9, 2009 at 10:50 AM

You’re absolutely right. It could be an interagency communications breakdown.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Like the kind Jamie Gorelick institutionalized under Bill Clinton with her wrongheaded “firewalls” and which George Bush rectified with the Patriot Act? So were the firewalls put back? A senior officer in the US Army, over an extended period of time, made public and private statements of sympathy and support for an enemy of his country and apparently even tried to contact the figurehead of that enemy, all of which was known by our federal authorities. Yes, I guess there was a “breakdown.”

If this doesn’t demand a congressional investigation than there can be no doubt we are managed by a feckless and trifling and quite possibly even treasonous congress.

Since the Left blamed George Bush for 9/11 without any concrete evidence of dereliction, that is to say, his inteligence briefings indicated only a rising but nebulous threat to aviation security, and even though the 9/11 hijackers had insinuated themselves into America under Bill Clinton, then how is it that Obama cannot be blamed for this terrorist attack if his federal bureaucracy had direct, concrete evidence of an aggressively malcontent Muslim officer making overtures to our enemy?

rrpjr on November 9, 2009 at 10:50 AM

In his weekly address Saturday, the president declared that “we cannot fully know” Hasan’s motives… (washingtonexaminer)

I want to give a ’shout-out’ to our out-of-touch president…

TN Mom on November 9, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Even the libtards can’t believe that by Saturday Obama hadn’t been briefed on Hasan. Joe Wilson is right — Obama is a LIAR! He is a clear and present danger to the security of the United States of America.

flyfisher on November 9, 2009 at 10:50 AM

How the MSM is going spin this: The stripper made me do it.

poxoma on November 9, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Well now we have an idea where all of that 6 figure salary went.

thomasaur on November 9, 2009 at 10:51 AM

Your other comment about the “pro-life” (he really wasn’t pro-life was he) nutjob that kills an abortionist only demonstrates your wrong. The media loves to point out that he/she was a fundamentalist christian but PC dorks like Matthews insist on this story, “We’ll never know if religion influenced his actions”.

It was just meant to be a comparison. I personally am of the opinion that people often become fanatics in their religion when they spiral out of control. My point is that not all Christians or Muslims or Jews or whatever are that way, obviously.

It’s not the religion as much as the individual or what’s going on. In this case, it’s the war, of course.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:51 AM

Some of you honestly do strike me as advocating against all Muslims. Not everyone here, of course. But there’s a lot of posts suggesting just that.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:39 AM

And you are the one denying the power of political correctness and blaming these deaths on incompetence. And whose incompetence? NOT the FBI. No. The military.

So, let’s forget all about Political correctness and Hasan and the FBI. The military is responsible for those 13 murders.

See? No political correctness here.

Loxodonta on November 9, 2009 at 10:51 AM

onda

didnt GHWBush start the military base closure commission?

serisouly asking

If I can get over my feelings about GW I do not see how any GOPer can honestly be comparing Big Dawg to Obama

one loves America and free market capitalism and one does not
one knew we were under attack and one did not know

ginaswo on November 9, 2009 at 10:51 AM

PURPLE HEARTS FOR ALL THOSE WOUNDED AND KILLED IN THE FT.HOOD ATTACK, except Hasan of course.

Bruce Hendrix on November 9, 2009 at 10:51 AM

maybe these guys go to strip clubs to psych themselves up to destroy our culture since they see women being free and I mean REALLY FREE and it offends them

ginaswo on November 9, 2009 at 10:49 AM

That’s where Hasan got his Pre Traumatic Stress Disorder

nyx on November 9, 2009 at 10:52 AM

mozalf

again it is insane to blame Big Dawg

this is why there is no Reagenesque colatition, every time moderates start to vote GOP, you guys come and attack 8 yrs of Big Dawg which was BTW 8 years ago

I call BS

ginaswo on November 9, 2009 at 10:52 AM

Some of you honestly do strike me as advocating against all Muslims. Not everyone here, of course. But there’s a lot of posts suggesting just that.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:39 AM

So? I don’t care. I’m advocating profiling…every single muslim.
And if only blondes with huge boobs were killing people and they belonged to a larger ‘cult’, we’ll call it Chickenheads….I’d be all for profiling them as well.

If I were, say, a Catholic and there were Catholic terrorists killing in the name of God all over the planet, I would want every single Catholic treated the same way.
And I wouldn’t care if anyone’s feelings got hurt, even my own. Just like I don’t care that I’ve got to take my shoes off at the airport.
Check me out. I don’t care. I’m not out to kill anyone, but the person behind me might have a shoe bomb.
FIND THEM.

bridgetown on November 9, 2009 at 10:53 AM

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Good sleeper cells don’t advertise as did Hasim. CAIR et al have done a marvelous job of redirecting scrutiny(see flying inmans in the Twin
Cities). Which Muslims can you be sure aren’t jihadists? Their rank and file won’t clean their own house, so suspicion falls on all.

a capella on November 9, 2009 at 10:53 AM

Maybe Hasan is asking for strippers.

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 10:54 AM

then how is it that Obama cannot be blamed for this terrorist attack if his federal bureaucracy had direct, concrete evidence of an aggressively malcontent Muslim officer making overtures to our enemy?

rrpjr on November 9, 2009 at 10:50 AM

I can see an argument being made for blaming the Pelosi attack on the CIA. Congress was warned that this would shut down security cooperation, not only internally but also with our allies.

But, it’s not clear who knew what when yet.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:54 AM

Ann

if the Pope was telling people to kill the non believers would you say it was a war of religion?

cuz in effect that is what is happening, these IMAMS are like little Popes

ginaswo on November 9, 2009 at 10:54 AM

Hasan is awake and talking now.

mizflame98 on November 9, 2009 at 10:49 AM

Yeah isn’t that great news? Obama’s FBI interrogation task force is on it’s way to Texas as we speak armed with hot chocolate and herbal tea …

They’ll have this guy giving us all the secrets in no time!!

OBAMA – THE HUMAN EQUIVALENT OF THE FORD PINTO.

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 10:54 AM

How about this?
Rosa DeLauro
Phone: 202-225-3661
Fax: 202-225-4890

Wouldn’t it be interesting to call this Pro-abortion Congresswoman and ask her why she voted for HR 3269 when it goes against pro-choice ideology. Talk about selling women down the river.

bloggless on November 9, 2009 at 10:54 AM

[mizflame98 on November 9, 2009 at 10:34 AM]

It’s possible. I haven’t yet heard of any claims from his patients as to whether he included some proselytizing of some kind along with his treatment, and I’ll guess he was smart enough not to instigate complaints in that way.

But, considering his rather blatant efforts to proselytize, as well as make known his views on the US wars in A and I elsewhere (in a decidedly fundamentally Islamic way), it’s more likely he got some blatant push back in regards to it. That and the fact that people reported him for some of it, I’d think these two activities are the source of his “harassment”.

Dusty on November 9, 2009 at 10:54 AM

not all of them obvisouly

the ones like the idiot in Queens in the NYPost today

ginaswo on November 9, 2009 at 10:54 AM

How much did DHS Napolitano know about Hasan? Wouldn’t she see FBI/CIA reports on this? Or was she so focused on vets being recruited by rightwing terrorists groups that when this came across her desk she thought that it shouldn’t be pursued due to it’s anti-muslim angle? She is more worried Muslims being targeted in the military than she is that there might be more Muslims in the military who are planning to do the same thing.

What did she know and when did she know it?

journeyintothewhirlwind on November 9, 2009 at 10:54 AM

As long as that applies to every president, I’m OK with that. Please, though, don’t come at me in a future discussion with “it wasn’t Bush’s fault.” Either the buck stops in the Oval Office for every occupant or it doesn’t.

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 10:45 AM

Let’s not talk about the murder of 13 innocent Americans and how to prevent it in the future.

Instead, let’s talk about Bush. Because liberals care peoples’ lives more than politics.

See? Liberal logic.

Loxodonta on November 9, 2009 at 10:54 AM

Also, who thought it would be a good idea to have a guy that resembles the enemy treat guys that have PTSD?

mizflame98 on November 9, 2009 at 10:34 AM

Good ol PC at work. Check out the VA hospitals.May surprise you

flyoverboy on November 9, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Gawd I have to fight AnninCA AND the GOPers attakcing Big Dawg

this is ridiculous

STOP THE CDS!!

Focus on what is happening NOW

ginaswo on November 9, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Loxodonta

I want to focus on now, but some of the GOPers here are blaming BILL CLINTON!

ginaswo on November 9, 2009 at 10:55 AM

PURPLE HEARTS FOR ALL THOSE WOUNDED AND KILLED IN THE FT.HOOD ATTACK, except Hasan of course.

Bruce Hendrix on November 9, 2009 at 10:51 AM

Maybe Hassan can get a Nobel Peace Prize? I’d hate to leave him out and, in fact, unlike Obama – he did achieve his mission.

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 10:55 AM

From Atlas Shrugged:

Here is the card that major Muslim Nidal Hasan gave to the infidels along with a quran before meeting his 72 raisins.

Could this lowlife jihadi be any more devout? He mosqued every day. Hated America, hated the troops, proselytized his co-workers, planned his jihad and completed his mission. His head was shaved. What else was shaved? If his body was shaved like his head, then the military guys and law enforcement know and have known that this was jihad, and they are scamming us now.

Now look at the card. Notice the SoA on the card? Soldiers of Allah. Followed by SWT, an abbreviation that usually follows the word Allah. (hat tip Robert)

When writing the name of God (Allah), Muslims often follow it with the abbreviation “SWT.” These letters stand for the Arabic words “Subhanahu Wa Ta’ala,” or “Glory to Him, the Exalted.” Muslims use these or similar words to glorify God when mentioning His name.

Definition: When writing the name of God (Allah), Muslims often follow it with the abbreviation “SWT.” These letters stand for the Arabic words “Subhanahu Wa Ta’ala,” or “Glory to Him, the Exalted.” Muslims use these or similar words to glorify God when mentioning His name.
Pronunciation: sub-han’-a-hoo wa ta a la
Also Known As: Subhanahu Wa Ta’ala
Alternate Spellings: subhana wa ta’ala; subhanna wa ta’ala
Examples:
Muslims believe that Allah SWT created the universe.

Nalea on November 9, 2009 at 10:56 AM

Hey, I’m a Christian first and an American second. Difference is, my religion requires me to support my country, pray for its leadership and be a good citizen.

tgharris on November 9, 2009 at 10:56 AM

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:54 AM

Somebody knew something 6 months ago and did nothing about it. Now I want to know who knew, what was being done about it, why nothing was done, if the Army didn’t know this why? Your dealing with the military, it’s totally different than the civilian world. The reason why this guy wasn’t dealt with was because he was a muslim.

Brat4life on November 9, 2009 at 10:56 AM

journeyintothewhirlwind on November 9, 2009 at 10:54 AM

EXCELLENT question
THAT is where it needs to go

WHO in the admin knew about this and took NO STEPS to protect our troops?

AND were they taking pics at the DC Housecall of inocent Americans INSTEAD of pursuing this Hasan character?

ginaswo on November 9, 2009 at 10:56 AM

Add that to the list of red flags. The 9/11 terrorists did the same thing before crashing planes into buildings.

mizflame98 on November 9, 2009 at 10:48 AM

There is really something uncivil about the notion that the appropriate amount of murder can wash away one’s indiscretions.

Count to 10 on November 9, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Here are the questions for a congressional committee:
1. Did “intelligence agencies” brief the President?
2. When?
3. Did Obama know of, or approve, the operation to track Hasan?
4. Did Obama know about Hasan when he told us “let’s not jump to conclusions”?

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 10:58 AM

You’re absolutely right. It could be an interagency communications breakdown.

[AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:24 AM]

And it could be a conscious effort by top level officials to put a lid on it. I mention this only because I don’t consider that a communication breakdown, but more akin maladministration.

Dusty on November 9, 2009 at 10:58 AM

Evidence,please.

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 10:23 AM

This is the bush!t that needs to be done away with. “Evidence”, beyond a reasonable doubt, guilty until proven innocent pertain to LE issues. War on the other hand is a military issue where-upon if the enemy is dicsovered he is granted Geneva Convention protections and no more. Provided he is in uniform clearly defining him as combatant, if discovered whine in civies, or worse masquerading in disguise in his opponents uniform, he si treated as either a spy or a traitor, where-upon a finding by military tribunal of guilt he is offered a cigarette, a blind fold, and 5 rapidly delivered copper-jacketed, stell ball 5.56 gifts courtesy of Uncle Sam.

Case closed!

Archimedes on November 9, 2009 at 10:59 AM

Who the hell is paying her salary and who the hell is she working so hard to protect???? This is beyond the pale. We have a terrorist attack in Texas and she is telling people in the UAE that she’s doing everything she can to keep American Muslims safe???? WTF WTF WTF!!!!!!!!

“The U.S. Homeland Security secretary says she is working to prevent a possible wave of anti-Muslim sentiment after the shootings at Fort Hood in Texas.

Janet Napolitano says her agency is working with groups across the United States to try to deflect any backlash against American Muslims following Thursday’s rampage by Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, a Muslim who reportedly expressed growing dismay over the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The shootings left 13 people dead and 29 wounded.

Napolitano was in the United Arab Emirates on Sunday for talks with security officials and a meeting with women university students in Abu Dhabi”

marge on November 9, 2009 at 10:59 AM

Come on guys! Let’s not jump to any conclusions! Listen to Obama! Mmm mmm mmm.

OxyCon on November 9, 2009 at 10:59 AM

Sorry that link is broken..Just go to Atlas Shrugs. Pam Geller has some interesting info.

Nalea on November 9, 2009 at 10:59 AM

Nope – you don’t get away that easy. The circumstances were different for 9-11 – we’d never had an attack like that and didn’t realize we’re at war with radical Islam at the time. In addition – the changes Bush made did nothing but INCREASE the strength of our defenses after Clinton emasculated them. How do I know this? Why I was in the military for both Clinton and Bush.

Obama came into office and he INHERITED a nation that he knew was at war with radical Islam. What he do? He immediately did things to decrease our readiness posture – like persecuting CIA agents, ending EIT’s, forbidding the CIA to even conduct any interrogations and banning the use of the term “WAR ON TERROR”.

This belongs to Obama – not simply because he’s the president – but because he’s been an active participant in destroying this nation’s readiness and will to fight terror.

How’s that bucko?

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 10:49 AM

I doubt you’re even convincing yourself. Almost nothing of what you wrote was true. And, bottom line, either the President is responsible — whichever president — or he’s not.

Bush had more than adequate warning of a major plot at extremely high levels. He’s hardly blameless.

And Obama has waged war on terror at least as effectively as Bush — you may recall a couple of major busts in the last month or so, plus increasing cooperation from Pakistan and a demonstrated willingness to pursue terrorists around the world.

Your derangement is showing.

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Maybe Hassan can get a Nobel Peace Prize? I’d hate to leave him out and, in fact, unlike Obama – he did achieve his mission.

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 10:55 AM

I’m going to guess he failed in the one part that was most important to him: dying.

Count to 10 on November 9, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Anyone notice this guy had a minor conehead thing going on? Maybe he was an illegal alien from France.

Jeff from WI on November 9, 2009 at 11:00 AM

So, let’s forget all about Political correctness and Hasan and the FBI. The military is responsible for those 13 murders.

See? No political correctness here.

Loxodonta on November 9, 2009 at 10:51 AM

I haven’t yet figured out exactly who knew what when. The writings on the internet? Were they verified by the FBI conclusively?

What I see is that the Army had PLENTY of verified information and, for some reason, chose to counsel and go through performance review procedures rather than recognize the obvious. This guy was a ticking timebomb.

What’s scary to me is that if they think it’s normal to join a radical fundamentalist group, discuss jihadist ideology in the Army, go public even in lectures….and that’s not serious?

Then they are truly incompetent. That is serious. That was a clear warning sign. And they have to answer for this stupidity.

You guys may all be quite right. They may even admit that their own concern over treating Muslims fairly led to ignoring danger signs.

I don’t know. They aren’t really talking yet.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 11:00 AM

And it could be a conscious effort by top level officials to put a lid on it. I mention this only because I don’t consider that a communication breakdown, but more akin maladministration.

Dusty on November 9, 2009 at 10:58 AM

Right now, that’s exactly the conclusion I’m jumping to. *haha

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 11:01 AM

Fox is reporting that Hasan is awake and talking.

baldilocks on November 9, 2009 at 11:01 AM

journeyintothewhirlwind on November 9, 2009 at 10:54 AM

EXCELLENT question
THAT is where it needs to go

WHO in the admin knew about this and took NO STEPS to protect our troops?

AND were they taking pics at the DC Housecall of inocent Americans INSTEAD of pursuing this Hasan character?

ginaswo on November 9, 2009 at 10:56 AM

The likely “who” that would been informed is Sec. of the Army. The guy who was just replaced by the race in NY-23rd, his name escapes me.

Archimedes on November 9, 2009 at 11:02 AM

I haven’t yet figured out exactly who knew what when. The writings on the internet? Were they verified by the FBI conclusively?

What I see is that the Army had PLENTY of verified information and, for some reason, chose to counsel and go through performance review procedures rather than recognize the obvious. This guy was a ticking timebomb
AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 11:00 AM

You don’t just get fired from the military. No matter what you do they just can’t say your out. You have to go through the process and that sometimes takes years.

Wanna know something Hasan is still getting paid by the Army until he is discharged. He still gets a paycheck.

Brat4life on November 9, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Hasan is talking.

That’s bad news for Eric Holder, who will be forced to recuse himself from representing Mr. Hasan like his law firm represents 18 other detainees.

Noel on November 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Your derangement is showing.

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 11:00 AM

And your “spin” is showing. You cannot equate Bush’s situation on 9-11 – when the nation WAS NOT at war – to today … when the nation IS at war.

None of us had a clue that 9-11 could happen. But since then – we’ve been extremely aware that it could happen again. And Bush kept this nation safe for 8 years and turned over to Obama a nation on a WAR FOOTING. All Obama had to do was KEEP IT THERE.

But he didn’t do that. He went after CIA agents, he banned the use of the term “WAR ON TERROR” … he went on apology tours to the Muslim world which made us look weak and invited attacks.

And we got them.

Thank you very much Mr. Obama.

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 11:05 AM

How the MSM is going spin this: The stripper made me do it.

poxoma on November 9, 2009 at 10:43 AM

The stripper thing is actualy a pretty well known phenomenon in the MidEast…. you see, Jihadists get a free ride to paradise, so no matter what they do on Earth, they get a pass….

so, there are lots of reports of Jihadists hanging out with strippers before hand.

Romeo13 on November 9, 2009 at 11:06 AM

The Allahu Akbar incident a few months ago, in Little Rock, also featured a Muslim perp who was supposedly being tracked by the feds. That incident faded away before we ever got to the bottom of it.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the same pc mental disease within the government that enabled the Ft. Hood incident was also responsible for enabling the Little Rock incident. Lieberman should take a look at that one in conjunction with the Ft. Hood massacre investigation.

Buddahpundit on November 9, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Hasan is talking.

That’s bad news for Eric Holder, who will be forced to recuse himself from representing Mr. Hasan like his law firm represents 18 other detainees.

Noel on November 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Maybe Hassan can retroactively join the Black Panthers so his actions won’t be prosecuted?

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Was Hasan’s body shaved? Let’s not jump to conclusions?

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 11:07 AM

What the hell is wrong with those damn strippers that they would go near there pigs?

bloggless on November 9, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Epic fail. If authorities trying to be PC paved the way for this nutjob (seems likely), a thorough overhaul of policy is in order. Won’t happen in this administration, though.

All the things we conservatives have been barking about for decades are coming to pass: PC think destroying critical thinking, liberalism descending into socialism, etc.

We must dominate the 2010 elections so that, “this nation of the people, by the people, and for the people, shall not perish from this earth.”

pugwriter on November 9, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Januray 21, 2013. PC will RIP.

jbh45 on November 9, 2009 at 11:08 AM

You don’t just get fired from the military. No matter what you do they just can’t say your out. You have to go through the process and that sometimes takes years.

Wanna know something Hasan is still getting paid by the Army until he is discharged. He still gets a paycheck.

Brat4life on November 9, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Wow….

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 11:09 AM

None of us had a clue that 9-11 could happen.

Except for, you know, President Bush, who got that “Bin Laden Determined to Strike U.S.” memo.

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 11:09 AM

The way I see it … not only is the GOP going to be able to run on an anti-socialist platform (thank you very much Democrats) …

But we’ll also have the National Defense issue firmly sewn up for our candidates.

Obama and the Democrats can’t keep us safe any more.

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Hasan is talking.

OK, talk about “It’s on.”

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM

What the hell is wrong with those damn strippers that they would go near there pigs?

bloggless on November 9, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Wouldn’t they run afoul of anti-discrimination laws if they didn’t?

Count to 10 on November 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Maybe Hassan can retroactively join the Black Panthers so his actions won’t be prosecuted?

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Probably already a member in good standing. Smoke screen went up pretty fast didn’t it?

flyoverboy on November 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM

“If American intelligence agencies missed the signs pre-911 and they missed a big hint pre-Foot Hood, exactly what are they missing now, as you read this post?” I would also add this: “And why are they missing it?”

Because President Obama and the rest of his administration think the real enemies are FOX News, Rush Limbaugh and have pretty much been focused on that instead of our real enemies,Islamic radicals.



Looks like Cheney was right:

And he(Dick Cheney) asserted that President Obama will either backtrack on his stated intentions to end those policies or put the country at risk in ways more severe than most Americans — and, he charged, many members of Obama’s own team — understand.

“When we get people who are more concerned about reading the rights to an Al Qaeda terrorist than they are with protecting the United States against people who are absolutely committed to do anything they can to kill Americans, then I worry,” Cheney said.

Protecting the country’s security is “a tough, mean, dirty, nasty business,” he said. “These are evil people. And we’re not going to win this fight by turning the other cheek.”

Liberals are going to get a lot of people killed with their 9/10 mentality.

Baxter Greene on November 9, 2009 at 11:11 AM

Un-freakin-believable! Her is the link to Pam’s bit on Hasan’s Biz (SoA/SWT) card..

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/

Archimedes on November 9, 2009 at 11:11 AM

The job of the “Flying Imams” is nearly complete. Make authorities so desensitized to suspicious activities by the Religion Of Peace ™ that this stuff can happen.

kurtzz3 on November 9, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Obama’s got his 3 am call at 1:30 pm. Still doesn’t matter. Hillary was right…he failed.

csdeven on November 9, 2009 at 11:14 AM

Will Muslims be angry when Hasan is hanged?

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 11:14 AM

Under “W”, we went over 7 years without a terrorist attack on our soil.

“0″ couldn’t get us past 12 months.

kurtzz3 on November 9, 2009 at 11:14 AM

I don’t know. They aren’t really talking yet.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 11:00 AM

OK. There are two agencies with responsibility. The Army seems to have had knowledge for years, yet somehow, even with poor performance reviews, Hasan was promoted and placed in sensitive positions. What possible justification is there for such behavior?

I don’t know, because they aren’t talking. But jsut think about it for a moment. What on earth could cause any person with poor performance reviews to get promoted? Was it due to bribery, favoritism, bias, incompetence, or fear of reprisal?

Somehow, the FBI sat for six months on information that a Muslim officer in the Army was making jihad threats against the United States. Why was no formal investigation opened? Why was no search warrant secured? Was it due to bribery, favoritism, bias, incompetence, or fear of reprisal?

I want Congressional hearings where those questions can be asked to everyone who worked with, for and above Hasan and those investigating him in the Army and the FBI, under oath. I want the answers. I want to know the cause.

I don’t want talk about Bush, Clinton or damning all Muslims. I want to make sure this never happens again in the US.

I;d also like a certain person to visit the scene of the war crime and visit the wounded and the families of the dead.

Guess who.

Don’t jump to any conclusions!

Loxodonta on November 9, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Except for, you know, President Bush, who got that “Bin Laden Determined to Strike U.S.” memo.

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Now your derangement is showing.

Do you have a hole in your head? How many people out there do you think the CIA has said are determined to attack the U.S. ??? Most all of them fail or never try.

Bush could not predict that OBL would get his hands on three airliners and do what they did.

But the thing you keep avoiding is this – even if Bush were responsible for 9-11 – he certainly learned his lesson and kept us safe from then on out.

Your boy refused to learn the lesson – took us OFF a war footing in the War on Terror – in fact, BANNED the very term WAR ON TERROR. He persecuted CIA agents (still doing that); he banned EIT’s; banned the CIA from even performing interrogations of terror suspects; made us look weak with his apology tours which only emboldened radical islam.

This is is HIS attack.

Ten months – that’s all the dude could keep us safe.

And you want to address the “digital” nuance of who was president during 9-11.

Let me ask you this – who’s responsible for the NEXT attack??

And it WILL come.

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 11:15 AM

I’ll bet this dirtbag goes the way of the Black Panthers and is never tried.

ORconservative on November 9, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Some of you honestly do strike me as advocating against all Muslims. Not everyone here, of course. But there’s a lot of posts suggesting just that.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Islam has proven itself to have violent factions. The methodology, of course, is for the authorities to start intelligence operations against radical mosques and Imams. Sadly, morons like you will start bleating that Islam is a religion of peace and there is no such thing as a radical Islamic faction in this nation. Traitors like you will thwart any efforts at curbing radical Islam. Then you’ll blame GWB for the next domestic terrorist attack. I honestly am sickened by you morons who refuse to let the facts get in the way of your stupidity.

highhopes on November 9, 2009 at 11:16 AM

Am I mistaken, or is our Gov’t in the interests of being PC which is no-where in the constitution, is in breach of their sworn duties, which is.

This is not just the Obama administration either, going back to the at least tha Clinton admin. all the way through toll now, those that have pursued being PC at the dereliction of their sworn duties need to be stripped of their titles and prosecuted post haste.

Archimedes on November 9, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Will Muslims be angry when Hasan is hanged?

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 11:14 AM

LOL … he won’t be hanged!

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Somehow, the FBI sat for six months on information that a Muslim officer in the Army was making jihad threats against the United States. Why was no formal investigation opened? Why was no search warrant secured? Was it due to bribery, favoritism, bias, incompetence, or fear of reprisal?

Could be any or all of the above… Also, I might add another possibility: perhaps they were looking to use this moron as an asset…

max1 on November 9, 2009 at 11:17 AM

I’ll bet this dirtbag goes the way of the Black Panthers and is never tried.

ORconservative on November 9, 2009 at 11:15 AM

I’m hoping that he will suddenly and mysteriously die of complications from his wounds. Living and going on trial will make this bastard a martyr within the American-Muslim community and a cause for AnninCA and all the rest of the wacked out traitors of the left who refuse to see Islam in all its forms.

highhopes on November 9, 2009 at 11:18 AM

Will Muslims be angry when Hasan is hanged?

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 11:14 AM

I think most military executions are by lethal injection.

Count to 10 on November 9, 2009 at 11:19 AM

I just hope Obama is not waterboarding the poor man. After all, he is now disabled.

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 11:19 AM

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 11:15 AM

So Bush, who got specific warnings about a potential attack by a known terrorist is off the hook, but Obama, who almost undoubtedly was never briefed on this one guy and who just broke up a major conspiracy, is guilty?

You have the reasponing skills of a sixth fourth-grader.

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 11:19 AM

Un-freakin-believable! Her is the link to Pam’s bit on Hasan’s Biz (SoA/SWT) card..

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/

Archimedes on November 9, 2009 at 11:11 AM

This is too much. He was handin out cards and laughing in their faces at the same time.I hope my Marine Corps isn’t in this sad of shape.PC, affirmative action, in your face.

flyoverboy on November 9, 2009 at 11:19 AM

I don’t know, because they aren’t talking. But jsut think about it for a moment. What on earth could cause any person with poor performance reviews to get promoted? Was it due to bribery, favoritism, bias, incompetence, or fear of reprisal?

I was told by someone in the military that doctors are automatically given the promotion to major. It’s part of the system.

That’s my point, too, Lox. Something is way amiss systematically. Perhaps it’s PC, perhaps it’s just lazy decisionmaking. Whatever it is, I agree completely that it needs to be addressed forthrightly.

This really should never have happened.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 11:20 AM

max1 on November 9, 2009 at 11:17 AM

So, I think there is enough evidence out there that it wouldn’t be “jumping to conclusions” for the DOJ to become a little more interested in this than they have been to date. Also waiting for the filthy lying coward in the White House to come out and give a pro-Islam speech about not painting all Muslims as terrorists and radicals just because Hasan was both.

highhopes on November 9, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Sadly, morons like you will start bleating that Islam is a religion of peace and there is no such thing as a radical Islamic faction in this nation.

Well, your post humbles me. LOL*

I’ve said quite the opposite, in fact. Obviously, you aren’t reading my posts.

:)

BTW, that’s OK by me. It’s just a reminder that I’m not actually in discussion here.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 11:22 AM

Except for, you know, President Bush, who got that “Bin Laden Determined to Strike U.S.” memo.

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Apparently Bleeds here is still doing her fact checking at the huffington post.

The 9/11 commission found that the memo had no actionable intelligence(most of the intel in it was also given to Clinton who did the same thing Bush did,notify the proper authorities to increase security) and stated no specific facts to work from.

This may be news to you but our government was well aware al-qaeda was trying to attack America and it’s interest.

Intelligence agencies testified that they receive thousands of potential threats a week.

So super genius Bleeds Blue would shut down our transportation system and anything else just because we received threats against them.

But this is pretty hilarious coming from liberals who cry about water being poured over a terrorist face or keeping them up to late.

Coming from liberals who are more concerned with reading a terrorist his rights and making sure he is not getting to cold in his cell then getting important intel to save lives.

Coming from liberals who think checking people’s handbags before getting on planes and subways is a civil rights violation.

Bleeds may not be aware but the liberals are in charge now and all the bragging about “smart power” is blowing up in their faces.
Whining about Bush is not going to change the fact democrats don’t have a clue what they are doing right now.

Baxter Greene on November 9, 2009 at 11:23 AM

Questions for Obama:
1. Will you perform enhanced interrogations on Hasan to determine if any more attacks are planned?
2. Will you ask for the death penalty?
3. Will Hasan be housed at Gitmo? Or a stateside prison?

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 11:23 AM

I just hope Obama is not waterboarding the poor man. After all, he is now disabled.

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 11:19 AM

I’m sure the filthy lying coward’s people will help Hasan fill out the paperwork so that he can get disability through the VA. After all, those gunshots were inflicted while he was working for the Army.

highhopes on November 9, 2009 at 11:23 AM

So Bush, who got specific warnings about a potential attack by a known terrorist is off the hook, but Obama, who almost undoubtedly was never briefed on this one guy and who just broke up a major conspiracy, is guilty?

You have the reasponing skills of a sixth fourth-grader.

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 11:19 AM

He got no specific warnings Libtard. Show me the memo that said “This guy is hijacking this plane at this time and he’s flying it into this building”.

It doesn’t exist. You try to lend credibility to your facts with words like “specific” … but there were no specifics – and there WAS a lot of useless noise.

But regardless of my fourth grade response skills – you’re still not honest enough to answer for the FACT that Bush kept us safe for 8 years after that and Obama lasted only ten months.

That’s a fact dude.

Now go ahead and personally insult me again because you find the facts hard for you to argue with. :D

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Maybe Hasan is asking for strippers.

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 10:54 AM

72 strippers in Heaven miss him as well.

nyx on November 9, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Archimedes on November 9, 2009 at 11:11 AM

Does anyone know if those abbreviations have different medical terminology associated with them? Wouldn’t be the first time that law enforcement looked over words/abbreviations because to them it was benign but to the criminal/terrorist it held a different meaning.

journeyintothewhirlwind on November 9, 2009 at 11:24 AM

You have the reasponing skills of a sixth fourth-grader.

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 11:19 AM

It is reasoning like yours that got and is keeping my country in this sorry shape. You have your apologists skills mixed up with your reasoning skills.

flyoverboy on November 9, 2009 at 11:25 AM

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