ABC: FBI knew Hasan tried to contact Al-Qaeda

posted at 9:30 am on November 9, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Would it normally be considered a national-security problem if a high-ranking military officer had tried to contact an enemy of the United States during wartime?  ABC News reports that the FBI knew that Major Nidal Hasan had attempted to contact al-Qaeda and its associates months before Hasan went on a shooting rampage at Fort Hood, killing 13 people.  Did the FBI tell the Army about it?  That gets rather murky:

U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News.

It is not known whether the intelligence agencies informed the Army that one of its officers was seeking to connect with suspected al Qaeda figures, the officials said.

One senior lawmaker said the CIA had, so far, refused to brief the intelligence committees on what, if any, knowledge they had about Hasan’s efforts.

However, the Army certainly had enough information to know that Hasan was a problem:

A fellow Army doctor who studied with Hasan, Val Finell, told ABC News, “We would frequently say he was a Muslim first and an American second. And that came out in just about everything he did at the University.

Finell said he and other Army doctors complained to superiors about Hasan’s statements.

“And we questioned how somebody could take an oath of office…be an officer in the military and swear allegiance to the constitution and to defend America against all enemies, foreign and domestic and have that type of conflict,” Finell told ABC News.

Meanwhile, the imam with whom Hasan associated — with his own ties to the 9/11 terrorists — has issued a statement calling Hasan a “hero,” a “man of conscience” who successfully resolved the conflict of being Muslim and a member of the American armed forces.  Anwar al-Awlaki now lives in Yemen, but he used to run mosques in Denver, San Diego, and Falls Church before beating feet after the 9/11 attacks.  ABC reports that Awlaki runs a jihadist web site, which is where he posted his support of Hasan.

Did Hasan commit his act of terror alone or under instructions from Awlaki and his AQ associates?  That’s what investigators want to know, but either way it seems that a 9/10 attitude has re-entered national-security considerations.  Anyone attempting to contact al-Qaeda should have been arrested, or at the least kept away from military bases.  Why did our counter-terrorist efforts leave Nidal Hasan in position to actually deploy into a combat theater if the FBI knew or even suspected these attempts to contact the enemy?

It sounds a lot like the law-enforcement model of counterterrorism that failed us so spectacularly from 1993 to 2001.

Update (AP): In case you missed WaPo’s story on Hasan over the weekend, note what he told a neighbor on the morning of the murders after handing her a Koran: “I’m going to do good work for God.”

Update (Ed): Verum Serum has more on al-Awliki and Hasan’s “heroism”.

Update II: Joe Gandelman asks the right question: “If American intelligence agencies missed the signs pre-911 and they missed a big hint pre-Foot Hood, exactly what are they missing now, as you read this post?”  I would also add this: “And why are they missing it?”  Because in this case, it seems as though political correctness over the feelings of Muslims has played a part in hamstringing action — and that could be the case with other potential threats, too.


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There could be 1 or 2 or 3 or 10 who contact Al Qaeda. If there is one, that’s too many. I doubt any relgion other than Muslims are contacting Al Qaeda. . . so that narrows down the manhunt to Muslims by default.

ThackerAgency on November 9, 2009 at 10:09 AM

That makes too much sense. Unfortunately it’s unlikely to be implemented.

shick on November 9, 2009 at 10:12 AM

I meant how the justice dept. treats the CIA not FBI. Sends a chill through all law enforcement out of fear they will “behave stupidly.”

petunia on November 9, 2009 at 10:13 AM

Newsweek: But Hasan was only contacting the benign liberal wing of Al-Qaeda in an effort to invect ‘HopeAndChange.

Amadeus on November 9, 2009 at 10:13 AM

CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS NOW!

Health Care Reform is less important an issue than National Security.

A Muslim terrorist within our own military, not stopped by the FBI, is more dangerous to the country than dozen million people who can only get emergency room health coverage.

An act of treason by an Islamic jihadist and the mass murder of our own troops on our own soil in one of our own bases takes precedence over a government take-over of 1/6th of our economy.

CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS NOW!

What did Obama know and when did Obama know it?

profitsbeard on November 9, 2009 at 10:13 AM

So Muslims get a warning, but our soldiers don’t. I get it. Our illustrious leaders don’t like the military very much.

bloggless on November 9, 2009 at 10:13 AM

Have you ever worked in a place where Political Correctness was strictly enforced?

Not “enforced.” I’ve certainly worked where diversity was considered a very good strategy. People were given training to try to sort out between their own cultural bigotry and what was, in fact, performance issues.

The reason I don’t get the PC drum beat here is that the army did give him a poor performance review. They weren’t afraid to do that.

The FBI not acting is a puzzle to me so far, particularly in light of this tidbit that he was actually in contact and they knew. But I’ve not seen evidence that the FBI shies away from pursuing others doing the same.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:13 AM

I am at a loss to understand all this PC tiptoeing going on by almost every level. Starting back with the hostages held in Iran, we have been “hit” time and time agains by radical Muslims and I have yet to hear even an inkling of wholesale retribution being done by American citizens. I am past insulted when the government will let people die so as not to hurt any Muslim feelings. More than my feelings are hurt.

Cindy Munford on November 9, 2009 at 10:13 AM

Obama must have approved any operation to track this Al Qaeda terrorist and not have him arrested.
faraway on November 9, 2009 at 9:59 AM

I think you are a little faraway on this one. What Obama probably did do was instruct all investigative agencies to essentially not follow up on any leads that would not withstand evidentiary scrutiny in a civilian criminal court.

eeyore on November 9, 2009 at 10:13 AM

This whole administration is so insulting to our intelligence.

hoosiermama on November 9, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Period

rebuzz on November 9, 2009 at 10:13 AM

bloggless on November 9, 2009 at 10:09 AM
hoosiermama on November 9, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Ooops. GMTA.

hoosiermama on November 9, 2009 at 10:14 AM

This whole administration is so insulting to our intelligence.

hoosiermama on November 9, 2009 at 10:12 AM

This whole administration is allergic to common sense.

nyx on November 9, 2009 at 10:14 AM

Why is Obama trying to cover up his involvement in this?

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 10:14 AM

ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates — The U.S. Homeland Security secretary says she is working to prevent a possible wave of anti-Muslim sentiment after the shootings at Fort Hood in Texas.

Janet Napolitano says her agency is working with groups across the United States to try to deflect any backlash against American Muslims following Thursday’s rampage by Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, a Muslim who reportedly expressed growing dismay over the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The shootings left 13 people dead and 29 wounded.

Napolitano was in the United Arab Emirates on Sunday for talks with security officials and a meeting with women university students in Abu Dhabi

bloggless on November 9, 2009 at 10:09 AM

Not a good record for anyone named Janet on any issues related to terrorism. This is worse than burning and killing innocent women and children. Te panty waisters
( both Sexes ) can not take care of this problem. Re-draft Dick Chaney and watch and see how results are accomplished.

bluegrass on November 9, 2009 at 10:14 AM

Call Lieberman’s office and demand a full investigation. What did they know and when did they know it? Also, what are they doing to protect our troops here and abroad?
(202) 224-4041 Voice
(202) 224-9750 Fax

bloggless on November 9, 2009 at 10:15 AM

Janet Napolitano was too busy fighting Sherrif Joe…

TN Mom on November 9, 2009 at 10:15 AM

I’m thinking that when Big Lesbo warned us that servicepeople were potential domestic terrorists, Hasan is NOT what she had in mind.

mcassill on November 9, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Not all Muslims are connected to these radical fundamentalist groups. I may not know which is which, but the NSA sure does.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:01 AM

No, they don’t. Sleeper cells doen’t advertise the way Hasim did. The fact is, no one can be assured any Muslim is not a sleeper. I realize that can lead to paranoic witch hunts, but, that suspicion is the price they pay for not rooting out these sonsofbitches themselves. Organizations like CAIR make a living preventing this from happening.

a capella on November 9, 2009 at 10:16 AM

I am past insulted when the government will let people die so as not to hurt any Muslim feelings. More than my feelings are hurt.

Cindy Munford on November 9, 2009 at 10:13 AM

More will die, sadly . . . and we will still be hated by Islam!

rebuzz on November 9, 2009 at 10:16 AM

He wasn’t trying to contact Al Qaeda. He was just making a prank call. He asked for Al Qaholic.

LibTired on November 9, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Why is Obama trying to cover up his involvement in this?

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 10:14 AM

- –
Because therein the problem lies, you’ll need to pull your head out of your ass to understand.

bluegrass on November 9, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Did Hasan commit his act of terror alone or under instructions from Awlaki and his AQ associates? That’s what investigators want to know, but either way it seems that a 9/10 attitude has re-entered national-security considerations. Anyone attempting to contact al-Qaeda should have been arrested, or at the least kept away from military bases. Why did our counter-terrorist efforts leave Nidal Hasan in position to actually deploy into a combat theater if the FBI knew or even suspected these attempts to contact the enemy?

It sounds a lot like the law-enforcement model of counterterrorism that failed us so spectacularly from 1993 to 2001.

Ed, please be a man and explicitly blame Obama for this. Actually, I know you won’t, because you can’t. You have no proof that the FBI is acting differently under Obama than they did under Bush.

It’s funny, you guys are quick to praise the FBI for busting cells under Bush and under Obama, but one time they fail, you start up to old “law enforcement” angle of fighting terrorism meme.

Show proof that something Obama did influenced the FBI in a way that would be different than how they acted under Bush, of STFU.

Tom_Shipley on November 9, 2009 at 10:18 AM

MobileVideoEngineer on November 9, 2009 at 10:05 AM

There is no column.
Only a dimwit would indulge those imbeciles.

Take away from that what you will.

Abby Adams on November 9, 2009 at 10:18 AM

I’ll be traveling tomorrow and will most likely miss the memorial service. However, I am going to make sure I keep them in my prayers.

Please Barry Hussein Obama, do not give a “shout out” at the memorial service. That would be inappropriate. As would anything other than acknowledging the bravery, dedication, and sacrifice of these young men and women. Make sure to communicate to the families our nation’s sympathy, thankfulness, and deep sorrow.

Maybe someone can get B. Hussein Obama a copy of “Acting Like the President for Dummies” – ahead of his speech, so he can start acting the part. And please make sure the teleprompter IS working; now is not the time to demonstrate those great oratory skills.

NumberTwo on November 9, 2009 at 10:18 AM

It would be wrong to paint them with the same brush. And some here have already expressed just such a tendency.

It is the PC-types like you doing the painting. As long as the left allows radicals to go unchallenged, they will continue to hide among the rest. I can’t imagine that those who practice peaceful islam appreciate having the nutjobs lumped in with the rest of the muslims.

Laura in Maryland on November 9, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Show proof that something Obama did influenced the FBI in a way that would be different than how they acted under Bush, of STFU.

Tom_Shipley on November 9, 2009 at 10:18 AM

13 people are dead.

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Ed, where does the ABC report say, the FBI knew this. The report only says “intelligence agencies” without id’ing the FBI as one that knew. It becomes more ambiguous as to who knew when it phrases the CIA’s knowledge as, “what, if any” suggesting, suggesting the CIA is not the one who “knew”, though that appears to be from a different source (senior lawmaker) from the other (two American officials).

In another respect, who might have acquired this knowledge? Was it via the Hasan’s in-country attempts (which the FBI would likely be the party responsible for monitoring it, or via international calls that were intercepted (which the DoD/CIA would be more likely to have monitored)? Is this report even telling us anything more than that Hasan had tried to call(contact via e-mail) someone besides Awlaki, and maybe did and that call was intercepted and conversation recorded?

It’s possible the FBI is one of the ones that knew, but your calling out the FBI seems premature especially since if “intelligence agencies” knew, wouldn’t that include “defense intelligence agencies” and who runs those agencies and why didn’t they inform the “Army”.

Dusty on November 9, 2009 at 10:20 AM

so he can start acting the part
NumberTwo on November 9, 2009 at 10:18 AM

He has been acting that’s the problem –leader he isn’t!

rebuzz on November 9, 2009 at 10:20 AM

He wasn’t trying to contact Al Qaeda. He was just making a prank call. He asked for Al Qaholic.

LibTired on November 9, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Heh.

nyx on November 9, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Ed, please be a man and explicitly blame Obama for this. Actually, I know you won’t, because you can’t.

Tom_Shipley on November 9, 2009 at 10:18 AM

The FBI knew. They must have briefed Obama. Obama must have approved the operation to track this terrorist. The op failed. 13 people are dead.

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 10:21 AM

I am past insulted when the government will let people die so as not to hurt any Muslim feelings. More than my feelings are hurt.

Cindy Munford on November 9, 2009 at 10:13 AM

Get used to it sister – you DO NOT matter to Obama or the Democrats. Your kids don’t matter to them either – especially if you’re raising them to be responsible adults who value liberty and therefore not likely to vote Democrat.

We have a tyranny of the minority to uphold here – and a Democratic voter coalition that demands we protect the feelings of Muslims even if your kids have to die.

It’s a small price to pay don’t you think?

/ sarcasm.

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Tom, I am sure you would join us in a call for a Congressional investigation to get to the bottom of this.

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 10:23 AM

The FBI knew. They must have briefed Obama. Obama must have approved the operation to track this terrorist. The op failed. 13 people are dead.

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Evidence,please.

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 10:23 AM

Ed, where does the ABC report say, the FBI knew this. The report only says “intelligence agencies” without id’ing the FBI as one that knew. It becomes more ambiguous as to who knew when it phrases the CIA’s knowledge as, “what, if any” suggesting, suggesting the CIA is not the one who “knew”, though that appears to be from a different source (senior lawmaker) from the other (two American officials).

You’re absolutely right. It could be an interagency communications breakdown.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Tom_Shipley on November 9, 2009 at 10:18 AM

You know, your problem seems to be excessive focus on personalities at the expense of practices.

Count to 10 on November 9, 2009 at 10:24 AM

It seems we don’t get much mileage out of Barack Obama.

Sold our kid’s into economic slavery to pay for a stimulus package that was supposed to keep unemployment below 8 percent. It’s now 10.2 percent.

Vowed to close Gitmo in order to change overseas perceptions – yet none of our friends want to send more troops to Afghanistan.

Went on an apology tour (two of ‘em) in order to make friends with Islam – and now we’re attacked on our own soil.

If Barack Obama were a car – he’d be a Ford Pinto.

Can we recall his ass?

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 10:25 AM

Evidence,please.

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 10:23 AM

Yeah let’s not assume that the President gets FBI briefings … afterall – we need a way to blame this on the FBI.

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 10:26 AM

If this is on Obama, then, by the same logic, 9/11 is clearly on Bush. Moreso, since Bush was actually briefed on the threat, while there’s no indication that this went beyond low-level investigators.

Just sayin’.

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 10:01 AM

You are right, we don’t yet know what Obama knew, but President Bush was briefed on a general aviation threat, he wasn’t given a list of the hijacker names in advance.

If Obama was told an Islamic Army major had attempted to contact Al Qaeda, he is far more responsible for Fort Hood than Bush was for 9/11.

Regardless of what Obama knew or did not know, people with his mindset are directly responsible for Fort Hood.

flyfisher on November 9, 2009 at 10:26 AM

The BEST point I’ve heard yet was made last night by a guy who is a civil rights lawyers. Remember, we are fighting two wars to protect Muslims from these radical groups. Therefore, we can’t or shouldn’t suggest that everyone who practices that religion is bad. That would completely negate the purpose of the wars.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:08 AM

I was under the impression we were fighting two wars to protect our own a$$es from radical islam, not fighting to protect Muslims. What an inane statement! No one is saying everyone who practices that religion is bad. But all the terrorists are muslim and worship allah.

silvernana on November 9, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Show proof that something Obama did influenced the FBI in a way that would be different than how they acted under Bush, of STFU.

Tom_Shipley on November 9, 2009 at 10:18 AM

It’s called culture, and it is a lot different under Obooboo, you silly troll. Political correctness dominates and American Exceptionalism is dead. That tells every government employee where they stand, and they will make decisions accordingly.

If you don’t like this site, just click the little “x” in the upper right hand corner.

Laura in Maryland on November 9, 2009 at 10:26 AM

I’ve contacted everyone I can think of and asked for a Congressional Investigation into this.

Please do the same. Oh, who am I kidding? A congressional investigation? I need a private firm to do the work for me…

bridgetown on November 9, 2009 at 10:27 AM

There is no column.
Only a dimwit would indulge those imbeciles.

Take away from that what you will.

Abby Adams on November 9, 2009 at 10:18 AM

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I’m seriously trying not to burst out in hysterical laughter here at work.

What an idiot.

MobileVideoEngineer on November 9, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Need a hot game of basketball with a lot of suck-up buddies to think this one out!

bluegrass on November 9, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Evidence,please.

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 10:23 AM

So, you would also like an investigation?

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 10:27 AM

is the PC-types like you doing the painting. As long as the left allows radicals to go unchallenged, they will continue to hide among the rest. I can’t imagine that those who practice peaceful islam appreciate having the nutjobs lumped in with the rest of the muslims.

Laura in Maryland on November 9, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Well, gosh, Laura. We do have some freedoms left. If a fundamentalist Christian goes off and murders abortion workers, you wouldn’t consider the idea of all Christians being subjected to scrutiny from government agencies, would you?

The question here is why nobody took his very obvious and public discussions seriously. He wasn’t even hiding it. He was even counseled about it.

The question lays completely with the army, not with even the FBI or Homeland Security, etc. It’s the Army that kept this yahoo in.

This is beyond being “PC.” This is something else.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:27 AM

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 10:23 AM

I have no problem with an investigation. I have problem with implied attacks on people citing zero evidence.

Tom_Shipley on November 9, 2009 at 10:28 AM

was under the impression we were fighting two wars to protect our own a$$es from radical islam, not fighting to protect Muslims

Then why worry at all about Afghanastan. In fact, it’s a bit better if they are there instead of Pakistan.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:28 AM

New leftie explanation of the day:

He went to strip clubs, which means he had pent up sexual agression, which means he did this because he couldn’t get laid, or something.

Joe Caps on November 9, 2009 at 10:30 AM

Can we jump to conclusions now?

rrpjr on November 9, 2009 at 10:30 AM

flyfisher on November 9, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Obama IS responsible for this.

When 9-11 happened – we were NOT at war with Islamofascism and we were blindsided.

But we know better now. Bush turned over a nation to Obama that was on A WAR FOOTING. Obama did what? Took us off the war footing. Refused to call it war any more. Went after the CIA agents that kept this nation safe with EIT’s. Took the CIA completely out of the business of interrogations.

So this attack is on him. Obama is responsible for this attack.

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 10:30 AM

Yeah let’s not assume that the President gets FBI briefings … afterall – we need a way to blame this on the FBI.

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Bury is on a ‘need to know’ basis, if Rahm and George think he needs to know the tell him.

thomasaur on November 9, 2009 at 10:31 AM

Regardless of what Obama knew or did not know, people with his mindset are directly responsible for Fort Hood.

flyfisher on November 9, 2009 at 10:26 AM

So your saying that, regardless of what the actual facts may reveal, Obama is responsible for this?

So, you would also like an investigation?

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Obviously.

Let the chips fall where they may. Though I’m betting on mid-level bureaucratic incompetence.

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 10:31 AM

Show proof that something Obama did influenced the FBI in a way that would be different than how they acted under Bush, of STFU.

Tom_Shipley on November 9, 2009 at 10:18 AM

Ended EIT’s and profiling.

Now you STFU huh?

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 10:31 AM

you’re

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 10:31 AM

The reason I don’t get the PC drum beat here is that the army did give him a poor performance review. They weren’t afraid to do that.

The FBI not acting is a puzzle to me so far, particularly in light of this tidbit that he was actually in contact and they knew. But I’ve not seen evidence that the FBI shies away from pursuing others doing the same.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:13 AM

Yeah, poor performance review was all that was needed for a known pro-terrorist./sarcasm

You are a nutjob.

shick on November 9, 2009 at 10:31 AM

I have problem with implied attacks on people citing zero evidence.

Tom_Shipley on November 9, 2009 at 10:28 AM

Let’s see… I am looking back at all your old posts. I can’t seem to locate any complaining about criticism of Bush, Palin, Cheney…

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 10:32 AM

Y’all need to stop jumping to conclusions. Obama is the real victim here.

Christien on November 9, 2009 at 10:32 AM

What we need here is a beer fest with our top Generals and the Muslim communities for a teachable moment. The chickens have come home to roost.

mmmmm mmmmm mmmmmm

bluegrass on November 9, 2009 at 10:32 AM

alexwest on November 9, 2009 at 9:53 AM

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 10:01 AM

“I won”. Barak Hussein Obama.

Johan Klaus on November 9, 2009 at 10:32 AM

Let the chips fall where they may. Though I’m betting on mid-level bureaucratic incompetence.

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 10:31 AM

The Captain is in charge of the ship.

Who’s the Captain? Ohhh … that’s right. The guy who went after the CIA for EITs, ended EIT’s, and banned the use of the term “War on Terror”.

But let’s not blame THAT GUY!!

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Under our new “enlightened” guidlines what could the FBI even do? Offer him cookies and ice cream? With only being able to “threaten” him with a Club-Fed vacation it makes it impossible to extract any intel from our opponents.

Thus constrained, LE can only sit back, observe and hope that the “suspect” mleads investigators to bigger fish and hope foe the best. Which is what it appears they were doing.

Until we start treating the enemy like an enemy instead upstart recalcitrant children, we will remain vulnerable to their infiltrations and attacks. PC rectitude is going to get us all killed if we continue to take such thinking seriously, we need to get real and pursue war like a… well, a freakin war!

Archimedes on November 9, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Obama failed.

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Yeah, poor performance review was all that was needed for a known pro-terrorist./sarcasm

You are a nutjob.

shick on November 9, 2009 at 10:31 AM

I don’t get why they didn’t boot him out, for sure. But they weren’t afraid to call him out on performance.

I think the Army has to answer for their decision.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:33 AM

flyfisher on November 9, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Obama IS responsible for this.

When 9-11 happened – we were NOT at war with Islamofascism and we were blindsided.

But we know better now. Bush turned over a nation to Obama that was on A WAR FOOTING. Obama did what? Took us off the war footing. Refused to call it war any more. Went after the CIA agents that kept this nation safe with EIT’s. Took the CIA completely out of the business of interrogations.

So this attack is on him. Obama is responsible for this attack.

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 10:30 AM

Honda, my comment was more about defending President Bush than assigning blame for Fort hood. But you are right. Even if Obama didn’t know about Hasan, he knows of the danger of radical Islam and willingly ignore it, so he’s to blame.

flyfisher on November 9, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Y’all need to stop jumping to conclusions. Obama is the real victim here.

Christien on November 9, 2009 at 10:32 AM

He always has been and always will be.

thomasaur on November 9, 2009 at 10:34 AM

OK, something dawned on me here. The media is trying to make this scum bag out to be a victim because he was harassed because of his religion. He was working with patients who came back from a war zone and are suffering from PTSD. Do you think this is where the source of the so called harassment might be coming from? If that’s the case, it’s a very lame excuse that he would snap because he’s being picked on since the source of said harassment is from his patients that have mental issues. Also, who thought it would be a good idea to have a guy that resembles the enemy treat guys that have PTSD?

mizflame98 on November 9, 2009 at 10:34 AM

flyfisher on November 9, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Yeah I realize that … it’s cool brother!

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 10:35 AM

/rage

Midas on November 9, 2009 at 10:35 AM

This is beyond being “PC.” This is something else.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:27 AM

PC run amok! Remember when there were threats of lawsuits when Americans reported suspicious activity? Even the media is screaming “Let’s not jump to conclusions!” There are statements Hasan made to neighbors, co-workers, and other muslims that this was motivated by his religious beliefs, yet cowards like you refuse to admit that Islam played any part in this. It is just stupid.

Laura in Maryland on November 9, 2009 at 10:36 AM

The true answer is in What would Rahm do?

bluegrass on November 9, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Do you think this is where the source of the so called harassment might be coming from?

The source was the interview with his cousin on the day of the shooting. Shep on Fox reported it.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Also, who thought it would be a good idea to have a guy that resembles the enemy treat guys that have PTSD?

mizflame98 on November 9, 2009 at 10:34 AM

He was given that position because of Army political correctness.

Which hopefully will end now.

But it won’t. It’s not like this is the administration of hope and change. No hope and only negative change.

We’re screwed. Buy all of your kids a flack jacket.

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Evidence,please.

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 10:23 AM

They’re not dead?

James on November 9, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Regardless of what Obama knew or did not know, people with his mindset are directly responsible for Fort Hood.

flyfisher on November 9, 2009 at 10:26 AM

So your saying that, regardless of what the actual facts may reveal, Obama is responsible for this?

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 10:31 AM

There’s no other way to see it. He, and people with his pro-Islamic and politically correct mindset, rush to protect Islam at all costs, even in the military. He’s coddled-up to our enemies, while distancing us from our traditional allies. He’s a naive fool. And as Honda pointed out, he took us off a war footing. I could go on and on. Of course he is to blame.

flyfisher on November 9, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Also, who thought it would be a good idea to have a guy that resembles the enemy treat guys that have PTSD?

mizflame98 on November 9, 2009 at 10:34 AM

Good point. I had not thought of that yet. It would be like taking guys fresh back from ‘nam and being like “your new counseler, Charlie, is the nice vietnamese man in the office at the end of the hallway.”

Joe Caps on November 9, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Tried to contact Al Qaeda and went to the same mosque.

No jumping to a conclusion here. If you can’t decide whether this guy was a terrorist, then Sherlock effing Holmes you ain’t.

Decisions.

ted c on November 9, 2009 at 10:37 AM

yet cowards like you refuse to admit that Islam played any part in this. It is just stupid.

Laura in Maryland on November 9, 2009 at 10:36 AM

I have repeatedly said his fundamental religion played a part.

I simply don’t go to the next level that some of you might be doing. It’s not all Muslims. It’s not all mosques. It’s a particular sector.

Some of you honestly do strike me as advocating against all Muslims. Not everyone here, of course. But there’s a lot of posts suggesting just that.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:39 AM

In his weekly address Saturday, the president declared that “we cannot fully know” Hasan’s motives… (washingtonexaminer)

I want to give a ‘shout-out’ to our out-of-touch president…

TN Mom on November 9, 2009 at 10:39 AM

So your saying that, regardless of what the actual facts may reveal, Obama is responsible for this?

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 10:31 AM

The evidence shows that Obama has created a culture of complacency in the War on Terror … oh excuse me – I can’t call it that any more because Obama banned that term.

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 10:39 AM

You are right, we don’t yet know what Obama knew, but President Bush was briefed on a general aviation threat, he wasn’t given a list of the hijacker names in advance.

flyfisher on November 9, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Bush was told there might be bombings by American muslim youths. There were no bombings by American muslim youths. And the mention of hijackings talked about demands, not flying missiles.

Wouldn’t you have just loved to see American muslims profiled by Bush before 9/11? The libs won’t even let us profile them now. I’m revolted that these are the people in charge now.

LibTired on November 9, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Some of you honestly do strike me as advocating against all Muslims. Not everyone here, of course. But there’s a lot of posts suggesting just that.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:39 AM

ahhh… Nothing like a good smear coming from a “concerned” troll.

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Also, who thought it would be a good idea to have a guy that resembles the enemy treat guys that have PTSD?

mizflame98 on November 9, 2009 at 10:34 AM

That is an excellent point! But it seems to be there’s not much thinking about the well-being of our guys like that.

silvernana on November 9, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Maybe Hassan felt he was being harrassed because none of his patients wanted to convert to Islam. I bet that works for Barry.

bloggless on November 9, 2009 at 10:42 AM

Barack HUSSEIN Obama will make it all better.

PrincipledPilgrim on November 9, 2009 at 10:42 AM

Maybe Barry can give a shout out to Major Hasan to kick off the memorial service.

Christien on November 9, 2009 at 10:42 AM

Also, who thought it would be a good idea to have a guy that resembles the enemy treat guys that have PTSD?

mizflame98 on November 9, 2009 at 10:34 AM

Why, the government, of course. And pretty soon they’ll be appointing all the doctors.

LibTired on November 9, 2009 at 10:42 AM

All this because the loser couldn’t get a girlfriend?

bloggless on November 9, 2009 at 10:42 AM

ahhh… Nothing like a good smear coming from a “concerned” troll.

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 10:40 AM

I’m not concerned about anyone’s opinion here. I just said I wasn’t ready to wrap this up and tie it all up with a PC bow and blame Obama.

I don’t see the evidence for that.

I do absolutely wonder why the Army doesn’t have a method for evaluating these situations, whether it involves Muslims or otherwise. This is not the first shooting they have had.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Alleged Fort Hood Shooter Frequented Local Strip Club

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,573052,00.html

How the MSM is going spin this: The stripper made me do it.

poxoma on November 9, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Fox is reporting that the guy frequented strip clubs.

One more in the category of “Muslim feels ashamed of enjoying Western life / afraid that murder is the only way to redeem himself.”

Count to 10 on November 9, 2009 at 10:44 AM

I don’t get why they didn’t boot him out, for sure. But they weren’t afraid to call him out on performance.

I think the Army has to answer for their decision.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:33 AM

His immediate leadership called him out on his behavior. It was either above them that must have decided “We can’t kick him out because it will be seen as anti-muslim.”

Your other comment about the “pro-life” (he really wasn’t pro-life was he) nutjob that kills an abortionist only demonstrates your wrong. The media loves to point out that he/she was a fundamentalist christian but PC dorks like Matthews insist on this story, “We’ll never know if religion influenced his actions”.

PC raises its ugly head all over the place with this.

shick on November 9, 2009 at 10:44 AM

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 10:31 AM

The Captain is in charge of the ship.

Who’s the Captain? Ohhh … that’s right. The guy who went after the CIA for EITs, ended EIT’s, and banned the use of the term “War on Terror”.

But let’s not blame THAT GUY!!

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 10:33 AM

As long as that applies to every president, I’m OK with that. Please, though, don’t come at me in a future discussion with “it wasn’t Bush’s fault.” Either the buck stops in the Oval Office for every occupant or it doesn’t.

Bleeds Blue on November 9, 2009 at 10:45 AM

All this because the loser couldn’t get a girlfriend?

bloggless on November 9, 2009 at 10:42 AM

Some guy told him he could 72 “girlfriends” if he carried out a suicide terror attack.

HondaV65 on November 9, 2009 at 10:45 AM

Not only did the the Warrantless Harding Administration eavesdrop on poor Mr. Hasan because of his peaceful religion, and violate his Sacred Constitutional Right to Commit Treason–but then they didn’t do anything about it! They left him in place!

Noel on November 9, 2009 at 10:45 AM

Man, I love black humor and this joke gets darker by the day.

Everyone wants to lay this at the feet of Obama as though he did this as well as burning the toast this morning. It could help increase the vote for your faction at some pole.

This is incredibly serious, there is a gorge to leap or stear away from that no one wants to see. Who is to blame? The leaders of the US the last quarter century with W providing the hockey stick effect after 911 by filling the government with suddenly available hordes of friendly Muslim interpreters of Islam. Right now Obama is filling the rafters with Muslim advisers and helpers because Bush already stuffed the ground floors. Now was Bush malevolent or incompetent?

BL@KBIRD on November 9, 2009 at 10:45 AM

I’ve read in a couple of places they were following this guy for 6 months. So this is all on Zero. Which as a CIC I have no respect for. He’s done nothing to help the soilders at Fort Hood, but to use them to push health care through.

Hubby seems to think they won’t give this terrorist the death penalty. Although I hope he’s wrong. He says he just can’t see them killing a muslim not matter what he did. With the war going on he seems to think it might piss more terrorists off if we kill him. He doesn’t agree with this it’s just what he thinks. I hope he is wrong.

FUBO FUBO

Brat4life on November 9, 2009 at 10:45 AM

What an idiot.

MobileVideoEngineer on November 9, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Stop calling Obama names.

Johan Klaus on November 9, 2009 at 10:46 AM

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