$25 billion “stimulus” program produces 0 jobs

posted at 10:12 am on November 9, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

When Nancy Pelosi pushed Porkulus through on a party-line vote in the House and Harry Reid could only get three Republicans in the Senate, the GOP opposed the bill because it wouldn’t stimulate a nymphomaniac stripper on a Friday night.  The bill almost entirely consisted of nothing more than a laundry list of Democratic pork and progressive wish lists that had been circulating around Capitol Hill for years.  The Washington Post highlights one of the most prominent of the Porkulus programs, a $25 billion “energy efficiency” program that proves the point:

In Baltimore, the 300 block of East 23 1/2 Street is getting patched up in time for winter. One economic stimulus program is paying to insulate 11 rental rowhouses, another is paying for furnaces and a third is covering the cost for reflective roofs to be installed by prison inmates in a job-training program.

The block is part of one of the biggest initiatives ever undertaken by the federal government, a nationwide push to improve the energy efficiency of buildings. But as the national unemployment rate crosses into the double digits and Republicans question the stimulus program’s impact, the work on East 23 1/2 — even with all of its activity — has so far not produced a single job.

Nine months after Congress passed the $787 billion stimulus package, there is little tangible to show for one of its biggest single areas of investment, the $25 billion energy-efficiency effort. That points to one of the central tensions of President Obama’s landmark stimulus package: His goal was to inject money quickly into the economy while at the same time laying the groundwork for his broader, transformational agenda on energy, education and health care.

The Post doesn’t have that quite right.  This program and its zero-jobs output shows that Obama intended to lay the groundwork for a broad progressive agenda that would have the federal government eating up more capital and assuming greater power over the lives of Americans.  Not even Obama could sell this as an injection of cash into the economy. Most of the money went to states, which have mainly held onto it while they study the best way to build their bureaucracies on “energy efficiency.”

In fact, the entire issue of “efficiency” is rather ironic in this context.  We spent $25 billion on this project from an appropriation intended to create jobs now, not four years from now when the private sector would have already recovered — especially if it had been allowed to keep more of its own money for investment in its own infrastructure.  With a total of zero jobs created, the efficiency of this project can be measured in only the most microscopic of terms.

We call this bill Porkulus for a reason.  With the exception of the targeted tax breaks, which the Democrats only included to entice rightly skeptical Republicans, nothing in this bill had anything to do with job stimulation.  It had everything to do with paying off Democratic special interests and funding pet projects of progressives.  The picture used by the Washington Post shows the seriousness of the effort: the big visual of this project is people installing reflectors on roofs.  We would have done better to burn the $25 billion for the heat.

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$25 billion “stimulus” program produces 0 jobs

So how much is that per job produced? :-0

highhopes on November 9, 2009 at 10:16 AM

It’s the thought that counts.

Loxodonta on November 9, 2009 at 10:16 AM

The Keynesian multiplier is a myth…. Let Lord Keynes rest.

Caper29 on November 9, 2009 at 10:17 AM

The real shocker here is that one or two extra people were not hired to just stand around and collect a paycheck and provide a jobs created statistic.

myrenovations on November 9, 2009 at 10:19 AM

$25 billion “stimulus” program produces 0 jobs

But how many jobs did it save?

thomasaur on November 9, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Do you know what is sad…they could have given me just 1 billion and I would have done the same…in fact just 5 million and I could have saved them almost the whole 25 billion.
I have got to apply for a job in Washington…1 million a year and I promise not to do anything.

right2bright on November 9, 2009 at 10:19 AM

One economic stimulus program is paying to insulate 11 rental rowhouses, another is paying for furnaces and a third is covering the cost for reflective roofs to be installed by prison inmates in a job-training program.

Hey, I could use a new furnace and upgraded insulation in my home.

Where’s mine?

Oh, that’s right…. I didn’t vote for Obama, so no “free” goodies for me.

UltimateBob on November 9, 2009 at 10:19 AM

So let it be written, So let it be done

mmmmm mmmmm mmmmm

bluegrass on November 9, 2009 at 10:19 AM

I bet we could at least triple the number of jobs produced by spending a mere $50 billion more. A drop in the bucket compared to the benefits our nation will receive.

Loxodonta on November 9, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Let Lord Keynes rest Rot in hell.

Caper29 on November 9, 2009 at 10:17 AM

FIFY

UltimateBob on November 9, 2009 at 10:20 AM

So can we have an accounting of where that $25 billion is? Who has it, SEIU, ACORN or Soros?

This is out and out fraud and theft.

rbj on November 9, 2009 at 10:20 AM

I’m not sure I want a job created by Obama. “Union Thug” and “Bread Line Waiter” aren’t exactly resume builders.

trubble on November 9, 2009 at 10:21 AM

It’ssaving Obama’s job, that’s 1

Jeff from WI on November 9, 2009 at 10:22 AM

But how many jobs did it save?

thomasaur on November 9, 2009 at 10:19 AM

A lot.

Really!

One vacant lot.

Loxodonta on November 9, 2009 at 10:22 AM

I upgraded my home with all the money saved from the “Free Gas and Free Mortgage payments” paradise we now live in.

mankai on November 9, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Lets not forget dear Nanzi’s role in this scandal and the liberal democrats who voted for this sham. Their names should be continuously printed for all to never forget who put this curse on our and future generations.

bluegrass on November 9, 2009 at 10:22 AM

The answer here is clearly a 2nd stimulus!

WisCon on November 9, 2009 at 10:22 AM

In Baltimore, the 300 block of East 23 1/2 Street is getting patched up in time for winter.

Does this mean that Obama now owns this street and he can tell me not to drive my SUV on it?

Tommy_G on November 9, 2009 at 10:23 AM

See the USA in a chevrolet

mmmmm mmmmm mmmmm

bluegrass on November 9, 2009 at 10:23 AM

Peggy Noonan is shocked.

mankai on November 9, 2009 at 10:23 AM

25 billion divided by zero equals eleventy trillion jobs saved or created!!!!

Or at least that’s what the big-hearted liberals told me.

Skittles, unicorns, jobs and health care for all! What a country!

BardMan on November 9, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Wrong!

It created at least one job — the person charged with spinning this into a “win” for BHO!

rebuzz on November 9, 2009 at 10:24 AM

So how much is that per job produced? :-0

highhopes on November 9, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Hmm..Let’s see…25,000,000,000 divided by 0 equals …
OH GAWD A RIFT IN THE SPACE TIME CONTINUUM!!!!!

Spectreman on November 9, 2009 at 10:25 AM

So can we have an accounting of where that $25 billion is?

Well, if they are using inmates to do work projects, Andy Dufresne knows.

reaganaut on November 9, 2009 at 10:25 AM

SUCESSS!

– crr6

Such a great morning in America.

– Bleeds Blue

WashJeff on November 9, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Nobody messes with Joe….

TN Mom on November 9, 2009 at 10:26 AM

This is Part 1 of Van Jones Green Jobs scam.

faraway on November 9, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Socialist jobs for the boys.

This administration is not on incompetent but it is venal and corrupt.

Anders on November 9, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Well, if they are using inmates to do work projects, Andy Dufresne knows.

reaganaut on November 9, 2009 at 10:25 AM

Heh

thomasaur on November 9, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Socialist jobs for the boys.

This administration is not on incompetent but it is venal and corrupt.

Anders on November 9, 2009 at 10:26 AM

thomasaur on November 9, 2009 at 10:28 AM

I want more spent on those highly productive “green jobs”.
Actually I’d take orange, blue, red, clovers, hearts, moons, stars, hell any jobs.

Jeff from WI on November 9, 2009 at 10:30 AM

Most of the stimulus went into the pockets of gov’t union workers, frankly.

And the public does know it. Hence, VA and NJ.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:30 AM

The states used the money to pay for already budgeted and paid for projects…. there are no saved or created jobs. It was a bait and switch scam.

roux on November 9, 2009 at 10:30 AM

But a second stimulus would be different.

Really?

pjean on November 9, 2009 at 10:32 AM

I want more spent on those highly productive “green jobs”.
Actually I’d take orange, blue, red, clovers, hearts, moons, stars, hell any jobs.

Jeff from WI on November 9, 2009 at 10:30 AM

Oh don’t worry, they are creating jobs for the Reds. And I don’t mean the Cincinnati baseball team.

rbj on November 9, 2009 at 10:32 AM

$25 Billion!!

How much better would it have been to give 50 different entrepreneurs $500 Million each to start new companies with minimum employee requirements (200 people per company permanently hired by year two) Heck, it could be based on “green” technology for all I care. Look at the strides we’ve made with solar over the last few years.

I know that comes out to $2.5 million per job but if they are permanent jobs in growth industry it could be 4 times that many jobs in 5 years.

Or we could dump all $25 BILLION into a black hole, create no jobs and no wealth…..as long as it keeps the democrats in office then its a winner!!

Ditkaca on November 9, 2009 at 10:33 AM

No, Ed.

That’s 25 billion jobs “saved or created.”

Get it right, wingnut. Stop lying about the greatness of Obama’s Five Year Plan.

Good Lt on November 9, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Here’s what $25 billion will buy you these days. Damn.

txag92 on November 9, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Most of the stimulus went into the pockets of gov’t union workers, frankly.

And the public does know it. Hence, VA and NJ.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:30 AM

Then Obama and the Obamacrats lied.

This wasn’t about job creation or lowering unemployment.

This was about Democrat politics, cronyism, corporatism and pork barrel spending. “Spreading the wealth around,” consequences to real people be damned.

Joe Wilson was right. So was Joe the Plumber.

Good Lt on November 9, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Here’s what $25 billion will buy you these days. Damn.

txag92 on November 9, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Dang, hit the street view. It’s facsinating.

txag92 on November 9, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Here’s what $25 billion will buy you these days. Damn.

txag92 on November 9, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Gayety Show World is awesome I tell you! Awesome!!!!

WashJeff on November 9, 2009 at 10:38 AM

The only question I really have is how many of those nymphomaniac strippers am I gonna need to get me through the next three years.

TXUS on November 9, 2009 at 10:38 AM

How much better would it have been to give 50 different entrepreneurs $500 Million each to start new companies with minimum employee requirements (200 people per company permanently hired by year two) Heck, it could be based on “green” technology for all I care. Look at the strides we’ve made with solar over the last few years.

Or just let the taxpayers keep their money – they spend it better than the government ever will, no matter what hysterical emotional paean Obamacrats want to scream at you.

Good Lt on November 9, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Here in Nebraska, Senator Ben Nelson’s website is touting receiving funding from Porkulus for so-called ‘energy efficiency’ projects.

One of the biggest is purchasing ‘Smart Meters’ so we ignorant people can ‘better manage our energy usage’.

I was paying my bill online last week and noticed a link on my electrical providers website talking about these wonderful ‘Smart Meters’

According to the charts on the website, my electrical rates will TRIPLE during the ‘peak hours’ of 4-8pm and 8-9am. So, as long as I don’t use my stove, water heater or clothes dryer during those times I should be O.K. :o/

So, my hard earned tax dollars are being spent to give the power company the ability to charge me at an hourly rate???

How is this even legal?

cntrlfrk on November 9, 2009 at 10:42 AM

We would have done better to burn the $25 billion for the heat.

but just think of all the carbon that would emit, Ed.

/s

Joe Caps on November 9, 2009 at 10:43 AM

The stimulus bill was BS spin. Really, this WAS the state bailout bill.

The states have to answer for how they spent it, to their own people, for one.

I know in CA it was mostly used to keep schools from massive cuts, etc., but it’s already gone. And it didn’t really work. The state ran out of money anyway.

So they are facing cuts in the second half of the year.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:46 AM

A flawless post, unassailable logic. Well done, Mr. Morrisey.

JDPerren on November 9, 2009 at 10:49 AM

Rosa DeLauro
Phone: 202-225-3661
Fax: 202-225-4890

Wouldn’t it be interesting to call this Pro-abortion Congresswoman and ask her why she voted for HR 3269 when it goes against pro-choice ideology. Talk about selling women down the river.

bloggless on November 9, 2009 at 10:53 AM

A fewgroups seems to be doing well under the Obama Administration. Government jobs, teaching jobs, gun and ammunition makers.

Jeff from WI on November 9, 2009 at 10:54 AM

SUCESSS!
– crr6
Such a great morning in America.
– Bleeds Blue
WashJeff on November 9, 2009 at 10:26 AM

My cat’s breath smells like catfood.

- Simplesimon

Chuck Schick on November 9, 2009 at 10:54 AM

Is unemployed considered a career if you’re not a minority?

Jeff from WI on November 9, 2009 at 10:56 AM

With a total of zero jobs created, the efficiency of this project can be measured in only the most microscopic of terms.

Juxtapose this with the carbon “savings” from C4C and we’ve got ourselves a real set o’ great deals!

//s//cry//s//

ted c on November 9, 2009 at 10:56 AM

Does it matter? No one that can do anything about it, seems the least bit outraged. I am slowly slipping into the “I don’t care anymore” stage…

These people in government will do as they please with impunity because they are not feeling any pain for their crimes.

Pelosi clapping like a seal on Saturday should have driven home the point. They feel no pain so they do as they please.

Tea Parties are not cutting it, the media does not cover them so they feel no pain even there…

When there are no consequences for the crimes they commit, what is to stop them from committing them? If billions wasted and funneled to their partners and friends under the ruse of job creation is not a crime…then what is?

Dark days indeed.

javamartini on November 9, 2009 at 10:57 AM

The koolaid drinker’s answer will be that the States and local governments are the problem so we should give more power to Obama and his toadies.

aikidoka on November 9, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Here’s what $25 billion will buy you these days. Damn.

txag92 on November 9, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Dang, hit the street view. It’s facsinating.

txag92 on November 9, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Rotate the street view to the other side of the street. There’s a “Circus Show Bar”. That must be where the nymphomaniac strippers are.

chewydog on November 9, 2009 at 11:03 AM

The stimulus bill was BS spin. Really, this WAS the state bailout bill.

The states have to answer for how they spent it, to their own people, for one.

I know in CA it was mostly used to keep schools from massive cuts, etc., but it’s already gone. And it didn’t really work. The state ran out of money anyway.

So they are facing cuts in the second half of the year.

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 10:46 AM

STILL stuck on stupid. There would not have to be massive cuts had the thugs, thieves and liars in the California Teachers Union and United Teachers Los Angeles not get paid the highest of ANY K-12 teacher in the COUNTRY. Instead, they make more than any other public school teachers and the kids graduate dumber than a bag of rocks. But lets bail them out. Brilliant!

Andy in Agoura Hills on November 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Rosa DeLauro
Phone: 202-225-3661
Fax: 202-225-4890
Wouldn’t it be interesting to call this Pro-abortion Congresswoman and ask her why she voted for HR 3269 when it goes against pro-choice ideology. Talk about selling women down the river.

bloggless on November 9, 2009 at 10:53 AM

If you think it’s just fine to kill babies in the first place, then a little voting hypocracy or lying is probably not going to trouble your conscience.

At the same time, she also knows that abortion will be added back in the program after the 2010 elections, probably as a rider in a defense spending bill or some such.

TXUS on November 9, 2009 at 11:06 AM

This is only one example, but come on, looks like criminals is a voting block the Dems are going after. They can do work for Acorn as Prison to Work transition program. The Dems can put up aluminium foil on their windows, but they need ex-cons to do the dangerous work on roofs.

Ed Laskie on November 9, 2009 at 11:06 AM

The stimulus bill was BS spin. Really, this WAS the state bailout bill.

The states have to answer for how they spent it, to their own people, for one.

I know in CA it was mostly used to keep schools from massive cuts, etc., but it’s already gone. And it didn’t really work. The state ran out of money anyway.

So they are facing cuts in the second half of the year.

Can’t WAIT to see how these geniuses – the same ones who engineered the failures you’re describing – run the nation’s health care.

Can’t you? Boy, it’s just going to be SO GREAT that we can’t comprehend it.

Just wait. Obama and the Obamacrats will fix everything. It will work this time.

Good Lt on November 9, 2009 at 11:09 AM

They should have hired the strippers and and least gotten some people with energy in them.

ajacksonian on November 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM

Come on Ed. I’m sure 1 or 2 chickens got f**ked in the process. :P

lorien1973 on November 9, 2009 at 11:15 AM

STILL stuck on stupid. There would not have to be massive cuts had the thugs, thieves and liars in the California Teachers Union and United Teachers Los Angeles not get paid the highest of ANY K-12 teacher in the COUNTRY. Instead, they make more than any other public school teachers and the kids graduate dumber than a bag of rocks. But lets bail them out. Brilliant!

Andy in Agoura Hills on November 9, 2009 at 11:04 AM

You obviously missed my previous post. I said, “went into the pockets of gov’t union workers.”

AnninCA on November 9, 2009 at 11:16 AM

On strippers could spend/lose money like the government is doing without knowing where it went.

Jeff from WI on November 9, 2009 at 11:16 AM

Only not On

Jeff from WI on November 9, 2009 at 11:16 AM

O-bama is the true zero.

Plenty of Nothing… but crypto-marxism.

Zero concern for our troops.

Zero concern for our allies.

Zero concern for our economy.

Zero concern for jihadist terrorism.

Absolute zero-bama.

profitsbeard on November 9, 2009 at 11:16 AM

I believe that most of the new jobs created from Porkulus will actually be created in 2010. In the elections.

bloggless on November 9, 2009 at 11:20 AM

So how much is that per job produced? :-0

highhopes on November 9, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Nope.
.
25,000,000,000 / 0 = undefined
.
This the mathematical expression of “complete waste of time, money, and energy.”
.
It has a corollary:
25,000,000,000 / 318 = 78,616,352 = Democrat reparations and combined re-election payments, per member
.
This is the mathematical expression of “buying votes.”

ExpressoBold on November 9, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Ah yes, but what has it done for Obama’s future bank accounts?

rplat on November 9, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Only strippers could spend/lose money like the government is doing without knowing where it went.

Jeff from WI on November 9, 2009 at 11:16 AM

I don’t know any strippers personally, but I would be willing to bet that even they have a better grasp of economic issues than the clowns running the show in Washington DC these days.

UltimateBob on November 9, 2009 at 11:22 AM

Well, if they are using inmates to do work projects, Andy Dufresne knows.

reaganaut on November 9, 2009 at 10:25 AM

Heh

thomasaur on November 9, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Not so fast there.
Randall Stevens is the man you’re looking for.

Tom_OC on November 9, 2009 at 11:24 AM

I don’t know any strippers personally, but I would be willing to bet that even they have a better grasp of economic issues than the clowns running the show in Washington DC these days.

UltimateBob on November 9, 2009 at 11:22 AM

LOL…I wonder if in today’s stimulus economy they could get grants for new outfits and a tanker truck of perfume?

Jeff from WI on November 9, 2009 at 11:26 AM

One economic stimulus program is paying to insulate 11 rental rowhouses, another is paying for furnaces and a third is covering the cost for reflective roofs to be installed by prison inmates in a job-training program.

Just wondering, when do I get my free insulation and a nice new efficient furnace?

Oh that’s right, I’m a hard-working responsible citizen who pays his own way.

….. no freebies for you! (in soup nazi voice)

fogw on November 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM

I don’t know any strippers personally, but I would be willing to bet that even they have a better grasp of economic issues than the clowns running the show in Washington DC these days.

UltimateBob on November 9, 2009 at 11:22 AM

Here you are, Stormy has the answers.

WashJeff on November 9, 2009 at 11:35 AM

third is covering the cost for reflective roofs to be installed by prison inmates in a job-training program.

Oh my effing god. Are you kidding me? Prison inmates installing insulation. Wow. Just wow.

angryed on November 9, 2009 at 11:37 AM

It amazes me (depresses me, angers me, makes me want to… but I digress) how the government can at least lend verbiage toward their understanding that small businesses create jobs, and then place billions upon billions in pork, while the aforementioned small business dudes and dudettes scuffle for pence – and must jump through innumerable bureaucratic hurdles for the right to do so.

maninthemiddle on November 9, 2009 at 11:39 AM

How is this even legal?

cntrlfrk on November 9, 2009 at 10:42 AM

It’s legal because the dems view the constitution the same way they view toilet paper.

angryed on November 9, 2009 at 11:42 AM

Have no fear, John F’n Kerry is here!

cntrlfrk on November 9, 2009 at 11:42 AM

$25 billion “stimulus” program produces 0 jobs

But how many jobs did it save?

thomasaur on November 9, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Oh, that’s easy, let me get out my hand cranked energy efficient Obamalculator:

The answer is: 670 sesquiquadrillion jobs saved

Jason Coleman on November 9, 2009 at 11:43 AM

It is clear we will need funding for the trauma the strippers the Muslim terrorist visited. He got second hand Post trauma stress syndrome and I am convinced they will also have the disease from him second hand. That should be some 3-4 stimulus jobs. Oh wait. He gave them tips for stimulus.

seven on November 9, 2009 at 11:49 AM

If $50 billion were spent, maybe just maybe a job would have been created. – Paul Krugman

lorien1973 on November 9, 2009 at 11:55 AM

I’m not seeing any Progressives commenting on this story yet. Always interesting which threads they choose to “overlook.”

visions on November 9, 2009 at 12:59 PM

A frined of mine lost her job at Cox about 10 months ago. She attended free training classes and obtained her ‘energy audit’ certificate. She can audit a home or building and calculate the cost of making the building ‘greener’, and estimate the savings from the improvements.

She got that certificate 6 months ago and has been looking for a ‘green job’ ever since. No luck…simply no jobs in that industry exist at this time, at least not in Phoenix.

DrW on November 9, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Wake up people, this isn’t incompetence. We may be tempted to view Obama as a failure, but all that has happened is exactly as they planned. This aren’t mistakes, it is by design.

RightWinged on November 9, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Keep Spendin’, spendin’, spendin’
Though the taxpayers are disapprovin,
Keep them bailout billions movin’ Porkhide!
Don’t try to understand ‘em,
They’ll be free so just grab ‘em
Soon they’ll be living high and wide
Boy their heart’s are calculatin’
All their new graft will be waitin’, be waiting at the end of their ride

Spendin’, spendin’, spendin’
Spendin’, spendin’, spendin’
Spendin’, spendin’, spendin’
Spendin’, spendin’, spendin’
Porkhide!

Spendin’, spendin’, spendin’
Borrowin’ borrowin’, borrowin’,
Printin’, printin’, printin’
Though the deficit is swollen
Keep them bailouts rollin’
Porkhide!

MB4 on September 5, 2009 at 3:18 PM (HOTAIR poster)

sannhet on November 9, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Efficiency is a fine thing, but if you increase the efficiency of your business, you will generally require fewer employees to do the same amount of work. Efficiency and downsizing go hand-in-hand.

Now, what if the government became more efficient, hm?

ZenDraken on November 9, 2009 at 2:13 PM

Here you are, Stormy has the answers.

WashJeff on November 9, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Stormy is a porn star, not a stripper. There’s a difference. Get it right, Jeff! ;-)

Her campaign logo…. is that supposed to be a drawing of a hurricane? It kinda looks like an orifice. Just sayin’.

UltimateBob on November 9, 2009 at 2:58 PM

God, it’s like I can’t read anymore about this stuff…maybe I need more whiskey…

lovingmyUSA on November 9, 2009 at 3:06 PM

http://www.veteranoutrage.com

I wonder who owns the roofing company that was awared the contract?

I also wonder if obama and the dems counted the prisioners in their job creation or job saved stats..

This is such a blantant dishonest rip off of the american treasury it demands an investigation by the FBI..

Oh yea i forgot nepalitano is too busy
having the FBI running around investigating american veterans (instead of all of the muslims in the usa)..

So somehow i doubt nepalitano or any democrat would dare
open an investigation (unless it was owned by a rich white republican) ohhh hell then the liberals would be out like a pack of wolves howling for blood..

What a bunch of lying , cheating, fraudulent , theiving tratorous people these democrats are..

veteranoutrage on November 9, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Well, if they are using inmates to do work projects, Andy Dufresne knows.
reaganaut on November 9, 2009 at 10:25 AM

Zihuatanejo 

ya2daup on November 9, 2009 at 7:17 PM

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