Maybe this time…
posted at 1:10 pm on November 8, 2009 by Doctor Zero
Maybe the bill passed by the House on Saturday night will stay within its cost projections. Of course, you have several cost projections to choose from. The Democrats’ cost claims are all ridiculous lies, designed using accounting techniques that would land private businessmen in jail, just in time to save them from being drawn and quartered by stockholders. The Heritage Foundation’s estimate of $2.4 to $2.6 trillion over 10 years, beginning when the House bill transitions from front-loaded tax hikes to full Daffy Duck freak-out spending in 2014, is the most logical projection of its true costs I’ve seen.
Even this will likely prove to be an underestimation of the true long-term costs. No other Big Government program has ever stayed within an order of magnitude of the promises made when it was signed into law. Medicare originally cost about $3 billion, when it began in 1965, and was projected to cost about $12 billion by 1990, adjusted for inflation. The actual cost in 1990 was nearly ten times that figure, $107 billion. It was up to $440 billion by 2007. The architects of the program would have been run out of town on a rail, if these future costs had been known to the voters of 1965.
The difference between promised benefits and expected revenues for Social Security and Medicare amounts to about $107 trillion dollars, which Doug Bandow of the Cato Institute points out is double the annual Gross Domestic Product of the entire world. The most strident opponent of the New Deal would never have dreamed of predicting this level of cost overrun. Name any government program that has been around for more than five years, and the odds are good it costs at least triple what its opponents originally said it would cost.
Maybe this time, a huge government program will be able to deliver its promised benefits. Anyone who has experienced the increasingly expensive, and rapidly deteriorating, services of the Post Office or Amtrak has good reason to be skeptical. No one who has dealt with Medicare can be eager to see the entire health care system shoveled into the drooling maw of such a bureaucracy. Those who support government health care because they don’t like their insurance companies should ponder the wisdom of handing their insurance over to an even bigger, infinitely less responsive entity. Once the government takes over health care, it will not be interested in criticism of its performance. The last thing any consumer should ever be willing to surrender is the ability to take his business elsewhere.
Maybe this time, Congress will keep the promises that restrain its future activities, such as extending coverage to illegal aliens, or paying for abortions. Whatever form these promises take when they emerge from Senate reconciliation, the American people should realize they are utterly meaningless – they have no power to bind future politicians. Today’s politicians can only pass along obligations to their successors, never discipline. The next Congress will be much more likely to pay attention to angry illegal alien groups brandishing lawsuits than disgruntled taxpayers who don’t want to see the cost of national health insurance skyrocket. The same goes for abortions. Once pro-lifers have become trapped in the same inescapable government-run health system as everyone else, their concerns can be safely ignored. What will they do in protest? Threaten to withdraw from the national health care system? If they try it, they’ll be holding their next prayer vigil for the unborn in a cell block. Only a foolish people trust their lives and souls to an entity defined by its ability to punish non-compliance with force.
Maybe this time, we can roll a titanic new government program across the fruited plains, without squashing the fruit. Among the most dangerous delusions of liberals and moderates is the belief they can unleash a blizzard of taxes and spending without radically altering other aspects of their lives… the belief they can blow the better part of $3 trillion taking over an industry, but everything else will stay exactly the same. They don’t appreciate how quickly the economic depression from huge taxes and industrial takeovers will destroy the income stream fueling the program, requiring increasingly high taxes in a vicious cycle resembling the collapse of a star into a black hole. They underestimate the damage to the national psyche that will result from hooking the middle class into a welfare program it can never escape. They’ve grown to take our fantastically advanced medical science for granted, and don’t realize how much less they’ll be expected to settle for, when doctors and corporations flee from a nationalized health care industry, the way many doctors currently refuse to accept Medicare. I don’t think enough people appreciate how far we have to fall, from the A+ health care we enjoy today, to the C- that will be good enough for government work.
Maybe this time, we’ll be able to reverse course in a couple of years, when we realize government-run health care was a horrible mistake. Everyone has known Social Security and Medicare are locked on a collision course with insolvency, and will drag everything we recognize as economics and government with them when we die… and everyone knows there is no way to reform them, as every attempt has ended in political destruction. Public education is a nightmare no one can wake up from, because the Democrats and teachers’ unions are ready to club them back into a coma when their eyelids flutter open. Reducing the rate of growth in the most absurd and inefficient spending programs is an epic battle, against frenzied legions of beneficiaries who are passionately uninterested in hearing about anyone else’s tax rates or unemployment levels… but maybe we’ll be able to reform or terminate this gigantic program, after reasoned discussion by the people’s tribunes on Capitol Hill.
Maybe this time, Americans will insist their Senators kill this deranged health-care scheme before it gets signed into law… instead of taking risks on a government that has never failed to disappoint them.
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The Constitution makes no provision for the government to threaten prison if a citizn does not give his money to a third party for unwanted services.
Revolution now.
flyfisher on November 8, 2009 at 1:15 PM
Great post, doc.
One of the best discussions of the Health Scare I’ve seen.
notagool on November 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM
Doc Zero: Your writing is extraordinarily penetrating and the use of the false hope of “maybe this time” is illuminating on this issue. You do good work and I look forward to reading it every time it’s posted.
Thank you.
ted c on November 8, 2009 at 1:20 PM
A warrior assumes that he is already dead, so he might as well fight.
Akzed on November 8, 2009 at 1:21 PM
Akzed wrote:
Ready to go.
noblejones on November 8, 2009 at 1:27 PM
Maybe this time Americans will wake the hell up and see that America is/WAS the best country in the world and their inactivity and indiffence is going to ruin it.
Maybe this time Americans will see what they are throwing away before they start to complain when the bad reality finally hits.
Maybe this time Americans will see there is NO SHAME to the lies Liberals will tell to grab all the power they can. Pelousy doesn’t need anymore $$…but she has now what that idiot husband cannot get her with all his millions. POWER!
It’s right out there to see, but a lot of peeps just don’t want to see it. Just like Mike Church plays at the beginning of every episode…Liberty is dying to THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE.
Gob on November 8, 2009 at 1:29 PM
Well, I finally figured out why the democrats call this “Universal Health Care” If you don’t buy heathcare they put you in the clink. And healthcare is free there!
What a plan!
conservnut on November 8, 2009 at 1:30 PM
Is it still too early to start talking about secession?
Rebar on November 8, 2009 at 1:32 PM
There was the Revolutionary War, the Civil War and now this.To bail us out after ten years all National Parks and Monuments will be sold to foreign governments and we will literally be citizens of the world because they will own us.Thanks to bo the mo-ron.
tim c on November 8, 2009 at 1:32 PM
Maybe this time, I am getting so pessimistic that even if I see it I won’t believe it.
fourdeucer on November 8, 2009 at 1:34 PM
Last night, the United States House of Representatives voted to rescind the constitution. They may have called it
health care, but the net result will be the same. The vote passed 220-215. Obama celebrated by proclaiming on twitter “This is History.” Yes it was,
He could have easily and more accurately proclaimed “Freedom is History.”
It’s rather ironic that the first black President may possibly sign into law a bill that will essentially make every man, woman and child the property of the US government.
Congress voted to mandate, by force of law, that every American
will purchase! Every American will obey! Every American will submit to their new “health care bill”
under penalty of law, punishable with fines and imprisonment.
Does that really sound like nothing more than good “health care” to you?
The 13th Amendment asserts that “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime
whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”
The 14th Amendment states: “No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property,…”
Slaves were deprived of both life and liberty. Slaves are also property.
Free people are neither property nor slaves. If you think you will remain free as a government health care surf, wait until you reach 65 and need a critical surgery and are informed you’re not worth the cost.
Wait until you are told you have cancer, but are instructed to wait 8 months or more for your treatment to begin. Wait until you are told your lifestyle choices are too risky for your own good and must be discontinued due to the cost or due to the burden placed on “the system.” Wait until you are forced to comply with scheduled checkups, therapies and medications. Or worse of all, forced to watch while others decide whether to pull your plug because you are now just too costly and worthless to keep alive.
It is a simple fact of life. He who makes the decisions, controls the money, and enforces the penalties
is the one in charge. He who must submit is not.
In truth, we cannot be both free men and women while at the same time having to bend our knee to beg for our very lives.
Yes, slavery was abolished 150 years ago, but, how much longer will it remain so.
JellyToast on November 8, 2009 at 1:36 PM
And there is a reason we don’t want illegal aliens having full access to American health care (ERs only have to stabilize you—and that’s been enough of a drain).
All it takes to be an illegal alien is to show up here. If by merely showing up here you can get the American taxpayers to pay for your boob job/sex change/arthroscopic knee surgery/name-your-favorite-elective-procedure-here, why bother with the health care in your own Third-world craphole?
What was it, 1/3 or 2/3 of AIDS patients in the UK were illegal immigrants from Africa?
Sekhmet on November 8, 2009 at 1:38 PM
Great post Doc…
… and for Nancy, this one’s for you.
Seven Percent Solution on November 8, 2009 at 1:41 PM
Obama just signed legislation last week to allow alien AID’s suffers into the country for the first time.
A nice coincidence.
Obama: bankrupting America, as planned.
profitsbeard on November 8, 2009 at 1:43 PM
Considering that the average government-run program overshoots budget extrapolations by 800 %, it would be no surprise that a health care program estimated to cost circa 900 billion will eventually cost 7.2 TRILLION! I’m just sayin’.
MaiDee on November 8, 2009 at 1:43 PM
Biggest Maybe in the history of mankind.
infidel4life on November 8, 2009 at 1:45 PM
Another great talk from Doctor Zero.
More powers!
BTW, I don’t think they’re bluffing, Doc. Dems are like demons. While they lie on so many things, they are always honest in their intention: TO DO MORE EVIL THINGS TO HARM PEOPLE.
TheAlamos on November 8, 2009 at 1:45 PM
Pelosi, Reid and their democrat ponzi-scheme co-conspirators in congress are the corrupt, moral equivalent of Bernard Madoff. Only THEIR ponzi-scheme is measured, not in billions ripped off, but in TRILLIONS stolen from future American generations. They are despicable frauds that have no conscience or common sense. It’s a damn shame however that unlike Madoff, they’ll never serve a day incarcerated.
bannedbyhuffpo on November 8, 2009 at 1:46 PM
Under the first term of Obama, all people, BLACK OR WHITE, will have become SLAVES OF THE GOVERNMENT… thanks to PukelosiCare.
TheAlamos on November 8, 2009 at 1:47 PM
Aviator on November 8, 2009 at 1:49 PM
No, in fact, it’s almost too late. If states start talking about it now maybe we can get it killed in the senate.
boomer on November 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM
Reducing the rate of growth in the most absurd and inefficient spending programs is an epic battle, against frenzied legions of beneficiaries who are passionately uninterested in hearing about anyone else’s tax rates or unemployment levels…
Exactly and the reason I thinkg the Democrats have been plotting for 40+ years to make as many people as possible dependant on the government. The only reprieve was when a Republican controlled Congress made the DemocRat Clinton sign welfare reform. To me it’s absolutely absurd and demaenaing to have 50% of the population not pay any taxes at all. everyone who benefits should pay even a small amount but, because they don’t pay they don’t give a damn about those of us who do pay. Welcome to Venezuela…This is exactly how Chavez did it!
CCRWM on November 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM
Exactly and the reason I thinkg the Democrats have been plotting for 40+ years to make as many people as possible dependant on the government. The only reprieve was when a Republican controlled Congress made the DemocRat Clinton sign welfare reform. To me it’s absolutely absurd and demaenaing to have 50% of the population not pay any taxes at all. everyone who benefits should pay even a small amount but, because they don’t pay they don’t give a damn about those of us who do pay. Welcome to Venezuela…This is exactly how Chavez did it!
CCRWM on November 8, 2009 at 1:51 PM
CCRWM on November 8, 2009 at 1:52 PM
+1000, essentially the future of this country is in the hands of a gang of criminal con-artists. America – take the bindfold off and wake the F up already!
infidel4life on November 8, 2009 at 1:53 PM
Well done as usual Dr. Zero.
Maybe this time….
…enough people on the Hill and in the streets of America will actually look at the facts on the ground and the history of overwhelming failure from anything run by our government and stop this socialist take over of our health care system.
Baxter Greene on November 8, 2009 at 1:56 PM
It’s too scary out there. People no longer want to wake up. “Hey, look at my new iPhone..”
ROCnPhilly on November 8, 2009 at 1:59 PM
Allah on his best day could never come close to that, excellent work.
echosyst on November 8, 2009 at 1:59 PM
This is not as far-fetched as some might think. Argentina drove itself into unsustainable debt thanks to social entitlement plans just like this. For a few decades they lived as the International Monetary Fund told them to live (since they were paying the bills). Eventually they did start selling their national parks, millions of acres of some of the most beautiful land in the world. They have never recovered.
neuquenguy on November 8, 2009 at 1:59 PM
Their senators will not pay any attention to them. We are going to see both our republican and democrat representatives seize this massive power grab that is right there in front of them.
In fact we have already seen house republicans sell out. The stupak amedendment was their way of putting Pelosi care that was effectively dead without it, right back on track, and so surely the democrats then passed it.
It was said on this forum yesterday that republicans were enabling passage of this bill. For a moment I thought this forum was actually beginning to see the light (albeit to late), but then they relented. An so the house republicans screwed us.
What makes you think that senate republicans will behave any differently? When will you all begin to see the light, that you are being sold out by these do nothing republicans? Sold to their democrat buddies and the special interest they all represent. They dont represent us, they stopped doing that more than a generation ago. They rule us.
paulsur on November 8, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Or how about some civil disobedience on a massive scale? (Or would that be criminal disobedience, now that they’re trying to criminalize failure to comply with their mandates?). Either way, their scheme won’t work if enough people refuse to go along.
AZCoyote on November 8, 2009 at 2:03 PM
+1
bill30097 on November 8, 2009 at 2:06 PM
Good by to all rinos and cinos that vote for this disaster. It will be your last term
grapeknutz on November 8, 2009 at 2:06 PM
Fantastic post, Doctor, and one of the best I’ve read so far.
Wellsy on November 8, 2009 at 2:07 PM
Sarah and Dr. Zero’s posts have me reinspired and rededicated to the next round, in the senate, and to next November’s crucial elections.
GaltBlvnAtty on November 8, 2009 at 2:08 PM
Who will you secede with? Who will be your leaders? Republicans? They sold you out last night with their vote on the stupak amendment. They had a moment in their grasp to sabotage the entire thing if they just all voted present.
But John Boehner came to democrats rescue, and salveage the whole thing by pushing the do nothings republicans to vote in favor of this amedment. Shameful!
paulsur on November 8, 2009 at 2:09 PM
Part of the system includes access to our bank accounts. Funds are sure to be be automatically withdrawn. Neat, huh? It’s a way for the gov’t to get to each of us personally. How do you refuse?
ROCnPhilly on November 8, 2009 at 2:10 PM
You were Judased by John Boehner last night, what do you intend for him?
paulsur on November 8, 2009 at 2:10 PM
Try to deal with cash as much as you can. If you must have a bank account keep a very small balance in it.
boomer on November 8, 2009 at 2:12 PM
Good by to all rinos and cinos that vote for this disaster. It will be your last term
You were Judased by John Boehner last night, what do you intend for him?
paulsur on November 8, 2009 at 2:10 PM
it means all of the traitors!!!
grapeknutz on November 8, 2009 at 2:16 PM
Some people will be just fine.
44% of Congress are millionnaires while 1% in the general population are!
Demoicrats occupy top 5 spots !!
MB4 on November 8, 2009 at 2:17 PM
Multiple accounts, investments, etc… makes that almost impossible.
I beleive the Galt Scenario will prove to be the best way in the end. But if this generation lacks the brains and intestinal fortitude to simply speak up, vote, or even pay attention to what’s going on in Washington, who’s gonna go Galt?
ROCnPhilly on November 8, 2009 at 2:18 PM
AMEN! RISE UP NOW or STFU forever!
Lisa on November 8, 2009 at 2:19 PM
Good luck asking your employer to pay you in cash.
neuquenguy on November 8, 2009 at 2:20 PM
I see shortages of doctors and nurses. That can’t be good news. Everyone may want to invest in funeral parlors and crematoriums. I’m going out the cheap way, no funeral, no obituary, and they can burn me at the stake. No need to sign a DNR (do not resuscitate), because that’s not an option for anyone unless you’re Obama or one of his clan members.
KentAllard on November 8, 2009 at 2:21 PM
How many you estimate will rise up?
neuquenguy on November 8, 2009 at 2:21 PM
I take it you get paid via electronic check? Just go and withdraw it when it hits if they won’t pay you buy check.
boomer on November 8, 2009 at 2:23 PM
Right as usual Dr. Zero. From your mouth to Voters ears.
portlandon on November 8, 2009 at 2:24 PM
I have met several doctors who moved here from Canada because they cannot longer make an adequate living there (and in same case cannot choose where to practice). The weird thing is that they all still think nationalized health care is a good thing. Go figure.
neuquenguy on November 8, 2009 at 2:24 PM
You think they are gonna let you have investments when they get done? HAH good luck on that one. Only their kiss-ups are gonna have money to invest.
boomer on November 8, 2009 at 2:24 PM
Problem payers will no doubt have their wages garnished. Then you won’t even see that money.
ROCnPhilly on November 8, 2009 at 2:26 PM
I agree on the bank thing and I do not think it is paranoia. These parasites need every dime they can get to make this happen. The House passage is just step one.
I believe they will take everything the average American has for complete and total control of this country.
Freedom, as we knew it, is on the way out.
ORconservative on November 8, 2009 at 2:28 PM
That they will do. But, how do you garnish a check that doesn’t exist? With higher taxes even more folks are gonna lose their jobs.
boomer on November 8, 2009 at 2:29 PM
The problem with most lib plans is that they are bad ideas that won’t work.
So the question becomes:
How much of our wealth and health will be destroyed before these gov’t takeover schemes are crushed under their own weight?
ROCnPhilly on November 8, 2009 at 2:32 PM
That’ll make “goin’ Galt” that much easier. And bring about the leviatan’s destruction that much more quickly.
ROCnPhilly on November 8, 2009 at 2:34 PM
How many called congressmen last week? How many will call their senators this week? Maybe 1%?
Who is SERIOUS about preserving their liberty? If you sit back and let events transpire without taking an active role, then what happens happens, and you should SHUT THE F**K UP with the complaints. Leaving comments on blogs AIN’T GETTING THE WORK OF DEMOCRACY DONE.
Gut check time, folks. Soul-searching time. Patriotism time! E-mail your friends, e-mail your family. Send them a contact list of Senators up for re-election in 2010. Get on the f**king phones! I made nearly 80 calls last week and only got busy signals twice. No wonder they think they can ignore us.
PD Quig on November 8, 2009 at 2:37 PM
If only we has a Zero in charge of the country instead of an “O.”
Mojave Mark on November 8, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Here’s the list of the nays and yays on last night’s bill.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll887.xml
If, like me, your representative is in the yay column, find some way to communicate your displeasure.
ROCnPhilly on November 8, 2009 at 2:42 PM
Battlestations!
Americannodash on November 8, 2009 at 2:52 PM
Maybe this time, rocks will fall upward.
OhioCoastie on November 8, 2009 at 2:55 PM
Dr. Z, always a Good read, but the money quote has to be:
Juno77 on November 8, 2009 at 2:57 PM
This country is a tinder box and Washington is playing with matches. No one wants to be Tank Man in Tian’anmen Square, but I think enough will rise up to stop the madness — the anger is palpable. I think the real question becomes how, not how many.
flyfisher on November 8, 2009 at 2:58 PM
How much longer will this be allowed?
agmartin on November 8, 2009 at 3:06 PM
Oy.
Postage rates for first class letters have risen at approximately the same pace as inflation over the last one hundred years. Independent evaluations show that the USPS has the same or better ontime delivery percentages as UPS and FedEx. Pricing is comparable and some case shockingly better for overnight mailings with the USPS as compared to UPS and FedEx.
Hate on the government all you want, but while the Post Office is experiencing a tough time right now it is far more competent than the urban legend complaints that get so much traffic here.
A handy comparison:
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/money/shopping/shopping-tips/fedex-vs-ups-vs-the-postal-service/overview/package-delivery-services-ov.htm
postaldog on November 8, 2009 at 3:07 PM
Has to be at least double in order to stop this madness.
Schadenfreude on November 8, 2009 at 3:07 PM
Yes it is. Wait until the dollar has been rendered worthless, which is the final disposition of these policies. It will be at that point that states will need to determine what their next course of action will be.
Freddy on November 8, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Paging Dr. John Galt… paging Dr. John Galt,
The lunatics are running amuck..
Juno77 on November 8, 2009 at 3:14 PM
This crap will be repealed. Think positively. The taxes, fees and B.S. kick in immediately, but the “plan” doesn’t until 2013. Lots of struggling Americans will resent what is being done to them. 2010… Wow. What a year it’s going to be!
Bubbye, Obama.
Key West Reader on November 8, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Reminds me of the Steve Martin bit from SNL. . .
Naaaaaah!
RedNewEnglander on November 8, 2009 at 3:20 PM
There are a lot of foolish people in this country then.
beachgirlusa on November 8, 2009 at 3:20 PM
Either the peep’s stop paying the Gov. to redistribute the wealth, i.e taxes, or we arm ourselves and go to DC and shed some blood! I can’t see any other way. Voting doesn’t work! Maybe that Russian guy was right, The USA will break up into 3 smaller countries.
Lisa on November 8, 2009 at 3:21 PM
I strongly agree.
johnnyU on November 8, 2009 at 3:22 PM
All the concerns expressed are true, but the author doesn’t mention the truly fundamental one: if this bill passes the Senate, the United States will have become a de jure dictatorship, well on its way to becoming one de facto.
Already preening with power from decades of Constitutional abuse, the Federal Government is moving toward establishing a totalitarian principle: You can be forced to buy a service in the name of what is good for you, and to avoid costs to your fellow citizen.
Once that’s accepted, it’s goodbye land of the semi-free.
JDPerren on November 8, 2009 at 3:28 PM
The light at the end of the tunnel is Biden’s Am Track coming full speed at us.
mmmm mmmm mmmm
IowaWoman on November 8, 2009 at 3:28 PM
Swine Flu? Yea and De Dems Fungus
Didn’t any of you catch Meet The Press today?
That show made it all clear. It is all good. The public will love it! We are paying for preexisting conditions, anyway. Madcow is just worried about the lack of payments for abortions or sex changes or something.
If anyone on these shows had a clue about demand analysis, resource allocation, production, economic growth or even arithmetic they couldn’t stomach how stupid they look. NBC is just holding back on the explanation as to why the fraud, waste and abuse in Medicare wasn’t just removed as a separate project. I just know The One explained it all to them.
Why build more med schools or facilities for the aging when you can follow the general Dem mold and just start another slop program for the losers and idiots they really represent. We get de mold, we get de debt den the Dems say fungus.
IlikedAUH2O on November 8, 2009 at 3:28 PM
The actual cost of health care reform is irrelevant. It will never, ever, ever be repaid. We crossed the debt Rubicon last October. We went from billions to trillions. Debt no longer has meaning. As the Doctor mentioned above, Social Security and Medicare are 107 Trillion dollars out of whack.
All we are discussing in charades is the default date.
patrick neid on November 8, 2009 at 3:29 PM
Democrats-sucking the life out of America.
justltl on November 8, 2009 at 3:38 PM
Somebody please kill that thing!
Lisa on November 8, 2009 at 3:46 PM
LOL! Any chance the GOP will run someone against Pelosi that might actually win???
deidre on November 8, 2009 at 3:46 PM
She coasted to an easy win.
AnninCA on November 8, 2009 at 3:49 PM
postaldog on November 8, 2009 at 3:07 PM
I would not believe word one from your source. Consumer Reports is Time or 60 Minutes for the mathmatically and mechanically handicapped.
Their appliance reviews, auto reviews and the rest are a living joke among anyone in the respective industries. They feed endless swill about such items as Asian cars or weird washing machines to the twinks who love to feel brilliant in their stinking Toyota vans or the fact that they paid $375 over list for some washer that their mag raved about. J. D. Powers and most other “hard” data sources roll their eyes. Your source does seem to understand their readers, however.
Show me them panning something the Birkenstock crowd likes.
USPS is centuries old. It is used, in my opinion, by its own competitiors where there is no money to be made. It is a necessary part of our society. Not just economy, society. I love the postal workers personally.
These posters go at general government activity and occasionally go overboard. They are usually right.
The only sacred cow around here is the military and defense industry. And there is not, and never has been, any waste or inefficiency there. So if you see a shot as the USPS just inject NBC, AIG or something else as that is what we should really be carping about.
IlikedAUH2O on November 8, 2009 at 4:05 PM
No insurance company ever put anybody in jail–except for those wild ferrets on Mutual of Omaha’s Wild Kingdom.
“Speaking of angry ferrets, we’ll wait here while Jim tries to get permission from Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden to have those rabid squirrels removed from his scrotum.”
[six months later:]
“Well, good news, folks; it looks like Jim has finally gotten permission from the Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research to have those squirrels removed from his scrotum. The Bad News: federal Best Practices guidelines insist that a boa constrictor be involved.”
Noel on November 8, 2009 at 4:06 PM
Better Dead than Red!
Chaz706 on November 8, 2009 at 4:09 PM
I’m 25 and I just got a job after 11 months of unemployment. I’m not liking what I’m seeing right about now. I’m 30 dollars away from broke waiting for my first paycheck.
And now this piece of crap passes… and the producers are thinking about going galt. I admire them. I really do. What’s going on is just plain wrong, and I wouldn’t blame them for not hiring more people this year, or cutting back on income this year, but it scares me because I have two choices in front of me:
I’m either going to have to live poor or suck it to the man and live poor.
Not much of a choice isn’t it?
I don’t like the whole idea, but I don’t have much of a choice.
I prefer the third option though: armed revolution. Gets it done quick. Bloody, but quick.
Chaz706 on November 8, 2009 at 4:17 PM
We can put the magnifying glass down now as far as the Congress is concerned. Stevie Wonder can see what’s really going on here. I hope you all saw on Hannity’s show last week that no bill or topic can be voted on or even discussed unless there is a certain percentage of the opposing party present. He showed a clip of Demons running out the back door to avoid voting on a certain bill the Republicans wanted & the demons totally ducked it. So now we know none of these stimulus bills and specifically this healthcare bill should have ever been a factor let alone voted on yesterday. ALL OUR REPRESENTATIVES HAD TO DO WAS IGNORE IT, THAT’S ALL! We have to call ALL our Senators and let them know, IF YOU SHOW UP, YOU’RE GONE!” We’re the majority & we’ve made our views about this bill perfectly clear, WE DON’T WANT ANY PART OF IT, PERIOD! We just found out about this stipulation but our reps have known it all along. There’s absolutely no excuse for what happened yesterday. Again I say, ALL congressmen & women have to go.
nondhimmie on November 8, 2009 at 4:22 PM
Remember also, as we learned with social security, the government has no legal obligation to provide the promised benefits. If the publilc plan you paid for finds itself unable or unwilling to provide any medical services you have no legal cause of action. In fact, you will still be required to pay premiums, even with no benefits, or go to jail.
tommyboy on November 8, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Everything you said, Doc! All of it.
Minorcan Maven on November 8, 2009 at 4:26 PM
I think secession is the only thing worth talking about. Asking Leftists to give up on the dream of government-run everything is to ask the impossible, primarily because the same Leftists you’d be asking to do so would be giving up their source of income. If I’m working for some government agency, my best opportunity for a promotion, a raise, increased responsibility and power are if my agency expands. In the face of incentives like that, why in the f*ck would I care about some 200+-year old document that tries to limit my ability to get those things? Am I going to want to explain to my wife and kids that we can’t go on vacation because James Madison said that the “general welfare” isn’t actually carte blanche to make people buy health insurance, but refers back to the enumerated powers?
Clearly, most of the career bureaucrats and would-be bureaucrats at the Federal level swing to the Left because that’s the only way they can get things that people in the private sector have to actually achieve something to get.
Unless there is a splitting of the country and new rules written to eliminate these incentives among the bureaucracy of the new “red state” Federal government, the same sh*t is just going to keep coming up.
To a certain extent, the ancient Athenians had it right when they assigned government posts by lot each year. Your number comes up, you take over a certain function for a year and give it up at the end of the year. Makes building a bureaucratic power base almost impossible.
venividivici on November 8, 2009 at 4:26 PM
Absolutely fabulous article. Kudos to the Dr.
royzer on November 8, 2009 at 4:27 PM
“Politically speaking, if I die, I die.”
___Sarah Palin
gary4205 on November 8, 2009 at 4:35 PM
You can forget secession to Texas if the state elects Kay Bailey Hutchison (the woman Rino) to governor. Kay voted for TARP and SCHIP in case someone forgot.
mobydutch on November 8, 2009 at 4:47 PM
OBAMA; SO MUCH WORSE THAN BUSH; BUSH SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN A THIRD TERM.
Cybergeezer on November 8, 2009 at 4:48 PM
WHO KNOWS HOW MANY TERMS OBAMA WILL GET???????????
mobydutch on November 8, 2009 at 4:50 PM
If the Constitution is irrelevant for Health Care, why should it apply to the election process?
mobydutch on November 8, 2009 at 4:51 PM
I’m done . . . we lost . . . Reagan is gone and was the last of his kind . . . this country will never be the shining city on a hill again . . . it will be the grey, depressing progressive/socialist “utopia” the left has wanted for 100 years.
Beck will keep ranting; Rush will keep entertaining; FNC will keep us agitated; but we have lost our country.
Levin’s book was right –it’s either LIberty or Tyranny (see Hayek’s Road to Serfdom) — the “leech” class is in the ascendency and has chosen tyranny (free-be’s and security over freedom)
There is no “Maybe this time . . .” and we know it. The American Century is past — best days gone — now we’ll know how it was to live in Rome after Marcus Aurelius.
rebuzz on November 8, 2009 at 4:58 PM
I swear, I will purposefully cancel my policy and go to jail if this goes through.
WashingtonsWake on November 8, 2009 at 5:08 PM
Bush set the stage for Obama by screwing up the last eight years of his administration.
SagebrushPuppet on November 8, 2009 at 5:22 PM
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