Report: Hasan attended same radical mosque as 9/11 hijackers; Update: “He was a typical fundamentalist Muslim”
posted at 6:35 pm on November 7, 2009 by Allahpundit
And so a personnel file already teeming with red flags gets another giant one. If you’re wondering how a British newspaper managed to track down this information when the U.S. military apparently couldn’t, you’re not alone. There’s no question now that we need congressional hearings into how the army missed the warning signs on Hasan, especially given the suspicions as to why they might have looked the other way. Chop chop, Messrs. Boehner and Cantor.
Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US soldiers in Texas, attended the controversial Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia, in 2001 at the same time as two of the September 11 terrorists, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt. His mother’s funeral was held there in May that year.
The preacher at the time was Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born Yemeni scholar who was banned from addressing a meeting in London by video link in August because he is accused of supporting attacks on British troops and backing terrorist organisations.
Hasan’s eyes “lit up” when he mentioned his deep respect for al-Awlaki’s teachings, according to a fellow Muslim officer at the Fort Hood base in Texas, the scene of Thursday’s horrific shooting spree.
Awlaki turned up in the 9/11 Commission report as someone whose connection to the hijackers might have been more than incidental. WaPo followed up last year and found that U.S. intelligence suspects him of having worked with Al Qaeda in the Gulf after leaving Virginia in 2002. Quote from a U.S. counterterrorism official: “There is good reason to believe Anwar Aulaqi has been involved in very serious terrorist activities since leaving the United States, including plotting attacks against America and our allies.”
More from the Telegraph piece via another Muslim soldier known as Richard, who was friends with Hasan and who talked about him to a mutual acquaintance, Kamran Pasha:
Richard had previously argued with Hasan when he said that he felt the “war on terror” was really a war against Islam, expressed anti-Jewish sentiments and defended suicide bombings.
“I asked Richard whether he believed that Hasan was motivated by religious radicalism in his murderous actions,” Mr Pasha said.
“Richard, with great sadness, said that he believed this was true. He also believed that psychological factors from Hasan’s job as an army psychiatrist added to his pathos. The news that he would be deployed overseas, to a war that he rejected, may have pushed him over the edge.
The Telegraph’s got a whole package on Hasan tonight, which I recommend. This piece — which includes details of a mysterious man seen with him for the first time just last week — is also worth reading, and provides the first hard details I’ve come across about him handing out Korans to the neighbors the night before the murders. Exit quotation from the hero of Fort Hood, uttered as her very first words after regaining consciousness: “Did anybody die?”
Update: Asra Nomani interviewed the congregants at the mosque he attended while living in Maryland. Quote: “He was a typical fundamentalist Muslim.”
But a closer look behind the doors of the mosque and inside the conversations between the engineer and the doctor reveal a more complex picture of a young first-generation American Muslim man living a life of dissonance between his identity as an American and his ideology as a Muslim who had accepted a literal, rigid interpretation of Islam, akin to the puritanical Wahhabi and Salafi interpretations of Islam that define the theology of militancy inside the Muslim world today, according to community members who knew Hasan.
“So many time I talked with him,” said Akhter, a community leader who is sort of like a mosque gadfly, challenging congregants to reject literal, rigid interpretations of Islam. “I was trying to modernize him. I tried my best. He used to hate America as a whole. He was more anti-American than American.”
Despite all the conversations, Akther said, “I couldn’t get through to him. He was a typical fundamentalist Muslim.”
Follow the link for details of Akhter’s exchange with Hasan about what “jihad” really means.
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While Islamic extremists are a tiny minority, they’re enough of a preponderance to make all Muslims suspect. That doesn’t mean civil rights should be violated, but the government needs to be more watchful than it’s been since Bush left office.
Bush was held ‘responsible’ for 9/11 by the Left, so I hold Obama and the rest of the Enemy Party responsible for the other day. The Dems have been coddling and protecting Muslims for nine years.
Radical Islamists are being true to their beliefs. The Enemy Party is just a bunch of traitors in my eyes.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 8:29 AM
DarkCurrent is all man, and he’s all mine, so back off!
AsianGirlInTights on November 8, 2009 at 8:33 AM
spot on!!
makes me ill of what they have done….
cmsinaz on November 8, 2009 at 8:41 AM
I can see it now. Congressional politically correct “where did we go wrong?” meetings and all because of some Muslim nut.
MaiDee on November 8, 2009 at 8:41 AM
Disgusting, isn’t it, how libs even in Congress have done their best to protect mass murderers. I’ll never forget Reid saying the war is lost, and doing his best to try stopping the Surge. Him and all the others of the Enemy Party.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 8:45 AM
copy that…2010 can’t come soon enough…they know we have weasels controlling the US now, they can do anything they want…
cmsinaz on November 8, 2009 at 8:51 AM
Thankfully, Reid’s best to stop the Surge wasn’t good enough.
So, now, with all the evidence coming in, can Matthew’s still say religion wasn’t a factor in Hasan’s motive? Can Hussein Obama still say we shouldn’t jump to (read: draw) conclusions?
These Dems are playing to the independents, struggling to hold on to what remains of their diminished margin. I don’t think that trick is going to work in the end. I think moderates are just cowards who go the way the wind is blowing, but this time the winds have changed. I bet more moderates and independents are going to turn against the Dems between now and the next election.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 8:52 AM
Agreed but it’s still coming.
What Hasan did the other day, and Obama’s tepid reaction to it, is like a trust fund waiting to mature. I see a blowback over this, against the Dems. Conservatives and Independents are going to be talking about this for a while, lasting longer as the matter further unfolds.
The Dems are going to eat sh*t for some time to come, no matter how much more shrill they become.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 8:55 AM
I hope Hasan’s murders are also charged as hate crimes. He killed women, including one who was pregnant, so that makes him sexist and a baby-killer. He killed at least one black, so that makes him a racist, unless you libs try counting him as an equal-opportunity murderer (which I expect).
And he’s a religious bigot, because he aimed at people who weren’t all Muslims. And if he killed another Moslem, then he’s basically a cannibal in a figurative sense, like how AQ and the Taliban massacre their own in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.
There’s no escape for any of you libs on this one. The guy you’re going to protect is a POS on every possible level.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 9:06 AM
Remind me again why we allow this fifth column of muslims in Western countries in the first place? It is a ploy of the liberal elite to further marginalize Christianity and to spead fear and terror in order to increase the police powers of the government. Both Bush and Obama continued this policy.
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The islamic religion is a concentrate of all the worst filth in the human soul: Islam prescribes polygamy, spousal abuse, and permits adultery (for men), bestiality, paedophilia, rape (of Christian women), theft (from Christians), war of aggression, plunder et cetera et cetera. It is a vulgar, barbaric and violent cult, which makes it all the more perverse that muslims get away with playing victims.
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Are there any benefits to the American or European peoples to harbor these muslims? Only to a severe case of masochism perhaps.
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Get rid of them before we have more incidents like this. Do as was done with the Japanese during WWII: Round them up and put them in internment camps. The difference was that the war with Japan was a war between nations, so it could end. The war with islam is a war of decency and civilization against depravity and barbarism – it will only end with the utter destruction of one or the other. Thus eventually the muslims will have to be expelled alltogether.
JC Silverberg on November 8, 2009 at 9:06 AM
from your lips to God’s ears
cmsinaz on November 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM
I agree with you on all but one point: Citizens who are Muslim can’t be touched unless they commit a crime. However, I’m all for deporting all Muslims from America who aren’t Citizens–revoke their visas and green cards and get them the hell out of our United States.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 9:16 AM
I sure hope so. The Enemy Party needs to be crushed at the ballot box at long last. They’ve hurt my family, my friends, and my country far too long.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 9:17 AM
ya got that right!
cmsinaz on November 8, 2009 at 9:19 AM
And I think I’ve had it with the libs who post here, too. Yesterday, rather than debate my argument, some lib called my mom a troll. And my mom doesn’t even post here, she doesn’t know this site even exists.
The libs want to defend this Hasan bastard who butchered in cold blood 13 people and an unborn baby (for a total of FOURTEEN dead), then let them try. I’m going to do my very best to smash every lib notion I can, both here and among people in my sphere. And those people will expand from there, I hope.
By the time the election comes, I wish to have at least a hundred other Citizens voting any ticket that isn’t Democrat.
The libs want a war? Well, they have one now. Let it begin here.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 9:25 AM
I’m big on evidence, and for this, I really haven’t seen any. Perhaps if there were massive, loud condemnations of this sort of behavior, I might believe they were a minority, but that “tiny minority” business is never really going to fly.
DrMagnolias on November 8, 2009 at 9:29 AM
Liam.
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Yes that would be the first step but it is not enough in order to ensure the security of the American people.
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Most interned Japanese during WWII were citizens – no one really cared about their constitutional rights, and they were so very much less of a threat than the muslims are now. Most of the Japanese liked America and behaved accordingly. None were convicted of sabotage as far as I know.
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The same cannot be said about muslims who by the very definition of being muslims are against us “infidels”. If they want to stay they should be required to publically renounce islam (and chose whatever other religion they want or no religion at all) and spit on the quran. That way they mark themselves for execution by their former co-muslims and thus prove themselves worthy of trust.
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Yes it’s not nice and it is not tolerant, but the truth seldom is nice and tolerant. The current political turmoil should atleast have taught the American people that much.
JC Silverberg on November 8, 2009 at 9:32 AM
Better wake up folks. I deal with muslims on a daily basis.
They rarely speak out against these crimes because deep down they have no problem with it. Just another group of infidels off the earth. If you are not a child of islam you are not worthy of existence. It’s not racist. It’s not alarmist. It’s their culture. If you had any idea what was being said at the local mosque your hair would stand on end or you could just stick your head back in the sand.
faol on November 8, 2009 at 9:34 AM
But those who are Citizens should enjoy every Constitutional guarantee and right as every other Citizen. I’m a Constructionist, so there’s no way I’m willing to take that away from Citizens who believe in Islam. They’re Citizens, and the Constitution is what it is. I believe in it wholeheartedly, and the Supreme Law of the Land trumps my emotions.
Until a crime is committed, a Moslem citizen cannot be held to a lower standard under the law.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 9:39 AM
Not only the liberals are to blame even if they are the main culprits. The so called American right is also partly to blame because of its overemphasis of individual rights rather than the rights of the community. Thus there is no unity against threats like this. My wife is a Peruvian-Chinese and we lived some time in Peru.
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In Peru people just wouldn’t stand for this kind of islamic supremacist behavior but get rid of the local troublemakers by outright massacre. How could I know that? Well, I infer it from experience because that is what they did with other troublemakers when they had to. Villages armed themselves against the Shining Path communist guerilla, which in its brutality far surpassed Al Queda, and did not balk even at high casualties.
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Sometimes I believe there is not too much but too little violence in America. A new civil war might ease tensions between the seemingly irreconcilable factions that make up America.
JC Silverberg on November 8, 2009 at 9:50 AM
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I have linked a few good video commentaries by Steve Emerson and Robert Spencer, as well as an IBD Editorial that is key. To my fellow HotAir’ers, must listen:
Have a blessed Sunday.
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papa_giorgio on November 8, 2009 at 9:57 AM
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Oh, Allah, thanks for this post! Good Stuff!
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papa_giorgio on November 8, 2009 at 9:58 AM
And you can bet Obama will coddle them as some of his own.
Cybergeezer on November 8, 2009 at 10:08 AM
I don’t believe in the constitution – it is a worthless piece of paper – has it provided any protection against liberal policies yet? Abortion?
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I believe in keeping my family and my community safe. The notions of bowing and worshiping a piece of paper at the expense of my family’s security – it’s both insane and immoral. When you wed your wife you vow to protect her and the children against all harm even at the cost of your own life. To claim the opposite on the authority of a piece of paper written by mason secularitsts who themselves comitted treason against their lawful King is beyond reason to me.
JC Silverberg on November 8, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Ah, but the Constitution is all about individual rights, that a Citizen have all liberty to believe socially, politically, and religiously as befits his or her conscience. That’s the truest form of liberty.
In the case of Peru against Shining Path, the people collectively chose, by their own personal conviction, to fight that evil group. But other places did I opposite, I imagine, because Shining Path was a problem for a long time. And they were armed. If a bunch of armed Moslems here in my town of Buffalo went on a rampage, you can bet you last dollar I’d go out to fight them until they were either defeated or I was killed trying.
Otherwise, I believe we have to go by our Constitution. The political Right is correct stressing personal liberty, because individuality is the most basic and valuable of rights. That is what really keeps us a free people. The Left has that groupthink bit going on, and we all (except them) know it’s a killer.
I personally want every Moslem non-citizen summarily deported poste haste. But Citizens who follow Islam can’t be touched without due process of law.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 10:13 AM
The Constitution is designed to give you liberty to do all you are doing. Without it, we’d be more F’d than we are now.
And that great Document has been perverted by liberalism, which has also messed up Marxism, of all things. Liberalism is the problem, not the Constitution.
Believe me, in my gut I’m on your side. But the Supreme Law of the Land is our final basis on which we can rest our liberties.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 10:16 AM
yes. absolutely. who covered for this jihadi ?
No surprise there. This Hassan was an AlQaeda sleeper. the authorities rounded up a number of them (Colorodo, NY ) in the last month or so. missed this one.
runner on November 8, 2009 at 10:21 AM
I’m wondering if the FBI is going to stop with a ‘lone shooter’ conclusion or keep probing deeper. Assuming Hussein Obama lets them dig further.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 10:26 AM
That’s just the problem. Our government, state and federal, knows very well what is being said. A group that claims to believe, says they believe, and takes action to violently overthrow the government of the United States. Last time I looked that makes Islam/Moslem/Muslim/pick-a-letter guilty of treason.
Funny how there’s no public outcry for trial and punishment.
Blacksmith8 on November 8, 2009 at 10:29 AM
They vote Democrat. There’s no way anyone in government or law enforcement is going to touch them until after something ugly happens.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 10:33 AM
This POS took the military’s money to attend medical school. There is no draft in this country, he CHOSE to enter. In return he received an extremely expensive education and the earning power it represented, in exchange for a predetermined length of military service, with all that it entailed, including the very real possibility of being deployed in another country, perhaps even in war zone. Being a psychiatrist, it wasn’t like he was going to be on the front line “killing muslims” or anywhere close to it.
docob on November 8, 2009 at 10:37 AM
They vote Democrat. There’s no way anyone in government or law enforcement is going to touch them until after something ugly happens.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 10:33 AM
Something ugly did happen. The silence is frightening.
faol on November 8, 2009 at 10:38 AM
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 10:16 AM
The Democrats are plotting to deny you your right to choose your own physician, yet you are worried that Islamic traitors might be treated unfairly as they plot against us.
After a few more years of Obama you won’t have your freedom anyways. Why not be dead at the hand of the enemy within also?
Really Right on November 8, 2009 at 10:38 AM
And for the latest response from CAIR on the most recent muslim extremist tragedy against American’s:
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Speaks volumes doesn’t it?
dthorny on November 8, 2009 at 10:41 AM
I know what the Dems are doing and have been fighting it every way I’m able.
I also believe there are Islamic traitors here, American citizens. But I don’t believe we can arbitrarily deny them rights under the Constitution.
On top, I believe wholeheartedly our government is doing nothing at all about those traitors, when it should be. The F*cking Bunch of Idiots (FBI) is failing its mission. It probably rather go after tasks like Ruby Ridge than truly defend our country.
Believe me, emotionally I’m your side.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 10:45 AM
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 10:45 AM
Agreed. Not a time for witch hunts, but it is time to shine a light on these roaches just as we do with skinheads,KKK and other scum of society.
faol on November 8, 2009 at 10:48 AM
And when the light is on them, we stomp them. We give no quarter and ask none.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 10:50 AM
If he expressed sympathy for the motives of Timothy McVeigh, attended a white-supremacist-leaning church, and was fascinated by Nazi paraphernalia, does anyone doubt that the Army, FBI and HSA might have taken notice?
iurockhead on November 8, 2009 at 11:02 AM
Oh no. CAIR came out with a statement condemning the senseless act yada yada yada and says Hasan was a crazy lunatic in essence, nothing to do with Islam of course.
The Muslims have proposed “crazy lone nutbar” and the government will run with that if it pleases the Muslims.
BL@KBIRD on November 8, 2009 at 11:09 AM
I expected that. And, yes, the gov’t and MSM will push that, seeking a cover-up to protect the POSUS and Enemy Party as a whole. Nothing like this happened for almost eight years under Bush, while Hussein Obama couldn’t continue the run for a single year.
I also wonder how deeply investigated was the church where that killer of an abortionist attended.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 11:15 AM
Clueless democrats still don’t get it:
Napolitano Warns Against Anti-Muslim Backlash
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/08/napolitano-warns-anti-muslim-backlash/
What kind of leadership is more concerned about the perpetrators than the victims.
Last I saw it was a radical muslim that is doing the killing.
So who does the democrat show concern for in protecting…..muslims.
Where is Napolitano’s and the US authorities measures and reassurances in protecting the American public from the radical muslims??????
Napalitano and the Obama administration have spent their time warning us about Americans asserting their opinions at town hall meetings and the evils of FOX news while the real extremist plan and carry out their attacks.
Now the Obama administration want to assure the muslim community that they will protect them…..WHAT ABOUT THE AMERICAN CITIZENS THAT ARE BEING MASSACRED.
Last I saw it was radical muslims doing the killing,not the other way around.
Hasan’s words and actions are reflected in the words and actions of hundreds of thousands of muslims.
The anti-war/anti-Americanism is heard in mosques around the world.
Stating that “un-believers” should be killed and our Soldiers should be killed for participating in the fight against terrorism is heard on a regular basis from imams and muslim leaders around the world.
If they don’t represent a large faction of Islam,then could Napolitano please enlighten us as to who they do represent.
Napolatino and the Obama administration have already failed in stopping this radical who had so many obvious signs of trouble that a 5th grader could see he was dangerous.
Now they are spending their time protecting and assuring the elements that have bred these murderous actions that they “have their backs” while not providing any leadership or direction in how they will stop this from happening again.
Radical muslim victims @ Fort Hood = 13 dead, over 30 wounded
Victims of the “supposed” muslim backlash = 0
“smart power” in action.
Baxter Greene on November 8, 2009 at 11:21 AM
I’m counting the unborn baby of one of the murdered as a 14th victim.
Astonishing, isn’t it, that DHS is fretting over the safety of Muslims? I wonder how many mosques are under police protection across the country.
The more I learn, the angrier I get at Washington, Dems, libs in general, and Moslems.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 11:25 AM
The muslims however breed prodigiously and will eventually overtake the rest of the population. In France the majority will be muslim alredy in 2050.
JC Silverberg on November 8, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Really? Lone Jihadis were falling out of the trees under Bush. And when they did they got treated like crazy loners just as Maj Hasan will. It is of no value to be hyper partisan and factional when a solid actual 3rd party enemy inhabits you nation. Bush could not praise Islam enough, don’t you remember? This is no game that can be voted out in 2012. You have poison in your system, nurtured and introduced by the leading members of both sides of American politics.
Your country is in peril and yahoo jingoistic partisanship is of not much value except to keep America weak and divided and in whose interest is that?
BL@KBIRD on November 8, 2009 at 11:58 AM
Right now the Army is kicked into full CYA mode! They are still trying to paint this incident as a man who “just snapped”. What a crock! The fact is that this man had made very clear what he believed and that he was as radical as any other nutbag who would kill innocent people while screaming “God is Great!!” The US military has got a real problem here. They are not really allowed to challeng or question political correctness and being the unique type of organization they are, they are extremely vulnerable to this type of incident. IMHO the military should not allow muslims to enlist or be officers. Islam has sufficiently demonstrated that it is a cult of violence. You don’t see “radical” christians blowing up innocent women and children and yelling “Praise Jesus” while doing it. One of my friends at work challenged me saying that “Not all muslims are terrorists”. I told him that is true, but almost all terrorists are muslim. I spent 20 years in the Navy and did four tours in the middle east and have absolutely no trust in muslims at all. I have seen their life style up close and personal and have a bit of insight into their psyche. I also don’t buy that most of them in the US are essentially peaceful people. My family is from Detroit, when 911 happened, my brothers got into fistfights with “American” muslims in Detroit celebrating it. The military is going to let this thing get worse and worse until something happens like a muslim nutcase blows up a nuclear reactor on an aircraft carrier and takes down 5,000 sailors with him. I really think that could happen. Right now, a sailor with exactly the same behaviour and beliefs is still going to be purposely overlooked because no military officer is going to be the one to speak out and be accused of being an anti-muslim bigot!
Bikerken on November 8, 2009 at 12:10 PM
What is your country, please? I’m curious.
You’re all too sadly right. The population is divided, and the political parties here far apart. Many of us want a third party but that’s hard to accomplish unless the people en masse support something new. We stopped being one nation under God to become two parties that drive what was once true patriotism–which didn’t include going gung-ho like many of us do.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 12:37 PM
Invest in tinfoil Dr. Paul
daesleeper on November 8, 2009 at 12:52 PM
Maybe Dar al-Heppashit mosque should be shuttered.
Jus sayin.
Akzed on November 8, 2009 at 1:00 PM
As with so many of these tragedies, it was so preventable, it didn’t have to happen. Damn.
The entire DoD better screen their Muslim members and piss on the damn PC police. This thing happens in the name of the”religion of peace” time and time again. Just how many more have to die?
Yakko77 on November 8, 2009 at 1:02 PM
And lock them up, too, incommunicado until they can be hanged.
I’m wondering if, after this, Seven Days in May might become a reality.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 1:14 PM
What if Fred Pehelps’ Westboro Baptist “Church” had produced two terrorist attacks, one the worst of all time, and the other the worst ever on a military base in the US? How long would it remain open?
Akzed on November 8, 2009 at 1:25 PM
Under Dem rule, probably before the victims got to the ER.
And I believe this is what they’re waiting for. If another abortionist is killed, the F*ing Bunch of Idiots will be shutting down Christian churches all over the country. Napolitano’s memo is already out there. It doesn’t matter if it has been rescinded–the idea now exists in the minds of some in law enforcement. Those jokers will, I believe cast off the Constitution and attack people who aren’t responsible the same way they make little old ladies take off their shoes at airports.
At the same time, they’ll ignore the REAL danger to the country. For ‘the good of the children’, of course. Or something like that.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 1:31 PM
Facts are in.
Crickets.
GrannyDee on November 8, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Plus one more: one of those murdered by Islamic hate was pregnant. That makes 14 dead in my book: a baby. So what the child wasn’t born yet? The mom decided to keep her child, as proven by the fact she didn’t have an abortion. So, he/she, though yet to be born, was murdered, too.
The MSM will never mention that mother-to-be was pregnant.
I hate the MSM and all libs right now no one could imagine.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 1:46 PM
“The Dems have been coddling and protecting Muslims for nine years.”
This is a bi-partisan problem. The Bush Administration followed the Islam correct path as well.
davod on November 8, 2009 at 1:58 PM
But not like the Dems. The Dems fought EVERY Bush incentive.
Reid said the war is lost. He and YOUR other f*cking Dems fought EVERY Bush effort to beat these murdering Islamic scum.
Don’t you DARE try drawing an equation here. I’m sick to death of your liberal lies and bullsh*t.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 2:06 PM
Bravo, Liam.
+1000.
GrannyDee on November 8, 2009 at 2:13 PM
Thank you, darling. But I don’t hold pride for the hate I’m feeling right now. I don’t want it; I would rather be accepting and more tranquil. But all that’s been posted here by the libf*cks, said by the POSUS, and ‘speculated’ in the MSM has me terribly incensed.
I learned, because of the libtards–one of whom yesterday attacked my mom rather than debate a point I made–that trying to talk to them is wasteful. They need to be removed from all places of influence. They need to be destroyed by any and all legal means possible.
The pregnant woman murdered because of Islamic hate, which the libs here and across America back and excuse at every turn, was Pvt. Francheska Velez, of Chicago, Illinois–of Hussein Obama’s home town.
She was 21 years old.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Liam, my answer to your post under OOTW:
I know exactly what you mean, Liam, about feeling as you do. My anger and frustration toward the liberals, Hussein, and the MSM are almost overwhelming at times. There is no talking with them or reasoning with them. Their minds are turned totally toward corruption and evil, as are their hearts.
Thanks for your comments, Liam. I appreciate them.
GrannyDee on November 8, 2009 at 2:35 PM
The pleasure has been mine! I’m full of piss and vinegar right now, which I don’t want.
Thanks to you, I’m a bit calmed again. But if some librat comes against me in the next month…
~sends a soft kiss to your cheek~
Thanks, hon! You made my day!
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 2:40 PM
And a soft kiss back at ya, Liam. Based on other comments here and on OOTW, we’re definitely not alone in our outrage.
With each passing day and with more and more evidence mounting of the evil coming from the White House and Congress, I cry out in my heart, “How much longer, Lord, must we endure this in our beloved country?”
Some days it terrifies me to think that if these people are not stopped by those of us who still cherish our freedoms, in another year (or perhaps less) the United States will cease to exist as we once knew it. I know the election of b-Hussein-o was permitted by God for his reasons, but the pain and sorrow I feel is…at times…crushing my heart and soul.
Whoever would have thought we would live to see and endure what is happening to us in 11 short months?
I don’t post often, but I lurk almost daily to read comments such as yours, Liam, because it gives me hope and courage to know I am not alone.
Here’s an extra soft kiss to keep you going. Stay strong.
GrannyDee on November 8, 2009 at 3:01 PM
Anwar al-Awlaki is also the Muslim chaplain at George Washington University, where I imagine he is indoctrinating the Muslim student body there.
It’s worth noting that the Saudis have a vigorous program of bringing Wahhabi imams into America to staff mosques and radicalize them. Go follow the money that brought al-Awlaki to America and you will discover who is promoting the jihad.
Tantor on November 8, 2009 at 3:11 PM
If someone has already posted this, my apologies.
From Fox News:
New York-Based Radical Muslim Hails Fort Hood Massacre
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572998,00.html
New York-Based Muslim’s Web Site Calls for God to ‘Kill the Jews’
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,565365,00.html
I am too angry to comments on these articles.
GrannyDee on November 8, 2009 at 3:20 PM
No problem
these places are marked
Sonosam on November 8, 2009 at 3:32 PM
Lib Jews have alot of blame in this
I never could understand how they vote for the party that red carpets these fckng animals
Sonosam on November 8, 2009 at 3:35 PM
I agree! The islam hugging is a thoroughly bipartisan affair. The fact that Bush started two wars in islamic countries is not because he is agaisnt islam, but because he is pro the police state, and in favor of the same demoralization of the armed forces as was the result of Vietnam. The Dems and Repubs is essentially one masonic party that squabbles over incidentals – theya re both in favor of a secularist mulitcultural and anti-christian society with broad police powers and weak citizens. If they are paid by the government lobbyists or the corporate lobbyists is rather irrelevant to msot issues. Isn’t it strange that a supposedly super-capitalist countriy like America essentially has the same policy as socialist Sweden (from where I originally hail)? Mass immigration of low skilled people with great preference for muslims who can be trusted to further depress Christian influence and justify more police powers and scare the citizens into worshipping the state? For that matter the policy is the same in Britain from where my father hails. Or in France where my brother-in-law was born. THE-ONE-WORLD-PARTY is already here. Isn’t it also curious that at the supposed apex of masonry in America we find the Shriners who worship their version of Allah and wear the red fez hat which symolizes the originally white hat of the muslims that were dipped in Christian blood?
JC Silverberg on November 8, 2009 at 4:07 PM
“I agree! The islam hugging is a thoroughly bipartisan affair. The fact that Bush started two wars in islamic countries is not because he is agaisnt islam, but because he is pro the police state, and in favor of the same demoralization of the armed forces as was the result of Vietnam.”
I take it you wrote the above from the bowels of your undeground bunker?
davod on November 8, 2009 at 4:15 PM
davod
No from the top of my ivory tower… /sarc
JC Silverberg on November 8, 2009 at 4:16 PM
Liam and others with head in sand.
You can rant all you like, but this Bush supporter still says his administration took a politically correct approach to the problems of Islam inside the USA.
davod on November 8, 2009 at 4:19 PM
“No from the top of my ivory tower… /sarc”
Forgive me. For a moment I forgot about the real enablers.
davod on November 8, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Remember, all, that jihadists and leftists have a common enemy. That’s dingbat leftists cover for jihadists whenever they can.
This explains why they are saying “Nobody knows what drove him………….”
Really Right on November 8, 2009 at 4:46 PM
How can I put this politely so I’m not misudnerstood…
FUCK you, lib.
Don’t you ever tell me I have my head in the sand. YOU supported Bush but did squat-nothing to keep this country safer, you self-aggrandizing libfuck trying to play at being conservative.
If Bush failed as you’re saying, then you never truly supported Bush. You’re just another libfucktroll playing at being a conservative.
Again, in case I missed being clear: fuck you and all you other libfucking trolls.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 5:38 PM
How can I put this politely so I’m not misudnerstood…
F you, lib.
Don’t you ever tell me I have my head in the sand. YOU supported Bush but did squat-nothing to keep this country safer, you self-aggrandizing libf*ck trying to play at being conservative.
If Bush failed as you’re saying, then you never truly supported Bush. You’re just another libf*cktroll playing at being a conservative.
Again, in case I missed being clear: f*ck you and all you other libf*cking trolls.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 5:40 PM
More kisses back at you!
This is all meant to be, and things will work out as we hope in the end. Even better, really, for goodness comes from He who is above all things. The earth is His footstool.
Man, and libs in particular, are about to face a terrible rude awakening. Then they’ll try whe ‘who, me?’ defense. Which won’t save them. Another shock, to be sure.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 5:51 PM
Bush was an idiot not because he was too far from the liberals, but because he was actually one of them. Did he sponsor a constitutional amendment to ban abortion? No. Did he support a constitutional amendmend to ban no-fault divorce? No. Did he runa budgetary surplus? No. Did he reverse the WTO free trade agreements with China when it was obvious that China cheated by selling substandard products and using slave labor? No. Did he reverse the trend of islamification of America? No, he helped it along. Did he neutralize Al Queda? No. Did he neutralize the threatening Iranian nuke program? No. Did he neutralize the threatening North Korean regime that is sending misslies against American allies? No. Did he support family farming instead of polluting agribusiness? No. On the contrary. He tried to shove GMOs and hormone beef down everyones throats, pissing off America’s closes allies in the EU.
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I really can’t see anything good that he did apart from the partia-birth-abortion ban that was later circumvented anyway. I am not saying that the democrats would have been better (as we see now they are worse) but that doesn’t make Bush a good conservative president, just an incrementalist liberal of the McCain type.
JC Silverberg on November 8, 2009 at 5:55 PM
I am a little old to be a cheerleader for ya but I’ll try–go liam go
flyoverboy on November 8, 2009 at 6:18 PM
Every time I see the “I supported Bush, but” logo, I’m convinced there’s a libf*cktroll making the post.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 6:24 PM
Sounds good to me…
http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/terrorwar/treason_punishable_by_dea.php
Lockstein13 on November 8, 2009 at 6:26 PM
This convert, Yousef al-khattab , Is another useless mentally ill muslim wannabe that gets off dressing up like Rambo and shooting off his mouth. Like most of them, he has balls the size of a pissant. He should come up missing.
flyoverboy on November 8, 2009 at 6:29 PM
Btw,there are 48 Muslim soldiers in Fort Hood,
if,I heard right!!
canopfor on November 8, 2009 at 6:45 PM
No way this asshole had PTSD.You, Enoxo, no nothing about PTSD. This guy was just a radical,sexually frustrated,muslim REMF. His biggest stressor was that someone would catch him makin love to ol mother thumb and her four daughters
flyoverboy on November 8, 2009 at 6:46 PM
sooner the better.
flyoverboy on November 8, 2009 at 6:56 PM
I believe in choice here: choose your own caliber.
Liam on November 8, 2009 at 7:05 PM
He was an Al Qaeda sleeper posing as a soldier, just like the Al Qaeda sleeper posing as a police officer that murdered 5 British soldiers in Helmand a few days before Ft Hood.
uptight on November 8, 2009 at 7:33 PM
* In order to expose whatever imams are saying in mosques, it seems it should be possible for some of the more resourceful Americans to plant audio and video devices in them. After having accumulated numerous recordings, such resourceful men could begin circulating the recordings on the Internet in order to expose whatever wickedness is being spoken by various imams.
* It seems that the Americans’ “federal” government may be weakening in its greatness and power, or on course to weaken. One can perhaps foresee a day when it has become so weak that an American state or city can remove dangerous muslims from among the people. The Americans in state and city governments can consider laying plans.
* Nor does it seem the Americans must remain altogether dependent on their state and city governments to remove dangerous muslims. But this is a matter for great prudence.
* Some American commentators and political officials raise the possibility of a “backlash” against Islam. Others point to a nearly total lack of any such “backlash.” Almost no commentator or official of either sort, however, seems to have challenged the opinion that “backlashing” is simply bad. However, it seems that few things are simply bad or simply good.
Kralizec on November 8, 2009 at 8:09 PM
Matters internal to a relatively well-ordered nation are probably best handled much more carefully than these writers say.
Kralizec on November 8, 2009 at 8:19 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/07/george-w-bush-secretly-visits-fort-hood-victims/
I don’t know if anyone else posted this but I just saw it and it cheered my heart. I hope it helps others too.
Thank you President Bush and Laura Bush for helping the troops. May God Bless you and walk with you every minute of every day.
journeyintothewhirlwind on November 8, 2009 at 8:23 PM
How vulgar. You are deifying that liberal interventionist Bush. He is the one that sent American troops on foreign misadventures. American troops should stay in America or go where they are invited to go, nowhere else. Cut the defense budget in half and spend the money on getting rid of the muslim terrorists in America instead. And when that’s done use the money on health care.
JC Silverberg on November 8, 2009 at 8:32 PM
308 .45 223 12 ga expander hp– of course all american in choice. Depends on range. Should have .50 as most of these woman beaters stay along ways off when men are around.
flyoverboy on November 8, 2009 at 8:46 PM
Probably right . But there seem to be a rather large contingent of numbnuts in the world that cannot hear you UNTIL they have their asses royaly kicked.
flyoverboy on November 8, 2009 at 9:01 PM
I just saw this on a local news page…
Pentagon: Alleged Gunman, Maj. Hasan, Was To Deploy With Madison-based 467th Medical Detachment. More Details
The unit just got down to Ft. Hood last Wednesday, a unit of 43 soldiers and Hasan killed 2 and injured 6.
I’m at a lost for words as to what I want to see done to Hasan, and Pray for the families who lost and have injured family members.
WhoU4 on November 8, 2009 at 9:04 PM
See no evil and watch for righty vet terrorists
Did one of our masters here have a crush on Kirster Powers?
Well, she sparkled on Fox News Sunday. When discussing PC and the prevention of complaints and the possible investigation of the shooter in this case, she added that there are 1,000 Muslims in the armed services.
OMG! And are they all talking like that?
Better to do nothing. Somebody may notice the stuff floating around in the White House and their remarks. We start investigating and who knows what we will find.
Good thing we know all about our Prez.
IlikedAUH2O on November 8, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Np backlash
The MSM will not let it happen.
The One will order the troops on us if there is a hint of it.
IlikedAUH2O on November 8, 2009 at 9:47 PM
North and east of your northeast.
BL@KBIRD on November 8, 2009 at 10:39 PM
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