Report: Hasan attended same radical mosque as 9/11 hijackers; Update: “He was a typical fundamentalist Muslim”
posted at 6:35 pm on November 7, 2009 by Allahpundit
And so a personnel file already teeming with red flags gets another giant one. If you’re wondering how a British newspaper managed to track down this information when the U.S. military apparently couldn’t, you’re not alone. There’s no question now that we need congressional hearings into how the army missed the warning signs on Hasan, especially given the suspicions as to why they might have looked the other way. Chop chop, Messrs. Boehner and Cantor.
Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US soldiers in Texas, attended the controversial Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia, in 2001 at the same time as two of the September 11 terrorists, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt. His mother’s funeral was held there in May that year.
The preacher at the time was Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born Yemeni scholar who was banned from addressing a meeting in London by video link in August because he is accused of supporting attacks on British troops and backing terrorist organisations.
Hasan’s eyes “lit up” when he mentioned his deep respect for al-Awlaki’s teachings, according to a fellow Muslim officer at the Fort Hood base in Texas, the scene of Thursday’s horrific shooting spree.
Awlaki turned up in the 9/11 Commission report as someone whose connection to the hijackers might have been more than incidental. WaPo followed up last year and found that U.S. intelligence suspects him of having worked with Al Qaeda in the Gulf after leaving Virginia in 2002. Quote from a U.S. counterterrorism official: “There is good reason to believe Anwar Aulaqi has been involved in very serious terrorist activities since leaving the United States, including plotting attacks against America and our allies.”
More from the Telegraph piece via another Muslim soldier known as Richard, who was friends with Hasan and who talked about him to a mutual acquaintance, Kamran Pasha:
Richard had previously argued with Hasan when he said that he felt the “war on terror” was really a war against Islam, expressed anti-Jewish sentiments and defended suicide bombings.
“I asked Richard whether he believed that Hasan was motivated by religious radicalism in his murderous actions,” Mr Pasha said.
“Richard, with great sadness, said that he believed this was true. He also believed that psychological factors from Hasan’s job as an army psychiatrist added to his pathos. The news that he would be deployed overseas, to a war that he rejected, may have pushed him over the edge.
The Telegraph’s got a whole package on Hasan tonight, which I recommend. This piece — which includes details of a mysterious man seen with him for the first time just last week — is also worth reading, and provides the first hard details I’ve come across about him handing out Korans to the neighbors the night before the murders. Exit quotation from the hero of Fort Hood, uttered as her very first words after regaining consciousness: “Did anybody die?”
Update: Asra Nomani interviewed the congregants at the mosque he attended while living in Maryland. Quote: “He was a typical fundamentalist Muslim.”
But a closer look behind the doors of the mosque and inside the conversations between the engineer and the doctor reveal a more complex picture of a young first-generation American Muslim man living a life of dissonance between his identity as an American and his ideology as a Muslim who had accepted a literal, rigid interpretation of Islam, akin to the puritanical Wahhabi and Salafi interpretations of Islam that define the theology of militancy inside the Muslim world today, according to community members who knew Hasan.
“So many time I talked with him,” said Akhter, a community leader who is sort of like a mosque gadfly, challenging congregants to reject literal, rigid interpretations of Islam. “I was trying to modernize him. I tried my best. He used to hate America as a whole. He was more anti-American than American.”
Despite all the conversations, Akther said, “I couldn’t get through to him. He was a typical fundamentalist Muslim.”
Follow the link for details of Akhter’s exchange with Hasan about what “jihad” really means.










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Army Chief of Staff (MacArthur’s Old Job) Is Worried About … Guess What?
I reference MacArthur in the headline because of the famous exchange between MacArthur and FDR after MacArthur, then Army Chief of Staff, learned that FDR was cutting the army budget to fund New Deal programs.
MacArthur said to Roosevelt, “When we lose the next war and an American boy is writhing in pain in the mud with a Japanese bayonet in his belly, I want the last words that he spits out in the form of a curse to be not against Douglas MacArthur but against Franklin Roosevelt.” FDR was enraged, and he said, “Never speak to the President of the United States that way.” And MacArthur offered to resign, but Roosevelt brightened and said, “No, no, Douglas, we must get together on this.”
That was a long time ago.
In the wake of the “Allahu Akbar” slaughter of infidels at Ft. Hood (there I go again, “jumping to conclusions”), today’s Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey is worried but not so much, to paraphrase MacArthur, about American boys writhing in pain in the mud with Muslim (or should I say “psychiatric”?) bullets in their bellies. With some 3,500 Muslims in the in the US armed forces, Gen. Casey is concerned about … anti-Muslim backlash.
“I would say I fear it,” General George Casey, US Army chief of staff, told reporters at Fort Hood.
Casey said he had told leaders not to “rush to judgment or speculate until the investigation comes out.
“I do worry slightly about a potential backlash and we have to be all concerned about that.”
Threat levels have not been raised at US bases, and Gen. Casey has made no mention of being even “slightly” worried about copycat attacks. (I wonder if the Ft. Hood attack was in any way inspired by the Helmand Province attack by an Afghan National Policeman that left five British troops dead and British troops “mentoring” the ANP “on edge.”)
WHAT IS WRONG WITH GEN. CASEY?????????
Answer: The same thing that is wrong with Gens. McChrystal, Petraeus, etc. They are all zealots of political correctness. Otherwise, they would never have been promoted in this man’s — I mean, this person’s — army.
Where are the Washingtons, the Grants, the Shermans, the MacArthurs, the Pattons?
Gone With the Wind.
MB4 on November 7, 2009 at 7:37 PM
Barry – “…now let’s not rush to judgment here….” etc etc…oh, and Bush visiting the troops at Fort Hood before Barry or any of his team….priceless…God bless our troops, God help us all….
Ozprey on November 7, 2009 at 7:38 PM
Sorry, I was addressing the world at large.
BL@KBIRD on November 7, 2009 at 7:38 PM
Barry can bend over at the Prayer-Rug summit.
Geochelone on November 7, 2009 at 7:38 PM
Muslim is not on the official Opressor Group lists, the Military is. As long as this is true, the left is gonna keep avoiding seeing the obvious.
Dark Eden on November 7, 2009 at 7:39 PM
But the FBI ruled out terrorism 1 hour after the attacks, glad they didn’t rush to judgment.
Interestingly this same Iman was in Colorado, any recent plots from people living there? Like a certain Afghani arrested in September.
koolbrease on November 7, 2009 at 7:40 PM
SCOREBOARD for Bush.
8 years no homeland terror attacks.
10 months for Obama.
We are in trouble with this president.
dthorny on November 7, 2009 at 7:40 PM
Being baffled by bull**** has never been achieved on such a stellar and grand scale as now. How could it get better?
flyoverboy on November 7, 2009 at 7:41 PM
NOW I AM REALLY FUMING.
Calling Chrissy (Tweety) Matthews–your PC-Police Days are over. We are coming.
Geochelone on November 7, 2009 at 7:43 PM
I wish the docs would wake this POS up from his drug induced coma!!
Doc: I am sorry but you are paralyzed from the neck down & can only survive on a respirator.
Hasan: What? Paralyzed? How did this happen??
Doc: A WOMAN police officer shot you.
We will now be returning you to your drug induced coma…
Ladywolfnl on November 7, 2009 at 7:44 PM
Allah, Please Lets not jump to Conclusions/ SARC.
Dr Evil on November 7, 2009 at 7:44 PM
Again, Bush or Cheney needs to publicly call thsi terrorism.
Quickly.
artist on November 7, 2009 at 7:46 PM
And place bacon blankets on him before he goes comatose.
dthorny on November 7, 2009 at 7:47 PM
I hope this SOB’s wheelchair bumps on the gallows steps.
But, of course, never to happen. Maybe Omama will send him to the South Sea Islands.
Lincoln Cadillac on November 7, 2009 at 7:48 PM
Yes it is good to jump to conclusions because eventually you will be right and damn those that are affected negatively when you are wrong.
/
CWforFreedom on November 7, 2009 at 7:49 PM
Next thing we will find out is that he took 767 flying lessons (take off only) and that he apprenticed as Bin Ladens chauffeur and food taster. Shheeesh.
Geochelone on November 7, 2009 at 7:50 PM
After visiting the wounded…..something Barry hasn’t done.
Ozprey on November 7, 2009 at 7:50 PM
Ya know, I’ve had my suspicions about radical Islimists infiltrating our military and police. And our government. This just lends credence to my suspicions.
In this topsy-turvy PC climate where patriots are vilified and villians are countenanced and coddled, it’s far too easy for evil people to gain access to and pervert our most critical institutions.
starboardhelm on November 7, 2009 at 7:50 PM
UNPLUG IT
flyoverboy on November 7, 2009 at 7:50 PM
If Hasan wakes up and commits suicide, will it be an honor killing ?
macncheez on November 7, 2009 at 7:52 PM
Wake up? Have him risk taking a verbal crap on a carefully fabricated cover story for Islam ? He will never wake up.
BL@KBIRD on November 7, 2009 at 7:53 PM
Oops. Looks like somebody tripped over the cord.
boomer on November 7, 2009 at 7:53 PM
Heck these guys even had a trial and you wouldn’t have even given them that.
CWforFreedom on November 7, 2009 at 7:53 PM
That’s the same mosque that spawned the convicted would-be Bush assasin, AhmedOmar Abu Ali.
That mosque should be treated as a terrorist training camp and razed to the ground.
Terp Mole on November 7, 2009 at 7:54 PM
maybe it is time for some ol fashioned kickass and take names,forget pc, in fact screw it, let some ol fashioned common sense prevail.
flyoverboy on November 7, 2009 at 7:55 PM
Roger that. No prob BB.
fogw on November 7, 2009 at 7:55 PM
I am trying to keep an open mind. All I know is that Hasan was Muslim, attended a mosque that was attended by three of the 9/11 hijackers, had been making anti-American threats for at least several months for which he was under investigation by the FBI, and planned this attack for at least two weeks.
But for all I know, this could have been a result of Hasan being unfairly stopped and questioned by police just because he is a Muslim who ran a stop light. Or, maybe this could be a result of Hasan developing PTSD from stepping on chewing gum left on the sidewalk by some anti-Islamic bigot. Or, maybe Hasan simply snapped peas that morning.
Anything is possible. We’ll never really know.
Loxodonta on November 7, 2009 at 7:59 PM
I believe there is a ROE in place for Mosques already. It’s a free zone, too sacred even to look at. Muslims frown if you look at a mosque. Can’t have them frowning with a purple fingered election on the horizon somewhere.
BL@KBIRD on November 7, 2009 at 7:59 PM
O man, his carbon footprint is way too high. All that CO2 and everything. And he is using too much electricity. I hope he is on one of those hybrid solar powered ventilators. If not pull the feed tube and bring in the Death Panel and save the Polar Bears.
Geochelone on November 7, 2009 at 8:00 PM
I thought I read an official investigation was never opened.
boomer on November 7, 2009 at 8:00 PM
It’s not the Juice, it’s the Moose.
Coronagold on November 7, 2009 at 8:01 PM
I do wonder who that mysterious visitor was? Probably a militant Jehovah Witness no doubt/SARC.
Dr Evil on November 7, 2009 at 8:02 PM
Sgt. Kim Munley:
Mighty Mouse, hip hip hooray!!
That’s her nickname according to the Telegraph article, by the way.
gina4 on November 7, 2009 at 8:04 PM
OK we don’t want to jump to any conclusions but is hopping and skipping allowed. Leaping is like jumping so that is disallowed. What about moseying to conclusions?
Anyone?
Geochelone on November 7, 2009 at 8:05 PM
Geochelone on November 7, 2009 at 8:00 PM
Hahahahahaha, good one!
gina4 on November 7, 2009 at 8:06 PM
Stupid political correctness will be the death of us all.
We need anti-PC rallies.
DethMetalCookieMonst on November 7, 2009 at 8:06 PM
At this point, I hardly think it’s “jumping” to conclusions. There’s more than enough reason to suspect, or even conclude, that he’s a jihadist. Now, lets try him in court, for say, 10 minutes, then take him out back and…… well, being a Christian woman, I can only say “let him meet our Maker”.
gina4 on November 7, 2009 at 8:09 PM
Political correctness is the poison that will kill America
MikeA on November 7, 2009 at 8:10 PM
For once in my life, I think I agree with AP more than Ed on this issue.
deidre on November 7, 2009 at 8:11 PM
The security services (CIA, et al) need a “liquidate terrorists” department to get rid of jihadist maniacs …like Hasan’s preacher pal al-Awlaki.
Scum who openly declare their allegiance to the enemy: Imperialistic Islam.
The Brits did it after WW II to known, heinous Nazi killers in Europe who they could not deal with otherwise.
Letting these lunatics merely go off …to continue their terrorism elsewhere …is suicidal stupidity.
As with the released Gitmo terrorists who have returned to the Jihad.
(BTW- When is there going to be a Congressional investigation into the ciminal negligence and malfeasance in office of those in the government who promoted the freeing of known terrorists… who then returned to TERROR? Done to placate the demented deity known as P.C.)
Until we start getting rid of our self-declared terroristic enemies, we will continue to pussyfoot toward own own oblivion.
profitsbeard on November 7, 2009 at 8:11 PM
Sgt. Kim Munley:
Thank you. But next time try to remember, head shots.
MikeA on November 7, 2009 at 8:12 PM
Its not political correctness anymore.
Its plain and simple evil-appeasement now
macncheez on November 7, 2009 at 8:12 PM
Fun fact about Bush assassination conspirator Ahmed Omar Abu Ali who attended Major Hasan’s Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, VA.
mmm, mmm, mmm… Nidal Malik Hasan
Terp Mole on November 7, 2009 at 8:13 PM
I don’t think it is the speed that is a problem. It will be too unpleasant to come to the correct conclusion so a new one is being created right now.
BL@KBIRD on November 7, 2009 at 8:15 PM
PC kills.
Terrye on November 7, 2009 at 8:16 PM
Maxpower on November 7, 2009 at 8:16 PM
You can do anything your little heart desires, sweetie.
Loxodonta on November 7, 2009 at 8:19 PM
Well the best minds at the Ministry of Information are working on the problem. They are under the direct supervision of IngSoc so we can expect a full
disclosurefabrication of the, er, events, which a few years from now will be expunged from the record–even those most of it was hewn out of thin air from the get go.Geochelone on November 7, 2009 at 8:20 PM
This is not accurate and never was. There have been several jihadists attacks in the United States following 911. They may not have been commited by organized al qaeda terrorist cells, but that misses the point entirely. If we continue to seperate individual jihadist attacks from organized terrorist attacks, then we are completely not undertanding the enemy that is committing war upon us, and we shall surely lose in the end.
paulsur on November 7, 2009 at 8:20 PM
Will Obama claim OUR military acted stupidly?
We need George Patton’s attitude to reduce this PC crap.
God bless this military woman and her health and may this Hasan turd rot in hell.
dthorny on November 7, 2009 at 8:21 PM
It was just a preliminary investigation. They were waiting for some carnage first before opening the official investigation.
Loxodonta on November 7, 2009 at 8:21 PM
We need to stop this idiocy of “fearing to appear discriminatory”. When a white person kills a black person, do they hesitate to call it racist or a hate crime? When anyone kills a gay person, do they hesitate to call it a hate crime? Why is this not immediately condemmed as at least a hate crime and more likely terrorism? Why are they falling all over themselves to excuse this with ridiculous psycho babble?
gina4 on November 7, 2009 at 8:24 PM
It does. Flesh, spirit and trust. For a time this weekend I thought I was on Hot Whitewash. But I may have just been jumping to conclusions.
BL@KBIRD on November 7, 2009 at 8:24 PM
I do a lot of bike-riding and whenever I pass a mosque, I spit at it.
venividivici on November 7, 2009 at 8:25 PM
I agree. However, my point is this president is taking away the very safety factors Bush erected to keep us safe, and willingly converting back to a police action rather than the extremist war going on over 30 years now.
dthorny on November 7, 2009 at 8:25 PM
American Power tracked-back with, ‘http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/nidal-malik-hasan-fort-hood-shooter.html'.
Donald Douglas on November 7, 2009 at 8:26 PM
venividivici on November 7, 2009 at 8:25 PM
OK, that’s a little silly.
gina4 on November 7, 2009 at 8:26 PM
Put out an APB on Captain Hook. And bring Peter Pan in for questioning. We must not jump to conclusions. Anything is possible.
Loxodonta on November 7, 2009 at 8:28 PM
Who is the mystery man?
I’m sure he’s a radical. Hope they are searching hard.
PattyJ on November 7, 2009 at 8:28 PM
They’re all the same. They have to be. Their book tells them to be.
SouthernGent on November 7, 2009 at 8:31 PM
But I thought we had some sort of efficient machine in the military… with the likes of Powell running it, I don’t see why not…
MeatHeadinCA on November 7, 2009 at 8:31 PM
What’s with that stupid friendly picture of him?
Schadenfreude on November 7, 2009 at 8:33 PM
No, it’s not! Good on you. I do the same thing when I pass an IRA partisan Irish bar… terrorist hugging tw@ts.
/spit
Terp Mole on November 7, 2009 at 8:35 PM
Is that like a typical WHITE person, one who loves their country and doesn’t like the government taking it over and didn’t vote for OBAMA…you know, racist?
So, I can gather that typical fundamentalist Muslims like to murder our military by opening fire on them when they are unarmed and using passenger jets to plow into buildings…..sounds like the typical fundamentalist Muslim is a big, fat P*SSY to me.
HornetSting on November 7, 2009 at 8:35 PM
Afraid of women too, I heard…
MeatHeadinCA on November 7, 2009 at 8:36 PM
More calm, everyone.
/s
Kalapana on November 7, 2009 at 8:37 PM
Notice how Obama is doing his utmost to react differently to terroris, yes Ft. Hood massacre, compared to GWB, so that the world ‘loves’ him, and us?
Schadenfreude on November 7, 2009 at 8:37 PM
Sadly, it sounds like that Muslim engineer did more to stop Hasan then the PC bureaucracy of the army.
aikidoka on November 7, 2009 at 8:38 PM
Obama is doing his utmost to react differently to terror*sm than GWB did to 9/11/01, so that the world ‘loves’ him, and us.
Schadenfreude on November 7, 2009 at 8:39 PM
Agreed, can’t we replace it with this.
fogw on November 7, 2009 at 8:40 PM
Or this…
MeatHeadinCA on November 7, 2009 at 8:42 PM
He’s not afraid of them. He just doesn’t love them, doesn’t want to be in pictures with them, and considers them less than camels, sheep or dogs.
Indeed, fogw.
Schadenfreude on November 7, 2009 at 8:42 PM
My meaty friend, are you saying that the 72 virgins that await the jihadist in paradise are actually NOT women?
LOL*
HornetSting on November 7, 2009 at 8:43 PM
I am Navy retiree after 20 years of service. During that time, I saw political correctness take hold and get so strong, that in the 1980′s, it reached a point where every sailor was REQUIRED to have a statement on their evaluation that said “Petty Officer Jones supports the Navy Affirmative Action Program.” In 1987, I refused to sign it because all I saw from the affirmative action program was underqualified people getting promoted over highly qualified people of the caucasian persuasion. The extent to which women and minorities got preference in promotions and assignments to officer programs had no end to it. If they wanted to advance ten black women to a job and there were ten who were the worst sailors in the fleet, they were still getting the promotions. I argued this was nothing but flat out racisim, and I was right. I took a big hit on my evaluations for standing up for what I believed. If I had realized how much this situation was going to affect my career, I would have bailed out right away. But by the time I could see it, I had too many years in to quit. Nowadays, I tell young white men to stay away from the services unless they want to spend their whole career trying to overcome a hugh hit because of the color of their skin.
Bikerken on November 7, 2009 at 8:43 PM
Schadenfreude on November 7, 2009 at 8:46 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised if Hasan was addicted to internet Gay p0rn and that’s the reason he was so “frustrated.”
Good American guy though… /cousin o’terrorist
MeatHeadinCA on November 7, 2009 at 8:46 PM
FIFY ;)
MeatHeadinCA on November 7, 2009 at 8:47 PM
They’re not all the same, just as we aren’t.
The trick is to separate the few immanent threats from the many likely threats from the large number of potential threats. The amount of evidence available that Hasan was a likely threat, then an immanent threat, is astounding.
Every law, policy, supervisor, fellow employee, and political cultural practice must be identified, changed or removed that allowed this man to go without intense investigation and then surveillance.
This tragedy could have and should have been prevented, rather than requiring Sergeant Kimberly Munley to stop it.
Loxodonta on November 7, 2009 at 8:48 PM
Yes I am! I have the sweater puppies to prove it. Careful, my meaty friend. You are walking on very thin ice. I’m going to have to put your girlfriend into a woodchipper if you don’t behave. LOL*
HornetSting on November 7, 2009 at 8:50 PM
You may have the proof, but I’m not sure if my “girl”friend does…
I’m kinda POed at her… Going to that Frat Party of her son’s the other night… I don’t want a Kegger Queen
MeatHeadinCA on November 7, 2009 at 8:52 PM
Hows this?
http://www.moonbattery.com/Gay_Army.jpg
macncheez on November 7, 2009 at 8:52 PM
I’m really intolerant of bigotry. But if I hear someone making threats, I report it. I don’t care what the color, sex, religion, or anything is of the person. All that matters is the threat.
Loxodonta on November 7, 2009 at 8:54 PM
He clearly had PTSD. Why do you hate Muslims and Islam?
Enoxo on November 7, 2009 at 8:55 PM
This will be what the Congressional Fact Digging Mission will look like…
http://21.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ksjwhvyhjx1qzzhzdo1_500.jpg
MeatHeadinCA on November 7, 2009 at 8:55 PM
Was that a Rhetorical question?
HornetSting on November 7, 2009 at 8:56 PM
Even more troubling is that our own FBI does not think this is a terrorist event. Does anyone else think that the FBI needs a complete top to bottom overhaul?
Does anyone else think we need our congress and President to reenforce that the people who are at war with us are radical jihadists, and that we need to re-commit the U.S. government to rooting them out of all of our institutions?
paulsur on November 7, 2009 at 8:58 PM
Exactly. He is not coming back to wreck the psy op that is part of the ongoing attack.
Kenosha Kid on November 7, 2009 at 8:59 PM
But what will Gleen Greenwald/Rick Ellensburg think about all of this, AP?
;-)
Good Lt on November 7, 2009 at 8:59 PM
I don’t know what’s going on with you two, but if you’re looking for a good woman, Mr. Hornet, I suggest Dark Current. And she’ll go for you to, Miss MeatHead. She doesn’t discriminate.
Loxodonta on November 7, 2009 at 9:00 PM
PTSD = Post traumatic stress disorder. What “taumatic incident” did Major Hasan experience to get ptsd from?
paulsur on November 7, 2009 at 9:00 PM
If this scum is paralyzed from the neck down, he should be burned with cigarettes on every available space from the neck up. Then they can cut his tongue out in sections, pull his teeth out one by one, and do those cuts Dexter does all over his head.
Then the real torture can begin!
lonestar1 on November 7, 2009 at 9:01 PM
The only traumatic stress that Major Hasan was under, was that his religion was ordering to kill infidels.
paulsur on November 7, 2009 at 9:01 PM
I heard Dark Current likes strange things such…
MeatHeadinCA on November 7, 2009 at 9:01 PM
It’s called sarcasm people!
Enoxo on November 7, 2009 at 9:01 PM
Not much different in civilian life. Here’s a condensed version of what happened to a dear friend of mine, coincidentally in the early 80s.
Young entrepeneur starts financial investment firm.
Becomes very successful, business takes off.
Number of employees mushroom, more support staff needed.
Hires African-American woman as front desk receptionist.
Woman is bad egg, loafer, late all the time, takes long lunches.
Woman is warned to shape up, or face termination.
Woman continues same pattern, subsequently fired.
Woman files racial discrimination suit.
Owner fights and wins, but costs him $80K in legal fees.
Owner swears he will never hire another African American.
And never did.
fogw on November 7, 2009 at 9:01 PM
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